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Author: | WoutR | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 19:25 | Subject: | Re: Slight variation on book cover to catalogue | Viewed: | 23 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Lauren_Luke writes:
| | Could there be a difference in the bookbinding?
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Yes...
9780241314227 is Hardback
9781465467140 is Paperback
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Are you certain about that?
Does anyone have a paperback edition?
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Author: | SezaR | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 19:22 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6346-1 | Viewed: | 17 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 12 Part 3641 Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small
* Delete 12 Part 4624 White Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Change 12 Part White 4624c02 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small (4624 / 3641) {Counterpart to Regular}
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Author: | Lauren_Luke | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 19:19 | Subject: | Re: Slight variation on book cover to catalogue | Viewed: | 19 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| | Could there be a difference in the bookbinding?
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Yes...
9780241314227 is Hardback
9781465467140 is Paperback
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Author: | Stuart9 | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 19:13 | Subject: | Re: Slight variation on book cover to catalogue | Viewed: | 18 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| Suggests there must be, no idea what that would be.
The Hardcover however is normally the more expensive.
In Catalog, WoutR writes:
| In Catalog, WoutR writes:
| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
| Existing entry :
Variation has different id number, see photo's.
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If you read the text at the bottom of the current catalog image, it says "NOT
FINALLY APPROVED BY LICENSOR - FOR SALES MATERIAL ONLY"
That makes me think that the current catalog image is a prototype image and not
the actual book cover that made it to publishing.
Cheers,
Randy
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That could be it, but where does the different number come from? Is that also
related to a prototype?
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For some reason I can find two versions on a popular Dutch online store. The
description seems to be nearly identical, but the price is not...
1)
The LEGO Book New Edition
with exclusive LEGO brick
Auteur: Daniel Lipkowitz
Uitgever: Dorling Kindersley Ltd
Engels
1e druk
9780241314227
oktober 2018
Hardcover -- Binding "Hardcover"
280 pagina's
Euro 17,99
2)
The Lego Book, New Edition
With Exclusive Lego Brick
Auteur: Daniel Lipkowitz
Uitgever: Dk Publishing (Dorling Kindersley
Engels
1e druk
9781465467140
oktober 2018
Bindwijze overig -- Binding "Other"
280 pagina's
Euro 22,99
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Could there be a difference in the bookbinding?
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Author: | WoutR | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 19:07 | Subject: | Re: Slight variation on book cover to catalogue | Viewed: | 19 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, WoutR writes:
| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
| Existing entry :
Variation has different id number, see photo's.
|
If you read the text at the bottom of the current catalog image, it says "NOT
FINALLY APPROVED BY LICENSOR - FOR SALES MATERIAL ONLY"
That makes me think that the current catalog image is a prototype image and not
the actual book cover that made it to publishing.
Cheers,
Randy
|
That could be it, but where does the different number come from? Is that also
related to a prototype?
|
For some reason I can find two versions on a popular Dutch online store. The
description seems to be nearly identical, but the price is not...
1)
The LEGO Book New Edition
with exclusive LEGO brick
Auteur: Daniel Lipkowitz
Uitgever: Dorling Kindersley Ltd
Engels
1e druk
9780241314227
oktober 2018
Hardcover -- Binding "Hardcover"
280 pagina's
Euro 17,99
2)
The Lego Book, New Edition
With Exclusive Lego Brick
Auteur: Daniel Lipkowitz
Uitgever: Dk Publishing (Dorling Kindersley
Engels
1e druk
9781465467140
oktober 2018
Bindwijze overig -- Binding "Other"
280 pagina's
Euro 22,99
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Could there be a difference in the bookbinding?
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Author: | bje | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 18:50 | Subject: | Re: Slight variation on book cover to catalogue | Viewed: | 24 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, WoutR writes:
| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
| Existing entry :
Variation has different id number, see photo's.
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If you read the text at the bottom of the current catalog image, it says "NOT
FINALLY APPROVED BY LICENSOR - FOR SALES MATERIAL ONLY"
That makes me think that the current catalog image is a prototype image and not
the actual book cover that made it to publishing.
Cheers,
Randy
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That could be it, but where does the different number come from? Is that also
related to a prototype?
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I got the original image off S@H USA, which was where it was officially for sale
in October, though not any longer. The ISBN number is from Amazon USA, and they
are still using the same number, no difference at all. I'll order one from
Amazon in the USA as soon as possible after I've received the local version,
which will be a UK import, currently on back-order. Might be that both S@H USA
and Amazon USA used the publisher's information initially.
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Author: | Stuart9 | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 18:49 | Subject: | Re: Slight variation on book cover to catalogue | Viewed: | 20 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| Does anyone know if they are readily available anywhere/everywhere ?
I have the chance to buy others but that may not be possible after tomorrow.
The bricks don't seem to be listed yet.
In Catalog, WoutR writes:
| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
| Existing entry :
Variation has different id number, see photo's.
|
If you read the text at the bottom of the current catalog image, it says "NOT
FINALLY APPROVED BY LICENSOR - FOR SALES MATERIAL ONLY"
That makes me think that the current catalog image is a prototype image and not
the actual book cover that made it to publishing.
Cheers,
Randy
|
That could be it, but where does the different number come from? Is that also
related to a prototype?
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Author: | WoutR | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 18:31 | Subject: | Re: Slight variation on book cover to catalogue | Viewed: | 29 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
| Existing entry :
Variation has different id number, see photo's.
|
If you read the text at the bottom of the current catalog image, it says "NOT
FINALLY APPROVED BY LICENSOR - FOR SALES MATERIAL ONLY"
That makes me think that the current catalog image is a prototype image and not
the actual book cover that made it to publishing.
Cheers,
Randy
|
That could be it, but where does the different number come from? Is that also
related to a prototype?
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Author: | mnoel2 | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 17:32 | Subject: | Does this count as a catalog entry? | Viewed: | 96 times | Topic: | Catalog | Status: | Open | |
| Would this pack count as a set? For sale at a retail store. Or, if not, would
the figs count as a catalog entry?
They contain many unique elements.
~Mark
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Author: | Brixalotl | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 16:30 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 76026-1 | Viewed: | 21 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 2 Part 44301 Dark Bluish Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (undetermined type)
* Add 2 Part 44301b Dark Bluish Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End without Bottom Groove
* Delete 2 Part 44302 Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
* Add 2 Part 44302a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove
Comments from Submitter:
confirmed during part out, thanks
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Author: | mjwest83 | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 15:45 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4841-1 | Viewed: | 24 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| In Inventories Requests, mjwest83 writes:
| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| In Inventories Requests, mjwest83 writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 4 Part 51011u Black Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - (MARKED FOR DELETION - Undetermined Version)
* Add 4 Part 42611 Black Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads
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What is your source for making this change?
Cheers,
Randy
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Well, I am doing the inventory for the Anglia. I would have much preferred to
just use th listed 51011u, to be honest, but the system wouldn’t let me. So,
I had to figure out what the options are and pick one. I see that the difference
is that it will either have a band around the middle or it won’t. My tires do
not have the band, thus I picked 42611. And these are the tires that came from
the set I have.
And, since I thought it would be ridiculous to list different part numbers for
the same part in the set that includes the assembly, I made the catalog request
change for the set.
I can send pictures, if that’d help. I’m not sure what else I can say to clarify
the request. Especially since the replaced part is supposed to be deleted anyway.
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Hi Mike -
When I asked for the source, I meant what we use in the inventory system: "Sealed
Set Contents", "Used Set", "Parts List", etc. I am sorry if that was not clear.
If your source is a set that was purchased new by you, opened and built by you,
and the pieces were never mixed with another set, then the source is "Sealed
Set Contents" and approving the request is easy. We would then get the main set
updated as well as get the Ford Anglia assembly you have submitted approved.
If your source is a set that was purchased used by you or the pieces have been
mixed with other sets then I need to find proof somewhere else to accept this
request so that we don't get wrong data into the system. I have not done
this yet because I was awaiting a response from you.
Hopefully that explains things a bit better.
So now I can ask again, "What is your source for making this change?"
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Oh! I apologize for being dense. I get it now.
I bought it off BrickLink as a sealed Bag 2 from the 4841-1 set. It’s wasn't
*technically* a sealed set, but the car was from a sealed bag. Hopefully that
is close enough?
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 14:13 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4841-1 | Viewed: | 26 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, mjwest83 writes:
| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| In Inventories Requests, mjwest83 writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 4 Part 51011u Black Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - (MARKED FOR DELETION - Undetermined Version)
* Add 4 Part 42611 Black Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads
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What is your source for making this change?
Cheers,
Randy
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Well, I am doing the inventory for the Anglia. I would have much preferred to
just use th listed 51011u, to be honest, but the system wouldn’t let me. So,
I had to figure out what the options are and pick one. I see that the difference
is that it will either have a band around the middle or it won’t. My tires do
not have the band, thus I picked 42611. And these are the tires that came from
the set I have.
And, since I thought it would be ridiculous to list different part numbers for
the same part in the set that includes the assembly, I made the catalog request
change for the set.
I can send pictures, if that’d help. I’m not sure what else I can say to clarify
the request. Especially since the replaced part is supposed to be deleted anyway.
|
Hi Mike -
When I asked for the source, I meant what we use in the inventory system: "Sealed
Set Contents", "Used Set", "Parts List", etc. I am sorry if that was not clear.
If your source is a set that was purchased new by you, opened and built by you,
and the pieces were never mixed with another set, then the source is "Sealed
Set Contents" and approving the request is easy. We would then get the main set
updated as well as get the Ford Anglia assembly you have submitted approved.
If your source is a set that was purchased used by you or the pieces have been
mixed with other sets then I need to find proof somewhere else to accept this
request so that we don't get wrong data into the system. I have not done
this yet because I was awaiting a response from you.
Hopefully that explains things a bit better.
So now I can ask again, "What is your source for making this change?"
Cheers,
Randy
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Author: | mjwest83 | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 13:41 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4841-1 | Viewed: | 24 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| In Inventories Requests, mjwest83 writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 4 Part 51011u Black Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - (MARKED FOR DELETION - Undetermined Version)
* Add 4 Part 42611 Black Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads
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What is your source for making this change?
Cheers,
Randy
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Well, I am doing the inventory for the Anglia. I would have much preferred to
just use th listed 51011u, to be honest, but the system wouldn’t let me. So,
I had to figure out what the options are and pick one. I see that the difference
is that it will either have a band around the middle or it won’t. My tires do
not have the band, thus I picked 42611. And these are the tires that came from
the set I have.
And, since I thought it would be ridiculous to list different part numbers for
the same part in the set that includes the assembly, I made the catalog request
change for the set.
I can send pictures, if that’d help. I’m not sure what else I can say to clarify
the request. Especially since the replaced part is supposed to be deleted anyway.
|
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Author: | slq | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 12:56 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60198-1 | Viewed: | 18 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3024 Dark Bluish Gray Plate 1 x 1 (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
From a MISB.
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 12:31 | Subject: | Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | Viewed: | 26 times | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| But, perhaps Marek and Randy can produce some guidelines for us on how extra
sticker sheets should be handled in set inventories considering the positions
we've outlined.
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Marek and I can look into this, but it won't be very high priority.
Also, judging by your position, you wouldn't like my guidelines.
Cheers,
Randy
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Author: | L.tide | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 10:16 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 31080-1 | Viewed: | 12 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 48729b Black Bar 1L with Clip Mechanical Claw, Cut Edges and Hole on Side (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 53451 Black Barb / Claw / Horn - Small (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 20482 Black Tile, Round 1 x 1 with Bar and Pin Holder (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 4073 Green Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 4073 Light Bluish Gray Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 90540 Pearl Gold Minifigure, Utensil Ski Pole 3L with Handle, Stop Ring and Side Stops (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 4073 Red Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 87994 Reddish Brown Bar 3L (Bar Arrow) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 4073 Reddish Brown Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 4073 Trans-Light Blue Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 4073 Trans-Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 4073 Trans-Orange Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 46304 White Minifigure, Visor Snow Goggles (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 4073 White Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3024 White Plate 1 x 1 (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 54200 White Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3 (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 98138pb007 White Tile, Round 1 x 1 with Black Eye with Pupil Pattern (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
sealed set
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Author: | SezaR | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 10:04 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6986-1 | Viewed: | 13 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 4 Part 3641 Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small
* Delete 4 Part 4624 White Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Change 4 Part White 4624c02 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small (4624 / 3641) {Counterpart to Regular}
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Source:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=321407
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Author: | SezaR | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 10:02 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6986-1 | Viewed: | 15 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 4 Part 3641 Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small
* Delete 4 Part 4624 White Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Change 4 Part White 4624c02 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire 15mm D. x 6mm Offset Tread Small (4624 / 3641) {Counterpart to Regular}
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Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 04:44 | Subject: | Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | Viewed: | 23 times | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| But the sticker sheets were clearly not intended to be included as extra parts
and don't appear often enough to justify including them as extra parts.
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There are two schools of thought on this and good arguments can definitely be
made for both positions. You have presented one side well and I will present
the other side:
1. Frequency of appearance is not currently the deciding factor in the
inclusion of an extra part in a set inventory. Should it be? I don't believe
so. How could you reasonably set a quantity of appearances before an extra is
allowed into an inventory?
2. I've never heard a convincing explanation of why any extra parts
are included in any sets, although I've certainly heard a number of theories.
Extra sticker sheets certainly don't appear to be consistent extras, but
should intentionality on the part of TLG be the deciding factor on including
extras in an inventory? I don't believe so, or at least not until we can
conclusively define (based on convincing evidence) the circumstances regarding
extra parts and their appearance in sets.
3. It is possible that extra sticker sheet extras are more common than
any of us realize, even if only packing errors. If we're not keeping any
records of their appearance in sets, then how would we truly know?
4. Extra sticker sheets fit the definition of extra parts as well as
any other extra part does. They appear in some sets and not in others. Should
we base decisions on extra parts on anything other than the fact that they came
in a set and were extra? I don't believe so.
But, perhaps Marek and Randy can produce some guidelines for us on how extra
sticker sheets should be handled in set inventories considering the positions
we've outlined.
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