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| | | Author: | CE_Anastasia  | | Posted: | Apr 29, 2024 13:16 | | Subject: | Changes for EU Sellers in 2024 | | Viewed: | 899 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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BrickLink
ID CardCE_Anastasia
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Location:  USA, California |
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| Dear BrickLink sellers,
As the next step in making sure that we are in compliance with the EU DAC-7 regulations,
we will start collecting additional information from BrickLink Sellers shortly.
To see if you qualify as a Business Seller, please check with Article 8ac of
the EU Council Directive: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32021L0514
Information that we will be collecting includes the following:
- Name of business,
- Business registration number, including a supporting document. As different
rules
apply for each EU member state, refer to your local authority for directions,
- Tax Identification Number (TIN), including a supporting document: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/tin/#/check-tin
- OSS Number and/ or VAT ID for each country of registration:
https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/online-sellers_en
You may be aware that we already started requesting this from new Business Sellers
last year. For more details, go to our previous forum post regarding DAC-7: https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=332298.
We are now starting the process of collecting this information for all of our
existing Business Sellers.
Existing Business Sellers should add this information to their accounts by December
31, 2024. After submission, documents will be reviewed by BrickLink.
To ensure that everyone’s requests are handled in a consistent and timely manner,
we will be requesting account updates in waves, by country. We strongly advise
our members to add information to their accounts by the deadline for their corresponding
countries. We will be sending out emails with further details and instructions
for each country in accordance with a schedule. We recommend that you start collecting
the required documentation as soon as possible and await further instructions
for how to add this to your account.
Kind Regards,
The BrickLink Team
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| | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Apr 29, 2024 15:41 | | Subject: | Re: Changes for EU Sellers in 2024 | | Viewed: | 102 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, CE_Anastasia writes:
Please kindly note I opened a ticket about this years ago (not resolved), so
we still do NOT receive e-mails sent though mailchimp or whoever you use to send
Announcements.
But if sent from @bricklink or @lego, no problem of course.
So, please inform sellers from bricklink and not through the mass e-mail
provider.
Thank you!
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| | | | | | | Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | May 6, 2024 11:21 | | Subject: | Re: Changes for EU Sellers in 2024 | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| Thanks, was just gonna make the same request  .
Is there already a rough time schedule that can be shared?
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| | | | | Author: | Give.Me.A.Brick | | Posted: | Apr 29, 2024 16:06 | | Subject: | Re: Changes for EU Sellers in 2024 | | Viewed: | 111 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, CE_Anastasia writes:
| | Dear BrickLink sellers,
As the next step in making sure that we are in compliance with the EU DAC-7 regulations,
we will start collecting additional information from BrickLink Sellers shortly.
To see if you qualify as a Business Seller, please check with Article 8ac of
the EU Council Directive: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32021L0514
Information that we will be collecting includes the following:
- Name of business,
- Business registration number, including a supporting document. As different
rules
apply for each EU member state, refer to your local authority for directions,
- Tax Identification Number (TIN), including a supporting document: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/tin/#/check-tin
- OSS Number and/ or VAT ID for each country of registration:
https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/online-sellers_en
You may be aware that we already started requesting this from new Business Sellers
last year. For more details, go to our previous forum post regarding DAC-7: https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=332298.
We are now starting the process of collecting this information for all of our
existing Business Sellers.
Existing Business Sellers should add this information to their accounts by December
31, 2024. After submission, documents will be reviewed by BrickLink.
To ensure that everyone’s requests are handled in a consistent and timely manner,
we will be requesting account updates in waves, by country. We strongly advise
our members to add information to their accounts by the deadline for their corresponding
countries. We will be sending out emails with further details and instructions
for each country in accordance with a schedule. We recommend that you start collecting
the required documentation as soon as possible and await further instructions
for how to add this to your account.
Kind Regards,
The BrickLink Team
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All the information you are asking here, and supporting documentation, I've
already provided.
TIN, OSS number and VAT ID are the same for one-person companies in Portugal:
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| | | | | Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | May 6, 2024 11:29 | | Subject: | Re: Changes for EU Sellers in 2024 | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| Maybe by asking here, I will get a reply  :
In the data that will be provided to the tax authorities, will the total of sales
be reduced by the total of bought items?
Hence the sold value -/- the bought value?
Asked it several times before in the last 18-20 months, but never got a reply
(AFAIK...).
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 6, 2024 11:48 | | Subject: | Re: Changes for EU Sellers in 2024 | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, StarBrick writes:
| | Maybe by asking here, I will get a reply :
In the data that will be provided to the tax authorities, will the total of sales
be reduced by the total of bought items?
Hence the sold value -/- the bought value?
Asked it several times before in the last 18-20 months, but never got a reply
(AFAIK...).
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Why?  The regulation asks for what you sell, not what you buy.
Of course you need to buy before you sell, but buying here is no different from
buying elsewhere.
(Besides, there’s also no way to know if you sell here what you buy here. You
might buy elswhere to sell here and buy here to sell elsewhere, hopefully for
you at a higher price each time.)
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | ZwarteMagica | | Posted: | May 6, 2024 12:06 | | Subject: | Re: Changes for EU Sellers in 2024 | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| Because of margin goods
https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/bldcontentnl/belastingdienst/zakelijk/btw/bijzondere_regelingen/margeregeling/
As far as I know margin goods do not count towards the EU-marketplace rules.
But need to be done with your local tax office.
We informed BrickLink about those rules back in 2022 with a signed document by
our local taxation office confirming our statement.
Now in 2024 those rules still apply and as far as I`m aware it will still exist
in the same form after 2024.
In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Administrative, StarBrick writes:
| | Maybe by asking here, I will get a reply :
In the data that will be provided to the tax authorities, will the total of sales
be reduced by the total of bought items?
Hence the sold value -/- the bought value?
Asked it several times before in the last 18-20 months, but never got a reply
(AFAIK...).
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Why? The regulation asks for what you sell, not what you buy.
Of course you need to buy before you sell, but buying here is no different from
buying elsewhere.
(Besides, there’s also no way to know if you sell here what you buy here. You
might buy elswhere to sell here and buy here to sell elsewhere, hopefully for
you at a higher price each time.)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 6, 2024 12:16 | | Subject: | Re: Changes for EU Sellers in 2024 | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, ZwarteMagica writes:
| | Because of margin goods
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But this is about DAC-7, not about OSS & the €10k “Distance Selling” threshold.
AFAIK, DAC-7 wants to know for how much you sell, not what you buy.
And, again, there’s no proof that what you buy here, you sell here. At most,
if DAC-7 was interested in that, it would ask for your buying _separately_, not
“selling minus buying.”
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ZwarteMagica | | Posted: | May 6, 2024 13:24 | | Subject: | Re: Changes for EU Sellers in 2024 | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| It it oke for us. If BrickLink ask us for the required documents for DAC-7 we
will deliver them.
In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Administrative, ZwarteMagica writes:
| | Because of margin goods
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But this is about DAC-7, not about OSS & the €10k “Distance Selling” threshold.
AFAIK, DAC-7 wants to know for how much you sell, not what you buy.
And, again, there’s no proof that what you buy here, you sell here. At most,
if DAC-7 was interested in that, it would ask for your buying _separately_, not
“selling minus buying.”
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| | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | May 6, 2024 16:21 | | Subject: | Re: Changes for EU Sellers in 2024 | | Viewed: | 75 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, CE_Anastasia writes:
The TIN of every UBO, just the BL account holder, or of the business (not aware
of it having one)?
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| | | | | Author: | Shintaku | | Posted: | May 6, 2024 17:04 | | Subject: | Re: Changes for EU Sellers in 2024 | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In some countries you cannot have a OSS or VAT if you have some specific Jobs
Does this mean these people Will have their shop closed After Dec 31?
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| | | | | Author: | Walskipper | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 10:17 | | Subject: | Re: Changes for EU Sellers in 2024 | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, CE_Anastasia writes:
| | Dear BrickLink sellers,
As the next step in making sure that we are in compliance with the EU DAC-7 regulations,
we will start collecting additional information from BrickLink Sellers shortly.
To see if you qualify as a Business Seller, please check with Article 8ac of
the EU Council Directive: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32021L0514
Information that we will be collecting includes the following:
- Name of business,
- Business registration number, including a supporting document. As different
rules
apply for each EU member state, refer to your local authority for directions,
- Tax Identification Number (TIN), including a supporting document: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/tin/#/check-tin
- OSS Number and/ or VAT ID for each country of registration:
https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/online-sellers_en
You may be aware that we already started requesting this from new Business Sellers
last year. For more details, go to our previous forum post regarding DAC-7: https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=332298.
We are now starting the process of collecting this information for all of our
existing Business Sellers.
Existing Business Sellers should add this information to their accounts by December
31, 2024. After submission, documents will be reviewed by BrickLink.
To ensure that everyone’s requests are handled in a consistent and timely manner,
we will be requesting account updates in waves, by country. We strongly advise
our members to add information to their accounts by the deadline for their corresponding
countries. We will be sending out emails with further details and instructions
for each country in accordance with a schedule. We recommend that you start collecting
the required documentation as soon as possible and await further instructions
for how to add this to your account.
Kind Regards,
The BrickLink Team
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In Italy, the limit for transactions in a year has been set at 2000 euros, below
which nothing must be declared and it is therefore possible not to have a VAT
number but only a tax code.
I can then get a feedback on the documents to be sent to you and where to upload
them to Bricklink
tank you
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| | | | | | | Author: | Shintaku | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 11:21 | | Subject: | Re: Changes for EU Sellers in 2024 | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Walskipper writes:
| | In Administrative, CE_Anastasia writes:
| | Dear BrickLink sellers,
As the next step in making sure that we are in compliance with the EU DAC-7 regulations,
we will start collecting additional information from BrickLink Sellers shortly.
To see if you qualify as a Business Seller, please check with Article 8ac of
the EU Council Directive: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32021L0514
Information that we will be collecting includes the following:
- Name of business,
- Business registration number, including a supporting document. As different
rules
apply for each EU member state, refer to your local authority for directions,
- Tax Identification Number (TIN), including a supporting document: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/tin/#/check-tin
- OSS Number and/ or VAT ID for each country of registration:
https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/online-sellers_en
You may be aware that we already started requesting this from new Business Sellers
last year. For more details, go to our previous forum post regarding DAC-7: https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=332298.
We are now starting the process of collecting this information for all of our
existing Business Sellers.
Existing Business Sellers should add this information to their accounts by December
31, 2024. After submission, documents will be reviewed by BrickLink.
To ensure that everyone’s requests are handled in a consistent and timely manner,
we will be requesting account updates in waves, by country. We strongly advise
our members to add information to their accounts by the deadline for their corresponding
countries. We will be sending out emails with further details and instructions
for each country in accordance with a schedule. We recommend that you start collecting
the required documentation as soon as possible and await further instructions
for how to add this to your account.
Kind Regards,
The BrickLink Team
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In Italy, the limit for transactions in a year has been set at 2000 euros, below
which nothing must be declared and it is therefore possible not to have a VAT
number but only a tax code.
I can then get a feedback on the documents to be sent to you and where to upload
them to Bricklink
tank you
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2000 euros or 30 orders in a year.
You have more than 30 orders in a year.
You have 71 orders in the last 14 months.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 11:30 | | Subject: | Re: Changes for EU Sellers in 2024 | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Shintaku writes:
| | In Administrative, Walskipper writes:
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| | | | In Italy, the limit for transactions in a year has been set at 2000 euros, below
which nothing must be declared and it is therefore possible not to have a VAT
number but only a tax code.
I can then get a feedback on the documents to be sent to you and where to upload
them to Bricklink
tank you
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2000 euros or 30 orders in a year.
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Tecnically less than 2000€ AND 30 orders per year.
| | You have more than 30 orders in a year.
You have 71 orders in the last 14 months.
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Correct.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 11:41 | | Subject: | Re: Changes for EU Sellers in 2024 | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
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| | 2000 euros or 30 orders in a year.
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Tecnically less than 2000€ AND 30 orders per year.
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Technically, it depends if you’re talking about the obligation to declare or
about the exception to not declare.
That is:
— you must declare if you’re OVER 2,000€ OR 30 orders in a year,
— you don’t have to declare if you’re UNDER 2,000€ AND 30 orders in a year.
IOW: you’re both right! Celebrate with wafles! 🧇🧇🧇
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France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
Netherlands, Gelderland
Portugal
Italy, Lombardia