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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Oct 20, 2018 13:17
 Subject: Re: Alternate parts are what they are.
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In Inventories, tonnic writes:
  Thanks already for your quick response!
Ton

You're welcome! I work for you, you know.

Minifigure inventories, by the way, can't include alternate parts. Okay,
so here is what I did:

1. Every affected minifigure in both sets now include inventory notes.
2. Both sets now include inventory notes.
3. Both sets now include the other heads as alternates. This is a new approach
which Marek and I are trying out.

This should correct all the issues you raised.

Three of the four possible variants have been confirmed to have appeared, so
the fourth variant (black eyebrows, blocked stud: 3626bpb0628) is the only one
I added without having confirmation that it appeared in the sets. I think the
likelihood that this variant would have appeared in these very popular sets at
some point in their production run was high enough to include it.
 Author: tonnic View Messages Posted By tonnic
 Posted: Oct 20, 2018 12:48
 Subject: Re: Alternate parts are what they are.
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In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
  The big problem with E&D sets is that many of them have lengthy production runs,
resulting in all sorts of changes over time. It's not really practical to
create a new catalog entry for every change, so some compromises must be made
between an overstuffed catalog and an overstuffed inventory.

Give me a few minutes while I see what can be done with the inventories of these
two sets to make things better.

Thanks already for your quick response!
Ton
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Oct 20, 2018 12:38
 Subject: Re: Alternate parts are what they are.
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The big problem with E&D sets is that many of them have lengthy production runs,
resulting in all sorts of changes over time. It's not really practical to
create a new catalog entry for every change, so some compromises must be made
between an overstuffed catalog and an overstuffed inventory.

Give me a few minutes while I see what can be done with the inventories of these
two sets to make things better.
 Author: tonnic View Messages Posted By tonnic
 Posted: Oct 20, 2018 12:29
 Subject: Alternate parts are awful.
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I have 2 Lego education sets, 9348 and 9349.
In both sets the males have head 3626bpb0628 (head with black eyebrows) instead
of 3626bpb0121 (head with brown eyebrows).
In both sets the heads are not even with different eyebrows but also with stud
recessed instead of blocked open stud with triangle.

There is a note below the 22 minifigs of set 9348 regarding the two possible
different heads, not with the set 9349.
Also only a note below the list of 22 minifigs, NOT with the individual minifigs.
Eventhough the minifigs of set 9348 have a note regarding the black instead of
brown eyebrows I think this would not be enough, it does not show on a picture
or with the minifig inventory.
So it is very rudimentary in my opinion.

Although I have the minifigs in hands I do not have the possibility anymore to
upload the right minifigs due to the use of an iPad. Bricklink needs a code below
the minifig and parts, this cannot be done with an iPad.

Bricklink cadmin can make a note below set 9349 like with set 9348 but I think
this is not the real Bricklinkway.
If customers do not read the line below the 22 minifigs they might believe they
received the wrong minifig because inventory does not show the alternate head
and because the note regarding the different heads/eyebrows do not show at the
minifigure itself.

What can be done with this isue due to the lack of a laptop/computer?

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3626bpb0121&idColor=3#T=C&C=3
And
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=3626bpb0121#T=A


https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=9348-1&viewItemType=M
and
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=9349-1&viewItemType=M
 Author: Biglesdug View Messages Posted By Biglesdug
 Posted: Oct 17, 2018 14:23
 Subject: Re: Clone Turbo Tank Instructions version 7261-1
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In Help, mandr writes:
  It sounds like you now have the instructions you need. I'll just point out
that the 7261-2 uses 8 more of the pins with stop bush than the 7261-1. 4 of
them are accounted for in my previous pictures.

For the remaining ones, from my previous pictures, you could see 2 additional
black pins - these also end up being pins with the stop bush (Page 45 Step 8
to Page 49 Step 17).

Then lastly, Page 55-56, Step 7 to 11 is where the remaining pins with stop bush
are used differently.

I also think that there was a difference in the colour of the 4x4265c Tan versus
Yellow.

Thank you mandr for the pictures and helping me out.
I do now have the link to the instructions I am looking for.
 Author: mandr View Messages Posted By mandr
 Posted: Oct 17, 2018 14:11
 Subject: Re: Clone Turbo Tank Instructions version 7261-1
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It sounds like you now have the instructions you need. I'll just point out
that the 7261-2 uses 8 more of the pins with stop bush than the 7261-1. 4 of
them are accounted for in my previous pictures.

For the remaining ones, from my previous pictures, you could see 2 additional
black pins - these also end up being pins with the stop bush (Page 45 Step 8
to Page 49 Step 17).

Then lastly, Page 55-56, Step 7 to 11 is where the remaining pins with stop bush
are used differently.

I also think that there was a difference in the colour of the 4x4265c Tan versus
Yellow.
 Author: mandr View Messages Posted By mandr
 Posted: Oct 17, 2018 13:54
 Subject: Re: Clone Turbo Tank Instructions version 7261-1
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There are a number of places where Black pins are used instead of LBG:

a) Step 5 Page 22: 4 black plus 4 LBG INSTEAD of 8 LBG
b) Step 23 Page 30: 2 black plus 2 LBG INSTEAD of 4 LBG
c) Step 25 Page 32: 2 black plus 2 LBG INSTEAD of 4 LBG

Back to the original question, on Page 46 step 12: The way the two tan connectors
#1 connect to the assembly are different as per the pictures. One uses two black
pins, and the other uses two pins with stop bush. There is another difference
in the pictures, but
I'll look a bit further into it.
 


 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Oct 17, 2018 13:51
 Subject: Re: Clone Turbo Tank Instructions version 7261-1
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In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  In Help, mandr writes:
  If you can't find the online instructions, I might be able to help.

Here is the first place where the different pieces are used:

About page 17, Step 16, one set of instructions uses 10 black plus 4 LBG pins
whereas the other set of instructions uses instead 12 LBG pins and 2 black pins
with stop bush. See pictures, and I'll post pictures of the next difference
in a few minutes.

THANK YOU! if you don't mind post pictures that would be great!

Both versions of instructions are available from Brickset. Here is a list of
redesigned sets with info on where to find instructions:

https://brickset.com/sets/list-18333/page-3
 Author: Biglesdug View Messages Posted By Biglesdug
 Posted: Oct 17, 2018 13:44
 Subject: Re: Clone Turbo Tank Instructions version 7261-1
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In Help, mandr writes:
  If you can't find the online instructions, I might be able to help.

Here is the first place where the different pieces are used:

About page 17, Step 16, one set of instructions uses 10 black plus 4 LBG pins
whereas the other set of instructions uses instead 12 LBG pins and 2 black pins
with stop bush. See pictures, and I'll post pictures of the next difference
in a few minutes.

THANK YOU! if you don't mind post pictures that would be great!
 Author: mandr View Messages Posted By mandr
 Posted: Oct 17, 2018 13:25
 Subject: Re: Clone Turbo Tank Instructions version 7261-1
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If you can't find the online instructions, I might be able to help.

Here is the first place where the different pieces are used:

About page 17, Step 16, one set of instructions uses 10 black plus 4 LBG pins
whereas the other set of instructions uses instead 12 LBG pins and 2 black pins
with stop bush. See pictures, and I'll post pictures of the next difference
in a few minutes.
 


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