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 Author: BrickCompulsion View Messages Posted By BrickCompulsion
 Posted: Feb 9, 2020 04:58
 Subject: Re: Description standardization note
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I totally support this change
Consistency is key
Maybe search and change all you can find and then put it out there on here for
messages about items missed. That’s if the sql person is on holiday or unavailable
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Feb 9, 2020 04:49
 Subject: Re: Description Standardization Note
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  It would be good for consistency in the catalog description if all instances
of numbers were either integers or words, not arbitrarily some of each.

I have noticed this before and definitely agree it needs to be worked on. The
problem is (and I'm starting to understand the rearranging the chairs thing)
there are too many problems.

In the case of this problem, you can't even find the problem because you
can't search for it. So it would involve examining every single catalog
entry. All 100K+ of them.

And perhaps, when the next problem comes along, examining all of them again.
It almost makes a person think that there must be a better way . .

The answer is really quite simple - talk to a SQL person and they will advise
you how to organise your query to find precisely what you want. It isn't
rocket science. .
 Author: FreeStorm View Messages Posted By FreeStorm
 Posted: Feb 9, 2020 03:59
 Subject: Re: Description Standardization Note
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In the case of this problem, you can't even find the problem because you
can't search for it. So it would involve examining every single catalog
entry. All 100K+ of them.

What do you want to find?

Something like this?
"* three *" = 153 results
"* 3 *" = 6675 results
"* three *" AND "* 3 *" = 16 results

As example, last search find:
"Technic, Panel Car Spoiler 3 x 8 with Three Holes and Black and Yellow Danger
Stripes and Mud Pattern (Stickers) - Set 7968"

"Primo Brick 1 x 1 with Three Flowers and Number 3 on Opposite Side Pattern"

Of course,I made query to find only for "three" and "3" on same description,
but with a regexp it should be simple to spot every "word digit" with "digit"
on same description like "blah with two legs and 1 arm"

Some other incoherence (digit 3 should be between '' when you have pattern
after):
"*number 3 *pattern*" = 22 result
"*number '3' *pattern*" = 3 result

If you know what you want to find, it should be easy to make a search query,
to spot the majority of incoherence.

-Fred
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Feb 9, 2020 03:29
 Subject: Re: Description Standardization Note
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  It would be good for consistency in the catalog description if all instances
of numbers were either integers or words, not arbitrarily some of each.

I have noticed this before and definitely agree it needs to be worked on. The
problem is (and I'm starting to understand the rearranging the chairs thing)
there are too many problems.

In the case of this problem, you can't even find the problem because you
can't search for it. So it would involve examining every single catalog
entry. All 100K+ of them.

And perhaps, when the next problem comes along, examining all of them again.
It almost makes a person think that there must be a better way . . .
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Feb 9, 2020 03:00
 Subject: Re: Description standardization note
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  It would be good for consistency in the catalog description if all instances
of numbers were either integers or words, not arbitrarily some of each.

So:

Three eyeballs, Three earlobes

or

3 eyeballs, 3 earlobes

not

Three eyeballs, 3 earlobes

...that kind of thing.

There are pros and cons for each option. Please investigate how the search mechanism
works to see which option yields better results.

Unfortunately, single digits are thrown out of many of the search results. But
I think in general one would find more numerals in item names than the words
spelled out simply because it makes the name shorter.

Please drop the keyword exclusion altogether.

It does not make sense to make use of a full text English language keyword exclusion
list, when the contents of the database is actually not normal full text English,
but a specific dialect: Bricklink English (EN-BL) in which it makes more sense
to search for keywords like 'with' and 'without' and for single
digits. It should be easy to adjust the database configuration. No programming
involved.

Hans-Peter

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