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 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Mar 11, 2019 21:09
 Subject: Re: Factory assembled 4624 version (glued?)
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In Catalog, elias3 writes:
  In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
  
  Rubber does harden over time as the plasticizers leak out. This hardening can
be accelerated by heat and light as well as changes in the amount of cross-linking
of the polymer chains. How old are these tires?

I can't tell. They were found in used bricks I bought. According to BrickLink:
1984-2018 (timeline of 4624 wheel).

/Jan

Hi

Yes they are factory pre-assembled wheels.

The first ones that came out were glued or pressed together.
Same for the 3464c02 and 4624c01 and 4624c02.
(from 1984-85 till I think begin 90s)
Also same for the first 6015 type with the 6014a.

The rubber is also harder, the assembles are softer in rubber.


Stefaan

Were these only glued in certain regions? This time frame was the heyday of my
LEGO collecting as a child, but I can't ever recall seeing glued wheels (and
I took *everything* apart). I only ever bought sets from the US though.

Do you happen to recall any specific sets that would have had glued wheels? I
have a ton of sealed sets from this era and would like to try and see if any
of them might be glued.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Feb 26, 2019 02:20
 Subject: Re: Why is Finch Dallow sw1005 from 2017?
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, mhortar writes:
  I realize that it's a 1 piece change (hair) compared to 2 (helmet, head)

No in Kanan also two parts were changed.
Beside color of hair also print on the head
 
Part No: 3626cpb1111  Name: Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Black Eyebrows, Goatee, Cheek Lines, Smile / Neutral Pattern (SW Kanan Jarrus) - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpb1111 Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Black Eyebrows, Goatee, Cheek Lines, Smile / Neutral Pattern (SW Kanan Jarrus) - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
(black printing)
vs.
 
Part No: 3626cpb1191  Name: Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Dark Brown Eyebrows, Goatee, Cheek Lines, Smile / Neutral Pattern (SW Kanan Jarrus) - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpb1191 Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Dark Brown Eyebrows, Goatee, Cheek Lines, Smile / Neutral Pattern (SW Kanan Jarrus) - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
(dark brown printing)

Well, that sure does shoot half my argument down, doesn't it?

I still think changing from an unnamed to named character is enough of a change
to warrant a new set, but I appear to the in the minority.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Feb 25, 2019 19:24
 Subject: Re: Why is Finch Dallow sw1005 from 2017?
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  There are lot of sets with changed art on boxes (redesigned) without second
entry
for example
 
Set No: 75053  Name: The Ghost
* 
75053-1 (Inv) The Ghost
914 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2014
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Rebels
 
Set No: 75101  Name: First Order Special Forces TIE Fighter
* 
75101-1 (Inv) First Order Special Forces TIE Fighter
501 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2015
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 7

In both cases images on box were changed when those sets were redesign. The Ghost
case is exactly the same as current the Bomber case. Kanan in first run copies
had black hair and on the box of set it is also with black hair and head printing,
but LEGO in this case very quickly realised about mistake and changed Kanan to
brown hair and head print, changing minifg on box to brown Kanan.
In second case due to redesign, change is visible in construction of Tie on box,
two box arts then exists before redesign and after.
Don't remember now any more. But when it will be decided to create second
entry for 75188 then second entries for those two sets must be created also for
consistency.
When reading commentaries on the web I wonder how many pepole are suprised by
this change, it really nothing special as you see LEGO done this before. Almost
nobody remember Kanan case. But Kanan isn't popular minifigs, Rebels cartoon
weren't such a hype. Lego even stop producing Rebels sets after third seson
and never done sets from last fourth season.
 
Minifig No: sw0577  Name: Kanan Jarrus - Black Hair and Eyebrows
* 
sw0577 (Inv) Kanan Jarrus - Black Hair and Eyebrows
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Rebels
 
Minifig No: sw0602  Name: Kanan Jarrus - Dark Brown Hair and Eyebrows
* 
sw0602 (Inv) Kanan Jarrus - Dark Brown Hair and Eyebrows
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Rebels

List of redesigned sets:
https://brickset.com/sets/list-18333

I disagree that the Ghost case is the exact same as the Bomber. The Ghost kept
the same minifig, just changed the hair color to be more accurate to the source
material. The bomber change went from an unnamed pilot to a named character.
I realize that it's a 1 piece change (hair) compared to 2 (helmet, head),
but the context of changing to a named character that more accurately represents
the actual actor in the source material should add additional weight to the decision
on whether or not a second variation of the set is warranted. Considering
the possibility of confusion with people expecting one version of the character
or the other, it would seem like adding the alternate set number would be an
easy way to alleviate that problem in the future.

I'm not sure what the box change was for the TIE Fighter, so can't comment
on that.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 14:33
 Subject: Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous?
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  
(There might still be problems though. Say, a buyer parts out a set into a WL,
they are asked if they allow other variants, they accept because they think it
will be cheaper and easier to fullfil, but the set really can only be built with
the one variant )


This part is the one that would potentially cause issues. Things like the variations
of 3933/3934 that can cause parts to physically not attach in some scenarios.
That's the first I can think of just because I've experienced it in the
past.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 13:29
 Subject: Re: Allow AFOLs to "Bricklink" the ADP sets
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, mhortar writes:
  In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
  There are no plans to do so, but I hope that once the regular sales period is
finished Bricklink allows the inventory of these sets to be added to the catalog
so people can add them to a want list and buy the parts they need to build them.
Since they use mostly common parts, I think many AFOLs would prefer to build
them with the parts in their own collection, and just buy any ones they are missing.

Not only would this generate revenue for Bricklink by increased sales, it would
be an olive branch to the sellers who have been completely excluded from this
promotion.

Bricklink has done so much to build the AFOL community and it has become a verb
within our vocabulary (much like Google has in the general population). It would
be a sad irony if the sets created by Bricklink to celebrate AFOLs cannot be
Bricklinked by AFOLs.

From what I understand from reading about these sets, these aren't going
to be officially recognized LEGO sets. If that's the case, I don't feel
like they belong in the catalog. Someone will post the inventory somewhere (from
what I understand, it happens with most popular MOCs), so there is nothing stopping
a buyer from creating their own wanted list and purchase the parts without having
the set in the catalog.

Josh

They're still more official than BrickArms, which is also in the catalog...

Plus, the whole "exciting" part about the whole project, according to BL itself,
is the fact that it's an official cooperation with the LEGO Group.

So yes, I definitely see the irony.

I objected to adding BrickArms as well, for what it's worth. Fat lot of good
that did

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 12:55
 Subject: Re: Allow AFOLs to "Bricklink" the ADP sets
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In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
  There are no plans to do so, but I hope that once the regular sales period is
finished Bricklink allows the inventory of these sets to be added to the catalog
so people can add them to a want list and buy the parts they need to build them.
Since they use mostly common parts, I think many AFOLs would prefer to build
them with the parts in their own collection, and just buy any ones they are missing.

Not only would this generate revenue for Bricklink by increased sales, it would
be an olive branch to the sellers who have been completely excluded from this
promotion.

Bricklink has done so much to build the AFOL community and it has become a verb
within our vocabulary (much like Google has in the general population). It would
be a sad irony if the sets created by Bricklink to celebrate AFOLs cannot be
Bricklinked by AFOLs.

From what I understand from reading about these sets, these aren't going
to be officially recognized LEGO sets. If that's the case, I don't feel
like they belong in the catalog. Someone will post the inventory somewhere (from
what I understand, it happens with most popular MOCs), so there is nothing stopping
a buyer from creating their own wanted list and purchase the parts without having
the set in the catalog.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Jan 28, 2019 04:22
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig rsq004
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, jaspervries writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Minifig No: rsq004  Name: Res-Q 1 - Helmet
* 
rsq004 Res-Q 1 - Helmet
Minifigures: Town: Res-Q
Marked for Deletion

* Change 1 Part {Trans-Light Blue to Trans-Dark Blue} 2447 Minifigure, Visor Standard

What is your source for making this change request?

Thanks,
Randy

For what it's worth, I have a sealed copy of 6479. I can see the trans-dark
blue visor in the bag, but I can't get a good photo of it. This was the best
I could come up with...

Josh
 
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Jan 25, 2019 17:48
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 730-2
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 730  Name: Basic Building Set
* 
730-2 (Inv) Basic Building Set
407 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic

* Change 1 Part Trans-Clear {3003 Brick 2 x 2 to 3003old Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports}

Comments from Submitter:
I changed a few other bricks in this set and then later noticed this one. I think it qualifies on oldness to change transparent bricks, right? Since old opaque bricks were also found in the set.

Technically all transparent 3003 bricks do not have inside supports, so according
to just the name of the part, all transparent 3003s would qualify as "3003old".
However, if we were to change all inventories in this way, then we would have
3003old parts all the way through the LEGO timeline up to the present day, which
would not be ideal. I also believe that the 3003old entry was created for those
looking for vintage _opaque_ 3003s.

When looking at the BrickLink data, it looks like the switch from 3003old to
3003 occurred around the mid-1980s, so the cutoff for including the Trans-Clear
brick as a 3003old in some inventories and as a 3003 in other inventories has
been arbitrarily set around the 1984 point. I guess this sort of makes sense,
but I am not too keen about the solution employed. I don't want to change
any more inventories with these parts in transparent colors until it is discussed
further by the admins.

This request will be rejected for now.

Cheers,
Randy

Should there be a new catalog item added, something like 3003trans or 3003t
to try and differentiate between vintage, modern, and modern transparent parts?
Maybe 3003old needs to be renamed to 'Brick 2x2 pre-1980 without inside supports'
or 'Brick 2x2 vintage without inside supports'...

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Jan 4, 2019 16:01
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1870-1
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 1870  Name: FreeStyle Set polybag #6
* 
1870-1 (Inv) FreeStyle Set polybag #6
36 Parts, 1995
Sets: FreeStyle

* Delete 4 Part 3641 Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small
* Delete 4 Part 4624 White Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Change 4 Part White 4624c02 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small (4624 / 3641) {Counterpart to Regular}

Comments from Submitter:
Picture will follow


I know.. It's difficult to prove the complete wheel
Please to not decline, I will cancel my request if you not approve.

-Fred

Is that the largest the image can get? Do you have a link to a better one?

- Randy


Randy,

The image come from Ebay:
-Fred

Your message is going to get cancelled because you can't post links to ebay.
However, I looked at the much larger image, and it does look like the wheels/tires
are together. In any case, I just bought the polybag, so we will know for sure
very soon!

- Randy


I also buy this set as new

I didn't have this one yet, so I figured "what the hell."

lol, that line of thinking has gotten me into soooooo much trouble...

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Dec 24, 2018 02:08
 Subject: Re: New Relationship Catalog Project Underway
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  We have long needed a relationship match that shows items which fit together
and which are frequently used together. I have asked for this type of match
in the past and have gotten nowhere.

Instead, these kinds of matches were added as paired parts even though they did
not fit the spirit or definition of that match (and the sentence "Exceptions
to these definitions are determined at administrative discretion." was added
to the Item Relationships definitions page). Some examples of items currently
matched as paired parts:

 
Part No: 44225  Name: Technic Rotation Joint Disk with Large Pin and 3L Liftarm Thick
* 
44225 Technic Rotation Joint Disk with Large Pin and 3L Liftarm Thick
Parts: Technic
 
Part No: 44224  Name: Technic Rotation Joint Disk with Large Pin Hole and 3L Liftarm Thick
* 
44224 Technic Rotation Joint Disk with Large Pin Hole and 3L Liftarm Thick
Parts: Technic

 
Part No: 92910  Name: Technic, Steering Ball Joint Large Open with C-Shape Pivot Frame
* 
92910 Technic, Steering Ball Joint Large Open with C-Shape Pivot Frame
Parts: Technic, Steering
 
Part No: 92911  Name: Technic, Steering Ball Joint Large Receptacle
* 
92911 Technic, Steering Ball Joint Large Receptacle
Parts: Technic, Steering

 
Part No: 87617  Name: Cylinder 1 x 5 1/2 with Bar Handle (Friction Cylinder)
* 
87617 Cylinder 1 x 5 1/2 with Bar Handle (Friction Cylinder)
Parts: Cylinder
 
Part No: 87618  Name: Bar   5L with Handle (Friction Ram)
* 
87618 Bar 5L with Handle (Friction Ram)
Parts: Bar

In my ongoing struggle to make the world a better place, generally speaking,
by addressing first-world problems of the lowest magnitude, we now have a new
relationship match:

Parts that Fit Together

Shows parts that naturally fit together which are designed to work together
and which are nearly always used together as a single unit.


If anyone sees where this definition could be improved, then please let me know.
Otherwise, start sending me some new item relationships and let's see how
well this works. I've added a few to get us started and here is one of them
so you can see how it looks:

 
Part No: 3937  Name: Hinge Brick 1 x 2 Base
* 
3937 Hinge Brick 1 x 2 Base
Parts: Hinge
 
Part No: 3938  Name: Hinge Brick 1 x 2 Top Plate
* 
3938 Hinge Brick 1 x 2 Top Plate
Parts: Hinge

See the project on the catalog roadmap:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476

See the new relationship match added and defined today:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRel.asp

So I tried adding a new relationship for
 
Part No: 3937  Name: Hinge Brick 1 x 2 Base
* 
3937 Hinge Brick 1 x 2 Base
Parts: Hinge
and
 
Part No: 6134  Name: Hinge Brick 2 x 2 Top Plate
* 
6134 Hinge Brick 2 x 2 Top Plate
Parts: Hinge
and got an error.
Should I have modified the existing relationship instead?

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Dec 20, 2018 19:34
 Subject: Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28?
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  so much for that attempt at humor

Sorry, didn't realize it was an attempt at humor. I've been getting
some occasionally unfriendly feedback of late and thus I've tended to assume
things are criticism unless stated otherwise.

It's funny . . . people complain about bitter, unresponsive administrators
and never think to question how that happens.

I like my administrators how I like my coffee... Dark (humor) and bitter

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Dec 18, 2018 04:35
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4563-1
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, mhortar writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 4563  Name: Load N' Haul Railroad
* 
4563-1 (Inv) Load N' Haul Railroad
445 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1991
Sets: Train: 9V

* Delete 4 Part 3641 Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small
* Delete 2 Part 4084 Black Tire 21mm D. x 9mm Offset Tread Medium
* Delete 4 Part 4624 White Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Delete 2 Part 4624 Yellow Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Change 2 Part Yellow 4624c02 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small (4624 / 3641) {Counterpart to Regular}
* Change 2 Part White 4624c02 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small (4624 / 3641) {Counterpart to Regular}
* Change 2 Part White 4624c03 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire 21mm D. x 9mm Offset Tread Medium (4624 / 4084) {Counterpart to Regular}

Comments from Submitter:
Picture will follow

It is hard to tell from the images what wheel assemblies are shown. None of them
look like they have yellow wheels, so the change for that one will not be approved
based on these images. If you can tell what wheel assembly is shown with the
white images, I can accept those.

Cheers,
Randy

Sorry, but I didn't find better image than that

Yeah, I don't think that helps very much. I will take a look around later
to see if I can dig up anything better. If not, I will let you go ahead and cancel
the requests instead of rejecting them.

Cheers,
Randy


Okay,
If I don't find better, I'm going to cancel in 24hours

Fred

I have a sealed copy of this set at home, I'll try to remember to check it
when I get there.

Josh

That deserves a huge pat on the back!

Please let us know what you find out.

Thanks,
Randy

Here's a pic showing the yellow wheels. Hope it's clear enough.

Josh
 
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Dec 17, 2018 23:09
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4563-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, mhortar writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, mhortar writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 4563  Name: Load N' Haul Railroad
* 
4563-1 (Inv) Load N' Haul Railroad
445 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1991
Sets: Train: 9V

* Delete 4 Part 3641 Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small
* Delete 2 Part 4084 Black Tire 21mm D. x 9mm Offset Tread Medium
* Delete 4 Part 4624 White Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Delete 2 Part 4624 Yellow Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Change 2 Part Yellow 4624c02 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small (4624 / 3641) {Counterpart to Regular}
* Change 2 Part White 4624c02 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small (4624 / 3641) {Counterpart to Regular}
* Change 2 Part White 4624c03 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire 21mm D. x 9mm Offset Tread Medium (4624 / 4084) {Counterpart to Regular}

Comments from Submitter:
Picture will follow

It is hard to tell from the images what wheel assemblies are shown. None of them
look like they have yellow wheels, so the change for that one will not be approved
based on these images. If you can tell what wheel assembly is shown with the
white images, I can accept those.

Cheers,
Randy

Sorry, but I didn't find better image than that

Yeah, I don't think that helps very much. I will take a look around later
to see if I can dig up anything better. If not, I will let you go ahead and cancel
the requests instead of rejecting them.

Cheers,
Randy


Okay,
If I don't find better, I'm going to cancel in 24hours

Fred

I have a sealed copy of this set at home, I'll try to remember to check it
when I get there.

Josh

That deserves a huge pat on the back!

Please let us know what you find out.

Thanks,
Randy

Is there some sort of list you guys are working off of for these changes, or
just going by whatever has these parts? I've got hundreds of sealed sets
from the 80s and 90s and my BrickSet collection is mostly accurate, so if there's
a list of sets that need to be checked, I should be able to see what I have in
my collection and help out more.

Josh

May I send you a list?

Yeah, that would work. I still haven't decided if I'll open any sets
yet or not, but for the boxes I have that the seals are already opened or they
have a visible flap, I can hopefully check for any specific parts.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Dec 17, 2018 18:50
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4563-1
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, mhortar writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 4563  Name: Load N' Haul Railroad
* 
4563-1 (Inv) Load N' Haul Railroad
445 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1991
Sets: Train: 9V

* Delete 4 Part 3641 Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small
* Delete 2 Part 4084 Black Tire 21mm D. x 9mm Offset Tread Medium
* Delete 4 Part 4624 White Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Delete 2 Part 4624 Yellow Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Change 2 Part Yellow 4624c02 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small (4624 / 3641) {Counterpart to Regular}
* Change 2 Part White 4624c02 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small (4624 / 3641) {Counterpart to Regular}
* Change 2 Part White 4624c03 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire 21mm D. x 9mm Offset Tread Medium (4624 / 4084) {Counterpart to Regular}

Comments from Submitter:
Picture will follow

It is hard to tell from the images what wheel assemblies are shown. None of them
look like they have yellow wheels, so the change for that one will not be approved
based on these images. If you can tell what wheel assembly is shown with the
white images, I can accept those.

Cheers,
Randy

Sorry, but I didn't find better image than that

Yeah, I don't think that helps very much. I will take a look around later
to see if I can dig up anything better. If not, I will let you go ahead and cancel
the requests instead of rejecting them.

Cheers,
Randy


Okay,
If I don't find better, I'm going to cancel in 24hours

Fred

I have a sealed copy of this set at home, I'll try to remember to check it
when I get there.

Josh

That deserves a huge pat on the back!

Please let us know what you find out.

Thanks,
Randy

Is there some sort of list you guys are working off of for these changes, or
just going by whatever has these parts? I've got hundreds of sealed sets
from the 80s and 90s and my BrickSet collection is mostly accurate, so if there's
a list of sets that need to be checked, I should be able to see what I have in
my collection and help out more.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Dec 17, 2018 17:54
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4563-1
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In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 4563  Name: Load N' Haul Railroad
* 
4563-1 (Inv) Load N' Haul Railroad
445 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1991
Sets: Train: 9V

* Delete 4 Part 3641 Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small
* Delete 2 Part 4084 Black Tire 21mm D. x 9mm Offset Tread Medium
* Delete 4 Part 4624 White Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Delete 2 Part 4624 Yellow Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Change 2 Part Yellow 4624c02 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small (4624 / 3641) {Counterpart to Regular}
* Change 2 Part White 4624c02 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small (4624 / 3641) {Counterpart to Regular}
* Change 2 Part White 4624c03 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire 21mm D. x 9mm Offset Tread Medium (4624 / 4084) {Counterpart to Regular}

Comments from Submitter:
Picture will follow

It is hard to tell from the images what wheel assemblies are shown. None of them
look like they have yellow wheels, so the change for that one will not be approved
based on these images. If you can tell what wheel assembly is shown with the
white images, I can accept those.

Cheers,
Randy

Sorry, but I didn't find better image than that

Yeah, I don't think that helps very much. I will take a look around later
to see if I can dig up anything better. If not, I will let you go ahead and cancel
the requests instead of rejecting them.

Cheers,
Randy


Okay,
If I don't find better, I'm going to cancel in 24hours

Fred

I have a sealed copy of this set at home, I'll try to remember to check it
when I get there.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Dec 5, 2018 00:04
 Subject: Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this?
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In Catalog, brox999 writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, brox999 writes:
  […]
[3930c01] is in many new sets

Not.
The hinge brick and the hinge plate always came separated.


  and I need
the ability to add this part to my store inventory in a new state […]

This assembly can’t be New: you have assembled the parts yourself, that’s the
definition of Used.

Rubbish, putting two brand new, unused parts together does not make them used.
I list the assembly as new if the parts came from a sealed set

You assembled the parts. That's literally the definition of what makes them
used (previously assembled). You can't build a set and then sell it as 'new,
only assembled once'. There was a big argument a few years ago about whether
stacking bricks/plates at the Pick-A-Brick wall made them 'used' instead
of 'new' (my opinion is yes). There's also the argument that minifigs
can't be sold as 'new' if they are assembled (I'm on the fence
about this one).

Josh

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 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Dec 3, 2018 00:16
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6681-1
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, mhortar writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, mhortar writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:

  (3) I am trying to establish a very firm timeline for the 4073s on sprue. As
of right now, my timeline stretches from 1984-1991. This set is a few years outside
of that current timeline, so I don't want to add in any information yet that
is not concrete.

I will leave this request open as I search for more information.

Thanks for your understanding,

Randy

I can extend the beginning of the timeline to at least 1981 for you. I have a
sealed
 
Set No: 6927  Name: All Terrain Vehicle
* 
6927-1 (Inv) All Terrain Vehicle
161 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Space: Classic Space
that has the trans-red 1x1 plates on the sprues. I'll get
you pictures after the football game is over

Josh

Fantastic! Thank you! I just got it down to 1983 myself.

Cheers,
Randy

For what it's worth, I went and checked one of my 1992 sets that the box
had torn open (but the parts were still sealed). The 1x1 plates are not on the
sprue. An interesting thing to note was that even though the 1x1 plates were
separate, the molding pip was not on the stud like more modern examples.

Josh

Yep. I am finding the cutoff point for the 1x1 round plates on sprue to be around
the 1992 period. I have found one set so far from 1992 with the plates attached
to sprue, but most of the sets from that year are looking like they are without.
Thanks for the backup data, though. Every little bit helps. Would you mind letting
me know which 1992 set it was that you checked?

Cheers,
Randy

The set I checked was
 
Set No: 6594  Name: Gas Transit
* 
6594-1 (Inv) Gas Transit
118 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1992
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Gas Station
, the light gray 1x1 plates. I've got a few
other sets from 1992 that are still sealed that would have at least one of the
1x1 plates, I just haven't decided if I want to pop the seals yet or not.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Dec 2, 2018 20:08
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6927-1
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In Inventories Requests, mhortar writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6927  Name: All Terrain Vehicle
* 
6927-1 (Inv) All Terrain Vehicle
161 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Delete 2 Part 4073 Trans-Red Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 1 Part 4073c01 Trans-Red Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue

Comments from Submitter:
Wasn't sure if the individual 1x1 plates should be moved to counterparts or not, so I left them off. Pictures to follow.

Photos from my sealed set. Note, the plastic bags that the parts are in differ
from what I would normally think of from this era (the stiffer plastic with holes),
but is similar to other sealed sets I have from the late 70s/early 80s.

Another change that I don't know if it would be made or not is that the minfig
torsos come pre-assembled with the heads attached.

Josh
 


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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6927  Name: All Terrain Vehicle
* 
6927-1 (Inv) All Terrain Vehicle
161 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Delete 2 Part 4073 Trans-Red Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 1 Part 4073c01 Trans-Red Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue

Comments from Submitter:
Wasn't sure if the individual 1x1 plates should be moved to counterparts or not, so I left them off. Pictures to follow.
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, mhortar writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:

  (3) I am trying to establish a very firm timeline for the 4073s on sprue. As
of right now, my timeline stretches from 1984-1991. This set is a few years outside
of that current timeline, so I don't want to add in any information yet that
is not concrete.

I will leave this request open as I search for more information.

Thanks for your understanding,

Randy

I can extend the beginning of the timeline to at least 1981 for you. I have a
sealed
 
Set No: 6927  Name: All Terrain Vehicle
* 
6927-1 (Inv) All Terrain Vehicle
161 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Space: Classic Space
that has the trans-red 1x1 plates on the sprues. I'll get
you pictures after the football game is over

Josh

Fantastic! Thank you! I just got it down to 1983 myself.

Cheers,
Randy

For what it's worth, I went and checked one of my 1992 sets that the box
had torn open (but the parts were still sealed). The 1x1 plates are not on the
sprue. An interesting thing to note was that even though the 1x1 plates were
separate, the molding pip was not on the stud like more modern examples.

Josh
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:

  (3) I am trying to establish a very firm timeline for the 4073s on sprue. As
of right now, my timeline stretches from 1984-1991. This set is a few years outside
of that current timeline, so I don't want to add in any information yet that
is not concrete.

I will leave this request open as I search for more information.

Thanks for your understanding,

Randy

I can extend the beginning of the timeline to at least 1981 for you. I have a
sealed
 
Set No: 6927  Name: All Terrain Vehicle
* 
6927-1 (Inv) All Terrain Vehicle
161 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Space: Classic Space
that has the trans-red 1x1 plates on the sprues. I'll get
you pictures after the football game is over

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Nov 28, 2018 13:53
 Subject: Re: Finally! An Image of 9978-1
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  Remember too, there's a couple polybags for parts that came with books that
were recently rejected that I submitted because neither I nor you were able to
locate a photo.

Yes, I remember. There's really only one fix for that: someone will have
to buy the books and photograph the bags. These kinds of sets wouldn't appear
in any catalog because the book must be opened to see them. Once we have photos,
then the sets will be quickly approved.

We're moving away from approving any submission which is not accompanied
by an image and I expect that will become firm policy within the next six months
or so.

There are simply too many items in the catalog completely missing images:

3 minifigures
29 sets
106 catalogs
108 books
133 gear
575 parts
902 instructions
4,236 original boxes

The idea in the past was that if you approved an item then eventually someone
would add a picture. That approach sort of works - sort of. I, for one, am
tired of seeing that we are missing 6,000+ images and that number* will only
keep growing if we don't stop it now.



*To be fair, instructions and boxes don't count as much because they're
created for all sets. Still, 950+ missing images are nothing in which to take
pride. If you look through the list of items missing images, you will see a
fair number of things for sale - clearly we need to do better at rewarding contributors.


I might be able to get pictures of some of the missing Star Wars boxes and instructions.
I just took a peek at what was missing and my inventory says I have at least
a few of them.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Nov 28, 2018 04:05
 Subject: Re: Decorated vs. Pattern
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, mhortar writes:
  I'm not sure that 'Pattern' actually fits.

The word "design" means "decorative pattern."

If we wanted to be truly accurate and consistent, then every single part title
would have one of the eight following identifiers:

Plain
Printed Design
Stickered Design
Printed/Stickered Design
Molded Design
Molded/Printed Design
Molded/Stickered Design
Molded/Stickered/Printed Design (pretty sure there are none of those)

Have I missed any? Maybe when/if we get tags we can do this. I think it would
be helpful.

But it sounds like "Decorated" is the preferred term so far from all three commentors.
I still think it's quite strange that part categories are the only place
we use that word, but this ain't a one-man show.

Are there any Printed/Stickered parts? I'm pretty sure there are molded/printed
parts (at least dual-molded arms), but not sure about the other combinations.
Molded/stickered might exist too, but they're probably pretty rare.

I checked some other definition sites and none of them focused on the 'repetition'
aspect like the first one I came across (I think it was the Oxford dictionary),
so upon further review, I'd be agreeable to 'Patterned' for the category
name. There's something to be said for making the category names and the
terms used in the actual names to be consistent.

Josh
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In my continual effort to make your lives marginally better (which is a close
second to my continual effort to be a person who does not use catchphrases),
I propose the following for discussion: why do we call patterns patterns pretty
much everywhere but in category names?

Nearly the only place you will see "Decorated" on BrickLink is in category names
(32 of them). When you click on decorated parts, though, you see parts with
patterns. I propose changing the word "Decorated" to the word "Pattern" in those
32 category names. This will have no effects except in aesthetics and site-wide
consistency.

LordSkylark has asked for a category split of the Aircraft category into patterned
and non-patterned parts. I decided to succumb to his demand and have created
a new category titled Aircraft, Pattern. Now you can look at it on the parts
category page and see if you prefer the way things are now or the way I suggest
we do things.

Provide input, please.

I'm not sure that 'Pattern' actually fits. I think you'd have
to go with 'Patterned', but even then, a pattern is more of a repeated
design, which doesn't fit for most printed parts. Decorated, Ornamented,
or Embellished would probably be better fits.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Nov 24, 2018 18:43
 Subject: Re: Seventh Catalog Project - Titles Update
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In Catalog, bje writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  I'm just noting that there's a mix of apples and oranges in this column.

Right, and I did think of that and disliked it. I have most of the 4 Juniors
sets done now according to the guidelines:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?catType=M&catString=516&itemBrand=1000

Honestly, when I see all those set numbers together on one page I don't much
care for the idea of including them at all. For those of you who want set numbers
added to the titles, do you like the way they look?

We could go with including them for one set only and use (Multiple Sets) after
that. This would fix the issue mfav pointed out. But, if I were the only person
deciding, I'd just leave them off completely except for figures which hadn't
yet been included in an inventory. They just look messy to me.

I'm honestly ambivalent about including the set numbers. On the one hand
I'd like a feature of the catalog to easily point out something unique (such
as a figure occurring only in 1 set). On the other hand, I have got issues with
all those numbers - they do look messy (and you've not done a figure that
is included in a book with the ISBN number as item number - 13 digits or three
books will have 39 digits!!). Also, how many inventory submitters are going to
remember to put those numbers in ascending order for name changes? Conversely,
how many submitters are going to remember to put a name change through for the
removal of the set number once the set has been inventoried? Or worse still,
which numbers do you order on: sets, gear or books, i e do you have a naming
convention that set numbers are first in line, ascending, then gear, then books?

So lets go with the work involved - which is easier: name changes for ascending
set numbers if you stick with three max (and I personally like the idea of 3+
sets in stead of multiple sets proposed in the other reply to this), or removing
set numbers from figures names once the inventory comes through? That is for
catmins to decide, as I said previously, if a person can remember to actually
do the name change request, it is not a huge extra effort as part of an inventory
submission to do so. Note that I'm not going with the workload to re-name
most if not all of the figures in the catalog, this will have to be done anyway
so including set numbers is just tacked on to that.

Furthermore, I've tested the searches on some of those 4 Juniors using just
the set numbers, and they do come up correctly as figures in the search results,
so from that perspective it works. But, and this is problematic, under what instance
would you search for a figure using the set number? If you have the figure or
a part of it, and do not know the set, you cannot do the search on that basis.
If you know the set number, then you can find the figure in its inventory. So
it would seem that I am back to my first argument - nice to have, and not necessarily
practical or user friendly in terms of look and feel (circular logic). If the
workload involved for the name changes referred to above is the same, then I
would just go for leaving the set numbers off altogether unless a set has not
been inventoried as yet and rather forgo the nice to have for a practical look
and feel.

My personal thoughts have gone back and forth on set numbers in the minifig description.
First I was against it, then after reading a lot of the feedback here, I had
changed my mind and thought it was a good idea. But now, after seeing it in practice,
it really clutters up and complicates things unnecessarily.

Finding which set a minifig is in takes 2 extra clicks, so it's really not
a lot of additional effort. In theory if we add the set number into the minifig
name, you could see all the minifigs in a set by just searching the set name.
Except if a minifig appears in more than 3 sets, the set number gets removed
and would no longer show up in the search of the set number. In the situation
where a set has a lot of minifigs, you might see all, most, some, or none
of the minifigs show up, depending on how often the minifigs appear elsewhere.
This seems like it would be more confusing than helpful.

Josh

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