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 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 22:17
 Subject: Re: Clips Ahoy, part three.
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

With all due respect, it's none of your business.

Well, I don't know how much respect someone like me is due

But you're right, it is none of my business.
 Author: legoman77 View Messages Posted By legoman77
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 21:54
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

With all due respect, it's none of your business.

Ouch! They are two good guys. That is the nicest you can be?

John P
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 21:47
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

With all due respect, it's none of your business.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 21:36
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

That is a very good and important question.
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 20:21
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 19:46
 Subject: Re: Wheel plate stuck on car chassis piece
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David

The pin that holds them on clips through and then can't be reversed - see
pic

That's the same as what I have, except in different colors. Do you know
if they come already assembled in the box? (The one I have is from a used lot.)

randyf, the part is definitely made up of 3 separate parts (1 of the main chassis,
and 2 of the modified 2X2 plates.) Each of the 3 parts has a molded part number
that you can see on the underside.

David

This set review has both the red and LBG holders:

https://youtu.be/cIeqTh0x82g
 
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 19:28
 Subject: Re: Wheel plate stuck on car chassis piece
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In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David

The pin that holds them on clips through and then can't be reversed - see
pic

That's the same as what I have, except in different colors. Do you know
if they come already assembled in the box? (The one I have is from a used lot.)

randyf, the part is definitely made up of 3 separate parts (1 of the main chassis,
and 2 of the modified 2X2 plates.) Each of the 3 parts has a molded part number
that you can see on the underside.

David
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 19:25
 Subject: Clips Ahoy, part three.
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http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 18:47
 Subject: Re: Wheel plate stuck on car chassis piece
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David

The pin that holds them on clips through and then can't be reversed - see
pic
 
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 17:11
 Subject: Re: Wheel plate stuck on car chassis piece
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 16:58
 Subject: Re: Wheel plate stuck on car chassis piece
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 16:19
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Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David
 Author: Bobflip View Messages Posted By Bobflip
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 10:48
 Subject: Re: Missing stickered counterparts in set 75877
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Finally got round to submitting the first three!

In Catalog, Bobflip writes:
  In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  In Catalog, Bobflip writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, Bobflip writes:
  There's 24 stickered parts in this set, but only 3 are in the inventory.

Only two are in the inventory.


These things happen...

  
First you'll need to add the stickered parts here:

https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp

Then you'll need to add images here:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page

Once the parts are approved (meaning added to the catalog) you will then be able
to submit an inventory change request for the set to add the stickered parts
as counterparts.

But I still don't know what to use as the item no and item name. Even after
reading the instructions the numbering conventions go over my head

Stickered parts are (usually) just the part number plus "pb" plus a unique numerical
suffix.

If you go to the "Market" tab, then select "Catalog", it should drop you at a
search page. Search the part number which has the sticker and add a wildcard
character (*) to the end. When the results are returned you'll need to refine
them further: sort on "Item Number" and order "Down". This will return the newest/highest
suffix currently in use.

For your new part just submit an ID with next highest number. If that number
is rejected it means there is currently a part with that number pending approval
but not yet in the catalog. If that happens just go up another number until
the submission is accepted.

The attached image should hopefully makes things clearer--it is not an easy
process to understand at first. Ask back if you have any problems.

Thanks, I'll refer back to this when I get the photos taken.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 10:45
 Subject: Re: How to add to the catalog? WM soccer team
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In Catalog, Bendix writes:
  add to the catalog as a
set or single?

Please take a look through the existing postcard section and follow the examples
shown:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?catType=G&catString=472
 Author: Bendix View Messages Posted By Bendix
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 06:47
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I just came across of a set of 6 Legoland Sierksdorf postcards: 5 are showing
the German WM soccer team of 1974 on a visit a Legoland Sierksdorf (black and
white). The sixth one shows the entrance of Legoland Sierksdorf and on the back
there are autographs of the soccer team.

I only came twice across this set in a lot of years - add to the catalog as a
set or single?

Thanks for any advice
Beryll
 












 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 06:45
 Subject: Re: Difference 4170pb01 between set 7740 and 7745
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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  I think the sticker of part 4170pb01 for set 7745 is a little bit bigger, than
the sticker for set 7740. See image (below=7745; up=7740)

I confirm.

P.S. primadeluxe, your previous post concerning the shell stickers were posted
here three times.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1186278

The private message you just sent me was indeed received twice in my mailbox.
So, if you are going to reply my message, this is the instructions to flatten
the spread of your messages:

1) press the"Post" bottom
then immediately
2) turn off your laptop

 Author: primadeluxe View Messages Posted By primadeluxe
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 06:32
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I think the sticker of part 4170pb01 for set 7745 is a little bit bigger, than
the sticker for set 7740. See image (below=7745; up=7740)
 
 Author: Legoboy_II View Messages Posted By Legoboy_II
 Posted: Mar 19, 2020 22:11
 Subject: Re: Clips Ahoy, Part 2! Attention StormChaser
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OMG!

That's some fantastic work to illustrate the issue, and explains a lot...

Thanks for the educational overview.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Mar 19, 2020 12:56
 Subject: Re: Add paper flyers to set inventories
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In Catalog Requests, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Quite a few of today's sets not only contain instructions (= booklets or
single sheets of paper) but also other paper items. These are included to promote
the product line or to provide information about what you can do with the set.
Currently there's no way to add these to a set inventory which means that
--as a seller-- you cannot sell a set as 'complete' until these
items are part of the catalogue inventory.

No, no, no... Sets are considered complete without catalogs or flyers or any
of that type of content. In fact you can list a set as complete with no box and
no instructions, as long as you mention it in the listing notes.

  Example:
 
Set No: 41906  Name: Pencil Holder
* 
41906-1 (Inv) Pencil Holder
351 Parts, 2020
Sets: Dots
contains an instruction sheet https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?I=41906-1#T=S&O={%22ss%22:%22NL%22,%22rpp%22:%2250%22,%22iconly%22:0}
and a leaflet/flyer --whatever you want to call it-- with building ideas
and a product overview.

For the above set I added this paper sheet to the catalogue under number 6317480.
I can't add a link to this item in the form of p=xxxx or whatever because
it's not supported in the macro tags. See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1147

Yes, it is:
[c=m20dots]
  Also: this item is nowhere linked to the sets in which it appears.

StormChaser approved it with the item number 'm20dots' and description
'2020 Mini Dots (6317480)'. BTW: I don't think this is very helpful.

I was the one who approved this and changed the title to conform with BrickLink
standard. This is a mini catalog, and this is how they are listed. There are
over 400 mini catalogs now in the catalog:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?q=mini&catType=C&catID=

  I think we need a way to add those paper leaflets to the inventory of a set.
There are two ways to do this:
1. make items like this a part of the inventory or
2. extend the current set description [set entry | instructions entry | box
entry]
with '| other included items' or whatever you want
to call it.

We've tinkered with the idea of adding catalogs to sets in the past, but
there is too much variability to standardize this for all catalogs.

However, we have also considered inventorying which sets appear in which catalogs.
This would give sets (and by extension, parts) a full chronological spectrum
instead of simply the starting year.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Mar 19, 2020 12:49
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In Catalog Requests, Leftoverbricks writes:
  StormChaser approved it with the item number 'm20dots' and description
'2020 Mini Dots (6317480)'.

Did I? Are you certain of that? Because oddly enough, I don't remember
doing it.
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Quite a few of today's sets not only contain instructions (= booklets or
single sheets of paper) but also other paper items. These are included to promote
the product line or to provide information about what you can do with the set.
Currently there's no way to add these to a set inventory which means that
--as a seller-- you cannot sell a set as 'complete' until these
items are part of the catalogue inventory.

Example:
 
Set No: 41906  Name: Pencil Holder
* 
41906-1 (Inv) Pencil Holder
351 Parts, 2020
Sets: Dots
contains an instruction sheet https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?I=41906-1#T=S&O={%22ss%22:%22NL%22,%22rpp%22:%2250%22,%22iconly%22:0}
and a leaflet/flyer --whatever you want to call it-- with building ideas
and a product overview.

For the above set I added this paper sheet to the catalogue under number 6317480.
I can't add a link to this item in the form of p=xxxx or whatever because
it's not supported in the macro tags. See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1147
Also: this item is nowhere linked to the sets in which it appears.

StormChaser approved it with the item number 'm20dots' and description
'2020 Mini Dots (6317480)'. BTW: I don't think this is very helpful.

I think we need a way to add those paper leaflets to the inventory of a set.
There are two ways to do this:
1. make items like this a part of the inventory or
2. extend the current set description [set entry | instructions entry | box
entry]
with '| other included items' or whatever you want
to call it.
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Mar 18, 2020 20:46
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http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-k-v.php

Some takeaway observations so far.

Catalog is inconsistent in how it treats variants.
- Sometimes there is one ID number for two different designs.
-- Sometimes these design differences are noted, other times not
- Sometimes there is one ID number plus a letter (1234a, 1234b, etc.) indicating
different designs
- Sometimes there is one ID number plus "alternate numbers" for a single design
-- Sometimes these alternate ID numbers are the same design
-- Sometimes these alternate ID numbers are a different design

I would suggest that 48729 and 48729b are functionally different designs.
I would suggest that 48729b is actually 41005, and 41005 is a later variant of
48729b.

21 unique clip shapes to this point.

Some clip shape differences are obvious and others are subtle. Many probably
can't be distinguished by most people, even upon close examination. Through
the process of photographing these elements, and bringing the actual 6mm size
up to somewhere around 180mm these differences become more apparent.

So the differences are now cataloged and you can deal with them or not as you
see fit.

There's probably another page or two to come, but this is pretty slow going.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Mar 18, 2020 15:06
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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog Requests, tpr writes:
  I have this item with solid studs, so should be under 4215a

I haven't looked into it quite closely, but I believe this issue affects
numerous parts all across the catalog. See item number 1 in the first section
on this page:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940

See Project 22 on the Catalog Roadmap. You can generalize that to include this.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Mar 18, 2020 13:16
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In Catalog Requests, tpr writes:
  I have this item with solid studs, so should be under 4215a

I haven't looked into it quite closely, but I believe this issue affects
numerous parts all across the catalog. See item number 1 in the first section
on this page:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Mar 18, 2020 11:27
 Subject: Re: Panel needs checking please
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In Catalog Requests, tpr writes:
  Hi

 
Part No: 4215pb003  Name: Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Blue, Red and Silver Space Mechanical Pattern on Inside (Sticker) - Set 6949 (Undetermined Type)
* 
4215pb003 Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Blue, Red and Silver Space Mechanical Pattern on Inside (Sticker) - Set 6949 (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Panel, Decorated
Marked for Deletion

I have this item with solid studs, so should be under 4215a

It is currently under 4215 which is undetermined.

Can anyone check the third picture - comes up too small for me, to see the studs

If they are solid, which I think they are, this wants re-assigning to a 4215a
number

Thanks

tpr

I suspect it's as the inventory for this set has those panels (before stickers
applied) as having come in both versions but I will look into it further
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
 Posted: Mar 18, 2020 11:26
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I think I have one or two of those, if I can find them I'll check mine.




In Catalog Requests, tpr writes:
  Hi

 
Part No: 4215pb003  Name: Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Blue, Red and Silver Space Mechanical Pattern on Inside (Sticker) - Set 6949 (Undetermined Type)
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4215pb003 Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Blue, Red and Silver Space Mechanical Pattern on Inside (Sticker) - Set 6949 (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Panel, Decorated
Marked for Deletion

I have this item with solid studs, so should be under 4215a

It is currently under 4215 which is undetermined.

Can anyone check the third picture - comes up too small for me, to see the studs

If they are solid, which I think they are, this wants re-assigning to a 4215a
number

Thanks

tpr
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Hi

 
Part No: 4215pb003  Name: Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Blue, Red and Silver Space Mechanical Pattern on Inside (Sticker) - Set 6949 (Undetermined Type)
* 
4215pb003 Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Blue, Red and Silver Space Mechanical Pattern on Inside (Sticker) - Set 6949 (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Panel, Decorated
Marked for Deletion

I have this item with solid studs, so should be under 4215a

It is currently under 4215 which is undetermined.

Can anyone check the third picture - comes up too small for me, to see the studs

If they are solid, which I think they are, this wants re-assigning to a 4215a
number

Thanks

tpr
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  […]
However, if LDraw
still uses some "x" numbers, it would be wise to retain them.

LDraw doesn’t use “x” numbers. They use “u” numbers, and they get rid of them
as soon as the correct ID is known.

So, rid away with the “x”!


As for aliases, they make alias files (their descriptions start with a “=”).
So that takes care of that.
Now, their patterns numbers are not compatible with BL’s. So this would be a
bigger problem, except, now, the BL ID is often put as keywords (inside the file
but searchable in some CADs or simply with a grep).
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In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  Right. These "x" numbers are changed all the time when the actual number becomes
known. I'm surprised it wasn't done here.

Are they? That's definitely news to me.

Here's a list of X-numbers beginning with 1. There are nearly 400 of them,
and that's just one number:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?searchMethod=searchBoth&q=x1*&itemBrand=1000&catType=&itemYear=&catID=&catLike=W

"x" exists as a temporary number when the official Lego part number was originally
not known (usually because it is not printed on the part itself).

The "x" numbers come from the old peeron/LDraw days when numbers were not known.

  When I've discovered the true part number, I've submitted many for the
"x" number to be replaced by the official Lego part number, and it's always
been done. (The "x" number was not even retained as an alternate.) In fact, one
time I went through the catelog to discover and replace as many as I could find
the original part number for.

Nope, this is not always the case. Some admins would change them and others would
not. The ones who would not change them stated that the reason was to maintain
consitency with peeron/LDraw. Since peeron has been defunct for quite a while,
I see no need to continue to maintain consistency with them. However, if LDraw
still uses some "x" numbers, it would be wise to retain them.

  For some reason here though... When the original part number was discovered,
it was added as an alternate number, but not replaced. So, there's obviously
serious inconsistency here.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  Right. These "x" numbers are changed all the time when the actual number becomes
known. I'm surprised it wasn't done here.

Are they? That's definitely news to me.

Here's a list of X-numbers beginning with 1. There are nearly 400 of them,
and that's just one number:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?searchMethod=searchBoth&q=x1*&itemBrand=1000&catType=&itemYear=&catID=&catLike=W

"x" exists as a temporary number when the official Lego part number was originally
not known (usually because it is not printed on the part itself).

When I've discovered the true part number, I've submitted many for the
"x" number to be replaced by the official Lego part number, and it's always
been done. (The "x" number was not even retained as an alternate.) In fact, one
time I went through the catelog to discover and replace as many as I could find
the original part number for.

For some reason here though... When the original part number was discovered,
it was added as an alternate number, but not replaced. So, there's obviously
serious inconsistency here.
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Seriously, what genius thought the best avatar brick in the catalog should be
white when the background is white too. So many hard to figure out bricks. Please
change all white avatar bricks to something more visible.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Can I add those to the catalog?

You may submit any genuine LEGO item to the catalog.

  And where: book / gear / catalog

At this point in time most paper objects should be added as the Books item type.
If the flyers have the characteristics of a catalog, then that's where they'd
go. Otherwise books.
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TLG is distributing general product flyers in sets within the same theme. For
example DOTS and Ninjago Arcade Pods. The flyers are all the same, so not specific
to a particular set.
Can I add those to the catalog? And where: book / gear / catalog / somewhere
else?
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In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  Right. These "x" numbers are changed all the time when the actual number becomes
known. I'm surprised it wasn't done here.

Are they? That's definitely news to me.

Here's a list of X-numbers beginning with 1. There are nearly 400 of them,
and that's just one number:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?searchMethod=searchBoth&q=x1*&itemBrand=1000&catType=&itemYear=&catID=&catLike=W
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, edeevo writes:
  […]
I'm guessing it also has to do with all the dependencies within the site
that would be affected if the numbers were simply changed... […]

Nah, items have a fixed, internal ID in the database, that ID doesn’t change.
The part ID is just another description, shorter and unique.

Think about when they add a digit to the numbered minifigs (bla001 becoming bla0001).

Right. These "x" numbers are changed all the time when the actual number becomes
known. I'm surprised it wasn't done here.
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http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-a-j.php

more to come eventually
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Is there any printing on the reverse side of this 2012 series of posters? Acquired
some, but they have B/W smaller versions on the reverse.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, edeevo writes:
  I'm confident we're in good hands with StormChaser at the helm…

I appreciate the vote of confidence, but I am not at the helm of anything.

I am the merely the newest of three catalog associates and we all work together
as a team with the two inventory administrators.

My role on the team is to spend most of my time posting in the discussion forum
while others do the actual work.

...an important calling nonetheless...

Life is Good.
~Ed.
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In Catalog, edeevo writes:
  I'm confident we're in good hands with StormChaser at the helm…

I appreciate the vote of confidence, but I am not at the helm of anything.

I am the merely the newest of three catalog associates and we all work together
as a team with the two inventory administrators.

My role on the team is to spend most of my time posting in the discussion forum
while others do the actual work.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Catalog, edeevo writes:
  […]
I'm guessing it also has to do with all the dependencies within the site
that would be affected if the numbers were simply changed... […]

Nah, items have a fixed, internal ID in the database, that ID doesn’t change.
The part ID is just another description, shorter and unique.

Think about when they add a digit to the numbered minifigs (bla001 becoming bla0001).
 Author: edeevo View Messages Posted By edeevo
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In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, jonwil writes:
  
 
Part No: x168  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
* 
x168 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
is labeled as "underwater" when it has never
appeared in any underwater type sets?

Should it be renamed?

It has been renamed.

Is there a reason that the "x" number is still the primary number when the actual
part number is now known?

I'm guessing it also has to do with all the dependencies within the site
that would be affected if the numbers were simply changed... & it's probably
a bit of a chore to verify and test such dependencies *before* making the change
each time, though I'm confident we're in good hands with StormChaser
at the helm…


Life is Good.
~Ed.
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In Catalog, TheBrickGuys writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, jonwil writes:
  
 
Part No: x168  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
* 
x168 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
is labeled as "underwater" when it has never
appeared in any underwater type sets?

Should it be renamed?

It has been renamed.

6 minutes - You are FAST.

Or should I say, 6 MINUTES? What the L took so long??

Jim.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, jonwil writes:
  
 
Part No: x168  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
* 
x168 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
is labeled as "underwater" when it has never
appeared in any underwater type sets?

Should it be renamed?

It has been renamed.

6 minutes - You are FAST.
 Author: starbeanie View Messages Posted By starbeanie
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I agree. Having the set number in neither the part number or description will
make it harder to find.

In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Here's my plan to handle the restructuring, which is a combination of ideas
from everyone:

For Existing Duplicate Catalog Entries:

1. Stickers that appear in multiple sets will have a new catalog entry
created. Then all existing duplicate entries will be merged into the new entry.

2. Item numbers for the new catalog entries will be formatted like this:
multistk001, multistk002, multistk003, etc.

3. Item titles for new entries will be formatted as follows. When the
sticker appears in three or fewer sets, then "Sticker Sheet for Multiple Sets
- 1001, 1002, 1003." When the sheet appears in more than three sets (there are
only 19 of these): "Sticker Sheet for Multiple Sets, Town, Fish and Coral."

Is there a reason why we can't have all the set numbers in the titles besides
the title length limitation? Since there are so few of these, I honestly don't
see why we would create two new naming conventions for these sheets that differ
from the convention used for all other sticker sheets. Also, since you are changing
the item numbers for these multi-set sticker sheets, it is probably more important
than ever to have the set numbers in the titles for search purposes. Using a
title like "Sticker Sheet for Multiple Sets, Town, Fish and Coral" does nothing
to help find this sticker sheet.

My suggestion is for one naming convention:

"Sticker Sheet for Set ..." for one-set sticker sheets and "Sticker Sheet for
Sets ..." for multi-set sticker sheets.

  4. N/A and International sticker sheet entries will be merged when there
are no apparent differences beyond the standard N/A / International differences.

5. Where significant differences exist between sticker sheets, such as
color differences in the stickers themselves, the duplicate entries will be retained.

For All Sticker Sheet Entries:

1. PCCs for all sticker sheets will be moved from the item title to the
PCC field. Item numbers will be retained in their current place in the titles.

2. Item titles for all sticker sheets will be changed from the format
"Sticker for Set" to "Sticker Sheet for Set."

If anyone has suggestions for this plan or sees where it may encounter problems,
please say something. Otherwise, we'll move into the action phase during
the upcoming week.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Here's my plan to handle the restructuring, which is a combination of ideas
from everyone:

For Existing Duplicate Catalog Entries:

1. Stickers that appear in multiple sets will have a new catalog entry
created. Then all existing duplicate entries will be merged into the new entry.

2. Item numbers for the new catalog entries will be formatted like this:
multistk001, multistk002, multistk003, etc.

3. Item titles for new entries will be formatted as follows. When the
sticker appears in three or fewer sets, then "Sticker Sheet for Multiple Sets
- 1001, 1002, 1003." When the sheet appears in more than three sets (there are
only 19 of these): "Sticker Sheet for Multiple Sets, Town, Fish and Coral."

Is there a reason why we can't have all the set numbers in the titles besides
the title length limitation? Since there are so few of these, I honestly don't
see why we would create two new naming conventions for these sheets that differ
from the convention used for all other sticker sheets. Also, since you are changing
the item numbers for these multi-set sticker sheets, it is probably more important
than ever to have the set numbers in the titles for search purposes. Using a
title like "Sticker Sheet for Multiple Sets, Town, Fish and Coral" does nothing
to help find this sticker sheet.

My suggestion is for one naming convention:

"Sticker Sheet for Set ..." for one-set sticker sheets and "Sticker Sheet for
Sets ..." for multi-set sticker sheets.

  4. N/A and International sticker sheet entries will be merged when there
are no apparent differences beyond the standard N/A / International differences.

5. Where significant differences exist between sticker sheets, such as
color differences in the stickers themselves, the duplicate entries will be retained.

For All Sticker Sheet Entries:

1. PCCs for all sticker sheets will be moved from the item title to the
PCC field. Item numbers will be retained in their current place in the titles.

2. Item titles for all sticker sheets will be changed from the format
"Sticker for Set" to "Sticker Sheet for Set."

If anyone has suggestions for this plan or sees where it may encounter problems,
please say something. Otherwise, we'll move into the action phase during
the upcoming week.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  For All Sticker Sheet Entries:

1. PCCs for all sticker sheets will be moved from the item title to the
PCC field. Item numbers will be retained in their current place in the titles.

2. Item titles for all sticker sheets will be changed from the format
"Sticker for Set" to "Sticker Sheet for Set."

We can get started on this now. I can add the word "Sheet" to titles administratively,
but there is no easy way to accomplish moving PCCs administratively. Assistance
with catalog change requests would be appreciated.

Please see the attached images. The first image shows how to move the PCC when
there is only one number in the title. If anyone disagrees with treating this
number as a PCC, then say something.

I do! (hand in air)

I am not sure what this number is on these sheets. It could be an Element ID,
but maybe it isn't. I would rather us just move numbers to PCCs that we know
for sure are Element IDs. These would be the sticker sheets with a clear "Design
ID/Element ID" format on the sheets.
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In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  Is there a reason that the "x" number is still the primary number when the actual
part number is now known?

Yes, there is a reason.

The reason is that BrickLink is leery of changing item numbers. There are hundreds
of item numbers that need to be changed and someday I may make a list of them.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, jonwil writes:
  
 
Part No: x168  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
* 
x168 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
is labeled as "underwater" when it has never
appeared in any underwater type sets?

Should it be renamed?

It has been renamed.

Is there a reason that the "x" number is still the primary number when the actual
part number is now known?
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  please ask for clarification

Forgot to clarify: we're only changing parts that appear in a single set.
If the sticker sheet appears in more than one set, then ignore it for now.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  For All Sticker Sheet Entries:

1. PCCs for all sticker sheets will be moved from the item title to the
PCC field. Item numbers will be retained in their current place in the titles.

2. Item titles for all sticker sheets will be changed from the format
"Sticker for Set" to "Sticker Sheet for Set."

We can get started on this now. I can add the word "Sheet" to titles administratively,
but there is no easy way to accomplish moving PCCs administratively. Assistance
with catalog change requests would be appreciated.

Please see the attached images. The first image shows how to move the PCC when
there is only one number in the title. If anyone disagrees with treating this
number as a PCC, then say something. The second image shows how to move the
PCC when there are two numbers in the title separated by a slash. The lengthier
number should be the PCC (ask if unsure in a specific instance).

For sticker sheets from roughly 1997-2014 PCCs were already moved, but they were
(most unfortunately) left in the titles. They still need to be removed from
titles. If the PCC has already been moved, you'll get the message shown
in the third image. In those cases, just remove the PCC from the title.

If you're not sure how this should be done properly, please ask for clarification
before proceeding to assist with these changes. The parts shown in the images
are linked for reference:

 
Part No: 1469stk01  Name: Sticker Sheet for Set 1469 - (199602)
* 
1469stk01 Sticker Sheet for Set 1469 - (199602)
Parts: Sticker Sheet
 
Part No: 1376stk01  Name: Sticker Sheet for Set 1376 - (43655/4173445)
* 
1376stk01 Sticker Sheet for Set 1376 - (43655/4173445)
Parts: Sticker Sheet
 




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