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 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 15, 2019 18:11
 Subject: Re: Interesting
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 Topic: Colors
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In Colors, randyf writes:
  I just opened my first sealed set ever where every part that is supposed to be
white looks almost exactly like a perfect match for tan or slightly lighter.
It is quite weird to be expecting white parts and seeing everything look tan.
You would never know these parts were ever white by looking at them since the
color is even on all surfaces of every part. Because the set was sealed, it could
not be UV damage due to sunlight as so many sites claim, so some other chemical
process occurs. There must be some sort of breakdown of some additive in the
ABS due to storage conditions of the set (maybe higher temperatures). I don't
know what it is, but I am less than happy with my purchase now.

You read the wrong sites

UVs don’t tan the plastic. UVs accelerate or make possible some chemical reactions
in the plastic.
Other things may accelerate the reactions. And the reactions also occur all
by themselves.

Some additives do react more easily or mode badly than others. That’s what happened
with the old bricks / old ABS.

And yes, UVs can also help “cure” the problem because it helps oxydation reactions,
which are also greatly helped by the presence of free oxygen, like when the parts
are soaking in peroxyde.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 13, 2019 14:12
 Subject: Re: Does part 6057 (Short Rigging) need a variant
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In Catalog, TorontoLego writes:
  I don't know.

Do you have black ones and brown ones? Can you check to see if this holds true
for at least all the black ones?

Nope. I have none. Dark Ages.

If the sets that use them are using them differently, — that is, if they aren’t
substitutable —, the variant would really be necessary. It wouldn’t be the first
time TLG thought better about making a part “in System,” like
 
Part No: 4081  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Light Attachment (Undetermined Type)
* 
4081 Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Light Attachment (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Plate, Modified
Marked for Deletion

or
 
Part No: 4623  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Bar Arm Up (Undetermined Type)
* 
4623 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Bar Arm Up (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Plate, Modified

I wanted to look at the building instructions to look for a mathematical necessity
for the change, but there are some 14 sets that use them, so knowing from which
sets they came from would have narrowed the search.


On the other hand, another possibility simply is that some are not LEGO
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 13, 2019 07:26
 Subject: Re: Does part 6057 (Short Rigging) need a variant
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Part No: 6057  Name: Boat, Mast Rigging Short 16 x 5
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6057 Boat, Mast Rigging Short 16 x 5
Parts: Boat

In Catalog, TorontoLego writes:
  The four black ones and one brown one are about a plates width shorter. I can't
be the first one to notice this!

Do you know which sets they come from?

It would be interesting to check if something changed in their uses, mathematically
speaking.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 9, 2019 11:00
 Subject: Re: New Rigid Hoses flex
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 Topic: Suggestions
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In Suggestions, frankool86 writes:
  Hi Studio Devs,
thanks for adding rigid hose flex feature
i am actually trying that new feature and cant seem to make it work on that type
of projet (attached picture)
looks like the tip of the hose wont follow camera orientation. it is always facing
my mouse cursor in all camera modes/orientation. That said, i just cant plug
the tip of the hose in the proper way as you can see on the picture. Maybe i
need tips on that to make it work.
Keep doing a great job on studio

First, the dedicated forum for Studio is http://forum.bricklink.com/ (which,
despite the generic name, isn’t this one).

Then, you can simply rotate the hose’s head with the arrow keys (shift for 45°
increments).
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 8, 2019 15:27
 Subject: Re: Set 71040 Disney castle
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In Catalog, paolocolombo writes:
  Goodmorning everyone!
Set 71040: are there 2 versions? I noticed that the front box "type 1" under
the word "16+" has:
- the number of pieces
- the word "building toy"
- has 7 minifig.
The front box type 2 does NOT have the number of pieces and does not have the
word "building toy"; has 5 minifig.
Are there any fakes?
Also on the small side where there are minifigs in the type 2 box there are no
small writings.
Thanks as always for the info.

 
Set No: 71040  Name: Disney Castle
* 
71040-1 (Inv) Disney Castle
4043 Parts, 7 Minifigures, 2016
Sets: Disney
 
Original Box No: 71040  Name: Disney Castle
* 
71040-1 Disney Castle
Original Boxes: Disney

Maybe just a US / EU difference on the boxes: number of parts is an obligation
in the USA, it’s rarely on EU boxes.

For the minifigures, 5 are Disney characters, 2 are statues. They just decided
the statues weren’t real minifigures after all.

There might be other differences in the production runs: newer variants, different
extra parts….

At least, for now, no one has come and said the inventory was wrong
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 8, 2019 06:38
 Subject: Re: Mystery part
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  I have pending approval something like this
[p=Unknown]

Did anybody see something like this? Anybody knows anything about it?

Some kind of button?
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 7, 2019 11:10
 Subject: Re: Automatic store selection in Buy mocs
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 Topic: Suggestions
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In Suggestions, titips writes:
  Hi,
I hope this is the right place to post this.
I think it would be a good thing to be able to set the maximum number of stores
used to fulfill a wanted list search of matching stores in order to have a good
compromise between items costs and shipping costs.
Since shipping costs can't be taken in count during stores automatic selection,
you could add a parameter "max N° of stores" so that we can compair a result
with 10 stores and very low pieces costs and 2 stores with more high pieces costs.
Sometime shipping costs from many stores override high pieces costs from 1 or
2 stores.
hope is clear enough

First, it has been said that the algorithm has a (mysterious) way to include
shipping costs in its calculations.

Then, at a time there were up to three options for Auto-Select:
1. minimize price,
2. minimize number of stores,
3. “best” price (we never could get an answer about what “best” meant).

And they were removed because they didn’t work as advertized and there were “funny”
results (“min stores” cheaper than “min price” or “min price” with fewer stores
than “min stores” and such).

IOW, I doubt BL could implement your suggestion.


Moreover, it has been said several times that development on this website is,
at best, frozen.
So, if I were you, I wouldn’t hold my breath for that suggestion to be even considered.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 5, 2019 12:54
 Subject: Re: nb of 45677 red pieces in 4883 creator set
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 Topic: Inventories
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In Inventories, stephannie writes:
  hello !
in the 4883

 
Set No: 4883  Name: Gear Grinders
* 
4883-1 (Inv) Gear Grinders
273 Parts, 2005
Sets: Designer Sets: Traffic

   "gear grinders" creator set, 4 red pieces ref 45677 are needed on
the paper instruction (see my photo). And 5 are needed on the Bricklink Inventory.
As it is a creator, with different building options, the exact needed number
is not easy to know. All i know is that 4 of these red pieces are enough to build
each of the suggested buiding options in the instruction. But separately, one
after the other. I don't know if TLG designed this set as being able to build
several "gear grinders" at the same time ? ... Another member owns this set ?
Good sunday to all of you !!

Brickset (= more or less LEGO) agrees with BrickLink to reach 273 pieces in total,
so, unless another part is wrong, it looks correct.

Note that the 5th part was changed to extra on February, 16th 2012, and changed
back to regular on the 19th.
Unfortunately, we can’t see the messages accompanying the changes anymore

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=4883-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 4, 2019 19:00
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 157-1
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In Inventories Requests, taxan writes:
  […]
If 3229 = 3229a and 3230 = 3230a.
Then they should merge into 3229 and 3230.
There are no reason to leave them with the "a" version.
If we in the future discovery a different version of the Blue Curved Rail, then
we have a reason to have the "a" and a "b" version again.

‘b’ doesn’t exist in Blue but it exists in Light Gray.
That’s the reason why ‘a’ and ‘b’ versions exist.

‘not-a-not-b’ should have been ‘u’ndetermined, and then deleted.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 3, 2019 16:40
 Subject: Re: Change NPB Timeline
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In Suggestions, tonnic writes:
  […]
If I look at your large amount of feedback you generate I almost suspect you
of having a Lego business too but on a different sellingpoint... 😅

Almost 1 order a day, I suspect them of being in love with their post(wo)man
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 2, 2019 07:20
 Subject: Re: Coral
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In Colors, Teup writes:
  […]
I'd go for salmon or something like that.

Are you talking about the colour of the fresh flesh, the cooked flesh, or the
smoked flesh? At what time of the year the salmon was killed? What did the
salmon eat? Were there artificial colorants added? Or are you talking about
the colour of its scales? And are they the scales on the belly, the head, the
tail? And which of the 8 species of fish that we name “salmon”?

 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 1, 2019 13:59
 Subject: Re: Shipping adress Belgium
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In Suggestions, reci writes:
  Thank you for your answer
I tried but the system wont let me save my adress with the last field un-answered...

We had the same problem with French addresses (compounded with the use of wrong
names for the régions ). It only took 2 years of nagging to be fixed.

In the mean time, add a remark/note at checkout and hope the seller will read
and heed it.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 27, 2019 19:30
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 41347-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 41347  Name: Heartlake City Resort
* 
41347-1 (Inv) Heartlake City Resort
998 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2018
Sets: Friends

* Delete 1 Part 20482 Trans-Clear Tile, Round 1 x 1 with Bar and Pin Holder (Extra)
* Add 2 Part 20482 Trans-Clear Tile, Round 1 x 1 with Bar and Pin Holder (Extra)
* Delete 2 Part 4073 Trans-Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side (Extra)
* Add 4 Part 4073 Trans-Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side (Extra)

Comments from Submitter:
Sealed box.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 27, 2019 15:55
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 75199-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 75199  Name: General Grievous' Combat Speeder
* 
75199-1 (Inv) General Grievous' Combat Speeder
146 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2018
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars The Clone Wars

* Delete 1 Part 64567 Metallic Silver Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight (Extra)
* Add 2 Part 64567 Metallic Silver Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight (Extra)

Comments from Submitter:
Hmm, change still doesn’t work?

Two new sealed boxes. 1 regular + 1 extra in bag 1 with Mace Windu, 4 regular + 1 extra in bag 2 for G. Grievous.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 22, 2019 07:51
 Subject: Re: Brand filter not working
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  The brand filter is not working correctly. I have LEGO only turned on, yet I
am shown adverts for non-LEGO items during my searches. Is it possible to turn
off non-LEGO products?

Oh, that’s a good one
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 17, 2019 08:59
 Subject: Re: Lengths in “L” and 18654
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  […]
Yeah, so why call this a pin 1/2 ... […]

Because there’s no constistence to the catalogue?

  Personally, I'd go with a naming convention of the form:

 
Part No: 32054  Name: Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges and Stop Bush
* 
32054 Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges and Stop Bush
Parts: Technic, Pin

Pin 2L (with friction ridges) and Stop Bush 1L.

So a normal pin would be a pin 2L, a half pin would be a pin 1L, and so on. Anything
with four half pins would be "with 4 pins 1L" and so on.

Okay… provided we agree on what a “L” is and out-of-system dimensions like “2/3
L” are verified before being accepted in the catalogue
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 17, 2019 08:32
 Subject: Re: Lengths in “L” and 18654
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  […]
My point was that if you categorize it as a bushing, you don't need to worry
about the length of it at all. You don't see the axle bushing above listed
as a "Technic Bush 1L". It is just "Technic Bush". So change that one to "Technic
Axle Bush" and
 
Part No: 18654  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 1 (Spacer)
* 
18654 Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 1 (Spacer)
Parts: Technic, Liftarm
to "Technic Pin Bush" and problem solved. No need to worry about the length at
all. Like I said, it doesn't and can't connect pins or axles at all,
so it is definitely *not* a "Technic, Pin Connector". And that's a fact.


Simple solution indeed.
No wonder you’re, er, should be, paid the big bucks
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 17, 2019 08:30
 Subject: Re: Lengths in “L” and 18654
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  
  No. A "pin" is the standard Technic pin. Basically, half of
 
Part No: 2780  Name: Technic, Pin with Short Friction Ridges
* 
2780 Technic, Pin with Short Friction Ridges
Parts: Technic, Pin

Why half of it? And if it was half of it, shouldn't that one be named a "double
pin". […]

But
 
Part No: 6232  Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Pin and Axle Hole
* 
6232 Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Pin and Axle Hole
Parts: Brick, Modified
has only one pin, or is the other half considered hidden inside the brick?

And
 
Part No: 15100  Name: Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges and Pin Hole
* 
15100 Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges and Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Pin
 
Part No: 6628  Name: Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges and Tow Ball (Undetermined Type)
* 
6628 Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges and Tow Ball (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Technic, Pin
and the like are “pin”s, not “half-pin”s and there’s no room for a hidden second
half.

 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 17, 2019 07:25
 Subject: Re: Lengths in “L” and 18654
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, dkillgore writes:

  So is a "pin" the same as a "stud"?

No. A "pin" is the standard Technic pin. Basically, half of
 
Part No: 2780  Name: Technic, Pin with Short Friction Ridges
* 
2780 Technic, Pin with Short Friction Ridges
Parts: Technic, Pin

A "stud" is the standard connection point on the top of LEGO bricks and plates.

Yes, and wes say “stud” for the distance between the centers of two studs / the
width of 1-stud-wide brick or plate.


  
  Example, part 2817 is a modified plate, 2 x 2 with pin holder
and it is possible to attach a stud of say a 1x4 in the pin holder to do a perpendicular
build. Is the cuff for attachment too shallow on the 18654 to, say, do a reversal?
Just asking or future buying and building

You can do a stud reversal with
 
Part No: 18654  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 1 (Spacer)
* 
18654 Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 1 (Spacer)
Parts: Technic, Liftarm
just like with any other thick Technic liftarm since they are the same thickness.
Part 18654 is pretty much just a thick 1L Technic liftarm.

Exactly, “BEAM 1X1” is its LEGO name.

And about puting studs in technic holes, note that a technic hole is slightly
smaller than a stud (the actual round peg), and if you attach more than one stud
to technic holes, the force needed to remove them once inserted is too strong
for a 7-year-old child. That’s why LEGO say it’s “illegal” to connect more than
one stud to technic holes.

Also, note that a technic hole is also slightly higher than a side-stud on the
modified bricks. So you shan’t mix bricks with side studs and technic bricks
with half-pins (though some official builds do).
And you shan’t have overhanging bricks on top of the technic brick. Like on
the picture below, the red plate shan’t be placed over the tan plates. (Yes,
some official builds do that too.)

And while we are talking about SNOT building, be careful with logos, they really
push the bricks that want to lay on them (second picture, if the blue brick had
studs, the red brick wouldn’t be able to attach correctly to the tan headlight
brick, and would be pushed upward by the stud).
 


 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 16, 2019 19:49
 Subject: Lengths in “L” and 18654
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I’m wondering what’s the rationale for having changed the name (and dimensions)
of
 
Part No: 18654  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 1 (Spacer)
* 
18654 Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 1 (Spacer)
Parts: Technic, Liftarm
from “1 L” to “2/3 L”.

I can’t see where it’s 0.67L.

Especially if I compare it to
 
Part No: 62462  Name: Technic, Pin Connector Round 2L with Slot (Pin Joiner Round)
* 
62462 Technic, Pin Connector Round 2L with Slot (Pin Joiner Round)
Parts: Technic, Connector
 
Part No: 6538  Name: Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged Undetermined Type)
* 
6538 Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged Undetermined Type)
Parts: Technic, Connector
and their variants, or with
 
Part No: 43857  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 2
* 
43857 Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 2
Parts: Technic, Liftarm
and other liftarms/beams, or all the connectors with “# L” in their descriptions.

In the same way, its new dimensions are 1 x 1 x 0.67. As it’s a cylinder, it
means the 0.67 is supposed to apply to its height. But its height is exactly
1 stud, which is 5/6th = 0.83 brick, not 2/3rd = 0.67, and, anyway, “L” means
stud, not brick, so 1 = 1.

Therefore, I strongly believe its name should have stayed “Technic, Pin Connector
Round 1 L” and its dimensions should be 1 x 1 x 0.83.
(Actually, its diameter is a shy less than 1 stud, so its dimensions should be
0.9something x 0.9something x 0.83 but all the liftarms have the same width and
are said to be 1 stud wide.)


Not filing a proper catalogue change request because I really would want to know
the reasoning here, not play ping-pong.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 14, 2019 12:35
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 70620-1
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In Inventories Requests, 1977_mauro writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 70620  Name: NINJAGO City
* 
70620-1 (Inv) NINJAGO City
4777 Parts, 19 Minifigures, 2017
Sets: The LEGO NINJAGO Movie

* Add 1 Part 61184 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin 1/2 with 2L Bar Extension (Flick Missile) (Extra)

Comments from Submitter:
I assume, someone has inventorized 4 x 87994 additional light bluish bars (1 to much by mistake) instead of adding one additional light bluish flick missile. Both are looking similar to each other.
(I think that the 4 bars should be reduced to 3 as well)

It’s not a mistake, I also got 9 (5+4) 87994 and 8 (8+0) 61184.
Extras are just that, extras, you are not assured to get them, and they can change
with production runs.

So, to be clear, your extra 61184 can be added but the 87994 you didn’t get should
stay.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 13, 2019 12:12
 Subject: Re: Grays & Browns
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In Colors, uticabrix writes:
  I am having trouble with brown vs Reddish brown, and also light grey vs light
bluesish gray. Does anyone have any suggestions how to identify which is what?
Are these current colors with Lego?

There was a “Great Colour Shift” around 2004.
The main colours that were replaced were Light and Dark Grays, and Brown, but
the other colours were also slightly modified.

LBG, DBG, and Reddish Brown are the current colours since then.

As for the difference, you need to look at your parts in daylight or with a daylight
tinted lightbulb. The old greys are yellowish/kaki (hence the newer ones looking
bluish in comparison whereas they are actually nearer “true” grey).

The best way is to keep at hand parts of which you are certain of the colours.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 9, 2019 19:26
 Subject: Re: inconsistencies
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In Catalog, dkillgore writes:
  […]
  Against.

I don’t know why “jumper” was chosen. The similarity with electrical jumpers
(little wires that “jump” over the main circuits, or little thingies to connect
two plots) is tenuous: yes it’s a connector but everything connects in LEGO.
But I believe “jumper” can be taken to mean that the connection “jumps” half
a stud.
Anyway, “jumper” is well engraved as meaning “offset stud” which the missing-studs
plates and having-studs tiles don’t have.

Sylvain, your previous thread-joint reply was appreciated! A Programmer-based
deficiency for sure...

So, truly, what we all need to consider is this:
Is BrickLink, as the premier site for those who have, maybe for the first time,
visited Lego.com to complete sets or begin their life-long passion as a creator
of MOC, or to find long sought after sets from days they remember, to base our
catalogue on Lego.com nomenclature and numbering system to be:

"Buyer Focused" so that they can jump-start their search based on item classifications
and numbers they found off of a set they own or want to recreate...Or, maybe,
just maybe, even more Intuitive! Now that would be something.

Or, wanting to determine the number of categories and number/images to make it
easy to store and access for those selling to pick from to be:
"Seller Focused"

My guess is that there are a lot more first-time potential buyers registering
on here and trying to make sense of what we are doing than long-term hobbyists.

I am always aware of what we may be losing in customer base. Just have a heart
for the ones that you never hear from on the Forum who just can't make sense
of it all...

Indeed. But what I’m against, and I wasn’t clear, is the use of the term “jumper”
for a tile with studs + plate without studs category.
For me, “jumper” is specific to 3794 (and its variants) and then to 87580 and
then to 34103. That’s only 3 (or 5) parts.
All tiles and plates could well be in a unique category (like they mostly are
in LDraw or LDD) but I don’t want it called “jumper”

The problem verily lies within the strict category system, the lack of a parallel
tag system or at least the possibility for a part to appear in more than one
category.

With such a system, either you have a system that plans for anything and everything,
and you end up with the Dewey Decimal Classification for books, that no one understands
but specialists, or you have a system that needs to change with new elements
or better knowledge on the elements, like Linné’s taxonomy of living beings,
and, well, that no one understands but specialists either
Either way, there’s still a need for a simple way, both for the hoi polloi and
the elite actually, to find a part, or a group of similar parts (whatever “similar”
might mean), in a few clicks.

In a library, the Dewey DC (or another similar system) is used for numbering
the books and the shelves but a patron just needs to talk to a librarian or use
a search tool to find the book they want, they don’t need to know the DDC. And
if a patron browses an alley, they will see similar books, but they won’t see,
for instance, all the books written by the same author if these fall under different
domains.
In a virtual system, like BL, the “patron” can be presented with an “alley” containing
all the plates, or all the parts with pins, or all the 2x2 parts….

In short, what I’m trying to say is you can twist a category system in all the
ways you want, you will still need knowledge to use it, it will still be for
the specialists. To allow newbies to use it, you need a librarian, and this
website should be one.
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
   In other words there is a mess which will be hard to clarify

Keep it simple. A tile does not have studs. So if it has studs, then it is a
plate.

That's how I see things, also, but we will have to hold off on this debate
for a bit until Marek and I can get our plates cleared off to focus on catalog
projects again.[…]

Well done
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In Catalog, dkillgore writes:
  […]
Just going to put this out there and wait for the bashing,
Why not put them in both categories?

The database won’t allow it.
A part can only be in one category.
Because they are “categories,” not “tags.”

A tag system was asked for, many times.
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, RecycledBrick writes:
  I would like to see the Tile Modified ones that have studs moved to Plate Modified.
I vote yes.

I am torn. I feel like having studs is characteristic of the plate and not having
studs is characteristic of the tile. Is it possible to have a new category specifically
for tiles that have some studs and plates that have some flat space? The most
obvious (to me) name for the category would be Jumpers, but I don't really
know how that word came to be used the way Lego uses it.

Against.

I don’t know why “jumper” was chosen. The similarity with electrical jumpers
(little wires that “jump” over the main circuits, or little thingies to connect
two plots) is tenuous: yes it’s a connector but everything connects in LEGO.
But I believe “jumper” can be taken to mean that the connection “jumps” half
a stud.
Anyway, “jumper” is well engraved as meaning “offset stud” which the missing-studs
plates and having-studs tiles don’t have.
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  Either
way, if you don't have principal characteristics of what constitutes a tile
or plate (for example groove = tile), any classification is going to be inconsistent
and a matter of opinion.

I like this sentence.

Me too.
Well, except for the example, as there are plates with grooves
 
Part No: 3030a  Name: Plate 4 x 10 with Groove
* 
3030a Plate 4 x 10 with Groove
Parts: Plate
and tiles/plates variants with and without groove
 
Part No: 41740  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs with Groove
* 
41740 Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs with Groove
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 92593  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs without Groove
* 
92593 Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs without Groove
Parts: Plate, Modified

(And the jumpers too….)
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In Catalog, bje writes:
  […]
Wish
I could read Proust, Balzac, Littel and few others in original French.

Me too

(I lack the courage.)


  
  Bicorne = two horns
There are tricorne hats too (three horns).

Horny hats will be even more difficult to remember, it is not a concept I usually
associate with hats or caps.

Well, I’m sure there’s peacockery somewhere (bad, bad pun) but “corne” is a common
term in French for angled/folded —wait for it— corners!
Yes the English “corner” is about horns too
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In Catalog, bje writes:
  You want to try and remember bicorne - usually I have to search through pirates
minifigs to get that %^^$%@ name.

I’ll excuse your French as it so happens that “%^^$%@” could indeed be replaced
by “French”.

Bicorne = two horns
There are tricorne hats too (three horns).

   You might want to bookmark this page. It at
least gives the starting point names of some hat/headdress styles with images,
since I can never remember any of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat

You’ll note that on that page, keffiyeh is spelled keffiyah.
(While the wiktionary lists kaffiyah, kufiya, and kufiyah as alternative spellings,
but not keffiyah.)

Finding it through Prince of Persia minifigures might be quicker than searching
the wikipedia page then trying all the possible spellings
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In Catalog, edk writes:
  why is
 
Part No: 6576  Name: Plate, Modified 4 x 8 with Studs in Center
* 
6576 Plate, Modified 4 x 8 with Studs in Center
Parts: Plate, Modified
a plate modified when
 
Part No: 88646  Name: Tile, Modified 3 x 4 with 4 Studs in Center
* 
88646 Tile, Modified 3 x 4 with 4 Studs in Center
Parts: Tile, Modified
is a tile modified?

I’d have said it’s the number of studs (or ratio). Something like 50%+1 of studs
missing means it’s a tile, but some “tiles” have 50% of their studs and some
“plates” have less than 50% of their studs.

Plates:
 
Part No: 3794  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud, Jumper (Undetermined Type)
* 
3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud, Jumper (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Plate, Modified
(and variants)
 
Part No: 34103  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 3 with 2 Studs (Double Jumper)
* 
34103 Plate, Modified 1 x 3 with 2 Studs (Double Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 41740  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs with Groove
* 
41740 Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs with Groove
Parts: Plate, Modified
(and variant)
 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 6576  Name: Plate, Modified 4 x 8 with Studs in Center
* 
6576 Plate, Modified 4 x 8 with Studs in Center
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 4607  Name: Plate, Modified 4 x 16 with 24 studs
* 
4607 Plate, Modified 4 x 16 with 24 studs
Parts: Plate, Modified

Tiles:
 
Part No: 33909  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
* 
33909 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
Parts: Tile, Modified
 
Part No: 88646  Name: Tile, Modified 3 x 4 with 4 Studs in Center
* 
88646 Tile, Modified 3 x 4 with 4 Studs in Center
Parts: Tile, Modified
 
Part No: 6179  Name: Tile, Modified 4 x 4 with Studs on Edge
* 
6179 Tile, Modified 4 x 4 with Studs on Edge
Parts: Tile, Modified
 
Part No: 6180  Name: Tile, Modified 4 x 6 with Studs on Edges
* 
6180 Tile, Modified 4 x 6 with Studs on Edges
Parts: Tile, Modified
 
Part No: 6178  Name: Tile, Modified 6 x 12 with Studs on Edges
* 
6178 Tile, Modified 6 x 12 with Studs on Edges
Parts: Tile, Modified
 
Part No: 6205  Name: Tile, Modified 6 x 16 with Studs on Edges
* 
6205 Tile, Modified 6 x 16 with Studs on Edges
Parts: Tile, Modified
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In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Studio already include submodels.

Select parts, create submodel, that's it.

You can alway break one to update it, then recreate the submodel back again.

You can edit submodels without “breaking” them (“release” in Studio’s terms).
You can nest submodels (make a hierarchy of them), copy/paste them as if they
were just big parts, and many other things.
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In Colors, legoman_74 writes:
  Fully discolored as in uniform all around including underneath? I wondered if
pieces become discolored from other reasons other than direct sunlight. Any ideas
what causes this? From your scenario, it almost sounds like "batch" issues as
some in storage discolored while others did not.

There’s one reason for discolaration: degradation.

(And plastics degrade differently depending on their compositions, as we all
know because we all heard about the pre-2004 fire retardants that are often incriminated.)

But there are several reasons for degradation: UV, humidity, temperature, and
undoubtedly others.

The UV to which LEGO pieces are exposed generally come from the sunlight. And
as they are light, by definition they don’t hit in the shadow. So their effects,
besides being strong on some plastics, are easily noticed.

As for your parts, they may be from different batches. But their difference
in colour might not have been noticeable when they were brand new. They might
also have aged differently because of their composition. Or they may be like
other bricks in composition but still have aged differently because they weren’t
stored like others.
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  From the color search popup on the search page:

[… list of colours …]

Simpler: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogDownload.asp , and choose “Colors”.

But OP wants parts too. So, on the same page, select “Part and Color Codes”.
That’s the table of (Part+Color) = LEGO’s ElementID (the code shown in the BoM
in official instructions).
That’s not a complete list but it’s pretty long (45000+ elements I believe).
(If there’s a code, then the part obviously exists or existed.)

Or you open the “Color Guide” https://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp and
parse all the pages linked under the column “Parts”.
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  We have some great news for our catalog contributors - we have promoted Hygrotus,
one of our current Inventories Administrators to a new position, Catalog Associate:
[…]

Congrats Marek!

I hope you won’t take the opportunity to add chitinous “parts” to the catalogue
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In Suggestions, mgiglio writes:
  This is the problem exactly. Even if you have the expertise to create the XML
file, once you apply it, those parts are sitting in limbo in your physical storage
and you don't know they exist because they've been removed from your
inventory!

You have an inventory for them: They are in a Wanted List.

Phisically, either you just picked them first and want to update your inventory,
or you just updated your inventory and are going to pick them pronto.
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In Suggestions, RecycledBrick writes:
  […]
Can I take a wanted list and convert to an XML file. Will that file remove the
pieces from my store and give me the locations that they are in my store? Because
it isn't just about removing the pieces from my store inventory it is giving
me the locations that those pieces are in my store like an order placed does.
I want something that looks like below that gives the locations.

I believe you can.

Download your Wanted List.

Edit it in a dumb editor (like Notepad, not Word).

Replace all “MINQTY” with “QTY”.

If you want to add a minus sign, first replace “MINQTY»” with “QTY»-” (with a
single chevron / greater than instead of »).

That should work.
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In Suggestions, mroosa writes:
  I love using studio and its been a great help, but there are some Quality of
Life changes I would like to suggest. I didn't see a specific forum for the
program,

http://forum.bricklink.com

See the red Studio icon up there? Hover over it, there’s a direct link to it
named “Builder Forum”.


   so I hope posting here is OK.[…]
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 Posted: Mar 20, 2019 12:08
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In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Colors, Ricardo_Penguin writes:
  I have this set with the 16x32-
 
Set No: 3825  Name: Krusty Krab
* 
3825-1 (Inv) Krusty Krab
286 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2006
Sets: SpongeBob SquarePants

And I also have a 32x32 one from the Lego Store I got last year.

Putting them side-by-side, the 16x32 one is darker compared to the 32x32 one.

Interesting... That makes it seem that TLC has been making the tan 16X32s differently
than the 32X32s for every production run.

My other colors of 16X32 BP (green, blue, light gray) match the color of their
32X32 counterparts. Oh well, just another unsolved mystery in TLC's manufacturing
process.

Wasn’t Tan impacted by the Great Colour Shift?

If there were more “old Tan” 16x32 in stock, they would have been used alongside
“new Tan” 32x32.
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In Colors, crepundi writes:
  I have a question about part
 
Part No: 90392pb01  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Spartan Warrior with Dark Red Crest Pattern
* 
90392pb01 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Spartan Warrior with Dark Red Crest Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
Under known colours it is listed in black and metallic gold. I have this part,
but in fact it is not metallic gold but tan (inside) and the outside is only
printed metallic gold. Is this the regular version that shoul be listed under
metallic gold?

I’d say it’s the regular version: Metallic Gold isn’t a plastic colour, it’s
coated on another colour (generally Tan).
On the other hand, I thought the coating always cover all the part’s surface
(but I don’t have many parts in MG, and none hollow/concave like a hat/helmet).
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  […]
  Timeo hominem unius movie.

I can see a contemporary Thomas Aquinas type applying that statement to movies,
today...and they'd be dead wrong, saintly or not

There are two meanings for the statement. One of them being “I wouldn’t want
that movie to be the topic when playing Jeopardy against that guy”
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In Catalog, TheBrickGuys writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, GoudvanOud writes:
  How should I name this set?

What’s in a name? That which we call a combo set, by any other name would sell
as sweet!

Sorry, couldn't help it. Had no TV in my apartment when I was young. So it
was come home from work, run the boardwalk, shower, dress, walk to the deli for
takeout and walk across the street to Balboa theater to eat. But the hiccup was
that the theater played Zeffirelli's Romeo and Juliet for nearly a year straight
before switching movies. To be honest, I didn't mind as a romantic young
idealist. Cried like a baby

I think I still know most lines of that Shakespeare play

That's cool, I like stories about life like that.

Years ago when me and a friend rented a house, for entertainment all we had was
a VCR but no TV so we had hook it into my computer screen to use it. When it
came to movies our choices were limited to a wide variety of one movie, 'What
About Bob' starring Richard Dreyfuss and Bill Murray.

We watched that movie soooo many times that we became really good at memorizing
all the lines and we would play a game where one would say a line or just a word
or two and the other one would guess where in the movie the line or word came
from. We played that game for years after that.

The simplest things in life can create some of the best memories.

Timeo hominem unius movie.
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In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, mihau writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 10159  Name: City Airport - Full Size Image Box
* 
10159-2 (Inv) City Airport - Full Size Image Box
830 Parts, 12 Minifigures, 2004
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Airport

* Delete 1 Part 3001 White Brick 2 x 4

Comments from Submitter:
I have this set, and I was counting pieces in order to verify completeness. However I have not found a place to use 2x4 white brick in the building instructions. Maybe it appears as extra part.

Hello

I don't own this set, but when looking at the building instructions (lego.com)

I've found 3 white plate 2X4:
1x step 3 page 8
1x step 7 page 8
1x step 11 page 23

Your instruction is not the same?

You say “plate,” OP says “brick.”
(I say tomato.)
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In Inventories, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Hi, thanks for your complete answer.

It's just weird even LDraw author pick this way to make "textures", UV Mapping
is not a new thing and it's pretty easy for most of the decorated LEGO parts,
minifigs are a bit more tricky to do.

We are talking about a format created in the 1990’s. Maybe you aren’t old enough
to remember how slow personal computers were at this time. I am
Drawing a simple mesh of a couple hundreds triangles took minutes if not hours.
Drawing what shows on each frame in Studio (bricks, some faces hidden, shadows,
Phong lighting…) would have taken hours. Now Studio does it dozens of times
per second.

“Simple” was misleading. Sorry for that. I didn’t mean it was theoretically
complicated (most 2D/3D graphics algorithms are way older than LDraw), I meant
it was practically infeasible and useless.
Also:
1. vectorial patterns are lighter and often better than bitmaps, especially for
the patterns that appear(ed) on LEGO parts,
2. patterns weren’t quite as important when there were so many basic parts not
yet modelled,
3. and I’m sure there are other sensible reasons


Now, yes, it’s debatable the LDraw Official Library took a bit too long to use
the texmap feature (AFAICT, the feature was added in 2012).


  I can't believe anyone modelling 3D object would not use it... and regarding
Studio, as it use Unity, it wouldn't (ans shouldn't) be such a challenge,

I don’t know why Studio doesn’t implement texmaps. LDView and LDCad (among others)
do.
It’s true the official library didn’t use them but it does now (or will, as the
parts are still Unofficial for now).
I’m sure Studio will do too very soon.


  except because of those parts from Ldraw.

Well, if it weren’t for LDraw, Studio wouldn’t have so many parts now.
So Studio is what it is now because of LDraw but also thanks to LDraw


  (shortly UV Mapping is just given each vertex of a 3D object another set of coordinates:
U,V matching a point in the texture area which is basically a 2D tilled "world",
it is very visual and a standard after the basic plain face colours from the
90s)
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In Inventories, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Hi,

short answer is no, if I have understood what you mean by painting (ie: changing
texture of part, like decorated brick or sticker).

Longer answer: soon.


  If you mean something else, please be more explicit.

For the record, I have looked a while back if there is any textures actually
used for decorated parts, and found none at all. Looks like textures has been
converted into raw colour data of some kind, but I didn't dig too much into
this.

LDraw (the underlying format for parts in Studio) is an old format. It’s not
a bad thing but it explains why, at the time it was created, mapping images wasn’t
a priority or a simple thing.
So, yes, most patterns are “in the flesh” of the parts: they are coloured surfaces
amongst the parts’ surfaces.
BUT, there’s also a (somewhat recent) feature to use common image files (PNG…)
to be mapped on the parts surfaces. The LDraw official library (that Studio
uses, mostly) has started to add parts that use that feature.
Unfortunately, that feature is not (yet?) supported by Studio.


Note that there’s also “stickers” in LDraw: Parts that are only coloured surfaces
and that can be placed in front of any plane surface to add patterns (like real
stickers but not bendable).
Studio chose not to add them in its palettes but they should be usable as custom
parts.


  Too bad we can't just put any pic somewhere in data to create custom decorated
parts.

According to Summer (forum_admin on the dedicated forum for Studio: http://forum.bricklikn.com/
), and if I remember correctly (there are several highly awaited features), this
feature is in QA (testing) and will be released soon.
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In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  Good question, it should be a 2018 entry.

In Catalog, kulturbaronen writes:
  Why is the rare Star Wars minifigure Finch Dallow (sw1005) registered under 2017?

I know the original LEGO set (Resistance Bomber) was released in 2017, but the
re-release of the set - which included the new Finch Dallow minifig - is from
late 2018.

Or am I wrong?

If minifig dates work the same way than for parts, they are automatically set
from the (oldest) set they are from.
So, unless the new version of the set gets its own entry, the minifig’s date
will stay 2017.
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In Suggestions, HallBricks writes:
  […]
BrickLink seems to improve all buyers features. […]

Which ones?

Look at the “new” (3 year old) Wanted List features: We can’t merge WLs, we
can’t intersect WLs, we can’t manage our own inventory without becoming a seller….
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In Colors, Milble_79 writes:
  Does anyone know where I can find an Official LEGO Colour Palette with CMYK or
RGB breakdowns??

Would be awesome if anyone knows of one.

The most complete list: http://ryanhowerter.net/colors.html
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 14:05
 Subject: Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous?
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 Topic: Catalog
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In Catalog, brikomania writes:
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Thank you for the explanations. I agree that some times, or for some people it
can be useful, but i believe that most of the time it isn't. As suggested,
I think that there should be an option to do a general search for wantlists or
in store, choose if you care about variants or not.

The database isn’t made for this, and the only way now is to have “undetermined”
variants, which just adds another variant, fouls the price guide, and makes half
the buyers unhappy.

What would be nice would be “virtual undetermined parts,” and inventories and
sellers should still have to use the determined variants but searches and WLs
wouldn’t.

(There might still be problems though. Say, a buyer parts out a set into a WL,
they are asked if they allow other variants, they accept because they think it
will be cheaper and easier to fullfil, but the set really can only be built with
the one variant )

But that means modifying the database and the site too deeply, at least for now….
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 07:48
 Subject: Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous?
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 Topic: Catalog
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, brikomania writes:
  I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.

But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?

Three variants. Don’t exaggerate, you’re showing them

 
Part No: 3307  Name: Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Thick Top with Reinforced Underside
* 
3307 Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Thick Top with Reinforced Underside
Parts: Arch
 
Part No: 15254  Name: Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Medium Thick Top without Reinforced Underside
* 
15254 Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Medium Thick Top without Reinforced Underside
Parts: Arch
 
Part No: 12939  Name: Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Thin Top without Reinforced Underside
* 
12939 Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Thin Top without Reinforced Underside
Parts: Arch

  
  I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?



The thin / thick thing is described in the notes, and mm dimensions given. Personally,
the difference between the old and new style (with/without the reinforcement)
is enough, but I I can understand why the different variants are there.

Yes, the variants are important:

1. You can fit some parts under the thin and medium thick parts that you can’t
fit under the thick one. E.g.
 
Part No: 20309  Name: Window 1 x 4 x 1 2/3 with Spoked Rounded Top
* 
20309 Window 1 x 4 x 1 2/3 with Spoked Rounded Top
Parts: Window

2. Collectors find it very important to get the right variant.

The odd part here would be the thin one: it was short lived (a year). Too fragile?
Too thin (it leaves a noticeable gap)?
Anyway, it’s here and came before the medium thick and was already in the catalogue
(2013) when the medium thick version was spotted / included in the catalogue
(2016).
There was no reason to merge thin and medium thick then and there’s no much reason
to do it now as we would still need to keep the old one.

Wouldn’t it be as confusing to have a “thick” version and “more or less thin”
one?
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Feb 4, 2019 08:55
 Subject: Re: My Pet Peeve of the day
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 Topic: Suggestions
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In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
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Is it not used once Lego puts it on the backing? The sticker is then stuck to
the backing that needs to be peeled off to put it on the Lego element. So if
it has not been put on the original backing it is new. Once it is stuck on the
white backing it is used.

Nope, a new, blank sticker sheet already has the backing. The backing is like
a sprue. LEGO doesn’t put the sticker on the backing, they print on the sticker
while it’s on the backing.

So it’s the printing that makes the new, blank sticker sheet not new anymore.
A new sticker should be pristine white (or transparent), unprinted.

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