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 Author: Braydensbricks View Messages Posted By Braydensbricks
 Posted: Nov 12, 2024 22:42
 Subject: Canceled order
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Braydensbricks (192)

Location:  USA, Texas
Member Since Contact Type Status
Jul 12, 2021 Contact Member Seller
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Store: Brayden's Bricks
When someone cancels an order after paying, how do you go about refunding? This
was a pretty large order and the PayPal fees are pretty high, how would you go
about this? In my terms I state that they will not get these fees back but I
know that they could still leave feedback if the order is canceled. Thanks.
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: Nov 12, 2024 22:58
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zorbanj (1028)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
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Dec 14, 2003 Contact Member Seller
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Store: ZorbaNJ's Bricks
The only way no FB can be left for a seller is if an NPB is completed. So you
either refund the full amount take a risk on the FB or refund the net amount.

In Problem Order, Braydensbricks writes:
  When someone cancels an order after paying, how do you go about refunding? This
was a pretty large order and the PayPal fees are pretty high, how would you go
about this? In my terms I state that they will not get these fees back but I
know that they could still leave feedback if the order is canceled. Thanks.
 Author: Braydensbricks View Messages Posted By Braydensbricks
 Posted: Nov 12, 2024 23:02
 Subject: Re: Canceled order
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Braydensbricks (192)

Location:  USA, Texas
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Jul 12, 2021 Contact Member Seller
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Store: Brayden's Bricks
In Problem Order, zorbanj writes:
  The only way no FB can be left for a seller is if an NPB is completed. So you
either refund the full amount take a risk on the FB or refund the net amount.

In Problem Order, Braydensbricks writes:
  When someone cancels an order after paying, how do you go about refunding? This
was a pretty large order and the PayPal fees are pretty high, how would you go
about this? In my terms I state that they will not get these fees back but I
know that they could still leave feedback if the order is canceled. Thanks.

Thank you, I’ll just refund the full order
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: Nov 13, 2024 08:47
 Subject: Re: Canceled order
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zorbanj (1028)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
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Store: ZorbaNJ's Bricks
I have this right in my terms, which I can point buyers to if needed.

In Problem Order, Braydensbricks writes:
  In Problem Order, zorbanj writes:
  The only way no FB can be left for a seller is if an NPB is completed. So you
either refund the full amount or take a risk on the FB and refund the net amount.

In Problem Order, Braydensbricks writes:
  When someone cancels an order after paying, how do you go about refunding? This
was a pretty large order and the PayPal fees are pretty high, how would you go
about this? In my terms I state that they will not get these fees back but I
know that they could still leave feedback if the order is canceled. Thanks.

Thank you, I’ll just refund the full order
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Nov 13, 2024 03:32
 Subject: Re: Canceled order
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SezaR (1760)

Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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Store: Sezar's trains
In Problem Order, Braydensbricks writes:
  When someone cancels an order after paying,

Someone can NOT cancel the order. The only person who can cancel the order is
seller. Buyer can submit a request to cancel and seller can simply reject it
and ship the order.

  how do you go about refunding? This
was a pretty large order and the PayPal fees are pretty high, how would you go
about this? In my terms I state that they will not get these fees back but I
know that they could still leave feedback if the order is canceled. Thanks.

For this reason, I won't just cancel an order. But in certain rare cases
if I agree to cancel, I might request buyer to do a bank transfer of like 5%
to 20 % (if order was picked up).
I always request the buyer to leave a positive feedback first, before any cancellation
happens. This is for multiple reasons. One is to make the buyer do some work,
so that next time, he won't submit an order in another store, pay and then
request to cancel.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Nov 13, 2024 09:01
 Subject: Re: Canceled order
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peregrinator (1100)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
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Jan 21, 2003 Contact Member Seller
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Store: Faber Family Bricks
In Problem Order, SezaR writes:
  I always request the buyer to leave a positive feedback first, before any cancellation
happens.

How does this not fall under "Feedback Extortion"?

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=97
 Author: RebelliousBrick View Messages Posted By RebelliousBrick
 Posted: Nov 13, 2024 09:03
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RebelliousBrick (28)

Location:  Canada, Alberta
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Dec 8, 2021 Contact Member Seller
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Store Closed Store: Rebellious Bricks
In Problem Order, peregrinator writes:
  In Problem Order, SezaR writes:
  I always request the buyer to leave a positive feedback first, before any cancellation
happens.

How does this not fall under "Feedback Extortion"?

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=97

And not to forget, there are a bunch of consumer rights/laws to follow as well
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Nov 13, 2024 15:12
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SezaR (1760)

Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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Jan 15, 2015 Contact Member Seller
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Store: Sezar's trains
In Problem Order, peregrinator writes:
  In Problem Order, SezaR writes:
  I always request the buyer to leave a positive feedback first, before any cancellation
happens.

How does this not fall under "Feedback Extortion"?

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=97

I don't care about positive feedback at all but the last thing I want is
that after i cancel an order, the buyer leaves a neutral one. This has been reported
here a few times.

So, shall I just file NPB in all cases?
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Nov 13, 2024 15:17
 Subject: Re: Canceled order
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1001bricks (55733)

Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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Sep 6, 2005 Contact Member Seller
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Store: 1001bricks
In Problem Order, SezaR writes:
  In Problem Order, peregrinator writes:
  In Problem Order, SezaR writes:
  I always request the buyer to leave a positive feedback first, before any cancellation
happens.

How does this not fall under "Feedback Extortion"?

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=97

I don't care about positive feedback at all but the last thing I want is
that after i cancel an order, the buyer leaves a neutral one. This has been reported
here a few times.

So, shall I just file NPB in all cases?

I just cancel as per the buyer's wish.

Never got a Negative for accepting a cancellation, right the opposite, often
get positives for this.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Nov 13, 2024 16:21
 Subject: Re: Canceled order
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Nubs_Select (4831)

Location:  Canada, Ontario
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Store: Nub's Select
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In Problem Order, 1001bricks writes:
  In Problem Order, SezaR writes:
  In Problem Order, peregrinator writes:
  In Problem Order, SezaR writes:
  I always request the buyer to leave a positive feedback first, before any cancellation
happens.

How does this not fall under "Feedback Extortion"?

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=97

I don't care about positive feedback at all but the last thing I want is
that after i cancel an order, the buyer leaves a neutral one. This has been reported
here a few times.

So, shall I just file NPB in all cases?

I just cancel as per the buyer's wish.

Never got a Negative for accepting a cancellation, right the opposite, often
get positives for this.

+1. I usually cancel orders at the buyer's request (aside from 1 a long time
ago when the buyer was "aggressive" (as in they asked questions which
i answer then repeatly asked the same question in an attempt to avoid tax)) and
haven't gotten any neutral or negative feedback from it
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Nov 13, 2024 11:27
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1001bricks (55733)

Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
Member Since Contact Type Status
Sep 6, 2005 Contact Member Seller
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Store: 1001bricks
In Problem Order, SezaR writes:
  In Problem Order, Braydensbricks writes:
  When someone cancels an order after paying,

Someone can NOT cancel the order. The only person who can cancel the order is
seller. Buyer can submit a request to cancel and seller can simply reject it
and ship the order.

Agreed, anyway it's how it works here.


  I always request the buyer to leave a positive feedback first, before any cancellation
happens.

This is very bad, sorry to say, if not forbidden on BrickLink - and by many Consumer
Laws, but that may depend the Country though.