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 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 14:07
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In General, BLUSER13161 writes:

  Forgot to mention: I would like to be identified only by a completely random
number in future comic strips and not by a cleverly brick-built LEGO tornado.


Ok. After tomorrow.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 14:02
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In General, mfav writes:
  Now go ahead and point out where I'm wrong, and I'll make another comic
strip

Forgot to mention: I would like to be identified only by a completely random
number in future comic strips and not by a cleverly brick-built LEGO tornado.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 13:57
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In General, mfav writes:
  You know, sometimes you seem to misinterpret the stuff I put in the comics as
a personal point of view. That is not the case.

Perhaps. And I shouldn't. I apologize.

  If you want my personal point of view, it is that it is the individual in question
who should decide whether or not their feces is public. Not you. Not I.

I agree. But I will qualify that by saying that once you make some contribution
to the world, you may have to trade a little privacy for that. And BrickLink
has made no secret of the fact that contributions are credited to users. Everyone
should know the deal going in when they choose to contribute.

There is such a thing as later changing your mind and asking to be removed from
public/private records, but I don't believe that these contributors did so.

  Bricklink in this instance is presumably attempting to meet compliance with these
new privacy laws.

Maybe. This is the general consensus. I think it was more of a case of a poorly-researched
law and an over-reaction.

  The law is the law and the affected bodies must be in compliance or in violation.

Yes, but companies and individuals have the ability to challenge unjust laws.
Some have.

  Now go ahead and point out where I'm wrong, and I'll make another comic
strip

It is good to have a plan and it seems like we have one.
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 13:30
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In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
  mfav makes the point that these contributors didn't contribute much and it
was a long time ago. He's saying that it therefore doesn't matter how
we treat them.

You know, sometimes you seem to misinterpret the stuff I put in the comics as
a personal point of view. That is not the case. The comics stuff is made to be
funny...well hopefully funny...not to be anything else.

If you want my personal point of view, it is that it is the individual in question
who should decide whether or not their sh*t is public. Not you. Not I.

Bricklink in this instance is presumably attempting to meet compliance with these
new privacy laws. I'm not debating the efficacy of the laws, or the aesthetics,
or morality or anything else, because it's irrelevant. The law is the law
and the affected bodies must be in compliance or in violation.

Given that there are a number of users X whom, presumably Bricklink cannot contact
to affirm their willingness to allow their sh*t to be displayed on the site,
BL likely doesn't have a choice but to anonymize them. Well, they have the
choice to be in violation of the law, but I assume that isn't the choice
that has been made.

Melville and Shakespeare are long dead. You can't cyberpunk them and steal
their identities. The cases with the anonymized users are likely unknown.

I don't necessarily disagree with your general sentiments. But your sentiments
are not the law. BL doesn't have to disagree with your sentiments either,
but not being in compliance with the law is a whole different deal.

Apples and oranges.

Now go ahead and point out where I'm wrong, and I'll make another comic
strip, and tomorrow will be another day.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 13:27
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In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
  So: there is a somewhat recent trend in society of erasing people from history.
A number of different reasons are used to justify this. In this instance, privacy
appears to have been the reason.

Correction: perhaps the trend is not so recent. There was another time and place
in history when people were reduced to numbers by those in power.

Should I bring that up? No.

Is it in any way comparable to what BrickLink has done? No, there is no comparison.

I only mention it to illustrate the thought process that goes into disrespecting
people enough to reduce them to anonymous numbers.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 13:04
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In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
   A username is not (and correct me if I'm wrong) PII.

Correction: it is PII of an extremely limited sort, but not the kind intended
to be protected by law so far as I'm aware.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 12:57
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In General, Legolibrarian2 writes:
  This may be in response to a new law that took effect in California this month.
It has to do with personal information in an online environment. BL headquarters
is in California, so I guess they have to abide by the law.

No, from what I can tell by reading a summary of that law it would not be applicable
in this situation.

The following is not directed to you, but to several readers who really don't
seem to get it. I understand getting it and disagreeing, but some people really
aren't getting it.

So: there is a somewhat recent trend in society of erasing people from history.
A number of different reasons are used to justify this. In this instance, privacy
appears to have been the reason. Obviously I disagree with that trend.

BrickLink assigns each person a unique identifying number upon sign-up. This
is necessary for their database of members. Now it has reduced certain users
to that number, even though the vast majority (probably all) of them did not
request it.

I will present a couple of situations that may be somewhat analogous depending
on perspective.

Imagine a graveyard where the company that owns the graveyard has assigned each
gravesite a number. One day the company goes through and erases the name from
every headstone (or most of them) and replaces those names with the numbers they
have assigned to the plots. The reasons why they did so are irrelevant - it
should be obvious that this is not a wise decision on the part of the company.

Here's another: imagine that someone comes up with a numbering system for
authors and assigns every author throughout history a unique identifying number.
Then, one day, they have the power and ability to replace each author's
name with a number in all records kept by humans. So they do it.

And then we have Hamlet by Author_291763. Moby Dick by Author_9182772. 1984
by Author_3177634. I could continue, of course.

mfav makes the point that these contributors didn't contribute much and it
was a long time ago. He's saying that it therefore doesn't matter how
we treat them. Using the analogy above, then, if an author hasn't contributed
much to the collective human store of literature, then it's okay to erase
them. But Shakespeare, much as he desired anonymity, won't get it because
he contributed too much.

Of course, the logical response is that catalog contributions are not works of
art. That is fair, but they are still effort someone put forth with the understanding
and promise that they would receive perpetual credit for the volunteer work they
did. BrickLink has broken that promise and there is no way to justify that.
A username is not (and correct me if I'm wrong) PII.

It amazes me that I'm putting so much effort into explaining the effects
of erasing history. I think I may know the reason: nearly everyone alive today
grew up in cultures where everything is disposable. It is a logical extension
to see humans in the same way. I'm arguing against that way of looking at
the past. I'm arguing for treating people with the respect they deserve
and keeping promises. I'm arguing against erasure.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 12:07
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 75022-1
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In Inventories Requests, teraith writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 75022  Name: Mandalorian Speeder
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75022-1 (Inv) Mandalorian Speeder
195 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2013
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars The Clone Wars

* Add 2 Part 64802 Dark Bluish Gray Minifigure, Jet Pack with Nozzles

Comments from Submitter:
The deathwatch command have them as per the instructions.

Those items are already included in the inventory of the set. They exist in
the sub-inventories of these figures:

 
Minifig No: sw0495  Name: Mandalorian Super Commando (Head with High Brow Pattern)
* 
sw0495 (Inv) Mandalorian Super Commando (Head with High Brow Pattern)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars The Clone Wars
 
Minifig No: sw0494  Name: Mandalorian Super Commando
* 
sw0494 (Inv) Mandalorian Super Commando
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars The Clone Wars

If you click on the Break Minifigs link at the top of the inventory page
the jet packs will be shown in the complete inventory.

The packs, by the way, are pearl dark gray, not dark bluish gray.
 Author: MocFodder View Messages Posted By MocFodder
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 10:54
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 75022-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 75022  Name: Mandalorian Speeder
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75022-1 (Inv) Mandalorian Speeder
195 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2013
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars The Clone Wars

* Add 2 Part 64802 Dark Bluish Gray Minifigure, Jet Pack with Nozzles

Comments from Submitter:
The deathwatch command have them as per the instructions.
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 10:19
 Subject: Re: Question about flags (parts 4495a and 4495b)
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In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
  In Inventories, BLUSER13161 writes:
  In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
  I am replacing a few parts on set 7038-1 Troll Assault Wagon and noticed the
two flags included are listed as different variants....the dark blue is lefted
as "wave left" and the pearl gold as "wave right"

My set has the opposite style flags, and the instructions clearly show both flags
as the "wave left" variant.

If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the inventory page:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=7038-1

you will see the following sentence:

View a log of completed changes made to this inventory.

Clicking there will display the history of changes made to this set's inventory.

  Is this a mistake in the inventory, or did the set
really come with both flags pointing in different directions?

According to BrickLink's timeline the flag change happened roughly around
2008, which is the year this set was released. So it's quite possible that
some 7038-1 sets came with left flags, some came with right flags, and some came
with both.

I see, I see. Thank you for the information. Since the flag change happened that
year, would it be correct to submit a change request for the flags and list the
"wave left" variant as the regular part since it appears that way in the instructions
and part list, and the "wave right" variant as an alternate item, do you think?

The inventory should indeed include the "a" type as regular part and the "b"
type as alternate part for both colors. I have submitted the change requests:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=262880&nID=1176544
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 10:19
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In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7038  Name: Troll Assault Wagon
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7038-1 (Inv) Troll Assault Wagon
137 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2008
Sets: Castle: Fantasy Era

* Add 1 Part 4495a Dark Blue Flag 4 x 1 Wave Left (match ID 3)
* Add 1 Part 4495b Pearl Gold Flag 4 x 1 Wave Right (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 1 Part Dark Blue 4495b Flag 4 x 1 Wave Right {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 3}
* Change 1 Part Pearl Gold 4495a Flag 4 x 1 Wave Left {match ID 0 to 4}

Comments from Submitter:
Unboxing and building at http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=304273 and at http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=315253
 


 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 10:18
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7038  Name: Troll Assault Wagon
* 
7038-1 (Inv) Troll Assault Wagon
137 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2008
Sets: Castle: Fantasy Era

* Add 1 Part 4495a Dark Blue Flag 4 x 1 Wave Left (match ID 3)
* Add 1 Part 4495b Pearl Gold Flag 4 x 1 Wave Right (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 1 Part Dark Blue 4495b Flag 4 x 1 Wave Right {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 3}
* Change 1 Part Pearl Gold 4495a Flag 4 x 1 Wave Left {match ID 0 to 4}

Comments from Submitter:
Unboxing and building at http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=304273 and at http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=315253
 Author: saosivert View Messages Posted By saosivert
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 05:05
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 70602  Name: Jay's Elemental Dragon
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70602-1 (Inv) Jay's Elemental Dragon
340 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2016
Sets: NINJAGO: Skybound

* Change 2 Part {Trans-Light Blue to Trans-Dark Blue} 57906pb014 Hinge Plate 3 x 12 with Angled Side Extensions and Tapered Ends with Lightning Pattern Type 1 (Sticker) - Set 70602 (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
Part is Trans-Dark Blue instead of Trans-Light Blue
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 03:31
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 70731  Name: Jay Walker One
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70731-1 (Inv) Jay Walker One
359 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2015
Sets: NINJAGO: Possession

* Add 1 Minifig njo184s Jay (Deepstone Armor) - Possession, Lightning Pack with Yellow Danger Stripes and Gold Lightning Reactor Pattern (Sticker) (Counterpart)
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 00:26
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In Catalog, Mrco writes:
  In Catalog Requests, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Mrco writes:
  Please delete duplicate
 
Part No: 65072pb02  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Ninjago Wrap Type 6 with Molded White Mask and Printed Medium Azure Ninjago Logogram Letter L on Black Background Pattern
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65072pb02 Minifigure, Headgear Ninjago Wrap Type 6 with Molded White Mask and Printed Medium Azure Ninjago Logogram Letter L on Black Background Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

This is the same
 
Part No: 65072pb01  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Ninjago Wrap Type 6 with Molded White Mask and Printed Medium Azure Ninjago Logogram Letter J on Black Background Pattern
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65072pb01 Minifigure, Headgear Ninjago Wrap Type 6 with Molded White Mask and Printed Medium Azure Ninjago Logogram Letter J on Black Background Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

The symbols are different.

Wow, did not noticed that. Maybe someone could tell do they mean something..

I have the impression that Ninjago symbols are made up intended to look like
an Asian language, but if I am wrong I would like to know.
 Author: Mrco View Messages Posted By Mrco
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 22:35
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In Catalog, cycbuild writes:
  I salute your profile pic!

 Author: Legolibrarian2 View Messages Posted By Legolibrarian2
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 21:56
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In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
  I can't help myself from returning to this topic.

It is not right to erase people who have contributed to the catalog and turn
them into a meaningless number (and a username that rhymes with "loser.").

The first attached image shows people who have contributed a set inventory to
the catalog. For each person it was only one inventory, but it was time they
took out of their day or week to make a contribution.

The second image shows people who have added items to the catalog. One person
added 113 items. Another added 97 items. Yet another added 87 items. And so
on down the list.

Some of these unregistered users are no doubt dead. Some have moved on to new
pursuits. Some may be in a coma or in prison. Who knows why any one person
hasn't logged on or may never log on again?

BrickLink wants contributions. BrickLink wants an involved community. But when
BrickLink treats former contributors so dismissively, by erasing them into meaninglessness,
it makes me think they have no respect for contributors.

BrickLink contributors deserve better treatment than this. Anonymizing people
who have contributed to the catalog was a poor decision. It was a careless and
heartless decision.

I urge the site to reconsider the decision to anonymize any former catalog and
inventory contributors.

This may be in response to a new law that took effect in California this month.
It has to do with personal information in an online environment. BL headquarters
is in California, so I guess they have to abide by the law.
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 18:10
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I agree with everything you said. I didn't even know that was happening.
Was it something they started recently?

David
 Author: cycbuild View Messages Posted By cycbuild
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 15:51
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I salute your profile pic!
 
 Author: Mrco View Messages Posted By Mrco
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 15:36
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In Catalog Requests, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Mrco writes:
  Please delete duplicate
 
Part No: 65072pb02  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Ninjago Wrap Type 6 with Molded White Mask and Printed Medium Azure Ninjago Logogram Letter L on Black Background Pattern
* 
65072pb02 Minifigure, Headgear Ninjago Wrap Type 6 with Molded White Mask and Printed Medium Azure Ninjago Logogram Letter L on Black Background Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

This is the same
 
Part No: 65072pb01  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Ninjago Wrap Type 6 with Molded White Mask and Printed Medium Azure Ninjago Logogram Letter J on Black Background Pattern
* 
65072pb01 Minifigure, Headgear Ninjago Wrap Type 6 with Molded White Mask and Printed Medium Azure Ninjago Logogram Letter J on Black Background Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

The symbols are different.

Wow, did not noticed that. Maybe someone could tell do they mean something..
 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 14:24
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In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
  I can't help myself from returning to this topic.

It is not right to erase people who have contributed to the catalog and turn
them into a meaningless number (and a username that rhymes with "loser.").

snip

  
BrickLink wants contributions. BrickLink wants an involved community. But when
BrickLink treats former contributors so dismissively, by erasing them into meaninglessness,
it makes me think they have no respect for contributors.

BrickLink contributors deserve better treatment than this. Anonymizing people
who have contributed to the catalog was a poor decision. It was a careless and
heartless decision.

I urge the site to reconsider the decision to anonymize any former catalog and
inventory contributors.

This is what happens when regulators (read government flunkies) pull their snouts
from the trough of public money long enough to do something. It becomes an unmitigated
RFU. The privacy and scrubbing laws exist for a reason, what some might view
as a good reason, but a reason none the less. It is easier to place the burden
on a few companies than to make all individuals behave like responsible citizens.

But I will say for this process - at the same time as scrubbing members, existing
members who have contributed should be contacted and requested to agree that,
as part of the process of contributing to the catalogue, such contributions are
acknowledged. Furthermore, members contributing, must sign a waiver allowing
BL Corp to keep using the contribution and BL's acknowledgement thereof,
for as long as the site persists. When a member closes his/her account, they
must be reminded of the waiver again and agree again as part of the process of
closing an account. Members who choose not to outlive the site, must make sure
that their wills make provision for the contributions to be acknowledged as long
as the site persists. BL must just learn to manage properly, is all. Members
must just learn to be responsible, is all.

The heartbreaking thing is that sans BL managing this, all catalogue contributions
will eventually be made by BLUSERs. So why bother at all? Just acknowledge all
contributions as by BLUSERs already or, alternatively, manage the process of
contributing and membership a bit better. You cannot do anything about the lot
who never thought to give BL their permission to outlive their usefulness, but
you can deal with the existing membership in a better manner.
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 14:19
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Maybe familiarizing yourself with this information will clear up many of your
questions about Blusers and cookie screens having priority over things like being
kind and being useful and usable.

Because. Compliance. Governments know what's best for all of us.

https://gdpr.eu
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 13:52
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In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
  […]
I get privacy laws and removing information attached to profiles, but taking
the username is what I have a problem with. I don't see any reason whatsoever
why it was necessary to go that far.

A username is personnal information that helps identify someone.

An example of what privacy laws entail:
When you go to the “I lost my password” page on a website, you enter a username
or an email address (another username, associated to an email provider).
The website should NOT answer:
  “Sorry, this username/email-address is unknown.”
nor
  “Okay, we know you, a message has been sent.”
The website should answer something like:
  “If we know about that email address, a message has been sent.”
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 13:41
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In General, MidwestBrick writes:
  In the long-run, why does it matter?

You make a fine argument. And if we were all to agree with it, then this page
should be removed from BrickLink altogether (which you clearly support):

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogMembers.asp

But to answer your question, I'll give you one way in which it actually does
matter. Catalog and inventory administrators sometimes have to make judgments
about the reliability of information that members submit. Contributors build
a reputation based on the quality of work they've done in the past.

Looking back on past work done to know how reliable it should be considered,
it actually does mean something to be able to identify a user and not just see
that one the blusers did it.

  This literally sounds like an employee of mine that needs to know for every task they do that we all know they did it. After awhile, it doesn't hold any merit and I really don't care. The task was completed and we can move on.

Yeah, but if you truly believed that, then you would refer to all your employees
by a number. You would say things like, "Employee Number 3827, go assist Employees
Number 99234 and 439 with the task they're working on."

But you don't. Because people have names and you treat them like people,
not cogs in your machine.

At least I hope you do.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 13:37
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, bje writes:
  […]
+1^google*1^google
Enough said

Er, Jean, I’ve noticed you already used “+1^google*1^google” or something similar
a couple of times.
You do know 1^(whatever) is always 1, don’t you?

Not if it is 1^8 because then it is an emoticon wearing glasses doing a headstand.
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 13:30
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In General, MidwestBrick writes:
  In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
  I can't help myself from returning to this topic.

It is not right to erase people who have contributed to the catalog and turn
them into a meaningless number (and a username that rhymes with "loser.").

The first attached image shows people who have contributed a set inventory to
the catalog. For each person it was only one inventory, but it was time they
took out of their day or week to make a contribution.

The second image shows people who have added items to the catalog. One person
added 113 items. Another added 97 items. Yet another added 87 items. And so
on down the list.

Some of these unregistered users are no doubt dead. Some have moved on to new
pursuits. Some may be in a coma or in prison. Who knows why any one person
hasn't logged on or may never log on again?

BrickLink wants contributions. BrickLink wants an involved community. But when
BrickLink treats former contributors so dismissively, by erasing them into meaninglessness,
it makes me think they have no respect for contributors.

BrickLink contributors deserve better treatment than this. Anonymizing people
who have contributed to the catalog was a poor decision. It was a careless and
heartless decision.

I urge the site to reconsider the decision to anonymize any former catalog and
inventory contributors.

In the long-run, why does it matter? I can't recall if I have added anything
to the catalog but really don't care if my name is stamped on something or
not. The purpose is to get the information into the database so it can be utilized.
We all know that someone had to do it and we are all thankful of those contributors,
whether they did 1 submission, or 100,000 submissions.

Maybe it is my older age, but I don't need the "satisfaction" that others
know it was me that did something. My satisfaction comes from others enjoying
something that was done, regardless of whom did it.

This literally sounds like an employee of mine that needs to know for every task
they do that we all know they did it. After awhile, it doesn't hold any
merit and I really don't care. The task was completed and we can move on.

My suggestion, let it go and let those in charge, focus on things that need to
be done and let the trivial stuff whoosh right over our heads and leave us un-phased.
Not everything is going to be perfect and arguing over little things makes the
big things harder to accomplish.

I think most people would agree with you - the trouble is the big things are
taking much longer than anyone really anticipated to get to grips with so people
wile away their time with minor things. Maybe, just maybe if we concentrated
on the big things to let the new owners know our feelings we could help move
this along - maybe not - large corporates rarely listen in depth to what we have
to say (at least in the past, anyway).
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 13:28
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In General, Andrsv writes:
  It is probably related to privacy laws. If someone deletes their account it is
for a reason, and many want their info removed. This is a guess based on related
issues on other places.

This was done wholesale for a large number of users at the same time and thus
was likely NOT based on privacy laws. The likelihood that hundreds of thousands
of users simultaneously requested that their information be removed is remarkably
low.

The Help Center states:

If you have done any of the following, then that information and your user
profile cannot be deleted but all other information attached to your user profile
will be deleted
:

•Placed or received at least 1 order
•Changed your username or a profile was merged into your username
•Added at least 1 item to the catalog
•Added at least 1 image small or large to the catalog
•Added at least 1 inventory of an item to the catalog
•Added at least 1 relationship to the catalog
•Added at least 1 link to the links section
•Added at least 1 inventory change request to the catalog
•Added weight, dimensions or color code for at least 1 item in the catalog
•Are an inventories verifier and verified at least 1 inventory
•Sent any messages to other members through the contact form
•Posted a message in our discussion forum and it is still there
•Moved a discussion forum post and the message is still there
•Are currently or have been before banned from Chat


I assume BrickLink decided that sentence in bold meant that the username was
part of the information that should be removed.

I get privacy laws and removing information attached to profiles, but taking
the username is what I have a problem with. I don't see any reason whatsoever
why it was necessary to go that far.
 Author: MidwestBrick View Messages Posted By MidwestBrick
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In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
  I can't help myself from returning to this topic.

It is not right to erase people who have contributed to the catalog and turn
them into a meaningless number (and a username that rhymes with "loser.").

The first attached image shows people who have contributed a set inventory to
the catalog. For each person it was only one inventory, but it was time they
took out of their day or week to make a contribution.

The second image shows people who have added items to the catalog. One person
added 113 items. Another added 97 items. Yet another added 87 items. And so
on down the list.

Some of these unregistered users are no doubt dead. Some have moved on to new
pursuits. Some may be in a coma or in prison. Who knows why any one person
hasn't logged on or may never log on again?

BrickLink wants contributions. BrickLink wants an involved community. But when
BrickLink treats former contributors so dismissively, by erasing them into meaninglessness,
it makes me think they have no respect for contributors.

BrickLink contributors deserve better treatment than this. Anonymizing people
who have contributed to the catalog was a poor decision. It was a careless and
heartless decision.

I urge the site to reconsider the decision to anonymize any former catalog and
inventory contributors.

In the long-run, why does it matter? I can't recall if I have added anything
to the catalog but really don't care if my name is stamped on something or
not. The purpose is to get the information into the database so it can be utilized.
We all know that someone had to do it and we are all thankful of those contributors,
whether they did 1 submission, or 100,000 submissions.

Maybe it is my older age, but I don't need the "satisfaction" that others
know it was me that did something. My satisfaction comes from others enjoying
something that was done, regardless of whom did it.

This literally sounds like an employee of mine that needs to know for every task
they do that we all know they did it. After awhile, it doesn't hold any
merit and I really don't care. The task was completed and we can move on.

My suggestion, let it go and let those in charge, focus on things that need to
be done and let the trivial stuff whoosh right over our heads and leave us un-phased.
Not everything is going to be perfect and arguing over little things makes the
big things harder to accomplish.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 13:20
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In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
  would it be correct to submit a change request for the flags . . . since it appears that way in the instructions

No, part variant change requests should be based on actual sets contents and
not set instructions. Ideally, of course.

Set instructions don't always match set contents and inventories are intended
to represent actual set contents. A change request would need to be made based
on what was found in a brand new set.
 Author: WilliamRaine View Messages Posted By WilliamRaine
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 13:16
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In Inventories, BLUSER13161 writes:
  In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
  I am replacing a few parts on set 7038-1 Troll Assault Wagon and noticed the
two flags included are listed as different variants....the dark blue is lefted
as "wave left" and the pearl gold as "wave right"

My set has the opposite style flags, and the instructions clearly show both flags
as the "wave left" variant.

If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the inventory page:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=7038-1

you will see the following sentence:

View a log of completed changes made to this inventory.

Clicking there will display the history of changes made to this set's inventory.

  Is this a mistake in the inventory, or did the set
really come with both flags pointing in different directions?

According to BrickLink's timeline the flag change happened roughly around
2008, which is the year this set was released. So it's quite possible that
some 7038-1 sets came with left flags, some came with right flags, and some came
with both.

I see, I see. Thank you for the information. Since the flag change happened that
year, would it be correct to submit a change request for the flags and list the
"wave left" variant as the regular part since it appears that way in the instructions
and part list, and the "wave right" variant as an alternate item, do you think?
 Author: Andrsv View Messages Posted By Andrsv
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In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
  I can't help myself from returning to this topic.

It is not right to erase people who have contributed to the catalog and turn
them into a meaningless number (and a username that rhymes with "loser.").

The first attached image shows people who have contributed a set inventory to
the catalog. For each person it was only one inventory, but it was time they
took out of their day or week to make a contribution.

The second image shows people who have added items to the catalog. One person
added 113 items. Another added 97 items. Yet another added 87 items. And so
on down the list.

Some of these unregistered users are no doubt dead. Some have moved on to new
pursuits. Some may be in a coma or in prison. Who knows why any one person
hasn't logged on or may never log on again?

BrickLink wants contributions. BrickLink wants an involved community. But when
BrickLink treats former contributors so dismissively, by erasing them into meaninglessness,
it makes me think they have no respect for contributors.

BrickLink contributors deserve better treatment than this. Anonymizing people
who have contributed to the catalog was a poor decision. It was a careless and
heartless decision.

I urge the site to reconsider the decision to anonymize any former catalog and
inventory contributors.

It is probably related to privacy laws. If someone deletes their account it is
for a reason, and many want their info removed. This is a guess based on related
issues on other places.
 Author: manganschlamm View Messages Posted By manganschlamm
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In General, BLUSER13161 writes:
  I can't help myself from returning to this topic.

It is not right to erase people who have contributed to the catalog and turn
them into a meaningless number (and a username that rhymes with "loser.").

The first attached image shows people who have contributed a set inventory to
the catalog. For each person it was only one inventory, but it was time they
took out of their day or week to make a contribution.

The second image shows people who have added items to the catalog. One person
added 113 items. Another added 97 items. Yet another added 87 items. And so
on down the list.

Some of these unregistered users are no doubt dead. Some have moved on to new
pursuits. Some may be in a coma or in prison. Who knows why any one person
hasn't logged on or may never log on again?

BrickLink wants contributions. BrickLink wants an involved community. But when
BrickLink treats former contributors so dismissively, by erasing them into meaninglessness,
it makes me think they have no respect for contributors.

BrickLink contributors deserve better treatment than this. Anonymizing people
who have contributed to the catalog was a poor decision. It was a careless and
heartless decision.

I urge the site to reconsider the decision to anonymize any former catalog and
inventory contributors.


Actually the spokesperson from TLG stated that BrickLink wants contributions
and BrickLink wants an involved community. Let us take a step back and have an
objective look at recent actions and evaluate if this claim is meant as a true
commitment or not.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 13:06
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I can't help myself from returning to this topic.

It is not right to erase people who have contributed to the catalog and turn
them into a meaningless number (and a username that rhymes with "loser.").

The first attached image shows people who have contributed a set inventory to
the catalog. For each person it was only one inventory, but it was time they
took out of their day or week to make a contribution.

The second image shows people who have added items to the catalog. One person
added 113 items. Another added 97 items. Yet another added 87 items. And so
on down the list.

Some of these unregistered users are no doubt dead. Some have moved on to new
pursuits. Some may be in a coma or in prison. Who knows why any one person
hasn't logged on or may never log on again?

BrickLink wants contributions. BrickLink wants an involved community. But when
BrickLink treats former contributors so dismissively, by erasing them into meaninglessness,
it makes me think they have no respect for contributors.

BrickLink contributors deserve better treatment than this. Anonymizing people
who have contributed to the catalog was a poor decision. It was a careless and
heartless decision.

I urge the site to reconsider the decision to anonymize any former catalog and
inventory contributors.
 


 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 13:06
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In Suggestions, bje writes:
  […]
+1^google*1^google
Enough said

Er, Jean, I’ve noticed you already used “+1^google*1^google” or something similar
a couple of times.
You do know 1^(whatever) is always 1, don’t you?
 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 12:58
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In Suggestions, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  Admin,

Please implement 2FA or some other additional login security to BrickLink account.

2FA = 2-Factor-Authentication

It could help prevent hacking or stealing of accounts and account & inventory
information.

Of course this could be set as optional on the account.

Thank you.

I could not be any more opposed to this.

+1^google*1^google
Enough said
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 12:47
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In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
  In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  The HAVE is not the phone, it’s the phone number, and that’s a KNOW. SMS can
be intercepted (both locally and remotely) and SIM cards can be duplicated.

As I said, it’s more difficult than just what script kiddies do nowadays, but
it’s only a 1k$ investment to intercept SMS remotely because the SMS protocole
is not secure. It might even already cost less.
And a malware that can intercept the SMS on the phone costs even less but you
need to put it on the phone but that is not that difficult.

So, again, yes, 2FA adds hurdles but the SMS hurdles are lower than you think
they are.

(I should know better than to argue with you - you always spin it around so you
are not wrong.)

What did I spin?

In the local attack case, adding something to the same device that already has/knows
everything doesn’t add security, just a warm and dangerous feeling of security.
In the remote attack case, the SMS protocole is not secure and intercepting an
SMS locally or remotely is possible.

Once again, I never claimed 2FA isn’t worthy of interest, I said “please, no
SMS-2FA” and “beware having everything on the same device.”


  I would love to see you, being in France, with any "1k$ investment" intercepting
a cell TXT message sent from BrickLink to my Canadian cell phone.

I’m not a criminal but I know what they are capable of.
Search for SS7, SMS and 2FA and you’ll know too.
Or keep believing in rainbow-producing unicorns.
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 12:31
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In Suggestions, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/mini-fig-ure-outer/comics/2fa.php

Couldn't have summed it up better myself.
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
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http://v4ei.com/mini-fig-ure-outer/comics/2fa.php
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 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 12:23
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In Suggestions, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  Admin,

Please implement 2FA or some other additional login security to BrickLink account.

2FA = 2-Factor-Authentication

It could help prevent hacking or stealing of accounts and account & inventory
information.

Of course this could be set as optional on the account.

Thank you.

I could not be any more opposed to this.

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Just adds more clumsiness to the site. The UK has recently adopted a multi authentication
system for online banking and shopping and to say the least it is a pain the
...., and as mobile phones are one of the most insecure devices on the planet
we simply do not understand how they can believe it is more secure. Far less
in reality/

This, perhaps, is what we see when an intellectual who sits behind a desk all
day comes up with ideas which bear no relationship to reality.
 Author: Yo_Yo_Flamingo View Messages Posted By Yo_Yo_Flamingo
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 12:16
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In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  Admin,

Please implement 2FA or some other additional login security to BrickLink account.

2FA = 2-Factor-Authentication

It could help prevent hacking or stealing of accounts and account & inventory
information.

Of course this could be set as optional on the account.

Thank you.

I could not be any more opposed to this.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 11:49
 Subject: Re: Question about flags (parts 4495a and 4495b)
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In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
  I am replacing a few parts on set 7038-1 Troll Assault Wagon and noticed the
two flags included are listed as different variants....the dark blue is lefted
as "wave left" and the pearl gold as "wave right"

My set has the opposite style flags, and the instructions clearly show both flags
as the "wave left" variant.

If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the inventory page:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=7038-1

you will see the following sentence:

View a log of completed changes made to this inventory.

Clicking there will display the history of changes made to this set's inventory.

  Is this a mistake in the inventory, or did the set
really come with both flags pointing in different directions?

According to BrickLink's timeline the flag change happened roughly around
2008, which is the year this set was released. So it's quite possible that
some 7038-1 sets came with left flags, some came with right flags, and some came
with both.
 Author: qwertyboy View Messages Posted By qwertyboy
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 11:45
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  The HAVE is not the phone, it’s the phone number, and that’s a KNOW. SMS can
be intercepted (both locally and remotely) and SIM cards can be duplicated.

As I said, it’s more difficult than just what script kiddies do nowadays, but
it’s only a 1k$ investment to intercept SMS remotely because the SMS protocole
is not secure. It might even already cost less.
And a malware that can intercept the SMS on the phone costs even less but you
need to put it on the phone but that is not that difficult.

So, again, yes, 2FA adds hurdles but the SMS hurdles are lower than you think
they are.

(I should know better than to argue with you - you always spin it around so you
are not wrong.)

I would love to see you, being in France, with any "1k$ investment" intercepting
a cell TXT message sent from BrickLink to my Canadian cell phone.

Niek.
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
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In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
  agulus’s input in this thread has reignited a persistent and nagging thought
of mine: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1176265

It’s a valid point made by member agulus, that has unfortunately been ongoing
as an issue, in the face of contrary input towards the feedback policy.

I’ve brought it up in the past, that a neutral should be just that, neutral,
and not effect your feedback percentage number displayed, up or down.

Beyond the obvious reasons, is the fact that there are many newish buyers that
mistakenly see BL’s neutral, as neutral. Silly people Meanwhile, it continues
to result in an amount of havoc in that arena of BrickLink.

I look forward to reading your honest thoughts

The thinking on this has been brought up from time to time, going back a while.
This member stated his case well, two years ago: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1081558
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
  […]
  Remote: someone copies your credentials (login+password), your KNOW.
Oh, it’s okay, they don’t have the HAVE!
But of course they do! Because your HAVE is only a phone number, which is actually
a KNOW.

No, you don't understand. In the case OP described, the HAVE is implemented
by a TXT message to a registered cell phone number.

- The site registers a login with username/password (the KNOW);
- It sends a TXT message to a registered cell number (the HAVE);
- User needs to type that TXT message in a separate box on the login page.

You (as a hacker) won't be able to see that TXT message because you don't
HAVE that cell phone, so you can't type that message in, and hence you can't
complete the authentication process.

Please let me know how "SylvainLS" in France can type in the secret code that
was sent to my cell phone in Canada.

The HAVE is not the phone, it’s the phone number, and that’s a KNOW. SMS can
be intercepted (both locally and remotely) and SIM cards can be duplicated.

As I said, it’s more difficult than just what script kiddies do nowadays, but
it’s only a 1k$ investment to intercept SMS remotely because the SMS protocole
is not secure. It might even already cost less.
And a malware that can intercept the SMS on the phone costs even less but you
need to put it on the phone but that is not that difficult.

So, again, yes, 2FA adds hurdles but the SMS hurdles are lower than you think
they are.
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
  […]
2FA is also referred to "something you know, and something you have". 2FA is
not meant to make sure it is you that is using your phone. Rather, it is meant
to do a second check after "someone" logged in (and used the "something you know")
by making sure that person also clears the "something you have" hurdle.

Saying 2FA implementations are generally flawed because they don't check
you are using the same device makes no sense. It is not meant to do that check.

It is meant to prevent "SylvainLS" in France to log into account "qwertyboy".
Good luck doing that if 2FA sends my Canadian phone a txt.

Let me be clearer. There are two types of attack: remote and local.

Local: someone steals or hacks your device, your HAVE.
Oh, it’s okay, they don’t have the KNOW!
But of course they do! Because everything is stored on your phone, including
the KNOW.


Remote: someone copies your credentials (login+password), your KNOW.
Oh, it’s okay, they don’t have the HAVE!
But of course they do! Because your HAVE is only a phone number, which is actually
a KNOW.

No, you don't understand. In the case OP described, the HAVE is implemented
by a TXT message to a registered cell phone number.

- The site registers a login with username/password (the KNOW);
- It sends a TXT message to a registered cell number (the HAVE);
- User needs to type that TXT message in a separate box on the login page.

You (as a hacker) won't be able to see that TXT message because you don't
HAVE that cell phone, so you can't type that message in, and hence you can't
complete the authentication process.

Please let me know how "SylvainLS" in France can type in the secret code that
was sent to my cell phone in Canada.

Niek.
 Author: minithings4life View Messages Posted By minithings4life
 Posted: Jan 24, 2020 09:47
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Minifig No: pln155s  Name: Plain White Torso with Vestas Logo (Sticker) with White Arms, Dark Blue Legs, Red Construction Helmet, Glasses
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pln155s (Inv) Plain White Torso with Vestas Logo (Sticker) with White Arms, Dark Blue Legs, Red Construction Helmet, Glasses
Minifigures: Town: City

* Change 1 Part {Blue to Dark Blue} 970c00 Hips and Legs

Comments from Submitter:
legs should be dark blue not blue, have checked a sealed set.
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Minifig No: pln156s  Name: Plain White Torso with Vestas Logo (Sticker) with White Arms, Dark Blue Legs, Red Construction Helmet, Vertical Cheek Lines
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pln156s (Inv) Plain White Torso with Vestas Logo (Sticker) with White Arms, Dark Blue Legs, Red Construction Helmet, Vertical Cheek Lines
Minifigures: Town: City

* Change 1 Part {Blue to Dark Blue} 970c00 Hips and Legs

Comments from Submitter:
Legs should be dark blue not blue, checked a sealed set.
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In Suggestions, Pippyblocks writes:
  I say yes to this too, I had my first neutral quite early on and it killed my
100% there and then. It was a positive too and the customer wasn't sure how
to change it. On the flip side it means you don't ever have to worry about
maintaining 100% anymore But yeah feedback I believe has become more and
more dated across platforms. I only ever bother to look at feedback if it's
a significant amount I'm spending.

Fantastic input!

Thanks
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In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
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2FA is also referred to "something you know, and something you have". 2FA is
not meant to make sure it is you that is using your phone. Rather, it is meant
to do a second check after "someone" logged in (and used the "something you know")
by making sure that person also clears the "something you have" hurdle.

Saying 2FA implementations are generally flawed because they don't check
you are using the same device makes no sense. It is not meant to do that check.

It is meant to prevent "SylvainLS" in France to log into account "qwertyboy".
Good luck doing that if 2FA sends my Canadian phone a txt.

Let me be clearer. There are two types of attack: remote and local.

Local: someone steals or hacks your device, your HAVE.
Oh, it’s okay, they don’t have the KNOW!
But of course they do! Because everything is stored on your phone, including
the KNOW.


Remote: someone copies your credentials (login+password), your KNOW.
Oh, it’s okay, they don’t have the HAVE!
But of course they do! Because your HAVE is only a phone number, which is actually
a KNOW.
Granted, a KNOW a bit more difficult to use than login+password, but still very
usable.


I’m not saying 2FA is bad. I’m saying 2FA isn’t a panacea, one-device 2FAs less
of one, and SMS-2FA even less of one.
I’m not advocating not to add 2FA, I’m just saying “careful with SMS-2FA.”

Anyway, all this is moot because BrickLink, and BrickLink and phones….
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In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
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Obviously the idea behind 2FA is that you're NOT using the same device.

Yeah, that’s the idea but unfortunately, that’s not the common practice.

Apparently it is not YOUR practice. Don't generalize what you don't know.

Apparently nothing, because it’s not my practice.

I’m talking about what I see people do while you’re assuming your case is the
general one.


  
  
  
   I
personally never use the same device. Also, besides SMS there are authentication
apps which are secured by a pincode. In general, 2FA is regarded as the standard
safe login method today whereas 1FA is considered not safe enough anymore. Hence
the suggestion.

I understand the suggestion. I’m just pointing one pitfall.

“Regarded” is the problem here: people feel confident when in reality the implementation
is generally flawed.
How many websites check you’re not using the same device?
None, because it can’t be done.

2FA is not meant to be 100% safe,

Nothing is 100% safe, that’s not my point.
My point is things being presented as safer than they are.


  
   just SAFER than 1FA. You do not have to use
it if you don't want to. But, if the passwords were stolen, they can login
with 1FA but not with 2FA.

Except that, if they have your phone number, — and they will get it when they
get your passwords —, they can intercept your SMS.
Granted, it demands a little bit more investment than what script kiddies are
used to _now_, but SMS-2FA is less safe than other 2FAs.

And what one-device 2FAs do is actually replace a KNOW, your login+password,
with a HAVE, your device, because the device already KNOWS everything.


  Even if you have just one device only, as you have Sylvain

Assume, assume….
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I say yes to this too, I had my first neutral quite early on and it killed my
100% there and then. It was a positive too and the customer wasn't sure how
to change it. On the flip side it means you don't ever have to worry about
maintaining 100% anymore But yeah feedback I believe has become more and
more dated across platforms. I only ever bother to look at feedback if it's
a significant amount I'm spending.

In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
  agulus’s input in this thread has reignited a persistent and nagging thought
of mine: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1176265

It’s a valid point made by member agulus, that has unfortunately been ongoing
as an issue, in the face of contrary input towards the feedback policy.

I’ve brought it up in the past, that a neutral should be just that, neutral,
and not effect your feedback percentage number displayed, up or down.

Beyond the obvious reasons, is the fact that there are many newish buyers that
mistakenly see BL’s neutral, as neutral. Silly people Meanwhile, it continues
to result in an amount of havoc in that arena of BrickLink.

I look forward to reading your honest thoughts

-Cory
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In Suggestions, crxefx writes:
  Same feeling exactly. As much as I love the 100% feedback score our store has,
I will admit that we have made mistakes that should have received neutral feedback
at some point. On the other hand, If you have 1000 positives and 10 neutrals.
Should you still have 100% feedback score? I'm not sure myself how to approach
the feedback system. To compound on that thought, When ordering I never bother
to check a sellers feedback rating so... Does it matter? Does everyone take the
time to check? I don't know.

-Andy

For me as a seller the best meaning for neutral would be for example
that in worst scenario there were problems with order but
it was easy to work on the issue with seller but the buyer
is not 100% satisfied because he/she got only a refund not the part
he/she needed. I wouldn't mind to get a neutral in those
situations if this feedback wouldn't change the percentage.

Sometimes I buy parts on BL and I always look at feedback.
It gives you a lot of information about the seller.

-Agnes
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In Suggestions, crxefx writes:
  Same feeling exactly. As much as I love the 100% feedback score our store has,
I will admit that we have made mistakes that should have received neutral feedback
at some point. On the other hand, If you have 1000 positives and 10 neutrals.
Should you still have 100% feedback score? I'm not sure myself how to approach
the feedback system. To compound on that thought, When ordering I never bother
to check a sellers feedback rating so... Does it matter? Does everyone take the
time to check? I don't know.

-Andy

Valid thoughts. Good input.

Thanks
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In Suggestions, leopard37 writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In an ideal world if the feedback system was worded a little differently we'd
see a more meaningful feedback system perhaps where sellers could actually get
better recognition when they go above and beyond the norm! i.e If it was worded
something like this:-

Please rate this transaction:-

Bad - (Problems with the transaction)
Good - (Smooth transaction)
Outstanding - (Seller went beyond expectations!)

Imagine you have two sellers with 500 feedback where one has 492 Good and 8 Outstanding
the other has 425 Good and 75 Outstanding this would give a whole new meaning
to the feedback system and how we see sellers overall rather than the somewhat
redundant Neutral which seems to be seen as a minor negative!

How many new users rate the postal system not the order. This is also a flaw.
Especially if the seller doesn't accurately say when the package was shipped.

Tyson.

Good point!

Thanks
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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In an ideal world if the feedback system was worded a little differently we'd
see a more meaningful feedback system perhaps where sellers could actually get
better recognition when they go above and beyond the norm! i.e If it was worded
something like this:-

Please rate this transaction:-

Bad - (Problems with the transaction)
Good - (Smooth transaction)
Outstanding - (Seller went beyond expectations!)

Imagine you have two sellers with 500 feedback where one has 492 Good and 8 Outstanding
the other has 425 Good and 75 Outstanding this would give a whole new meaning
to the feedback system and how we see sellers overall rather than the somewhat
redundant Neutral which seems to be seen as a minor negative!

What a novel idea. I like it. A seller can better work at negating the effects
of mistakes or unjust feedback

Thanks
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In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  Admin,

Please implement 2FA or some other additional login security to BrickLink account.

2FA = 2-Factor-Authentication

It could help prevent hacking or stealing of accounts and account & inventory
information.

Of course this could be set as optional on the account.

Thank you.

I would fully support and do fully encourage this to happen
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In Suggestions, leopard37 writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In an ideal world if the feedback system was worded a little differently we'd
see a more meaningful feedback system perhaps where sellers could actually get
better recognition when they go above and beyond the norm! i.e If it was worded
something like this:-

Please rate this transaction:-

Bad - (Problems with the transaction)
Good - (Smooth transaction)
Outstanding - (Seller went beyond expectations!)

Imagine you have two sellers with 500 feedback where one has 492 Good and 8 Outstanding
the other has 425 Good and 75 Outstanding this would give a whole new meaning
to the feedback system and how we see sellers overall rather than the somewhat
redundant Neutral which seems to be seen as a minor negative!

How many new users rate the postal system not the order. This is also a flaw.
Especially if the seller doesn't accurately say when the package was shipped.

Tyson.

But if you let the buyer know when the goods were or will be shipped most buyers
will be understanding and take that into consideration. Sometimes you may be
penalised because of the fault of the courier but as sellers we are all in the
same boat and if you nearly always ship same day or next business day this in
the long term will be reflected overall in your feedback rating whereas if a
seller usually ships within 3-4 days it stands to reason that their rating might
not be so good for instance an 'Outstanding' rating might be given where
a buyer pays for their order right at the end of the day 4-5pm and is surprised
and overwhelmed to get their goods next day therefore they might decide leave
an oustanding instead of Good.
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Lol! what if you only have one device thought
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In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  Admin,

Please implement 2FA or some other additional login security to BrickLink account.

2FA = 2-Factor-Authentication

It could help prevent hacking or stealing of accounts and account & inventory
information.

Of course this could be set as optional on the account.

Thank you.

To clarify: with the current 1FA if Bricklink accounts were stolen all accounts
can be logged on to, with 2FA that can't.
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  In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
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Obviously the idea behind 2FA is that you're NOT using the same device.

Yeah, that’s the idea but unfortunately, that’s not the common practice.

Apparently it is not YOUR practice. Don't generalize what you don't know.
  

   I
personally never use the same device. Also, besides SMS there are authentication
apps which are secured by a pincode. In general, 2FA is regarded as the standard
safe login method today whereas 1FA is considered not safe enough anymore. Hence
the suggestion.

I understand the suggestion. I’m just pointing one pitfall.

“Regarded” is the problem here: people feel confident when in reality the implementation
is generally flawed.
How many websites check you’re not using the same device?
None, because it can’t be done.

2FA is not meant to be 100% safe, just SAFER than 1FA. You do not have to use
it if you don't want to. But, if the passwords were stolen, they can login
with 1FA but not with 2FA.

Even if you have just one device only, as you have Sylvain
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
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Obviously the idea behind 2FA is that you're NOT using the same device.

Yeah, that’s the idea but unfortunately, that’s not the common practice.

Apparently it is not YOUR practice. Don't generalize what you don't know.
  

   I
personally never use the same device. Also, besides SMS there are authentication
apps which are secured by a pincode. In general, 2FA is regarded as the standard
safe login method today whereas 1FA is considered not safe enough anymore. Hence
the suggestion.

I understand the suggestion. I’m just pointing one pitfall.

“Regarded” is the problem here: people feel confident when in reality the implementation
is generally flawed.
How many websites check you’re not using the same device?
None, because it can’t be done.

2FA is not meant to be 100% safe, just SAFER than 1FA. You do not have to use
it if you don't want to. But, if the passwords were stolen, they can login
with 1FA but not with 2FA.
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Same feeling exactly. As much as I love the 100% feedback score our store has,
I will admit that we have made mistakes that should have received neutral feedback
at some point. On the other hand, If you have 1000 positives and 10 neutrals.
Should you still have 100% feedback score? I'm not sure myself how to approach
the feedback system. To compound on that thought, When ordering I never bother
to check a sellers feedback rating so... Does it matter? Does everyone take the
time to check? I don't know.

-Andy
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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In an ideal world if the feedback system was worded a little differently we'd
see a more meaningful feedback system perhaps where sellers could actually get
better recognition when they go above and beyond the norm! i.e If it was worded
something like this:-

Please rate this transaction:-

Bad - (Problems with the transaction)
Good - (Smooth transaction)
Outstanding - (Seller went beyond expectations!)

Imagine you have two sellers with 500 feedback where one has 492 Good and 8 Outstanding
the other has 425 Good and 75 Outstanding this would give a whole new meaning
to the feedback system and how we see sellers overall rather than the somewhat
redundant Neutral which seems to be seen as a minor negative!

How many new users rate the postal system not the order. This is also a flaw.
Especially if the seller doesn't accurately say when the package was shipped.

Tyson.
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In an ideal world if the feedback system was worded a little differently we'd
see a more meaningful feedback system perhaps where sellers could actually get
better recognition when they go above and beyond the norm! i.e If it was worded
something like this:-

Please rate this transaction:-

Bad - (Problems with the transaction)
Good - (Smooth transaction)
Outstanding - (Seller went beyond expectations!)

Imagine you have two sellers with 500 feedback where one has 492 Good and 8 Outstanding
the other has 425 Good and 75 Outstanding this would give a whole new meaning
to the feedback system and how we see sellers overall rather than the somewhat
redundant Neutral which seems to be seen as a minor negative!
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I am replacing a few parts on set 7038-1 Troll Assault Wagon and noticed the
two flags included are listed as different variants....the dark blue is lefted
as "wave left" and the pearl gold as "wave right"

My set has the opposite style flags, and the instructions clearly show both flags
as the "wave left" variant. Is this a mistake in the inventory, or did the set
really come with both flags pointing in different directions?
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In Suggestions, Captain_Q writes:
  In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
  agulus’s input in this thread has reignited a persistent and nagging thought
of mine: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1176265

It’s a valid point made by member agulus, that has unfortunately been ongoing
as an issue, in the face of contrary input towards the feedback policy.

I’ve brought it up in the past, that a neutral should be just that, neutral,
and not effect your feedback percentage number displayed, up or down.

Beyond the obvious reasons, is the fact that there are many newish buyers that
mistakenly see BL’s neutral, as neutral. Silly people Meanwhile, it continues
to result in an amount of havoc in that arena of BrickLink.

I look forward to reading your honest thoughts

-Cory


I think Bl's feedback system is somewhat dated. Neutral's should be
more benign rather then similar to negatives.

CURRENT BL FEEDBACK SYSTEM
Positive: accurate
Neutral: overly harsh / may encourage retaliation
Negative: accurate yet may encourage retaliation




I think emulating the eBay model would be a good adaptation. The feedback percentage
is more reflective of a seller's current feedback reputation of the last
12 months vs lifetime like on Bricklink. Meaning a single negative from 6 years
ago doesn't hold the overall feedback percentage down beyond a year, that
is if the seller has cleaned up their act and do no accrue any more negatives/neutrals.


I see frequent enough comment threads here on Bricklink that have complaints
about a seller or buyer receiving retaliation feedback or expressing fear that
they may receive one if they leave accurate feedback. Negatives are warning signs
for sellers to work harder and make improvements. But if the punishment is too
harsh then message may not be received properly.
This mindset has potential to create a retaliatory like atmosphere.

- Captain Q

Interesting thoughts and great input, as usual. Thanks!
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In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
  agulus’s input in this thread has reignited a persistent and nagging thought
of mine: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1176265

It’s a valid point made by member agulus, that has unfortunately been ongoing
as an issue, in the face of contrary input towards the feedback policy.

I’ve brought it up in the past, that a neutral should be just that, neutral,
and not effect your feedback percentage number displayed, up or down.

Beyond the obvious reasons, is the fact that there are many newish buyers that
mistakenly see BL’s neutral, as neutral. Silly people Meanwhile, it continues
to result in an amount of havoc in that arena of BrickLink.

I look forward to reading your honest thoughts

-Cory


I think Bl's feedback system is somewhat dated. Neutral's should be
more benign rather then similar to negatives.

CURRENT BL FEEDBACK SYSTEM
Positive: accurate
Neutral: overly harsh / may encourage retaliation
Negative: accurate yet may encourage retaliation




I think emulating the eBay model would be a good adaptation. The feedback percentage
is more reflective of a seller's current feedback reputation of the last
12 months vs lifetime like on Bricklink. Meaning a single negative from 6 years
ago doesn't hold the overall feedback percentage down beyond a year, that
is if the seller has cleaned up their act and do no accrue any more negatives/neutrals.


I see frequent enough comment threads here on Bricklink that have complaints
about a seller or buyer receiving retaliation feedback or expressing fear that
they may receive one if they leave accurate feedback. Negatives are warning signs
for sellers to work harder and make improvements. But if the punishment is too
harsh then message may not be received properly.
This mindset has potential to create a retaliatory like atmosphere.

- Captain Q
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  Wow, congratulation. That says to me that
your customer service is exquisite

Thank you, but I'm not speaking of that.

It's unjust, I feel. Given that BL has decided to display, so glaringly,
that number for potential buyers, a neutral should be neutral.

-Cory
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Wow, congratulation. That says to me that
your customer service is exquisite
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In Suggestions, agulus writes:
  In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
  agulus’s input in this thread has reignited a persistent and nagging thought
of mine: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1176265

It’s a valid point made by member agulus, that has unfortunately been ongoing
as an issue, in the face of contrary input towards the feedback policy.

I’ve brought it up in the past, that a neutral should be just that, neutral,
and not effect your feedback percentage number displayed, up or down.

Beyond the obvious reasons, is the fact that there are many newish buyers that
mistakenly see BL’s neutral, as neutral. Silly people Meanwhile, it continues
to result in an amount of havoc in that arena of BrickLink.

I look forward to reading your honest thoughts

-Cory

I have to admit that I made a mistake by writing that
neutral gives -1. I't doesn't! I went too far because every time I see
a post about neutral feedback my feelings
toward this issue are building up while I'm waiting for my first one

Yes, you did.

However, I'm referring to what you did get right, the glaring display of
feedback percentage, that potential buyers see when landing on a new store page.

For some reason, that number is moved down with a neutral.
 
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In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
  agulus’s input in this thread has reignited a persistent and nagging thought
of mine: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1176265

It’s a valid point made by member agulus, that has unfortunately been ongoing
as an issue, in the face of contrary input towards the feedback policy.

I’ve brought it up in the past, that a neutral should be just that, neutral,
and not effect your feedback percentage number displayed, up or down.

Beyond the obvious reasons, is the fact that there are many newish buyers that
mistakenly see BL’s neutral, as neutral. Silly people Meanwhile, it continues
to result in an amount of havoc in that arena of BrickLink.

I look forward to reading your honest thoughts

-Cory

I have to admit that I made a mistake by writing that
neutral gives -1. I't doesn't! I went too far because every time I see
a post about neutral feedback my feelings
toward this issue are building up while I'm waiting for my first one
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
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Obviously the idea behind 2FA is that you're NOT using the same device.

Yeah, that’s the idea but unfortunately, that’s not the common practice.


   I
personally never use the same device. Also, besides SMS there are authentication
apps which are secured by a pincode. In general, 2FA is regarded as the standard
safe login method today whereas 1FA is considered not safe enough anymore. Hence
the suggestion.

I understand the suggestion. I’m just pointing one pitfall.

“Regarded” is the problem here: people feel confident when in reality the implementation
is generally flawed.
How many websites check you’re not using the same device?
None, because it can’t be done.

2FA is also referred to "something you know, and something you have". 2FA is
not meant to make sure it is you that is using your phone. Rather, it is meant
to do a second check after "someone" logged in (and used the "something you know")
by making sure that person also clears the "something you have" hurdle.

Saying 2FA implementations are generally flawed because they don't check
you are using the same device makes no sense. It is not meant to do that check.
It is meant to prevent "SylvainLS" in France to log into account "qwertyboy".
Good luck doing that if 2FA sends my Canadian phone a txt.

Niek.
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In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
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Obviously the idea behind 2FA is that you're NOT using the same device.

Yeah, that’s the idea but unfortunately, that’s not the common practice.


   I
personally never use the same device. Also, besides SMS there are authentication
apps which are secured by a pincode. In general, 2FA is regarded as the standard
safe login method today whereas 1FA is considered not safe enough anymore. Hence
the suggestion.

I understand the suggestion. I’m just pointing one pitfall.

“Regarded” is the problem here: people feel confident when in reality the implementation
is generally flawed.
How many websites check you’re not using the same device?
None, because it can’t be done.
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  Admin,

Please implement 2FA or some other additional login security to BrickLink account.

2FA = 2-Factor-Authentication

It could help prevent hacking or stealing of accounts and account & inventory
information.

Of course this could be set as optional on the account.

The main problem I have with 2FA is that, most of the time, the implementation
consists in sending an SMS on the same phone the user is already using to browse
the website, and that makes it 1FA (we’re checking the person holding the phone
can use the phone’s browser and read SMS on the same phone, whoopee).
This gives a false sense of security.

Obviously the idea behind 2FA is that you're NOT using the same device. I
personally never use the same device. Also, besides SMS there are authentication
apps which are secured by a pincode. In general, 2FA is regarded as the standard
safe login method today whereas 1FA is considered not safe enough anymore. Hence
the suggestion.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  Admin,

Please implement 2FA or some other additional login security to BrickLink account.

2FA = 2-Factor-Authentication

It could help prevent hacking or stealing of accounts and account & inventory
information.

Of course this could be set as optional on the account.

The main problem I have with 2FA is that, most of the time, the implementation
consists in sending an SMS on the same phone the user is already using to browse
the website, and that makes it 1FA (we’re checking the person holding the phone
can use the phone’s browser and read SMS on the same phone, whoopee).
This gives a false sense of security.
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Admin,

Please implement 2FA or some other additional login security to BrickLink account.

2FA = 2-Factor-Authentication

It could help prevent hacking or stealing of accounts and account & inventory
information.

Of course this could be set as optional on the account.

Thank you.
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
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In Suggestions, bje writes:
  In Suggestions, Rarah writes:
  Is it possible to create 2 addresses that I can always choose from when completing
an order? I have one address in Slovakia for most orders and one in Czech Republic
for CZ orders. Now the only way around is to simply edit my address and after
order placed change it back. because some stores have automated payment for shipping
and if I don´t change the country i don´t get the right options. I know people
in US will probably not understand why I need something but specifically for
people in SK/CZ many people have address in both countries to optimize shipping
cost etc. It´s from the past but that country difference makes me save 7 EUR
on shipping when I instead of 9€ pay just 2€.

Not possible, despite it making complete sense. In fact on every webstore I've
used I get a billing and delivery address, even the certified store has that
here so it is nothing strange.

You will have to continue changing the address here every time
https://www.bricklink.com/pref_address.asp

I do not think sellers can see your history any longer so it is just inconvenient.

We agree - it is strange and very old fashioned. It is a strong reason why we
do not use stores where online payment (paypal is used) the addres validation
does not work properly.

We need at least 2 addresses . We can have as many addresses as we need on Paypal
why not here?
  I've had 21 of them since September last year
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In Suggestions, Rarah writes:
  Is it possible to create 2 addresses that I can always choose from when completing
an order? I have one address in Slovakia for most orders and one in Czech Republic
for CZ orders. Now the only way around is to simply edit my address and after
order placed change it back. because some stores have automated payment for shipping
and if I don´t change the country i don´t get the right options. I know people
in US will probably not understand why I need something but specifically for
people in SK/CZ many people have address in both countries to optimize shipping
cost etc. It´s from the past but that country difference makes me save 7 EUR
on shipping when I instead of 9€ pay just 2€.

We share your issue with 2 locations for our store but nothing like this is going
to be done until the new owners are in and settled and reach out to the membership
for priorities etc.
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In Suggestions, Rarah writes:
  Is it possible to create 2 addresses that I can always choose from when completing
an order? I have one address in Slovakia for most orders and one in Czech Republic
for CZ orders. Now the only way around is to simply edit my address and after
order placed change it back. because some stores have automated payment for shipping
and if I don´t change the country i don´t get the right options. I know people
in US will probably not understand why I need something but specifically for
people in SK/CZ many people have address in both countries to optimize shipping
cost etc. It´s from the past but that country difference makes me save 7 EUR
on shipping when I instead of 9€ pay just 2€.

Not possible, despite it making complete sense. In fact on every webstore I've
used I get a billing and delivery address, even the certified store has that
here so it is nothing strange.

You will have to continue changing the address here every time
https://www.bricklink.com/pref_address.asp

I do not think sellers can see your history any longer so it is just inconvenient.
I've had 21 of them since September last year
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Is it possible to create 2 addresses that I can always choose from when completing
an order? I have one address in Slovakia for most orders and one in Czech Republic
for CZ orders. Now the only way around is to simply edit my address and after
order placed change it back. because some stores have automated payment for shipping
and if I don´t change the country i don´t get the right options. I know people
in US will probably not understand why I need something but specifically for
people in SK/CZ many people have address in both countries to optimize shipping
cost etc. It´s from the past but that country difference makes me save 7 EUR
on shipping when I instead of 9€ pay just 2€.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Suggestions, seclimar writes:
  yes, this can help and solve partially...
would be nice to have all the shops that are fully (or partially) covering the
wanted list

That’s what Wanted Lists are for.

When you have made a Wanted List, go to the Buy page ( https://www.bricklink.com/v2/wanted/buy.page
).
Select your WL and it will show you all the stores that have some (or all) your
wanted items.

There are many options on the page.
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yes, this can help and solve partially...
would be nice to have all the shops that are fully (or partially) covering the
wanted list
thanks for the answer!


In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, seclimar writes:
  I would like to have a search that allow to search multiple part numbers (maybe
comma separated)

so that I don't have manually to check if each seller is also selling other
needed parts
is already existent a similar funcionality ?

if today I need to buy 2 different pieces, I search for one part. in the list
of shops that appears, I will manually see all the ones selling also the second
part.
Imagine if I am looking for 3 or more different pieces!


thanks for any enhancement or tip

Marco

If you create a wanted list then visit a shop you can then view the wanted items
that the shop has available
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In Suggestions, seclimar writes:
  I would like to have a search that allow to search multiple part numbers (maybe
comma separated)

so that I don't have manually to check if each seller is also selling other
needed parts
is already existent a similar funcionality ?

if today I need to buy 2 different pieces, I search for one part. in the list
of shops that appears, I will manually see all the ones selling also the second
part.
Imagine if I am looking for 3 or more different pieces!


thanks for any enhancement or tip

Marco

If you create a wanted list then visit a shop you can then view the wanted items
that the shop has available
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I would like to have a search that allow to search multiple part numbers (maybe
comma separated)

so that I don't have manually to check if each seller is also selling other
needed parts
is already existent a similar funcionality ?

if today I need to buy 2 different pieces, I search for one part. in the list
of shops that appears, I will manually see all the ones selling also the second
part.
Imagine if I am looking for 3 or more different pieces!


thanks for any enhancement or tip

Marco
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Jan 23, 2020 09:03
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In Catalog, Andrsv writes:
  Why don't you want it out there? What's wrong?

PM me.
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  In Catalog, Andrsv writes:
  
I'll host it here http://avbricks.no/

Respectfully, Yeah, no. That happens, I’m going to have issues with two of you.

Andrsv, you want to take the two hours to write yourself your version based on
the instructions I’ve posted, then fine. Don doesn’t want that old version out
there and neither do I.

Also, be aware you may have maintenance issues with the code, and you’re probably
going to need to update regularly for colors.

He linked to my page from goatleg.no. What makes you think he don't want
someone to host it?

Why don't you want it out there? What's wrong?

Btw, I haven't used it myself, I just noticed people wanted it.

I may update it on request. Also I plan to put a tool there which combines duplicates
in your inventory. Currently I'm running a lot of self-made tools locally,
I needed a place to host it

I've bookmarked your instructions on how to create search function. It was
too long to read, so I didn't have time yesterday. Is it better than goatleg?
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
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In Catalog, Andrsv writes:
  
I'll host it here http://avbricks.no/

Respectfully, Yeah, no. That happens, I’m going to have issues with two of you.

Andrsv, you want to take the two hours to write yourself your version based on
the instructions I’ve posted, then fine. Don doesn’t want that old version out
there and neither do I.

Also, be aware you may have maintenance issues with the code, and you’re probably
going to need to update regularly for colors.
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In Catalog, randyipp writes:
  In Catalog, spattersonlego writes:
  Who is willing to start a search site to replace goatleg?
I'm sure people would be willing to pay a small fee to use it. I would.

I have my own copy of the mini-figure-outer site that I always found to be far
superior. Could not get used to a frame above (goatleg) unless I rotated my
monitor to portrait mode. I'm a tab person.

Nice part is with your own copy you can move things like the colors yellow and
light flesh to the top of the list under head colors. I also ripped out the
color headings and tweaked it to make it as fast as possible (for me anyway).

Wanna share?

I'll host it here http://avbricks.no/
 Author: Andrsv View Messages Posted By Andrsv
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In Catalog, spattersonlego writes:
  Who is willing to start a search site to replace goatleg?
I'm sure people would be willing to pay a small fee to use it. I would.

Moved it to here:
http://avbricks.no
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 Posted: Jan 23, 2020 01:20
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 75249  Name: Resistance Y-Wing Starfighter
* 
75249-1 (Inv) Resistance Y-Wing Starfighter
560 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 2019
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 9

* Add 2 Part 44302b Dark Bluish Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End without Bottom Groove (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Dark Bluish Gray 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove {match ID 0 to 1}

Comments from Submitter:
from part-out
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 23, 2020 00:12
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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  Many historic accounts, such as major contributors or Dan's own personal
account were intentionally untouched by the process.

Thank you for sharing.

I was wondering why Swanberg's account retained the name. Since major contributors
will not be turned into blusers at some point, then I feel much better about
the whole thing.

I don't want to be a bluser.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
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In Suggestions, BLUSER13161 writes:
  In Suggestions, dcarmine writes:
  I noticed this user name a few weeks ago. I wondered what is going on because
the users have some feedback but is no longer registered.

Can you share what you learned?

Recently there was a secret clearing-out of old BrickLink accounts, presumably
related to the site sale to TLG. No information was released, but members noticed
that the number of registered users suddenly dropped dramatically.

The criteria for removing accounts was not shared, but I assume it was based
on the last time a member logged into the site. So perhaps if a member had not
logged in for five years, for example, their account was deleted (or, if not
deleted, somehow removed from the list of registered users).

Around the same time I noticed these Bluser accounts as contributors. I didn't
connect the two events until today when I looked at the contributions page for
inventories and figured out what was going on. The site needed to maintain credit
for catalog work completed, but with accounts deleted/disabled there was no username
to credit.

Note that this page, last updated in 2010, claims that accounts cannot be deleted
if certain conditions have been met. Some of those conditions are contributing
to the catalog:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=129

So certain accounts were renamed, although it doesn't look like they were
deleted. Not sure why they needed to be renamed, since this was all done (as
usual) in secret.

Here's what the Bluser accounts mean:

BLUSER_40105 = BrickLink USER ID 40105

All of the above is pure speculation, but it is based on reasonably solid logic.
Hope it helps.

Many accounts were recently deactivated if they had not logged in for a considerable
length of time (several years). In order to preserve the integrity of the catalog
and database in general, the accounts were not deleted, but were fully anonymized
instead.

If people choose to reactivate their account, their old username will reappear
on their account just as they were originally. All they need to do is follow
the instructions on the email they were sent. We may change the BLUSER_######
format in the near future to be less conspicuous on catalog credit pages. Probably
something lowercase, not so predictable, and shorter.

Many historic accounts, such as major contributors or Dan's own personal
account were intentionally untouched by the process.
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In Catalog, spattersonlego writes:
  Who is willing to start a search site to replace goatleg?
I'm sure people would be willing to pay a small fee to use it. I would.

I have my own copy of the mini-figure-outer site that I always found to be far
superior. Could not get used to a frame above (goatleg) unless I rotated my
monitor to portrait mode. I'm a tab person.

Nice part is with your own copy you can move things like the colors yellow and
light flesh to the top of the list under head colors. I also ripped out the
color headings and tweaked it to make it as fast as possible (for me anyway).
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In Catalog, Andrsv writes:
  I've hosted it here temporary:
https://avbricks.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/web/index.html
I just ordered a proper domain, so it'll move soon.

You are da REAL MVP.
Bricklink without goatleg. what a sad day
 Author: markmamer View Messages Posted By markmamer
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In Suggestions, Jpbsl writes:
  In Suggestions, markmamer writes:
  Is there a way to put my own inventory up on the site under my own private warehouse?
I do not want to be a seller yet but I would like to keep my inventory on the
site.

did you figure this out? I'm in the same process.

i think the best suggestion was to create closed store to put my inventory in.
I going to try that.
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In Catalog, Lexesmom writes:
  In Catalog, spattersonlego writes:
  Who is willing to start a search site to replace goatleg?
I'm sure people would be willing to pay a small fee to use it. I would.


I sure wish someone would create something because identifying torso’s is a pain
in the ass!

See my response above
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In Catalog, spattersonlego writes:
  Who is willing to start a search site to replace goatleg?
I'm sure people would be willing to pay a small fee to use it. I would.


I sure wish someone would create something because identifying torso’s is a pain
in the ass!
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In Catalog, Andrsv writes:
  In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  In Catalog, spattersonlego writes:
  Who is willing to start a search site to replace goatleg?
I'm sure people would be willing to pay a small fee to use it. I would.

What's it worth to you?

I'd pay $5-10 for a months access. Personally.


I don't use it too often, but when I do, I need it a lot all at once. So
I'd rather not have to sign up for a whole year.

I've hosted it here temporary:
https://avbricks.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/web/index.html

I just ordered a proper domain, so it'll move soon.

I think the costs for running this will be less than €20 pr year I'll
serve it for free for you guys, enjoy


Fantastic!!!
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In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  In Catalog, spattersonlego writes:
  Who is willing to start a search site to replace goatleg?
I'm sure people would be willing to pay a small fee to use it. I would.

What's it worth to you?

I'd pay $5-10 for a months access. Personally.


I don't use it too often, but when I do, I need it a lot all at once. So
I'd rather not have to sign up for a whole year.

I've hosted it here temporary:
https://avbricks.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/web/index.html

I just ordered a proper domain, so it'll move soon.

I think the costs for running this will be less than €20 pr year I'll
serve it for free for you guys, enjoy
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In Inventories Requests, Redrobboe writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6524  Name: Blizzard Blazer
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6524-1 (Inv) Blizzard Blazer
42 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1988
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Traffic

* Delete 1 Part 3705 Black Technic, Axle 4
* Add 2 Part 3749 Black Technic, Axle Pin without Friction Ridges Lengthwise

Comments from Submitter:
change gives a more stable axle arrangement for rear wheels, Not clear on instructions as to what item to use for an axle.

What source are you using to request these changes?

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