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 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Jan 12, 2020 13:31
 Subject: Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness
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 Topic: Inventories
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In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
  Bricklink set inventories are not based on the building instructions at all.

The printed parts list is the only thing that matters. It is a widespread misunderstanding
that the regular section of the inventory lists the parts needed to complete
the set according to the instructions.

Wow, this is a pretty bold incorrect assertion. I was an inventory admin for
three years. The building instructions are the ultimate source for accurate inventories.
Not every set follows every rule, but that is where everything starts.

Jen
 Author: 62Bricks View Messages Posted By 62Bricks
 Posted: Jan 12, 2020 13:16
 Subject: Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness
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In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
  The parts list determines whether a part is extra or not, and not the building instructions.

In this recent set, yes:
 
Set No: 40433  Name: 1989 Batmobile - Limited Edition
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40433-1 (Inv) 1989 Batmobile - Limited Edition
366 Parts, 2019
Sets: Super Heroes: Tim Burton's Batman

In this recent set, no:
 
Set No: 41381  Name: Rescue Mission Boat
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41381-1 (Inv) Rescue Mission Boat
877 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2019
Sets: Friends

So there is an inconsistent approach.

Nevertheless, we need the ability to display and use inventories in different
ways based on the needs of the person viewing that inventory. You don't
think so, because you want inventories to be structured in the specific way that
you feel is best for users of the site.

Why not just agree with me that inventories can do more than the system currently
allows and join me in the push for customizable inventories?

This feels like a false choice. Of course we would all like to see greater convenience
and functionality, but that does not mean we should allow information and functionality
to be removed now in the hope that someday we'll have a system
that lets us put it back. How about we use the existing functionality,
which will support all the information people want, including the full box contents
as they were packaged as well as the parts that form a "complete" set, and then
when (if) those extra features come along we can talk about how to use them?

Because we have put the cart firmly before the horse, here. There are thousands
of complete set listings right now that do not include all the parts Bricklink
says they should - some of them quite expensive parts. This is not due to any
error or wrongdoing by the sellers. It is purely the result of inventory changes
that have been made to accord with bad policies. I don't hear anybody really
defending that. I'm not surprised, as it seems indefensible.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 12, 2020 12:57
 Subject: Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness
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In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
  The parts list determines whether a part is extra or not, and not the building instructions.

In this recent set, yes:
 
Set No: 40433  Name: 1989 Batmobile - Limited Edition
* 
40433-1 (Inv) 1989 Batmobile - Limited Edition
366 Parts, 2019
Sets: Super Heroes: Tim Burton's Batman

In this recent set, no:
 
Set No: 41381  Name: Rescue Mission Boat
* 
41381-1 (Inv) Rescue Mission Boat
877 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2019
Sets: Friends

So there is an inconsistent approach.

Nevertheless, we need the ability to display and use inventories in different
ways based on the needs of the person viewing that inventory. You don't
think so, because you want inventories to be structured in the specific way that
you feel is best for users of the site.

Why not just agree with me that inventories can do more than the system currently
allows and join me in the push for customizable inventories?
 Author: 62Bricks View Messages Posted By 62Bricks
 Posted: Jan 12, 2020 12:10
 Subject: Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness
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In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
  Nobody disputes that if three darts came in the
box, three darts should appear somewhere on the inventory page for the set. However
as is demonstrated by the existence of this thread, there are many people who
have come to understand that the regular section represents only the parts included
in the building instructions. For purposes of classifying parts within the inventory,

For the record about this set. Instruction clearly shows three darts being used
in build process (step 101, so this is not an extra part)

Yes, the OP is correct, but for the wrong reason. The inventory would still be
"correct" even if the instructions only showed the two darts that can be held
by the model, because there are three darts in the parts list. The parts list
determines whether a part is extra or not, and not the building instructions.
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Jan 12, 2020 11:51
 Subject: Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness
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In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
  Nobody disputes that if three darts came in the
box, three darts should appear somewhere on the inventory page for the set. However
as is demonstrated by the existence of this thread, there are many people who
have come to understand that the regular section represents only the parts included
in the building instructions. For purposes of classifying parts within the inventory,

For the record about this set. Instruction clearly shows three darts being used
in build process (step 101, so this is not an extra part)
 


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