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 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 18:27
 Subject: Re: White brick with holes?
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In Catalog Identification, normann1974 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Stuart9 writes:
  Looks a little home made but unsure as it's not in front of me.

I didn't think of that, but that's probably it. The holes are a bit unevenly
positioned (maybe 1/10th of a mm, but it's clear by comparison).

Thanks.

/Jan

Well, I just thought about it some more. If it was a customized brick, what part
was it made from? I can't think of any.

BTW - It has "Pat. pend" in the bottom.

/Jan
 
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 18:21
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I've got a few unrelated bricks that have been customised.




In Catalog Identification, normann1974 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Stuart9 writes:
  Looks a little home made but unsure as it's not in front of me.

I didn't think of that, but that's probably it. The holes are a bit unevenly
positioned (maybe 1/10th of a mm, but it's clear by comparison).

Thanks.

/Jan
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 18:18
 Subject: Re: White brick with holes?
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In Catalog Identification, Stuart9 writes:
  Looks a little home made but unsure as it's not in front of me.

I didn't think of that, but that's probably it. The holes are a bit unevenly
positioned (maybe 1/10th of a mm, but it's clear by comparison).

Thanks.

/Jan
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 18:17
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That's what I saw, looks a little odd.





In Catalog Identification, normann1974 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog Identification, normann1974 writes:
  I found this in my spare parts. Which part is it? It seems not to neither
 
Part No: 3709a  Name: Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides
* 
3709a Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides
Parts: Technic, Brick
or
 
Part No: 3709c  Name: Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides - Solid Studs
* 
3709c Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides - Solid Studs
Parts: Technic, Brick
.

Why not 3709c?

Because 3709c is made from two parts (notice the line in the picture), and it
doesn't exist in white.

/Jan
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 18:16
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In Catalog Identification, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog Identification, normann1974 writes:
  I found this in my spare parts. Which part is it? It seems not to neither
 
Part No: 3709a  Name: Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides
* 
3709a Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides
Parts: Technic, Brick
or
 
Part No: 3709c  Name: Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides - Solid Studs
* 
3709c Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides - Solid Studs
Parts: Technic, Brick
.

Why not 3709c?

Because 3709c is made from two parts (notice the line in the picture), and it
doesn't exist in white.

/Jan
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 18:07
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Looks a little home made but unsure as it's not in front of me.





In Catalog Identification, normann1974 writes:
  I found this in my spare parts. Which part is it? It seems not to neither
 
Part No: 3709a  Name: Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides
* 
3709a Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides
Parts: Technic, Brick
or
 
Part No: 3709c  Name: Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides - Solid Studs
* 
3709c Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides - Solid Studs
Parts: Technic, Brick
.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 17:55
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In Catalog Identification, normann1974 writes:
  I found this in my spare parts. Which part is it? It seems not to neither
 
Part No: 3709a  Name: Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides
* 
3709a Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides
Parts: Technic, Brick
or
 
Part No: 3709c  Name: Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides - Solid Studs
* 
3709c Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides - Solid Studs
Parts: Technic, Brick
.

Why not 3709c?
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 17:46
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I found this in my spare parts. Which part is it? It seems not to neither
 
Part No: 3709a  Name: Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides
* 
3709a Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides
Parts: Technic, Brick
or
 
Part No: 3709c  Name: Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides - Solid Studs
* 
3709c Technic, Brick 2 x 4 with Holes on All Sides - Solid Studs
Parts: Technic, Brick
.
 
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 17:39
 Subject: Re: Alternate Version of set 6386
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In Inventories, elias3 writes:
  strange, the '99' only viewable on this page:

  on this page I get the '1':

  the other MID are also different

  a glitch?

This is a bug on the newer inventory page which was reported some time ago.
 Author: jenso View Messages Posted By jenso
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 16:33
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Minifig ac015
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Minifig No: ac015  Name: Alien Defense Unit Soldier 1 - Dark Azure Hips
* 
ac015 (Inv) Alien Defense Unit Soldier 1 - Dark Azure Hips
Minifigures: Space: Alien Conquest

* Add 1 Part 3626bpb0583 (Not Applicable) Minifig, Head Dual Sided Glasses with Orange Lenses, Smile / Mouth Open Upset Pattern - Blocked Open Stud

Comments from Submitter:
The figure I have comes with this head that has a blocked open stud (alternate item). So there are versions with head 3626bpb0583 and versions with head 3626cpb0583.
 Author: Cheshire554 View Messages Posted By Cheshire554
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 12:15
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 1689-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 1689  Name: Zoo Babies Bucket
* 
1689-1 (Inv) Zoo Babies Bucket
39 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1991
Sets: DUPLO: Basic Set

* Delete 1 Minifig 4555pb133 Duplo Figure, Female Zoo, Green Legs, Yellow Top with Green Overalls, Dark Orange Hair (Zoo Keeper)
* Add 1 Minifig 4555pb023 Duplo Figure, Female Zoo, Green Legs, Green Uniform, Yellow Hair (Zoo Keeper)

Comments from Submitter:
The female minifigure is wrong.
 Author: elias3 View Messages Posted By elias3
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 12:10
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 8486-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8486  Name: Mack's Team Truck
* 
8486-1 (Inv) Mack's Team Truck
341 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2011
Sets: Cars: Cars 2

* Change 6 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)} {match ID 6 to 6}
* Change 1 Part Red {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud / Hollow Stud}
* Change 3 Part Red {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}

Comments from Submitter:
checking Cars sets, own collection, never mixed with other sets.
 Author: dluders View Messages Posted By dluders
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 10:13
 Subject: Re: Pneumatic hose length catalog vs instructions
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I think it's better to go with the longer length. If it turns out (after
you build the model) that the hose is too long, you can always cut it shorter.
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 08:18
 Subject: Re: Alternate Version of set 6386
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In Inventories, elias3 writes:
  In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories, David892 writes:
  So I spent another hour trying to figure this out and I finally found out
that my instructions were different!
. For the same set, my instructions were
telling me to use different pieces.

What is the part number printed on your copy of the set instructions? You will
find this on the front page at the lower right-hand corner of the complete set
image. Please post a photo or scan of this portion of the instructions showing
the number.

  My question to ou guys is how can we document this? And is this something that
you guys see all the time with older LEGO sets?

It has been documented. The set inventory has been updated with the changes
you found and an inventory note was added. And yes, it's not too terribly
uncommon. There are over 100 known sets from as recently as last year which
have been redesigned for various reasons while the set was still in production.

I have asked for BrickLink to give us the ability to find these sets in the catalog.
So far, though, nothing has happened with my request.


Hi Robert

strange, the '99' only viewable on this page:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=6386-1
on this page I get the '1':
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=6386-1#T=I
the other MID are also different

a glitch?


Stefaan

Interesting looks like in all inventories where "99" MID is used in this new
inventory page is is change to "1" MID. Checked only few from this list
https://brickset.com/sets/list-18333 for example
 
Set No: 75072  Name: ARC-170 Starfighter
* 
75072-1 (Inv) ARC-170 Starfighter
91 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2015
Sets: Star Wars: Microfighters Series 2: Star Wars Episode 3
 
Set No: 75101  Name: First Order Special Forces TIE Fighter
* 
75101-1 (Inv) First Order Special Forces TIE Fighter
501 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2015
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 7
 
Set No: 75882  Name: Ferrari FXX K & Development Center
* 
75882-1 (Inv) Ferrari FXX K & Development Center
476 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2017
Sets: SPEED CHAMPIONS
 
Set No: 31070  Name: Turbo Track Racer
* 
31070-1 (Inv) Turbo Track Racer
664 Parts, 2017
Sets: Creator: Model: Traffic
The same sitation as you described it.
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 08:13
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In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  How can we be certain this is a genuine variant taken from a new set & not a
used minifig with a head thats been handled & had the chin dimple wiped off?


Agreed especially that these early head can vary in pattern, the best example
is:
 
Part No: 3626bps8  Name: Minifigure, Head Alien with SW Darth Maul, Red Face Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bps8 Minifigure, Head Alien with SW Darth Maul, Red Face Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head

btw this head
 
Part No: 3626bps2  Name: Minifigure, Head Male SW Brown Eyebrows and Chin Dimple Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bps2 Minifigure, Head Male SW Brown Eyebrows and Chin Dimple Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
occur in 6 minifigs so it would not only be in sw024

Here is another variant of print for this head
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=978216


So there are more than one variation of print for it
 Author: grimsbricksuk View Messages Posted By grimsbricksuk
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 07:54
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How can we be certain this is a genuine variant taken from a new set & not a
used minifig with a head thats been handled & had the chin dimple wiped off?

In Catalog, goldknight writes:
  When will this minifig be approved?
 Author: vj_lante View Messages Posted By vj_lante
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 07:52
 Subject: Pneumatic hose length catalog vs instructions
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I'm putting togther a vintage Technic Set 8862 Backhoe. I was about to cut
the hose to length, according to the Bricklink catalog counterparts section,
when I noticed that the lengths of the longer pieces are different in my instuctions.
Why the discrepancy, please? I'm thinking it is better to stick with the
instructions? Thanks.
 
 Author: elias3 View Messages Posted By elias3
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 07:02
 Subject: Re: Alternate Version of set 6386
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In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories, David892 writes:
  So I spent another hour trying to figure this out and I finally found out
that my instructions were different!
. For the same set, my instructions were
telling me to use different pieces.

What is the part number printed on your copy of the set instructions? You will
find this on the front page at the lower right-hand corner of the complete set
image. Please post a photo or scan of this portion of the instructions showing
the number.

  My question to ou guys is how can we document this? And is this something that
you guys see all the time with older LEGO sets?

It has been documented. The set inventory has been updated with the changes
you found and an inventory note was added. And yes, it's not too terribly
uncommon. There are over 100 known sets from as recently as last year which
have been redesigned for various reasons while the set was still in production.

I have asked for BrickLink to give us the ability to find these sets in the catalog.
So far, though, nothing has happened with my request.


Hi Robert

strange, the '99' only viewable on this page:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=6386-1
on this page I get the '1':
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=6386-1#T=I
the other MID are also different

a glitch?


Stefaan
 Author: elias3 View Messages Posted By elias3
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 06:53
 Subject: Re: Alternate Version of set 6386
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In Inventories, David892 writes:
  Good evening and thanks for the fast reply!

The number at the bottom right corner is 120499. See attached picture.

Great job on documenting the variation!

Hi

Good found!
unfortunately, both versions have the same instructions code

Version on Peeron with the same code '120499':
http://peeron.com/scans/6386-1/1
http://peeron.com/scans/6386-1/3



Stefaan
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 06:27
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In Inventories Requests, AnneOL writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 5941  Name: Riding School
* 
5941-1 (Inv) Riding School
170 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2004
Sets: Belville: Recreation

* Change 8 Part {Medium Lime to Green} 4073 Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side

Part 4073 in green is in this inventory. Check alternate section (MID 4)
Plate 4073 in medium lime has alternate in green or lime. So in this set this
part was spotted in three colors in different variants of this set.

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