| Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Teup  | | Posted: | Sep 12, 2019 20:15 | | Subject: | Re: Change time zone | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, hpoort writes:
| | In Suggestions, HallBricks writes:
| | It would be great if I could change the time zone on BrickLink. Maybe not the
most necessary feature, but it feels like it wouldn't be that difficult of
a thing to implement.
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Have you ever thought about it's complexity?
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Very simple: everything is stored in UTC and presented in a local/chosen TZ.
The UTC → local TZ conversion is done with a standard, well tested library.
There. The complexity is outsourced.
Besides, it’s just about presentation. Official times are those in the database,
on the server, in UTC.
I stopped watching after he began talking about DST (“autumn in England”).
And that’s absurd. He talks about a programmer who:
1. doesn’t know what TZs are,
2. adds cases one by one instead of, finally, learning what’s it about,
3. and thus reinvents the wheel, spoke by spoke.
Yes, timezones are complex (and involve politics, therefore also totally insane)
and that’s why you don’t cobble up something in your garage.
Yes, timezones change frequently (remember, politics), but you just update the
TZ data the library uses.
One could do the same kind of video about 3D geometry or any other complex or
complicated but already well known feature.
Just showing a given UTC time in a chosen TZ should be easy peasy.
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I thought it would be a sarcastic video. As you say, there's really no need
to reinvent the wheel, this has been done so many times over there must be plenty
of resources you can use very easily.
BrickOwl has timezones, other market platforms have timezones, forums have timezones,
social media have timezones.. and it all works without issues. Bricklink is really
the odd one out.
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| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Sep 12, 2019 12:52 | | Subject: | Re: Change NPB Timeline | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mscheaf writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | In Suggestions, MidwestBrick writes:
| | I had enough of these in the last few weeks that waiting 2 full weeks is painful
to complete them.
I don't mind the 1 week to pay before it is started. But another full 7 days
to complete the NPB is not necessary.
I would propose 3 additional days and that is it. Let us get our stock back
in our stores to sell to someone else instead of being held at our will for 14
full days when 10 is plenty enough.
I can't be the only one that feels this way and 14 days might have worked
10-15 years ago when access to Smart-Phones wasn't as widespread, but these
days, you can't go far without having the ability to respond. Thanks
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I don't know about other countries but over here 14 days is a widely accepted
standard term for invoices to be paid. Sometimes it's longer, but it's
never less than 14 days. I wouldn't find it professional if a company gave
me an invoice that had to be paid in less than 14 days.
Also, inventory moves slowly and parts typically take over a year to sell. I
don't see how a few extra days for a fraction of the inventory are so important.
Bricklink downtime should be a way bigger concern.
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In USA bills due upon receipt are quite common, especially for medical bills.
Also, I often get bills in the mail for various things that are due in less than
2 weeks. Again, if you can't afford it, don't buy it. This isn't
water or medicine or food. It's a freaking luxury item toy.
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Maybe it's a cultural difference. If the code of conduct is different in
the US, then I do understand you'd expect Bricklink to match with that.
As for freaking luxury toys, today I got an invoice from Lego.com in the mail
that is due in 18 days. That's pretty usual to me. I wouldn't want to
seem less professional than Lego.com. An invoice with a number below 14 days
would feel pushy to me based on what I am used to.
Anyway I do question how big a deal it is. Customer service costs money. And
of all aspects of customer service, patience is pretty much the cheapest one.
The average value of a Bricklink order is approximately $20. Let's say you
are always having one NPB going on constantly all throughout your Bricklink career.
I would say: Spend $10 (part selling value: $20) one time on a set, and call
it the NPB buffer. That compensates the $20 worth of inventory that is constantly
being blocked by NPBs. Maybe I'm too clinical and calculating but as far
as I can see that solves the problem 
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| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Sep 12, 2019 11:26 | | Subject: | Re: Change NPB Timeline | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, manganschlamm writes:
| | In Suggestions, MidwestBrick writes:
| | I had enough of these in the last few weeks that waiting 2 full weeks is painful
to complete them.
I don't mind the 1 week to pay before it is started. But another full 7 days
to complete the NPB is not necessary.
I would propose 3 additional days and that is it. Let us get our stock back
in our stores to sell to someone else instead of being held at our will for 14
full days when 10 is plenty enough.
I can't be the only one that feels this way and 14 days might have worked
10-15 years ago when access to Smart-Phones wasn't as widespread, but these
days, you can't go far without having the ability to respond. Thanks
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OK then in return I propose that we buyers can initiate and complete NRS and
NSS after proportionally shorter time. If sellers want to give us buyers less
time to make the payment, then they should also have less time to issue invoices
and ship. Something for something. As a side note, I would like to mention that
in Europe many payments are still made by conventional bank transfer, which may
take few days to complete (and will only be processed on business days).
Final comment: Sellers that want to push for high-speed payment should accept
the fact that for 99% of buyers this is a hobby whereas for a considerable fraction
of sellers it is a full- or part-time business. We buyers typically have a normal
job and need to find the time to do things related to BL.
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+1
14 days is the basic level of customer service. And if nothing is defined in
the terms, the legal term is even 30 days.
14 days is also the legal amount of time a buyer has to change their mind about
an order and return it. It wouldn't make much sense to me to on the one hand
force a buyer to pay quicker than 14 days when after that they still have a couple
of days they can get their money back.
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| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Sep 12, 2019 11:21 | | Subject: | Re: Change NPB Timeline | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, MidwestBrick writes:
| | I had enough of these in the last few weeks that waiting 2 full weeks is painful
to complete them.
I don't mind the 1 week to pay before it is started. But another full 7 days
to complete the NPB is not necessary.
I would propose 3 additional days and that is it. Let us get our stock back
in our stores to sell to someone else instead of being held at our will for 14
full days when 10 is plenty enough.
I can't be the only one that feels this way and 14 days might have worked
10-15 years ago when access to Smart-Phones wasn't as widespread, but these
days, you can't go far without having the ability to respond. Thanks
|
I don't know about other countries but over here 14 days is a widely accepted
standard term for invoices to be paid. Sometimes it's longer, but it's
never less than 14 days. I wouldn't find it professional if a company gave
me an invoice that had to be paid in less than 14 days.
Also, inventory moves slowly and parts typically take over a year to sell. I
don't see how a few extra days for a fraction of the inventory are so important.
Bricklink downtime should be a way bigger concern.
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| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Sep 12, 2019 11:16 | | Subject: | Re: Change time zone | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, HallBricks writes:
| | It would be great if I could change the time zone on BrickLink. Maybe not the
most necessary feature, but it feels like it wouldn't be that difficult of
a thing to implement.
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...and actually know when stuff happened on Bricklink? Like knowing when messages
between buyers and sellers were sent, or when an order status changed?! No
way, don't mess with cultural heritage! The internet's last forum without
timezones. It's like living in history! (also because, well, the time stamps
always indicate an earlier time than it is here) 
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