| Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh  | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2018 11:15 | | Subject: | Re: Part out value may not always be accurate | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, shovhans writes:
| | Dear bricklink development team,
Currently the "Part Out Value" page shows the value in average, which may not
be accurate if any seller posts an item with very high, or inaccurate price.
To better represent the part out value of a set, we need to add the following
additional metrics:
1. Standard deviation of the Average value shown
2. Median value
3. Breakdown list of all items with the above metrics for each item. Additionally
we would like to see the count for each item.
Thanks
shovhans
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Way too much attention is paid to average prices as it is. Just consider what
the average sold price is...
across markets/ countries
all stores big and small
stores that price fairly and those that charge add ons
all orders - single lot/ multiple lot
It is also dangerous to purchase based on part-out sold prices anyway as many
parts might have sold for an average prixe of X but in some cases there are many
100's of times of the part for sale than have ever sold!
Focusing on making the average "more accurate" is IMO a diversion and not a good
way of optimising inventory investment decisions. If it was just a mathematical
excercise to determine what to buy this place would be even more swamped with
inventory and prices would drop further.
I always vote no to these enhancements to averages for these reasons, I think
these average values mislead many.
Robert
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2018 10:50 | | Subject: | Re: Part out value may not always be accurate | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, shovhans writes:
| | Dear bricklink development team,
Currently the "Part Out Value" page shows the value in average, which may not
be accurate if any seller posts an item with very high, or inaccurate price.
To better represent the part out value of a set, we need to add the following
additional metrics:
1. Standard deviation of the Average value shown
2. Median value
3. Breakdown list of all items with the above metrics for each item. Additionally
we would like to see the count for each item.
Thanks
shovhans
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Whilst your suggestion is very good - nothing is being done by the development
team to the classic site whilst Bricklink eXpress is being developed. So it will
more than likely fall on 'deaf ears'. An awful lot more needs doing on
the entire part out process on this site. The part out log should not be just
a reminder of the date when you parted it out - it should contain full details
of the part out. You should also be able to see what the 'new lots' will
be from the first screen - we need more flexibility in the initial screen especially
with remarks fields, as well as seeing what we have the item listed as etc. etc.
Lots to do - nothing will get done. Shame really as it is a very important part
of the site.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2018 04:48 | | Subject: | Re: Part out value may not always be accurate | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, shovhans writes:
| | Dear bricklink development team,
Currently the "Part Out Value" page shows the value in average, which may not
be accurate if any seller posts an item with very high, or inaccurate price.
To better represent the part out value of a set, we need to add the following
additional metrics:
1. Standard deviation of the Average value shown
2. Median value
3. Breakdown list of all items with the above metrics for each item. Additionally
we would like to see the count for each item.
Thanks
shovhans
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If you need this information you can get it, you just need to do it part by part.
However, it is probably way too much information needed for most people when
considering purchasing a set to part out. You also miss one really important
thing, and that is the trend in the prices of the parts. New parts especially
can have a very misleading six month average, as they typically start high and
drop as more people buy the set and part it out. I found it was always better
to look at the expensive parts of a set first, and check whether those are realistic.
You can find those quickly by starting a part out but not completing it.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Nov 22, 2018 18:43 | | Subject: | Re: Part out value may not always be accurate | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, shovhans writes:
| | Dear bricklink development team,
Currently the "Part Out Value" page shows the value in average, which may not
be accurate if any seller posts an item with very high, or inaccurate price.
To better represent the part out value of a set, we need to add the following
additional metrics:
1. Standard deviation of the Average value shown
2. Median value
3. Breakdown list of all items with the above metrics for each item. Additionally
we would like to see the count for each item.
Thanks
shovhans
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It's not supposed to be a gold standard. It shows the average price of SOLD
items in the last 6 months and that's a pretty good guideline. It isn't
necessarily accurate to what you will get and it definitely isn't precise,
but it's a pretty good guideline.
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| Author: | shovhans | | Posted: | Nov 22, 2018 15:56 | | Subject: | Part out value may not always be accurate | | Viewed: | 130 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
| Dear bricklink development team,
Currently the "Part Out Value" page shows the value in average, which may not
be accurate if any seller posts an item with very high, or inaccurate price.
To better represent the part out value of a set, we need to add the following
additional metrics:
1. Standard deviation of the Average value shown
2. Median value
3. Breakdown list of all items with the above metrics for each item. Additionally
we would like to see the count for each item.
Thanks
shovhans
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| Author: | legomalego | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2018 19:36 | | Subject: | Re: Parts Look-up tool | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| Great idea!
In Suggestions, smlgraphics writes:
| | So we all have want lists, right?
Wouldn't it be cool to be able to take a want list and instead of looking
for stores that have all the individual parts, do a search against "sets" or
multiples of sets that have all the parts on a want list.
Everything needed to make this tool already exists on Bricklink.
Parts want list - check
Sets, parts inventory - check (the part out tool)
This function could be added to the Buy section like the distillers to get from
the fewest stores, or best price etc - add sets to buy that have all the parts.
Then a shopper could shop for complete sets to buy from sellers or determine
that they already have the sets in their own collection to build the MOC they
are shopping for pieces for.
Example: I bought the instructions for the UCS U-wing project by Mirko (Awesome
MOC by the way and beautiful instruction book)
uploaded the parts list 430 different parts 3300 pieces total.
I would love to know if I could buy 4-5 sets to get all the parts I need to build
the UCS U-wing project and the extra pieces could go in my collection. Certainly
there would be a handful of random special pieces to buy separately but it would
be cool to have the option of buying a few complete sets to get the majority
of the parts.
Just a thought and the development cost would be minimal since the hard parts
(set part inventories & want lists) already exist.
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| Author: | smlgraphics | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2018 16:00 | | Subject: | Parts Look-up tool | | Viewed: | 113 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
| So we all have want lists, right?
Wouldn't it be cool to be able to take a want list and instead of looking
for stores that have all the individual parts, do a search against "sets" or
multiples of sets that have all the parts on a want list.
Everything needed to make this tool already exists on Bricklink.
Parts want list - check
Sets, parts inventory - check (the part out tool)
This function could be added to the Buy section like the distillers to get from
the fewest stores, or best price etc - add sets to buy that have all the parts.
Then a shopper could shop for complete sets to buy from sellers or determine
that they already have the sets in their own collection to build the MOC they
are shopping for pieces for.
Example: I bought the instructions for the UCS U-wing project by Mirko (Awesome
MOC by the way and beautiful instruction book)
uploaded the parts list 430 different parts 3300 pieces total.
I would love to know if I could buy 4-5 sets to get all the parts I need to build
the UCS U-wing project and the extra pieces could go in my collection. Certainly
there would be a handful of random special pieces to buy separately but it would
be cool to have the option of buying a few complete sets to get the majority
of the parts.
Just a thought and the development cost would be minimal since the hard parts
(set part inventories & want lists) already exist.
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| Author: | Tech_M | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2018 00:28 | | Subject: | Re: Stud.io 2.0 Rendering: Full Color Background | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| | I just found a work around but its still a pain.... |
| Author: | Tech_M | | Posted: | Nov 18, 2018 22:50 | | Subject: | Re: Stud.io 2.0 Rendering: Full Color Background | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| I just noticed that my profile picture is a good example of how Stud.io 2.0 renders
things using the floor option, disregarding how compressed it is. So, view that
for reference... .
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| Author: | Tech_M | | Posted: | Nov 18, 2018 22:47 | | Subject: | Stud.io 2.0 Rendering: Full Color Background | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
| I find it extremely irritating that the two options for the background while
rendering are: No background (renders as a png of only the MOC) and Floor (sets
the floor to a color, the background is black or white depending on light
type, has the bricks reflect the color of the floor as well) Why can't we
have an option that is like floor, but fills the entire background with the selected
color?
Yes, I understand that one could just lay the PNG from no background over a solid
color, HOWEVER, the thing about floor is that the reflected light color being
tinted towards the floor color is really nice, and makes the model seem to glow
the color of the floor.
Additionally, I find it annoying that while picking a color for the floor, there
is not a way to see what color the floor will actually end up looking like after
being lit unless you start rendering.
My suggestions are:
–Add an option for rendering that functions like floor, but fills the entire
background with selected color/
–Add option to see what color the floor/background will actually end up being
once lit, or add an option to lock the floor/background from changing color due
to lighting.
I think these are very much needed especially the first one, the renderer is
slightly dysfunctional without it in my opinion, and there isn't a way to
manually fix it perfectly. The best you can do is smart crop the color of background
out and then the entire image over a solid color that matches the floor. However
this doesn't work if the floor color or the model is too close to the color
black, and even then it really doesn't look that good.
I would very much appreciate it if these changes were made, and I think others
would as well.
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