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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 13, 2020 12:08
 Subject: Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2.
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 Topic: Catalog
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I have a masterful command of the English language (no Polish sadly) and I have
no idea how to describe those blue ones where someone who was looking for them
would find them.

For those particular parts, a difference that could be identified in the titles
would be:

Triangle Facing Model Left
Triangle Facing Model Right

For the two Technic liftarms the actual warnings displayed on the stickers could
be described in the title.

For the modified tiles, the images are too small to even see clearly. So the
difference between those particular parts would need to be determined by looking
at the sticker sheets.

But the point is that we should all try to move away from this pattern 1/pattern
2 practice whenever possible. And I'm sure that if someone looks back through
stuff I've added that I've done it, too.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jan 13, 2020 11:56
 Subject: Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.

They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.

Sorry, Marek, I wasn't picking on you or anyone else and I hope I didn't
make it appear that way. I understand language barriers.

The problem with pattern 1/pattern 2 parts is that it's difficult to even
locate them by searching. One has to scan through entire parts categories to
even find pattern 1/pattern 2 titles.

Perhaps this could be made into a community project of locating and retitling
these kinds of parts with slightly more descriptive titles.

I have a masterful command of the English language (no Polish sadly) and I have
no idea how to describe those blue ones where someone who was looking for them
would find them.
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Jan 13, 2020 11:50
 Subject: Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2.
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  
 
Part No: 3004pb192  Name: Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Right Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
* 
3004pb192 Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Right Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
Parts: Brick, Decorated
 
Part No: 3004pb193  Name: Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Left Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
* 
3004pb193 Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Left Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
Parts: Brick, Decorated

These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.

They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.

Is it actually the same sticker upside-down?

Yes exactly as it is visible on sticker sheet
 
Part No: 70839stk01  Name: Sticker Sheet for Set 70839 - (58396/6270356)
* 
70839stk01 Sticker Sheet for Set 70839 - (58396/6270356)
Parts: Sticker Sheet
but instruction shows them to be applied like this so they need to be two parts.
https://www.lego.com/biassets/bi/6282600.pdf
page 122
 
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 13, 2020 11:49
 Subject: Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2.
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.

They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.

Sorry, Marek, I wasn't picking on you or anyone else and I hope I didn't
make it appear that way. I understand language barriers.

The problem with pattern 1/pattern 2 parts is that it's difficult to even
locate them by searching. One has to scan through entire parts categories to
even find pattern 1/pattern 2 titles.

Perhaps this could be made into a community project of locating and retitling
these kinds of parts with slightly more descriptive titles.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jan 13, 2020 11:45
 Subject: Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2.
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  
 
Part No: 3004pb192  Name: Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Right Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
* 
3004pb192 Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Right Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
Parts: Brick, Decorated
 
Part No: 3004pb193  Name: Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Left Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
* 
3004pb193 Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Left Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
Parts: Brick, Decorated

These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.

They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.

Is it actually the same sticker upside-down?
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Jan 13, 2020 11:42
 Subject: Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  
 
Part No: 3004pb192  Name: Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Right Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
* 
3004pb192 Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Right Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
Parts: Brick, Decorated
 
Part No: 3004pb193  Name: Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Left Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
* 
3004pb193 Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Left Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
Parts: Brick, Decorated

These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.

They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 13, 2020 11:34
 Subject: Pattern 1. Pattern 2.
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There seems to be an increasing trend of identifying patterned parts by simply
calling them Pattern 1 and Pattern 2. Here are three random examples of recent
parts, but I could go on for a while.

 
Part No: 60483pb003  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 2 - Axle Hole with Warning Sign 1 Pattern (Sticker) - Set 42054
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60483pb003 Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 2 - Axle Hole with Warning Sign 1 Pattern (Sticker) - Set 42054
Parts: Technic, Liftarm, Decorated
 
Part No: 60483pb004  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 2 - Axle Hole with Warning Sign 2 Pattern (Sticker) - Set 42054
* 
60483pb004 Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 2 - Axle Hole with Warning Sign 2 Pattern (Sticker) - Set 42054
Parts: Technic, Liftarm, Decorated

 
Part No: 3004pb192  Name: Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Right Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
* 
3004pb192 Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Right Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
Parts: Brick, Decorated
 
Part No: 3004pb193  Name: Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Left Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
* 
3004pb193 Brick 1 x 2 with Black, Green, and Lime Splotches and Triangle Pointing Left Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70839
Parts: Brick, Decorated

 
Part No: 11203pb048  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 Inverted with Black and White Machine Pattern 1 (Sticker) - Set 10266
* 
11203pb048 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 Inverted with Black and White Machine Pattern 1 (Sticker) - Set 10266
Parts: Tile, Modified, Decorated
 
Part No: 11203pb049  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 Inverted with Black and White Machine Pattern 2 (Sticker) - Set 10266
* 
11203pb049 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 Inverted with Black and White Machine Pattern 2 (Sticker) - Set 10266
Parts: Tile, Modified, Decorated

I would caution against this practice of non-descriptively titling items. In
fact, I was hoping the site would move away from things like this, not more toward.

Although I suppose we could greatly simplify all titles by simply going the Mini
Upper Part "No. 1470"
route that TLG uses.
 Author: go4bob View Messages Posted By go4bob
 Posted: Jan 13, 2020 06:23
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 3186-1
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 Topic: Inventories Requests (Entry)
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 3186  Name: Emma's  Horse Trailer
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3186-1 (Inv) Emma's Horse Trailer
214 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2012
Sets: Friends

* Add 1 Part 3024 Trans-Red Plate 1 x 1 (Extra)
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jan 12, 2020 23:29
 Subject: Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness
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In Inventories, popsicle writes:
  It would've been nice if you and axaday had joined in. Talk about a dream
team of catalog people!

This thread confused me and I couldn't think of any way that I could contribute.
I could do inventories the way 62 wants if those were the rules. But like Randy
said, they just aren't the rules. I try to do all of my catalog work in
the way I believe it will be quickly and easily approved.

I understand the place 62 is in. I usually read what he has to say about things.
When I disagree with the admins, I usually do it in private messages. Sometimes
they explain to me what I didn't understand and other times they just explain
that they disagree with me and they get to decide. They sacrifice a lot of time
for the authority they have and that's just the way it is.
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Jan 12, 2020 22:44
 Subject: Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, popsicle writes:
  In Inventories, foxweasle writes:
  I thought I would post this Discussion to bring to the members awareness of a
possible misinterpretation of the Inventory list of Set 75248 Star Wars Resistance
A-Wing Starfighter. The inventory is listed correct as I see it. I just opened
a sealed complete set and confirmed the Inventory. The only Item in Question
is Part 15303 Trans-Red Bar 8L with round End (Spring Shooter Dart). In the Instructions
it does show 3 Items are used but only 2 are actually used in the set. At first
I would think the 3rd piece would be considered an extra part, but since all
three are listed in step 101 the last Instruction step. The Inventory should
remain unchanged.

Some of the best reads on the subject of BL’s catalog, are between the members
in this thread:

StormChaser
62Bricks
Hygrotus
jennnifer

When they come together in debate, it’s gold!

TLG, if you’re reading this, covet these individual’s collective knowledge and
passion for the site. Two of which have abdicated their admin positions in said
passion.

I would join the discussion, but I have laid out my thoughts, ideas, opinions,
and general method of approach to our catalog and inventory strategies many times
to Don, and he continues to belittle the admins (who aren't paid and give
exceptionally of ourselves to this site) and rant that his opinion is the only
one that matters. Those are truly the personality hallmarks of trying to affect
change! I understand what he wants, but the admins just settled on a different
means to getting there and I don't believe any of us are going to apologize
for our joint decisions. The decisions require site development, and I am more
hopeful than ever that we can get there once LEGO looks to start developing the
site. Until then, he can rant until he is blue in the face or starts his own
marketplace.

Cheers,
Randy

Like I said, passion

Passion is a feeling of intense enthusiasm towards or compelling desire for
someone or something. Passion can range from eager interest in or admiration
for an idea, proposal, or cause; to enthusiastic enjoyment of an interest or
activity...


and frankly it's what make the discussion between you all worth reading.
It would've been nice if you and axaday had joined in. Talk about a dream
team of catalog people!

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