BrickLink Discussion Forum

Author:

Jan_K

Posted:

Feb 16, 2017 09:38

Subject:

Re: Stoplist

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In Suggestions, Macaronis writes:

In Suggestions, TakeAbricK writes:

I would like to have implemented that members that are stoplisted by me
- would also not be able to send me messages
- would also not be able to enter my store

If I remember it right, this is how it was before.
Today I received another request to unblock a member. I don't want messages
from member I stoplisted, for they are stoplisted for a very good reason.

I am stoplisted by some sellers I never had any transaction with, not as seller,
not as a buyer. It's very annoying when I spend a lot of time searching for
parts and fill my shopping cart and then get the message that I can't buy
from this seller.

Diana

Use the least favorite store option and it solves your problem...

No, it does not (not for me and for sure not for the OP either):

- I can access the store that's on my stop list, all I get is a very(!) tiny
"thumbs down" (facebook lookalike) symbol in the tob bar, next to the "Favorite
Stores" pulldown menu.

- I can access the store from the price guide* and there's no way to exclude
least favorite stores from the price guide (only listings flagged as "incomplete"
can be filtered)

- The first time I get an obvious indication that I'm trying to shop in a
store that blocked me is when I open my shopping basket/cart: "Seller Refuses
Service".

That's WAY to late - and it has been much better before the site update:

I could not even browse a store that blocked me, and on top I got a brick wall
symbol in the ID card of every seller that blocked me(instead of the green/red
box indicating if the seller ships to my country or not).

That's clearly worsening the buying experience - period.

Jan

*P.S.: IMHO, the filter option for the search function should be applied to the
price guide as well - many users (like me) are starting with the price guide
when shopping, not with the search function.

Author:

StormChaser

Posted:

Feb 16, 2017 08:33

Subject:

Inventory Change Request for Set 9899-1

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Topic:

Status:

Open

Please make changes to the following inventory:

9899-1 (Inv) Hubs and Tires
20 Parts, 1998
Sets: Educational & Dacta: Service Packs: Technic

* Add 2 Part 3482c01 Light Gray Wheel with Split Axle hole, with Black Tire Offset Tread (3482 / 3483)
* Add 4 Part 3482c02 Light Gray Wheel with Split Axle hole, with Black Tire 30 x 10.5 Offset Tread (3482 / 2346)

Author:

StormChaser

Posted:

Feb 16, 2017 08:10

Subject:

Inventory Change Request for Set 9838-1

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Topic:

Status:

Open

Please make changes to the following inventory:

9838-1 (Inv) Gears For Primary Simple Machines (Gears For Primary T&B)
7 Parts, 1998
Sets: Educational & Dacta: Service Packs: DUPLO

* Change {1 to 2} Part Red 6529 Duplo Technic Gear 4 x 4

Comments from Submitter:
See image. E&D catalog from 1998 has same image showing 2 gears.

Author:

spwilson13

Posted:

Feb 16, 2017 08:05

Subject:

Re: Stoplist

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In Suggestions, TakeAbricK writes:

It hasn't worked in 18 months...I am stoplisted by some but I can send them
messages and go into their stores.

Author:

StormChaser

Posted:

Feb 16, 2017 07:22

Subject:

Inventory Change Request for Set 9654-1

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Topic:

Status:

Open

Please make changes to the following inventory:

9654-1 (Inv) Early Simple Machines II (Primary Simple Machines Set)
97 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 13 Books, 3 Gear, 1998
Sets: Educational & Dacta: DUPLO: Learning

* Add 1 Book 4217175 Set 9654 Activity Card 1
* Add 1 Book 4217176 Set 9654 Activity Card 2
* Add 1 Book 4217177 Set 9654 Activity Card 3
* Add 1 Book 4217178 Set 9654 Activity Card 4
* Add 1 Book 4217179 Set 9654 Activity Card 5
* Add 1 Book 4217180 Set 9654 Activity Card 6
* Add 1 Book 4217181 Set 9654 Activity Card 7
* Add 1 Book 4217182 Set 9654 Activity Card 8
* Add 1 Book 4217183 Set 9654 Activity Card 9
* Add 1 Book 4217184 Set 9654 Activity Card 10
* Add 1 Book 4217185 Set 9654 Activity Card 11
* Add 1 Book 4217188 Set 9654 Activity Card 12

Author:

viejos

Posted:

Feb 16, 2017 00:31

Subject:

Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 853-1

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In Inventories Requests, CrazyChris writes:

That's useful Information. Could you put it (text+pictures) into a downloadable
PDF document?

I may very well do that, though I hate to commit to anything and then never get
it finished. The one issue with the pdf that kept me from using it exclusively
is that the photos are not great. I linked to photos in this thread because they
were too large to add to the post, but yet I wanted people to examine the scans
as closely as I have.

Author:

viejos

Posted:

Feb 16, 2017 00:16

Subject:

Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 853-1

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In Inventories Requests, jancg writes:

viejos,

My parents brought home an 853 from their trip to the USA. Apparently the 853
has also been sold in the USA! According to your pictures it was an 'early
production' version. I got it for my birthday 1st of may 1977.

It also had the sheet for improved steering unit, but the box lacked the parts
needed. Also the instructions showed the 3 extra blue 1x2 plates for the engine,
but again the box lacked the parts. Also, even for my present building skills,
the building steps for the engine are just plain wrong: it can't be built
like pictured. The instructions were the fold-out poster version.

Still, the 850, 851 and 853 were my first technic sets and really got enthusiastic
for Lego Technic.

Jan.

The engine is certainly the oldest part of the model, and I do believe it underwent
changes over time. There is evidence to suggest it was designed after the 1 x
6 plate was created, but before the 1 x 4 plate. Hence the use of so many 1 x
2 plates.

Alternatively, the front of the engine could have originally had a 2 x 4 brick
instead of the fan rotor assembly. Hard to tell without some firsthand information
from TLG.

I've built the motor several times from the early instructions, and I have
2 copies of them. So I don't know what to say about the difficulties you
are experiencing. The construction is identical to that shown in the A4 booklet
instructions, but the booklet has step inventories and things are spread out
a bit more. So maybe you should try building with those instructions (available
on Peeron or Brickfactory) and see how it turns out.

Russell

Author:

viejos

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 21:29

Subject:

Inventory Change Request for Set 911-1

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Topic:

Status:

Open

Please make changes to the following inventory:

911-1 (Inv) Universal Building Set
369 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1976
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set

* Delete 2 Part 3004 Black Brick 1 x 2

Comments from Submitter:
These two bricks never came in the set. They are actually the minifigure legs which are placed behind the torso in a couple of models.

Author:

jennnifer

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 18:52

Subject:

Inventory Change Request for Set 70627-1

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Topic:

Status:

Open

Please make changes to the following inventory:

70627-1 (Inv) Dragon's Forge
1110 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 2017
Sets: NINJAGO: The Hands of Time

* Add 1 Part 30145pb018 Light Bluish Gray Brick 2 x 2 x 3 with Red and Dark Azure Flames, Red and Dark Azure Waves, Gray Dragon, Lion and Pheonix On All Sides Pattern (Stickers) - Set 70627 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 15068pb104 Red Slope, Curved 2 x 2 No Studs with Pearl Dark Gray Armor with Rivets, Scratches and Torn Edge Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70627 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3069bpb553 Red Tile 1 x 2 with Ninjago Game Card with Red Samurai X Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70627 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3069bpb552 Black Tile 1 x 2 with Pearl Dark Gray Chain Mail and Clock Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70627 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3068bpb1060 Red Tile 2 x 2 with Pearl Dark Gray Armor with Rivets and Red Snake Tail Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70627 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 87079pb387 Dark Orange Tile 2 x 4 with Black and Dark Azure Oriental Rug with Black and Red Spatters Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70627 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 87079pb386 Light Bluish Gray Tile 2 x 4 with Metal Lid with Scratches and Blacksmith Emblem Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70627 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 30350bpb043 Red Tile, Modified 2 x 3 with 2 Clips with Airjitzu Asian Character Symbol for Kai on White Sign with Black Border Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70627 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 30350bpb044 Red Tile, Modified 2 x 3 with 2 Clips with Airjitzu Asian Character Symbol for Nya on White Sign with Black Border Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70627 (Counterpart)

Author:

leopard37

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 16:13

Subject:

Re: In My Inventory Qty w/Link

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Topic:

Brickwilbo,

You just changed my life! Thank you!

Tyson.

In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:

In Suggestions, RoswellGinny writes:

Already exist: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogOptions.asp?viewFrom=P

I feel like I spend forever digging
around on the site to find a part and then spend an equal amount of time trying
to find that part in my inventory if I don't know the part # off the top
of my head to enter into the search bar. It would be one more shortcut to allow
easier usability.

Author:

jennnifer

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 15:19

Subject:

Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 70906-1

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Hello,
The BrickLink names for these rubber bands are very misleading. Lego lists part
70905 in this set which is our x90. Please measure the part you found. Is the
diameter closer to 26mm or 33mm?

Thanks!
Jen

In Inventories Requests, ldwhnfk writes:

Please make changes to the following inventory:

70906-1 (Inv) The Joker Notorious Lowrider
416 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2017
Sets: Super Heroes: The LEGO Batman Movie

* Add 4 Part x89 Yellow Rubber Belt Large (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 4 x 4
* Delete 4 Part x90 Yellow Rubber Belt Extra Large (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 5 x 5

Comments from Submitter:
The rubber belt in this set is a x89 not a x90.

Author:

Macaronis

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 15:04

Subject:

Re: Stoplist

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In Suggestions, TakeAbricK writes:

In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:

In Suggestions, TakeAbricK writes:

You can't stop someone from logging out and going into your store, so they
can get in no matter what. Being able to send messages from a block account
is a new one though.

I don't have any problems with stoplisted members visiting my store. But
as a buyer I want to know that I'm stoplisted by a seller before I go shopping
in that store. It's not as urgent as my second suggestion, but believe it
or not. There's this seller that Always pops up when I'm looking for
certain parts and after I filled my cart, Bricklink says that I can't buy
from this seller. I'm stoplisted and I don't know why, because I never
bought from nor sold to this member. Like I said, it's not that urgent, but
before it was like this, so changing it to the way it used to be, wouldn't
be that difficult imo.

That definitely wasn't like that before.

Use the least favorite store option and it solves your problem...

Author:

Miffy.

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 14:43

Subject:

Re: Stoplist

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In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:

In Suggestions, Miffy. writes:

See pic (attached). I believe this is the setting you are looking for.

Miffy.

http://www.bricklink.com/searchSettings.asp?viewFrom=P

Yes! Thanks! I dunno what happened to my image.

Author:

Brickwilbo

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 14:35

Subject:

Re: Notes & favorites

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Topic:

In Suggestions, TakeAbricK writes:

I would like to see a visable small banner when I visit a store of a member who
has a note from my side.

Or Icon, strange that notes aren't shown anywhere.

I also would like to see a bigger icon for stores that
are marked as least favorite.

Why should it be clearer than it already is?

Diana

Author:

Brickwilbo

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 14:27

Subject:

Re: In My Inventory Qty w/Link

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Topic:

In Suggestions, RoswellGinny writes:

Already exist: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogOptions.asp?viewFrom=P

Author:

Brickwilbo

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 14:21

Subject:

Re: Stoplist

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Topic:

http://www.bricklink.com/searchSettings.asp?viewFrom=P

In Suggestions, Miffy. writes:

See pic (attached). I believe this is the setting you are looking for.

Miffy.

Author:

Miffy.

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 14:16

Subject:

Re: Stoplist

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Topic:

See pic (attached). I believe this is the setting you are looking for.

Miffy.

In Suggestions, TakeAbricK writes:

In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:

In Suggestions, TakeAbricK writes:

You can't stop someone from logging out and going into your store, so they
can get in no matter what. Being able to send messages from a block account
is a new one though.

That definitely wasn't like that before.

Author:

WildBricks

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 14:10

Subject:

In My Inventory Qty w/Link

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Topic:

Status:

Already Exists

(If this has been previously suggested, please forgive me repeating it, but my
very brief skimming of the suggestions page didn't find anything similar.)

On an Item's Catalog page I would like to see not just an Add to My Inventory
link, but a My CURRENT Inventory Qty (w/Link). I feel like I spend forever digging
around on the site to find a part and then spend an equal amount of time trying
to find that part in my inventory if I don't know the part # off the top
of my head to enter into the search bar. It would be one more shortcut to allow
easier usability.

Author:

TakeAbricK

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 13:52

Subject:

Re: Stoplist

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Topic:

In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:

In Suggestions, TakeAbricK writes:

You can't stop someone from logging out and going into your store, so they
can get in no matter what. Being able to send messages from a block account
is a new one though.

That definitely wasn't like that before.

Author:

Brettj666

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 13:41

Subject:

Re: Stoplist

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Topic:

In Suggestions, TakeAbricK writes:

You can't stop someone from logging out and going into your store, so they
can get in no matter what. Being able to send messages from a block account
is a new one though.

That definitely wasn't like that before.

Author:

TakeAbricK

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 13:36

Subject:

Stoplist

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Topic:

Status:

Already Exists

Author:

jennnifer

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 12:52

Subject:

Inventory Change Request for Set 70626-1

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Topic:

Status:

Open

Please make changes to the following inventory:

70626-1 (Inv) Dawn of Iron Doom
674 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 2017
Sets: NINJAGO: The Hands of Time

* Add 1 Part 2335pb163 Red Flag 2 x 2 Square with Yellow Gear and 2 Snakes on Red Background and Black Ripped Edge on Both Sides Pattern (Stickers) - Set 70626 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 2335pb162 Red Flag 2 x 2 Square with Yellow Gear on Red Background and Black Ripped Edge on Both Sides Pattern (Stickers) - Set 70626 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 11477pb044 Dark Bluish Gray Slope, Curved 2 x 1 No Studs with Panel with Red Box, Yellow Box with Clock, and Circle with Propeller Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70626 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 11477pb043 Dark Bluish Gray Slope, Curved 2 x 1 No Studs with Panel with White Clock, and 2 Yellow Boxes with Arrows Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70626 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 30350bpb042 Red Tile, Modified 2 x 3 with 2 Clips with Pearl Dark Gray Armor with Rivets and 2 Red Snakes Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70626 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 47753pb070 Red Wedge 4 x 4 No Top Studs with Pearl Dark Gray Armor with Rivets and 4 Red Snakes Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70626 (Counterpart)

Author:

ldwhnfk

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 10:35

Subject:

Inventory Change Request for Set 70906-1

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Topic:

Status:

Open

Please make changes to the following inventory:

70906-1 (Inv) The Joker Notorious Lowrider
416 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2017
Sets: Super Heroes: The LEGO Batman Movie

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 10:32

Subject:

Re: Expanding Bricklink towards Playmobil

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Topic:

We even have our
own sets/parts database at playmodb.org
But this community lacks a global and well-organized marketplace like Bricklink.
So why not expand? It would be a bit of work from the Bricklink team's part,
but adapting Bricklink's framework to Playmobil products should be doable,
especially if you use the playmodb database which would spare you quite some
trouble.

I'm not sure they have what they need in terms of the catalogue. Are the
community willing to give up this catalogue to a commercial organisation, for
them to shut off access to it by anyone else that wants to use it commercially?
One of the first things BL owners did when buying BL was to lock down the catalogue.

Author:

CrazyChris

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 10:31

Subject:

Re: Expanding Bricklink towards Playmobil

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Topic:

Maybe you meant to use the Bricklink "engine" for other brands (e.g. Playmobil),
but not necessarily Bricklink itself.

Author:

Shahennian

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 10:14

Subject:

Re: Expanding Bricklink towards Playmobil

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Topic:

I agree completely with all of you, my suggestion is just a suggestion, it doesn't
have to be implemented tomorrow.
Bricklink works very well for me so I don't really see what you want to improve,
but I don't use this website that much and I understand it's not perfect.
Thanks for your input!

In Suggestions, WoutR writes:

In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:

In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:

In Suggestions, FauconRoyal writes:

Here is my suggestion: why not expand Bricklink towards Playmobil products?

How about getting BrickLink right before going off in other directions?

Not necessarily a bad idea, although I would have no interest in off-brand collectibles
and anything other than LEGO should be marketed on a completely different website.

More than agreed +++++

I agree.

Currently (and in my opinion) here is not enough customer support to get this
site working properly. If they would have to divide attention to several subsites,
then customer support would be even more understaffed and overloaded.

I think I proposed blocklink in the past

Author:

jennnifer

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 10:12

Subject:

Inventory Change Request for Set 76044-1

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Topic:

Status:

Open

Please make changes to the following inventory:

76044-1 (Inv) Clash of the Heroes
81 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2016
Sets: Super Heroes: Dawn of Justice

* Add 1 Part 3039pb104 Black Slope 45 2 x 2 with Digital Screen with Superman, Lines, Boxes, Exclamation Point and Kryptonite Pattern (Sticker) - Set 76044 (Counterpart)

Author:

jancg

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 10:06

Subject:

Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 853-1

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Author:

CrazyChris

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 09:37

Subject:

Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 853-1

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Topic:

That's useful Information. Could you put it (text+pictures) into a downloadable
PDF document?

Author:

bb435104

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 06:40

Subject:

Inventory Change Request for Set 6111-1

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Topic:

Status:

Open

Please make changes to the following inventory:

6111-1 (Inv) Street Chase
198 Parts, 2006
Sets: Racers: Tiny Turbos

* Change 1 Part Black 3710 Plate 1 x 4 {Extra to Regular}
* Change {6 to 7} Part Black 6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole

Comments from Submitter:
According to building instructions

Author:

WoutR

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 06:23

Subject:

Re: Expanding Bricklink towards Playmobil

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Topic:

In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:

In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:

In Suggestions, FauconRoyal writes:

Here is my suggestion: why not expand Bricklink towards Playmobil products?

More than agreed +++++

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 05:02

Subject:

Re: Expanding Bricklink towards Playmobil

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Topic:

In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:

In Suggestions, FauconRoyal writes:

Here is my suggestion: why not expand Bricklink towards Playmobil products?

More than agreed +++++

Author:

StormChaser

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 04:27

Subject:

Re: Expanding Bricklink towards Playmobil

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Topic:

In Suggestions, FauconRoyal writes:

Here is my suggestion: why not expand Bricklink towards Playmobil products?

Author:

ZwarteMagica

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 01:34

Subject:

Inventory Change Request for Set 7046-1

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Topic:

Status:

Open

Please make changes to the following inventory:

7046-1 (Inv) Fire Command Craft
257 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2004
Sets: Town: World City: Fire

* Add 1 Part 3009pb203L Red Brick 1 x 6 with White Stripes and 'FIRE' Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 7046 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3009pb203R Red Brick 1 x 6 with White Stripes and 'FIRE' Pattern Model Right Side (Sticker) - Set 7046 (Counterpart)

Author:

ZwarteMagica

Posted:

Feb 15, 2017 01:33

Subject:

Inventory Change Request for Set 8068-1

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Topic:

Status:

Open

Please make changes to the following inventory:

8068-1 (Inv) Rescue Helicopter
408 Parts, 2011
Sets: Technic: Model: Airport

* Add 1 Part 6636pb145 Black Tile 1 x 6 with Airplane Controls Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8068 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3069bpb550 Black Tile 1 x 2 with Airplane Controls Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8068 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 64393pb029 White Technic, Panel Fairing # 6 Long Smooth, Side B 'LK-8068' and Air Intake Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8068 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 64681pb029 White Technic, Panel Fairing # 5 Long Smooth, Side A with 'LK-8068' and Air Intake Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8068 (Counterpart)

Author:

viejos

Posted:

Feb 14, 2017 22:37

Subject:

Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 853-1

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In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:

Please make changes to the following inventory:

853-1 (Inv) Auto Chassis
602 Parts, 1977
Sets: Technic: Expert Builder

* Add 7 Part 3704 Black Technic, Axle 2 (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 14 Part 3705 Black Technic, Axle 4 (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 18 Part 3713 Light Gray Technic Bush (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 41 Part 3673 Light Gray Technic, Pin without Friction Ridges Lengthwise (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 2 Part 3003old Red Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 7 Part 3022 Red Plate 2 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 9 Part Black 3704 Technic, Axle 2 {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 12 Part Black 3705 Technic, Axle 4 {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 16 Part Light Gray 3713 Technic Bush {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 42 Part Light Gray 3673 Technic, Pin without Friction Ridges Lengthwise {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 4 Part Red 3003old Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 9 Part Red 3022 Plate 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 2 Part Red 3039 Slope 45 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 2}

Comments from Submitter:
The early version of this set (with foldout instructions) has a slightly different steering assembly. Details attached in the following post.

I started the project of fixing this inventory shortly after becoming a BrickLink
member in 2008, and today it has finally been completed! The box I had at the
time showed a different steering system, and I could never reconcile the 590
piece count no matter what way the wheels or other parts were counted. In fact,
I ended up adding pieces to the inventory, making the discrepancy even more noticeable.

As I dug deeper, I discovered four distinct versions of the set - two prototpye
versions, and two production versions. The inventory changes above reflect the
production versions. It's interesting to see that the parts "removed" from
the inventory for the later production version are present in the Extras section
(2 axle 4's and 2 spacers).

Below I have put together a presentation, complete with images, to illustrate
my theory on how all the evidence fits together. Expert Builder enthusiasts,
please feel free to download this information and test it out!

Russell
_____________________________________________________________

TIMELINE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SET 853 / 956 AUTO CHASSIS

(approx. 150 parts / pre-construction, 1976) - A new Technic system is
developed from the existing Gears system, and the first 4 set numbers are assigned
(850, 851, 852, 853). A core inventory of parts is developed for the flagship
model, the Auto Chassis: 100+ technic parts plus a token number of 1 x 4 and
1 x 6 plates, both new parts in 1977. A balanced selection of technic parts plus
standard elements of the type used in the Hobby theme are available as needed
to complete construction.

(577 parts / “catalog” prototype, 1976) - The Auto Chassis prototype is
built, with an old-school steering mechanism made from Technic plates. Conspicuously
absent is the spacer immediately under the steering wheel and the one right at
the nose of the engine on the “fan”. Also absent are three blue 1 x 2 plates
on the top of the engine block, between the cylinders. The parts from the prototype
model are used to build several alternate models - a dragster, jeep, semi, lathe,
and scissor lift. None of the alternate models have working steering. Photos
are taken of these models, and early catalogs and ads containing these photos
are sent to press. See BL large image of set 956:

956-1 (Inv) Auto Chassis
602 Parts, 1978
Sets: Technic: Expert Builder

(590 parts / “box” prototype, 1976) - The 2 x 2 turntable is invented
to enable steering at a smaller scale, and a complete set of 6 turntables is
added to the official parts list of the Auto Chassis set. A spacer on the steering
column is also added and another on the front of the “cooling system fan” axle.
Another spacer is added to each steering wheel axis, and three blue 1 x 2 plates
are added to the engine block. An alternate model using the turntables goes into
development: the “Go-Cart” model, the informal predecessor of the famous blue
Go-Cart, set 854.

854-1 (Inv) Go-Kart
206 Parts, 1978
Sets: Technic: Expert Builder

At this point (590 parts) the boxes for both European and US versions go into
production. Many of the box images, both photos and drawings, were generated
during the previous stage of development.

(597 parts / early production, 1977) - The steering in the main model
is reworked to use turntables, adding six parts: two 2 x 2 plates and four 1
x 2 technic bricks. A 1 x 4 blue plate is also added, presumably as a redundant
part. Instructions for the Auto Chassis and Go-Cart are drawn in the old-style
foldout format, with no step inventories. The difficult assembly process is used
as a “positive” in marketing materials. Set 853 goes into production with 597
regular parts and 12 extras.

853-1 (Inv) Auto Chassis
602 Parts, 1977
Sets: Technic: Expert Builder

(606 parts / late production, 1978) - The steering system is modified
again, adding another 9 parts: 8 for the wheel axes plus an additional pin in
the steering column support. Four parts (two 4 length axles and two spacers)
are “removed” from the official build but are still included in the set, allowing
backwards compatibility with previous versions, the diagrams and photos of which
are still preserved on the box. Along with the 9 additional parts, a special
instruction sheet is included, showing how to rebuild the steering system with
the provided parts.

After the supply of the old-style foldout instructions is exhausted, Lego produces
a new set of instructions bound in an A4-size booklet, with simplified building
sequences and step inventories for the main model. These instructions only show
the newest way of building the steering mechanism. The set continues to be distributed,
now with 606 regular parts and 12 extras.

The US version, set 956, is released for distribution. For whatever reason (patent,
copyright, or otherwise) US boxes were never updated and always showed a piece
count of 590. European boxes had no piece count.
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Attached images:
A) piece count spreadsheet
B) six stages of the steering mechanism
C) gear brick diagram and examples
D) annotated image of the “catalog” prototype version
E) annotated image of the “box” prototype version
F) instructions from the foldout version
G) supplemental instruction sheet
H) post production images

Links:
1. 1977 British Lego ad [8 MB]
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21557246/853/1.jpg

2. box photo A (side view) [2 MB]
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21557246/853/2.jpg

3. box photo B (front view) [2 MB]
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21557246/853/3.jpg

4. box photo C (original steering) [500 KB]
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21557246/853/4.jpg

5. box photo D (official piece count) [200 KB]
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21557246/853/5.jpg

6. poster image [6 MB]
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21557246/853/6.jpg

7. commentary on the six stages [90 KB]
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21557246/853/7.pdf

Author:

viejos

Posted:

Feb 14, 2017 22:00

Subject:

Inventory Change Request for Set 853-1

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Open

Please make changes to the following inventory:

853-1 (Inv) Auto Chassis
602 Parts, 1977
Sets: Technic: Expert Builder

Author:

M.Boss

Posted:

Feb 14, 2017 19:15

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Re: Expanding Bricklink towards Playmobil

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In Suggestions, FauconRoyal writes:

Hello,

I hope someone from the Bricklink team reads me.
Here is my suggestion: why not expand Bricklink towards Playmobil products?
While the AFOP community isn't quite as vibrant as the AFOL community, there
are many adult fans of Playmobil out there (including me) who have been sharing
and buying/selling for years now on different internet forums. We even have our
own sets/parts database at playmodb.org
But this community lacks a global and well-organized marketplace like Bricklink.
So why not expand? It would be a bit of work from the Bricklink team's part,
but adapting Bricklink's framework to Playmobil products should be doable,
especially if you use the playmodb database which would spare you quite some
trouble. And it ultimately would mean more money for you.
I'd very much like you to consider this project. If playmolink or klicklink
or whatever its name was ever created, I'd certainly be the first to set
up shop and do publicity on your behalf to the AFOP community.
Thank you for your attention and have a nice day

While I believe many users on here are fans of Playmobil, I believe the users
who aren't (including myself) would become frustrated if all of a sudden
BrickLink decide to put its focus on developing a Playmobil marketplace, instead
of focussing on instant checkout, and many other features that could greatly
improve this site.

Just my thoughts,
M.Boss

Author:

Shahennian

Posted:

Feb 14, 2017 19:05

Subject:

Re: Expanding Bricklink towards Playmobil

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While today Playmobil is more and more going Fisher Price-y, I think the old
sets were much more creative. For exeample, I'm a medieval/knights collector
and the possibilities are endless with the sets from the 90s and noughties, especially
regarding castle building.
I agree completely that Lego and Playmobil are not the same, I never implied
that. That's why I talked about separating the two marketplaces in the event
a marketplace for Playmobil with a Bricklink-style framework is ever created.

In Suggestions, laurenyves writes:

I have to say that it is not even to be considered. At a time when we are trying
to escape the Megabricks, Sluban and others out of the mind of kids and creation,
Playmobil does not offer the same as LEGO. LEGO is the genesis of building and
assembling in its own style. Playmobil does not. Yes, Playmobil are solid and
last for long. Ebay and LeBonCoin.fr can do the job for them.

Author:

Shahennian

Posted:

Feb 14, 2017 19:01

Subject:

Re: Expanding Bricklink towards Playmobil

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Yes, I like that idea! Because Bricklink is definitely very well-organized and
clear, so why not use that framework for more collectibles ?

In Suggestions, Zuki85 writes:

Perhaps BrickLink could add sub-BrickLinks, similar to Reddits sub-Reddits.
Providing links on the main site, but making sure they are separate from the
actual Lego Brand items.

Just my two Cents,
Jessica Corbitt
Owner of Pandorica
Lover of All things Lego

Author:

Shahennian

Posted:

Feb 14, 2017 18:58

Subject:

Re: Expanding Bricklink towards Playmobil

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Topic:

Thanks for your input!

In Suggestions, Stuart9 writes:

It would be good to have the ability to switch from one site to another, if only
to check which manufacturer a particular part came from.

I like the idea of a site for each or a combined site for less popular brands,
some are very collectable e.g. Kiddicraft.

Others have proposed they should all be sold here, that's why you might get
a frosty response from some who like me don't want this site changed in that
way.
Once they understand what you are proposing some may see the possibilities.

In Suggestions, FauconRoyal writes:

Oh my god calm down, I never said it should happen here, I only said the Bricklink
team has the necessary tools/means to do it imo. Of course it could be on another
website (I did mention the names playmolink or kilcklink, if you readproperly)
and I think it should. Or there could be a button on the top of the website to
switch from the Lego version to the Playmobil version, for example.
That's it really, nobody is going to soil your precious Lego with all these
disgusting Playmobil.

Author:

bb562110

Posted:

Feb 14, 2017 18:44

Subject:

Re: Expanding Bricklink towards Playmobil

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Author:

laurenyves

Posted:

Feb 14, 2017 18:34

Subject:

Re: Expanding Bricklink towards Playmobil

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Author:

Stuart9

Posted:

Feb 14, 2017 17:53

Subject:

Re: Expanding Bricklink towards Playmobil

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Topic:

Author:

Shahennian

Posted:

Feb 14, 2017 17:37

Subject:

Re: Expanding Bricklink towards Playmobil

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Topic:

Author:

tEoS

Posted:

Feb 14, 2017 17:19

Subject:

Re: Expanding Bricklink towards Playmobil

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Topic:

Please no. This is 'BrickLink: an unofficial Lego marketplace.' Start
a different marketplace for other brands.

In Suggestions, FauconRoyal writes:

Author:

electricbaer

Posted:

Feb 14, 2017 15:09

Subject:

Inventory Change Request for Set 7962-1

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Topic:

Status:

Open

Please make changes to the following inventory:

7962-1 (Inv) Anakin's & Sebulba's Podracers
792 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 2011
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1

* Add 1 Part 85984pb156R Dark Bluish Gray Slope 30 1 x 2 x 2/3 with Orange Markings and Blue Rectangle Pattern Model Right Side (Sticker) - Set 7962 (Counterpart)

Author:

Stuart9

Posted:

Feb 14, 2017 14:54

Subject:

Re: Expanding Bricklink towards Playmobil

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Wouldn't be against those running BL opening other similar sites for other
products/brands, not really my business, i wouldn't want to see them sold
on here.

Happy to see a site for Kiddicraft or a combined site for brands other than Lego.

In Suggestions, FauconRoyal writes:

Author:

axaday

Posted:

Feb 14, 2017 14:32

Subject:

Inventory Change Request for Set 70589-1

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Topic:

Status:

Open