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 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 22:17
 Subject: Re: Clips Ahoy, part three.
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

With all due respect, it's none of your business.

Well, I don't know how much respect someone like me is due

But you're right, it is none of my business.
 Author: legoman77 View Messages Posted By legoman77
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 21:54
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

With all due respect, it's none of your business.

Ouch! They are two good guys. That is the nicest you can be?

John P
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 21:47
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

With all due respect, it's none of your business.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 21:36
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

That is a very good and important question.
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 20:21
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 19:46
 Subject: Re: Wheel plate stuck on car chassis piece
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David

The pin that holds them on clips through and then can't be reversed - see
pic

That's the same as what I have, except in different colors. Do you know
if they come already assembled in the box? (The one I have is from a used lot.)

randyf, the part is definitely made up of 3 separate parts (1 of the main chassis,
and 2 of the modified 2X2 plates.) Each of the 3 parts has a molded part number
that you can see on the underside.

David

This set review has both the red and LBG holders:

https://youtu.be/cIeqTh0x82g
 
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 19:28
 Subject: Re: Wheel plate stuck on car chassis piece
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In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David

The pin that holds them on clips through and then can't be reversed - see
pic

That's the same as what I have, except in different colors. Do you know
if they come already assembled in the box? (The one I have is from a used lot.)

randyf, the part is definitely made up of 3 separate parts (1 of the main chassis,
and 2 of the modified 2X2 plates.) Each of the 3 parts has a molded part number
that you can see on the underside.

David
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 19:25
 Subject: Clips Ahoy, part three.
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http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 18:47
 Subject: Re: Wheel plate stuck on car chassis piece
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David

The pin that holds them on clips through and then can't be reversed - see
pic
 
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 17:11
 Subject: Re: Wheel plate stuck on car chassis piece
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 16:58
 Subject: Re: Wheel plate stuck on car chassis piece
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 16:19
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Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David
 Author: Bobflip View Messages Posted By Bobflip
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 10:48
 Subject: Re: Missing stickered counterparts in set 75877
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Finally got round to submitting the first three!

In Catalog, Bobflip writes:
  In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  In Catalog, Bobflip writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, Bobflip writes:
  There's 24 stickered parts in this set, but only 3 are in the inventory.

Only two are in the inventory.


These things happen...

  
First you'll need to add the stickered parts here:

https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp

Then you'll need to add images here:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page

Once the parts are approved (meaning added to the catalog) you will then be able
to submit an inventory change request for the set to add the stickered parts
as counterparts.

But I still don't know what to use as the item no and item name. Even after
reading the instructions the numbering conventions go over my head

Stickered parts are (usually) just the part number plus "pb" plus a unique numerical
suffix.

If you go to the "Market" tab, then select "Catalog", it should drop you at a
search page. Search the part number which has the sticker and add a wildcard
character (*) to the end. When the results are returned you'll need to refine
them further: sort on "Item Number" and order "Down". This will return the newest/highest
suffix currently in use.

For your new part just submit an ID with next highest number. If that number
is rejected it means there is currently a part with that number pending approval
but not yet in the catalog. If that happens just go up another number until
the submission is accepted.

The attached image should hopefully makes things clearer--it is not an easy
process to understand at first. Ask back if you have any problems.

Thanks, I'll refer back to this when I get the photos taken.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 10:45
 Subject: Re: How to add to the catalog? WM soccer team
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In Catalog, Bendix writes:
  add to the catalog as a
set or single?

Please take a look through the existing postcard section and follow the examples
shown:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?catType=G&catString=472
 Author: Bendix View Messages Posted By Bendix
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 06:47
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I just came across of a set of 6 Legoland Sierksdorf postcards: 5 are showing
the German WM soccer team of 1974 on a visit a Legoland Sierksdorf (black and
white). The sixth one shows the entrance of Legoland Sierksdorf and on the back
there are autographs of the soccer team.

I only came twice across this set in a lot of years - add to the catalog as a
set or single?

Thanks for any advice
Beryll
 












 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 06:45
 Subject: Re: Difference 4170pb01 between set 7740 and 7745
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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  I think the sticker of part 4170pb01 for set 7745 is a little bit bigger, than
the sticker for set 7740. See image (below=7745; up=7740)

I confirm.

P.S. primadeluxe, your previous post concerning the shell stickers were posted
here three times.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1186278

The private message you just sent me was indeed received twice in my mailbox.
So, if you are going to reply my message, this is the instructions to flatten
the spread of your messages:

1) press the"Post" bottom
then immediately
2) turn off your laptop

 Author: primadeluxe View Messages Posted By primadeluxe
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 06:32
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I think the sticker of part 4170pb01 for set 7745 is a little bit bigger, than
the sticker for set 7740. See image (below=7745; up=7740)
 
 Author: Legoboy_II View Messages Posted By Legoboy_II
 Posted: Mar 19, 2020 22:11
 Subject: Re: Clips Ahoy, Part 2! Attention StormChaser
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OMG!

That's some fantastic work to illustrate the issue, and explains a lot...

Thanks for the educational overview.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Mar 19, 2020 12:56
 Subject: Re: Add paper flyers to set inventories
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In Catalog Requests, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Quite a few of today's sets not only contain instructions (= booklets or
single sheets of paper) but also other paper items. These are included to promote
the product line or to provide information about what you can do with the set.
Currently there's no way to add these to a set inventory which means that
--as a seller-- you cannot sell a set as 'complete' until these
items are part of the catalogue inventory.

No, no, no... Sets are considered complete without catalogs or flyers or any
of that type of content. In fact you can list a set as complete with no box and
no instructions, as long as you mention it in the listing notes.

  Example:
 
Set No: 41906  Name: Pencil Holder
* 
41906-1 (Inv) Pencil Holder
351 Parts, 2020
Sets: Dots
contains an instruction sheet https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?I=41906-1#T=S&O={%22ss%22:%22NL%22,%22rpp%22:%2250%22,%22iconly%22:0}
and a leaflet/flyer --whatever you want to call it-- with building ideas
and a product overview.

For the above set I added this paper sheet to the catalogue under number 6317480.
I can't add a link to this item in the form of p=xxxx or whatever because
it's not supported in the macro tags. See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1147

Yes, it is:
[c=m20dots]
  Also: this item is nowhere linked to the sets in which it appears.

StormChaser approved it with the item number 'm20dots' and description
'2020 Mini Dots (6317480)'. BTW: I don't think this is very helpful.

I was the one who approved this and changed the title to conform with BrickLink
standard. This is a mini catalog, and this is how they are listed. There are
over 400 mini catalogs now in the catalog:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?q=mini&catType=C&catID=

  I think we need a way to add those paper leaflets to the inventory of a set.
There are two ways to do this:
1. make items like this a part of the inventory or
2. extend the current set description [set entry | instructions entry | box
entry]
with '| other included items' or whatever you want
to call it.

We've tinkered with the idea of adding catalogs to sets in the past, but
there is too much variability to standardize this for all catalogs.

However, we have also considered inventorying which sets appear in which catalogs.
This would give sets (and by extension, parts) a full chronological spectrum
instead of simply the starting year.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Catalog Requests, Leftoverbricks writes:
  StormChaser approved it with the item number 'm20dots' and description
'2020 Mini Dots (6317480)'.

Did I? Are you certain of that? Because oddly enough, I don't remember
doing it.
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Quite a few of today's sets not only contain instructions (= booklets or
single sheets of paper) but also other paper items. These are included to promote
the product line or to provide information about what you can do with the set.
Currently there's no way to add these to a set inventory which means that
--as a seller-- you cannot sell a set as 'complete' until these
items are part of the catalogue inventory.

Example:
 
Set No: 41906  Name: Pencil Holder
* 
41906-1 (Inv) Pencil Holder
351 Parts, 2020
Sets: Dots
contains an instruction sheet https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?I=41906-1#T=S&O={%22ss%22:%22NL%22,%22rpp%22:%2250%22,%22iconly%22:0}
and a leaflet/flyer --whatever you want to call it-- with building ideas
and a product overview.

For the above set I added this paper sheet to the catalogue under number 6317480.
I can't add a link to this item in the form of p=xxxx or whatever because
it's not supported in the macro tags. See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1147
Also: this item is nowhere linked to the sets in which it appears.

StormChaser approved it with the item number 'm20dots' and description
'2020 Mini Dots (6317480)'. BTW: I don't think this is very helpful.

I think we need a way to add those paper leaflets to the inventory of a set.
There are two ways to do this:
1. make items like this a part of the inventory or
2. extend the current set description [set entry | instructions entry | box
entry]
with '| other included items' or whatever you want
to call it.
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Mar 18, 2020 20:46
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http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-k-v.php

Some takeaway observations so far.

Catalog is inconsistent in how it treats variants.
- Sometimes there is one ID number for two different designs.
-- Sometimes these design differences are noted, other times not
- Sometimes there is one ID number plus a letter (1234a, 1234b, etc.) indicating
different designs
- Sometimes there is one ID number plus "alternate numbers" for a single design
-- Sometimes these alternate ID numbers are the same design
-- Sometimes these alternate ID numbers are a different design

I would suggest that 48729 and 48729b are functionally different designs.
I would suggest that 48729b is actually 41005, and 41005 is a later variant of
48729b.

21 unique clip shapes to this point.

Some clip shape differences are obvious and others are subtle. Many probably
can't be distinguished by most people, even upon close examination. Through
the process of photographing these elements, and bringing the actual 6mm size
up to somewhere around 180mm these differences become more apparent.

So the differences are now cataloged and you can deal with them or not as you
see fit.

There's probably another page or two to come, but this is pretty slow going.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Mar 18, 2020 15:06
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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog Requests, tpr writes:
  I have this item with solid studs, so should be under 4215a

I haven't looked into it quite closely, but I believe this issue affects
numerous parts all across the catalog. See item number 1 in the first section
on this page:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940

See Project 22 on the Catalog Roadmap. You can generalize that to include this.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Catalog Requests, tpr writes:
  I have this item with solid studs, so should be under 4215a

I haven't looked into it quite closely, but I believe this issue affects
numerous parts all across the catalog. See item number 1 in the first section
on this page:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Mar 18, 2020 11:27
 Subject: Re: Panel needs checking please
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In Catalog Requests, tpr writes:
  Hi

 
Part No: 4215pb003  Name: Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Blue, Red and Silver Space Mechanical Pattern on Inside (Sticker) - Set 6949 (Undetermined Type)
* 
4215pb003 Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Blue, Red and Silver Space Mechanical Pattern on Inside (Sticker) - Set 6949 (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Panel, Decorated
Marked for Deletion

I have this item with solid studs, so should be under 4215a

It is currently under 4215 which is undetermined.

Can anyone check the third picture - comes up too small for me, to see the studs

If they are solid, which I think they are, this wants re-assigning to a 4215a
number

Thanks

tpr

I suspect it's as the inventory for this set has those panels (before stickers
applied) as having come in both versions but I will look into it further

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