Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | mfav  | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 22:49 | | Subject: | Re: Description standardization note | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Unfortunately, single digits are thrown out of many of the search results.
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Aren't you the fella to talk to to get that changed, Mister Site Manager?
| | But I think in general one would find more numerals in item names than the words
spelled out simply because it makes the name shorter.
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While that is undoubtedly true, it's not particularly helpful in any way.
If you search, say, legs assemblies...
search for "three" you get two results
search for "3" you get: The following keywords were excluded from your search:
3
...however there are 13 entries containing "3"
Isn't the point of StormBluser's standardization plan to fix this stuff?
To paraphrase the StormBluser: why name something like this when 75% of the search
words are invalid?
Again, I'll make the point you need to distinguish between identification
and discovery. The identification of a thing is irrelevant if it can't be
discovered. People use the search box to find things, they don't browse 180,000
individual items looking for "3". Hope you get my drift.
Aren't you the number one proponent of making the catalog useful? Let's
figure out a way to make it useful.
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| Author: | Leftoverbricks | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 22:24 | | Subject: | Re: Sticker # When adding Items | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, OmnipresentECA writes:
| | I have come across a few tiles with stickers that are not in the catalog.
, nor in their set inventory.
How do I go about determining the Sticker # when Adding to the catalog.
For example one is a 87079pb###, how do I determine the last few digits?
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Search for 87079pb*
You will get 725 results. The next ‘free’ number should be 726.
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 21:24 | | Subject: | Re: Description standardization note | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, mfav writes:
| | It would be good for consistency in the catalog description if all instances
of numbers were either integers or words, not arbitrarily some of each.
So:
Three eyeballs, Three earlobes
or
3 eyeballs, 3 earlobes
not
Three eyeballs, 3 earlobes
...that kind of thing.
There are pros and cons for each option. Please investigate how the search mechanism
works to see which option yields better results.
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Unfortunately, single digits are thrown out of many of the search results. But
I think in general one would find more numerals in item names than the words
spelled out simply because it makes the name shorter.
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| Author: | mfav | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 21:08 | | Subject: | Description standardization note | | Viewed: | 168 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| It would be good for consistency in the catalog description if all instances
of numbers were either integers or words, not arbitrarily some of each.
So:
Three eyeballs, Three earlobes
or
3 eyeballs, 3 earlobes
not
Three eyeballs, 3 earlobes
...that kind of thing.
There are pros and cons for each option. Please investigate how the search mechanism
works to see which option yields better results.
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| Author: | OmnipresentECA | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 15:30 | | Subject: | Sticker # When adding Items | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| I have come across a few tiles with stickers that are not in the catalog.
, nor in their set inventory.
How do I go about determining the Sticker # when Adding to the catalog.
For example one is a 87079pb###, how do I determine the last few digits?
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| Author: | dcarmine | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 14:53 | | Subject: | Re: February Roadmap Project: Old and New | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, dcarmine writes:
| | According to the new standard for "difference types" the difference has to be
related to the way a part functions, not just cosmetic differences. So with
that rule, there would be only one entry for this hat.
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I think there you are talking about run change things. Minor adjustments to
a mold to use less plastic or something that don't change its function at
all don't make "a difference". But a change of design on a hat makes it
a new hat.
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Ok good to know.
Donna
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 14:39 | | Subject: | Re: Questions about Unikitty / Counterparts | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, mjwest83 writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | But for all other sets, we've decided one entry is enough. To allow more
entries like this would create a precedent with huge implications. So your pending
entries will be rejected in a few days.
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In regards to the two Unikitties in set , if you only want to list
one of them, fine. But which one? The decision is totally arbitrary. The box
itself is effectively two separate presentations. It doesn't have a front
and back, so much as two fronts. If you look at the instructions, they do NOT
have numbers. Instead it has two equal, independent instruction books. Really,
this set is two completely independent sets that happen to use the same parts.
As such, choosing just one of those Unikitties is a completely arbitrary decision,
and it can be argued that either one should be the primary.
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The box, instructions, and LEGO set description are definitive about the situation,
although it may not look that way at first.
(1) LEGO lists the first instruction manual as the one used to build the house.
(2) The set is named "Emmet's Dream House/Rescue Rocket!", so it is clear
which model is considered the main model and which is considered the alternate
model.
(3) The set description from LEGO.com says "This 2-in-1 construction toy features
Emmet’s home which can be rebuilt into a rocket."
All of the key information is there to determine that the main model is the house
and the alternate model is the rescue rocket. Based on that determination, the
instruction manual for the house takes precedence.
| | This is NOT a case where there is an obvious primary build of the minifigure,
with a side picture showing an alternative build. (Like a character that has
both a helmet and hair, where one is the primary build, and the other is an alternative
for play purposes.) No, this is outright two separate minifigures that just happen
to use common parts. This is a very different case than just about any other
situation.
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It cannot be two separate minifigures, because there is only one tail for Unikitty
in the set, as well as only one set of ears, one horn, and one headband plate.
Therefore, we have to make a decision about what minifigure gets added to the
set for now. That minifigure was determined based on the above data that I listed.
In the future, when the "Minifigs:" section of an inventory will hopefully just
be an "Assemblies:" section which includes other assembled counterparts, two
different assemblies of parts can be added. However, we are nowhere close to
that.
The admins can discuss this situation some more, but I don't believe we will
come to a different decision at this time.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | mjwest83 | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 11:31 | | Subject: | Re: Questions about Unikitty / Counterparts | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | But for all other sets, we've decided one entry is enough. To allow more
entries like this would create a precedent with huge implications. So your pending
entries will be rejected in a few days.
|
In regards to the two Unikitties in set , if you only want to list
one of them, fine. But which one? The decision is totally arbitrary. The box
itself is effectively two separate presentations. It doesn't have a front
and back, so much as two fronts. If you look at the instructions, they do NOT
have numbers. Instead it has two equal, independent instruction books. Really,
this set is two completely independent sets that happen to use the same parts.
As such, choosing just one of those Unikitties is a completely arbitrary decision,
and it can be argued that either one should be the primary.
This is NOT a case where there is an obvious primary build of the minifigure,
with a side picture showing an alternative build. (Like a character that has
both a helmet and hair, where one is the primary build, and the other is an alternative
for play purposes.) No, this is outright two separate minifigures that just happen
to use common parts. This is a very different case than just about any other
situation.
Also, if they can't be listed as counter-parts, how are they supposed to
be sold. It is flat out the case that this minifigure will be sold as a minifigure,
whether it has a specific listing or not. There are only two ways to do so: one
is as a custom figure (which is pointless) and the other is as an incomplete
set (which is what will be done). When listed as an incomplete set, this pollutes
the averages on which so much stuff is based. When it is such a small part of
the set, that can have a very over-sized impact on those averages. By allowing
the counterpart figure, you avoid those issues.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2020 02:39 | | Subject: | Re: February Roadmap Project: Old and New | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | I suggest adding names and titles that have "Type 1", "Type 2", etc. in them
to the project. Those terms are useless.
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I completely agree.
But I also know from experience that bundling too many things in together is
not conducive to finishing things. So I may make this a separate project. One
way or the other, it is needed.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Feb 7, 2020 21:26 | | Subject: | Re: February Roadmap Project: Old and New | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, dcarmine writes:
| | According to the new standard for "difference types" the difference has to be
related to the way a part functions, not just cosmetic differences. So with
that rule, there would be only one entry for this hat.
|
I think there you are talking about run change things. Minor adjustments to
a mold to use less plastic or something that don't change its function at
all don't make "a difference". But a change of design on a hat makes it
a new hat.
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