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 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
 Posted: Mar 12, 2025 18:33
 Subject: 2635b vs. 92086
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Hi,

Can anyone prove that 2635b in Green actually exists? I've ordered it multiple
times from reliable sellers and messaged other sellers about it, and I have yet
to find any evidence that it exists. Every single copy I've received, seen,
or sellers have responded about is 92086, including from my old copy of set 7939,
which is the only set it's supposedly in.

Regardless, I think the Regular and Alternate listings for set 7939 should be
switched, since at the very least part 92086 Green is much more common and the
correct part for the vast majority of copies of 7939.

Thanks,
-Jordy (Brickitty)
 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
 Posted: Mar 12, 2025 18:34
 Subject: Re: 2635b vs. 92086
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In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  Hi,

Can anyone prove that 2635b in Green actually exists? I've ordered it multiple
times from reliable sellers and messaged other sellers about it, and I have yet
to find any evidence that it exists. Every single copy I've received, seen,
or sellers have responded about is 92086, including from my old copy of set 7939,
which is the only set it's supposedly in.

Regardless, I think the Regular and Alternate listings for set 7939 should be
switched, since at the very least part 92086 Green is much more common and the
correct part for the vast majority of copies of 7939.

Thanks,
-Jordy (Brickitty)

To be clear, this means that every copy has axle holes in the top bar with 16
studs on it. I haven't seen a copy without axle holes.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Mar 12, 2025 18:38
 Subject: Re: 2635b vs. 92086
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In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  Hi,

Can anyone prove that 2635b in Green actually exists? I've ordered it multiple
times from reliable sellers and messaged other sellers about it, and I have yet
to find any evidence that it exists. Every single copy I've received, seen,
or sellers have responded about is 92086, including from my old copy of set 7939,
which is the only set it's supposedly in.

Regardless, I think the Regular and Alternate listings for set 7939 should be
switched, since at the very least part 92086 Green is much more common and the
correct part for the vast majority of copies of 7939.

Thanks,
-Jordy (Brickitty)

To be clear, this means that every copy has axle holes in the top bar with 16
studs on it. I haven't seen a copy without axle holes.

for reference
 
Part No: 2635b  Name: Support Crane Stand Double - No Studs on Cross-Brace
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2635b Support Crane Stand Double - No Studs on Cross-Brace
Parts: Support {Green}
 
Part No: 92086  Name: Support Crane Stand Double - No Studs on Cross-Brace with Axle Holes on Top
* 
92086 Support Crane Stand Double - No Studs on Cross-Brace with Axle Holes on Top
Parts: Support {Green}
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Mar 13, 2025 09:14
 Subject: Re: 2635b vs. 92086
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In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  Hi,

Can anyone prove that 2635b in Green actually exists?


It's hard to know at this point in time. Inventories and new parts were not
scrutinized back then like they are now. Therefore, many inventories from that
time period may be wrong, or catalog entries may not be correct. In any case,
there does exist a LEGO element number for 2635 in green which suggests that
it could have been made shortly before 92086 was released. That doesn't mean
that it does exist, but it is a pretty good sign that it probably does.


  I've ordered it multiple
times from reliable sellers and messaged other sellers about it, and I have yet
to find any evidence that it exists. Every single copy I've received, seen,
or sellers have responded about is 92086, including from my old copy of set 7939,
which is the only set it's supposedly in.

Regardless, I think the Regular and Alternate listings for set 7939 should be
switched, since at the very least part 92086 Green is much more common and the
correct part for the vast majority of copies of 7939.

Thanks,
-Jordy (Brickitty)
 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
 Posted: Mar 13, 2025 19:14
 Subject: Re: 2635b vs. 92086
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  It's hard to know at this point in time. Inventories and new parts were not
scrutinized back then like they are now. Therefore, many inventories from that
time period may be wrong, or catalog entries may not be correct. In any case,
there does exist a LEGO element number for 2635 in green which suggests that
it could have been made shortly before 92086 was released. That doesn't mean
that it does exist, but it is a pretty good sign that it probably does.

Makes sense. If I submit a switch for the regular and alternate parts, will it
be approved?
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Mar 13, 2025 19:59
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In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  It's hard to know at this point in time. Inventories and new parts were not
scrutinized back then like they are now. Therefore, many inventories from that
time period may be wrong, or catalog entries may not be correct. In any case,
there does exist a LEGO element number for 2635 in green which suggests that
it could have been made shortly before 92086 was released. That doesn't mean
that it does exist, but it is a pretty good sign that it probably does.

Makes sense. If I submit a switch for the regular and alternate parts, will it
be approved?


The mystery gets deeper.

Look at the image for
 
Part No: 2635bpb01  Name: Support Crane Stand Double - No Studs on Cross-Brace with Red and White Danger Stripes Pattern on Both Sides (Stickers) - Set 7939
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2635bpb01 Support Crane Stand Double - No Studs on Cross-Brace with Red and White Danger Stripes Pattern on Both Sides (Stickers) - Set 7939
Parts: Support
That looks like it has axle holes on top to me, right?

So, that would make that entry and
 
Part No: 92086pb01  Name: Support Crane Stand Double - No Studs on Cross-Brace with Axle Holes on Top with Red and White Danger Stripes Pattern on Both Sides (Stickers) - Set 7939
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92086pb01 Support Crane Stand Double - No Studs on Cross-Brace with Axle Holes on Top with Red and White Danger Stripes Pattern on Both Sides (Stickers) - Set 7939
Parts: Support
the same thing.

And if those two are the same thing, then maybe the set was never found with
2635b in green by any contributors to BrickLink.

I will see if I can do a little more digging, but my time is always limited for
things like this.
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Mar 14, 2025 13:13
 Subject: Re: 2635b vs. 92086
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In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  It's hard to know at this point in time. Inventories and new parts were not
scrutinized back then like they are now. Therefore, many inventories from that
time period may be wrong, or catalog entries may not be correct. In any case,
there does exist a LEGO element number for 2635 in green which suggests that
it could have been made shortly before 92086 was released. That doesn't mean
that it does exist, but it is a pretty good sign that it probably does.

Makes sense. If I submit a switch for the regular and alternate parts, will it
be approved?

No, but you can submit a request to remove 2635b and the stickered version from
the inventory.

As shown in the instructions, the set requires the axle holes to insert the axles
from above, so 92086 was probably developed for this set and it is very unlikely
that they would release it with the previous version.
https://www.lego.com/cdn/product-assets/product.bi.core.pdf/4598401.pdf

This video shows 92086 and was uploaded in July 2010, just a few weeks after
the set was released:
https://youtu.be/ebP8tj1j3DM?t=128

And this review from September 2010 points out the new mold and the author even
mentions that they had found it in the City farm set some time before:
https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/forums/topic/46027-review-7939-cargo-train
 


 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Mar 14, 2025 13:24
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  It's hard to know at this point in time. Inventories and new parts were not
scrutinized back then like they are now. Therefore, many inventories from that
time period may be wrong, or catalog entries may not be correct. In any case,
there does exist a LEGO element number for 2635 in green which suggests that
it could have been made shortly before 92086 was released. That doesn't mean
that it does exist, but it is a pretty good sign that it probably does.

Makes sense. If I submit a switch for the regular and alternate parts, will it
be approved?

No, but you can submit a request to remove 2635b and the stickered version from
the inventory.

As shown in the instructions, the set requires the axle holes to insert the axles
from above, so 92086 was probably developed for this set and it is very unlikely
that they would release it with the previous version.
https://www.lego.com/cdn/product-assets/product.bi.core.pdf/4598401.pdf

This video shows 92086 and was uploaded in July 2010, just a few weeks after
the set was released:
https://youtu.be/ebP8tj1j3DM?t=128

And this review from September 2010 points out the new mold and the author even
mentions that they had found it in the City farm set some time before:
https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/forums/topic/46027-review-7939-cargo-train


Well, I guess I don't need to do any more research.

Nice work, buddy. 👍