| Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | RobErNat  | | Posted: | May 10, 2018 05:54 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 529-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | * Change {4 to 6} Part Blue 3437 Duplo, Brick 2 x 2
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This one is incorrect. The part count should remain at 4.
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Still wrong. It should go up to five. Clearly I should've studied this
box more carefully before making change requests.
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It is good to be carefull and doublecheck things and try to be as accurate as
possible, yet, in a case like this, without actual content or at least a good
view on the content, I do not think it is/was wise to confirm accuracy of the
set based on just the images of the box.
Cheers, Eric
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | May 10, 2018 05:03 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 529-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| B. False
In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 3664 Blue Duplo, Brick 2 x 2 x 2 Curved Top
* Change {6 to 5} Part Yellow 3437 Duplo, Brick 2 x 2
* Change {4 to 3} Part Green 3011 Duplo, Brick 2 x 4
* Change {1 to 3} Part Green 3437 Duplo, Brick 2 x 2
* Change {4 to 6} Part Blue 3437 Duplo, Brick 2 x 2
Comments from Submitter:
My great-aunt bought me this set for my 8th birthday.
A. True
B. False
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | May 10, 2018 05:01 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7817-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| There are few things that I have to write about, but it may get long so let me
write with a couple of comments.
| | Sorry, but your tradition argument doesn't hold much weight, especially considering
the large amount of significant changes to policies and inventories in the last
six months.
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What I am talking about is the way you (admins) want to accept inventories. This
has not changed at all, even if we have complained. We want to correct and improve
inventories so why you set some ways to what should be accepted and what not.
These things are set to have the correct inventories, so this is the goal. Now
it seems to me that your goal is to follow these rules and not to correct inventories.
All I hear is
| | The best way, and I know you'll agree with me on this, is finding the correct
variants in sealed sets or sealed set bags and/or finding sets which have been
built once by known, reliable sources and then remained undisturbed
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We have tried to follow and obey the rules as far as we could. Six months ago
I thought that you might not be sure about me and what I know about these sets.
So I tried to get along with your ways. These are really good and correct ways
but these train sets were released 30 years ago. What if we were living in 2050?
Were you still trying to find images of sealed sets? Maybe we need to find other
ways too.
It has been few months that I believe the hollowed hinges were released since
1985 and the sets 7735, 7745,... and 7817. Would you accept if I submitted the
inventory change request along with something like "I checked many listing of
these sets. Few of these trains that were for sale came with motor produced in
1985 or late 1984 so those were the earliest release of these sets and therefore
these data shows that the hollowed hinges came in earliest releases of these
sets".
I bet you wouldn't. We were lucky that I found a sealed set with motor dated
45 4 (45th week in 1984) and submitted a massive change of inventory for 7745
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1086776
Believe me. I knew what parts were in that copy of 7745 before receiving the
photos. The only things I didn't know were the type of conducting rails (with
or without reinforcements?) and the type of bricks 3001, 3002 and 3003.
I also knew all other inventory change requests many weeks and months before
I submitted them because I didn't have photos.
So, maybe you can trust the way we discovered these facts.
| | Going the best way route will mean incontrovertible evidence which it will never
again be necessary to change. It will also mean less bickering (26 messages
in this thread so far).
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26 messages is worth it, even 200 message. You are in your position for six months.
I am sure you expect to correct the inventory of many vintage sets. Now Please
check the log of completed changes for the big 12v trains 7710, 7715,...,7760:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=7710-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=7715-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=7720-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=7722-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
.......
Until 2015 there were no signifacant improvement in their inventory(only adding
stickerred doors, correcting the quantity of few parts,...). Then Morris (lego.12vtrains)
started to correct them in 2015 and made some significant/important changes.
Now, during your 6 months of work in your position, the inventory of these 13
big train sets are almost correct. Here is the summary:
7710: done
7715: done
7720: battery wagon should be split as the contact holes changed
7722: done (the issue of solid hinges needs more investigation)
7725: done (motor bb12va should be added?)
7727: done
7730: cones and white small windows
7735: done
7740: done
7745: almost
7750: almost
7755: done
7760: done (the issue of motor type 3 needs more investigation)
12v trains and other supplemental sets for them are about one third of all sets
in 1980 and among the most collectible ones. So I think this is kind of a accomplishment
and 26 messages or even more is a small price to pay for this accomplishment.
That's where we disagree somewhat. Your "better way" involves two methods:
(a) checking large numbers of used sets for sale and drawing conclusions based
on statistical likelihood, and (b) basing part appearances on years of release.
Actually no! I don't consider part (b) as an evidence otherwise I would have
added many parts as alternative to 7750 (like motor bb12vb, white light bricks
with 3 contact holes,...) Part appearance and other things only gave me an idea
of what to expect. Once I got an idea on what is needed for investigation and
what to be expected, then I checked large number of items for sale of that particular
set in order to check the issues that I had already listed in an excel file.
So far, I found reliable photos (of sealed or MISB sets) for some of those issues
and I did not get a result different than what I (and Morris and Chris) expected.
Things get blocked for sets such as 7730, 7817,... or older sets before 1980.
I also wrote another message in which I suggested that BL spend some money for
correcting the vintage sets, once for ever.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1089547
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | May 10, 2018 04:28 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 529-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | * Change {4 to 6} Part Blue 3437 Duplo, Brick 2 x 2
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This one is incorrect. The part count should remain at 4.
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Still wrong. It should go up to five. Clearly I should've studied this
box more carefully before making change requests.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | May 10, 2018 04:25 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 529-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | * Change {4 to 6} Part Blue 3437 Duplo, Brick 2 x 2
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This one is incorrect. The part count should remain at 4. It looks like the
red 2 x 2 brick count should e 7, though, instead of 6. The total part count
should be 40 based on all the parts seen on the front of the box.
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