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 Author: KPantas View Messages Posted By KPantas
 Posted: Nov 11, 2024 18:17
 Subject: Incorrect info for part #50898
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KPantas (4)

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Please be aware that Lego part #4252528 (Bricklink part #50898), a black 2x7
closed with Rounded ends has some incorrect info attached. If you look at what
sets it appears in, both Bionicles Antroz and Chirox show up on the list, but
this is not correct - they both have SQUARE ends and are Lego part #4519224.
The Antroz and Chirox sets should be removed from the list so there is no confusion
or false hope that they can be used as replacement pieces!
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Nov 11, 2024 18:21
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In Catalog Requests, KPantas writes:
  Please be aware that Lego part #4252528 (Bricklink part #50898), a black 2x7
closed with Rounded ends has some incorrect info attached. If you look at what
sets it appears in, both Bionicles Antroz and Chirox show up on the list, but
this is not correct - they both have SQUARE ends and are Lego part #4519224.
The Antroz and Chirox sets should be removed from the list so there is no confusion
or false hope that they can be used as replacement pieces!

 
Part No: 50898  Name: Technic, Axle and Pin Connector 2 x 7 with 2 Ball Joint Sockets, Rounded Ends
* 
50898 Technic, Axle and Pin Connector 2 x 7 with 2 Ball Joint Sockets, Rounded Ends
Parts: Technic, Connector {Black}
 
Set No: 8691  Name: Antroz
* 
8691-1 (Inv) Antroz
52 Parts, 2008
Sets: BIONICLE: Phantoka
 
Set No: 8693  Name: Chirox
* 
8693-1 (Inv) Chirox
48 Parts, 2008
Sets: BIONICLE: Phantoka
 
Part No: 61054  Name: Technic, Axle and Pin Connector 2 x 7 with 2 Ball Joint Sockets, Squared Ends, Closed Side Axle Holes
* 
61054 Technic, Axle and Pin Connector 2 x 7 with 2 Ball Joint Sockets, Squared Ends, Closed Side Axle Holes
Parts: Technic, Connector {Black}
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Nov 11, 2024 18:24
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jennnifer (3700)

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In Catalog Requests, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog Requests, KPantas writes:
  Please be aware that Lego part #4252528 (Bricklink part #50898), a black 2x7
closed with Rounded ends has some incorrect info attached. If you look at what
sets it appears in, both Bionicles Antroz and Chirox show up on the list, but
this is not correct - they both have SQUARE ends and are Lego part #4519224.
The Antroz and Chirox sets should be removed from the list so there is no confusion
or false hope that they can be used as replacement pieces!

 
Part No: 50898  Name: Technic, Axle and Pin Connector 2 x 7 with 2 Ball Joint Sockets, Rounded Ends
* 
50898 Technic, Axle and Pin Connector 2 x 7 with 2 Ball Joint Sockets, Rounded Ends
Parts: Technic, Connector {Black}
 
Set No: 8691  Name: Antroz
* 
8691-1 (Inv) Antroz
52 Parts, 2008
Sets: BIONICLE: Phantoka
 
Set No: 8693  Name: Chirox
* 
8693-1 (Inv) Chirox
48 Parts, 2008
Sets: BIONICLE: Phantoka
 
Part No: 61054  Name: Technic, Axle and Pin Connector 2 x 7 with 2 Ball Joint Sockets, Squared Ends, Closed Side Axle Holes
* 
61054 Technic, Axle and Pin Connector 2 x 7 with 2 Ball Joint Sockets, Squared Ends, Closed Side Axle Holes
Parts: Technic, Connector {Black}

These parts are already listed as Alternates on for those sets. Scroll down to
the bottom of the inventory page and note the Match ID linking the two parts.

You can read about Alternates here:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562

Thanks,
~Jen
 Author: KPantas View Messages Posted By KPantas
 Posted: Nov 11, 2024 22:39
 Subject: Re: Incorrect info for part #50898
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In Catalog Requests, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog Requests, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog Requests, KPantas writes:
  Please be aware that Lego part #4252528 (Bricklink part #50898), a black 2x7
closed with Rounded ends has some incorrect info attached. If you look at what
sets it appears in, both Bionicles Antroz and Chirox show up on the list, but
this is not correct - they both have SQUARE ends and are Lego part #4519224.
The Antroz and Chirox sets should be removed from the list so there is no confusion
or false hope that they can be used as replacement pieces!

 
Part No: 50898  Name: Technic, Axle and Pin Connector 2 x 7 with 2 Ball Joint Sockets, Rounded Ends
* 
50898 Technic, Axle and Pin Connector 2 x 7 with 2 Ball Joint Sockets, Rounded Ends
Parts: Technic, Connector {Black}
 
Set No: 8691  Name: Antroz
* 
8691-1 (Inv) Antroz
52 Parts, 2008
Sets: BIONICLE: Phantoka
 
Set No: 8693  Name: Chirox
* 
8693-1 (Inv) Chirox
48 Parts, 2008
Sets: BIONICLE: Phantoka
 
Part No: 61054  Name: Technic, Axle and Pin Connector 2 x 7 with 2 Ball Joint Sockets, Squared Ends, Closed Side Axle Holes
* 
61054 Technic, Axle and Pin Connector 2 x 7 with 2 Ball Joint Sockets, Squared Ends, Closed Side Axle Holes
Parts: Technic, Connector {Black}

These parts are already listed as Alternates on for those sets. Scroll down to
the bottom of the inventory page and note the Match ID linking the two parts.

You can read about Alternates here:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562

Thanks,
~Jen

My complaint is that when you search this specific part, and then you click on
how many sets it "Appears In", that list is incorrect. This specific
part DOES NOT appear in Antroz or Chirox. ( I understand searching for alternates
and that's not what I want. I want to know what sets have this actual part).
So I am asking administrators to edit the "Appears In' list for this
rounded part, removing the sets that have square parts. No collector is going
to be happy with a rogue square alternate part on a set that originally has rounded
pieces.
 Author: KPantas View Messages Posted By KPantas
 Posted: Nov 11, 2024 22:49
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In Catalog Requests, KPantas writes:
  In Catalog Requests, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog Requests, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog Requests, KPantas writes:
  Please be aware that Lego part #4252528 (Bricklink part #50898), a black 2x7
closed with Rounded ends has some incorrect info attached. If you look at what
sets it appears in, both Bionicles Antroz and Chirox show up on the list, but
this is not correct - they both have SQUARE ends and are Lego part #4519224.
The Antroz and Chirox sets should be removed from the list so there is no confusion
or false hope that they can be used as replacement pieces!

 
Part No: 50898  Name: Technic, Axle and Pin Connector 2 x 7 with 2 Ball Joint Sockets, Rounded Ends
* 
50898 Technic, Axle and Pin Connector 2 x 7 with 2 Ball Joint Sockets, Rounded Ends
Parts: Technic, Connector {Black}
 
Set No: 8691  Name: Antroz
* 
8691-1 (Inv) Antroz
52 Parts, 2008
Sets: BIONICLE: Phantoka
 
Set No: 8693  Name: Chirox
* 
8693-1 (Inv) Chirox
48 Parts, 2008
Sets: BIONICLE: Phantoka
 
Part No: 61054  Name: Technic, Axle and Pin Connector 2 x 7 with 2 Ball Joint Sockets, Squared Ends, Closed Side Axle Holes
* 
61054 Technic, Axle and Pin Connector 2 x 7 with 2 Ball Joint Sockets, Squared Ends, Closed Side Axle Holes
Parts: Technic, Connector {Black}

These parts are already listed as Alternates on for those sets. Scroll down to
the bottom of the inventory page and note the Match ID linking the two parts.

You can read about Alternates here:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562

Thanks,
~Jen

My complaint is that when you search this specific part, and then you click on
how many sets it "Appears In", that list is incorrect. This specific
part DOES NOT appear in Antroz or Chirox. ( I understand searching for alternates
and that's not what I want. I want to know what sets have this actual part).
So I am asking administrators to edit the "Appears In' list for this
rounded part, removing the sets that have square parts. No collector is going
to be happy with a rogue square alternate part on a set that originally has rounded
pieces.

To clarify a little - the original inventory in the manuals for Antroz and Chirox
have only square ended parts; they do not include any rounded parts. So if I
want to poach a rounded 2x7 piece from Antroz because the list says this part
"Appears in" Antroz's set, my hopes will be dashed because I will
not find it this piece on him. I will only find square pieces. I'm trying
to prevent others from being misled and disappointed.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Nov 12, 2024 03:04
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  To clarify a little - the original inventory in the manuals for Antroz and Chirox
have only square ended parts; they do not include any rounded parts. So if I
want to poach a rounded 2x7 piece from Antroz because the list says this part
"Appears in" Antroz's set, my hopes will be dashed because I will
not find it this piece on him. I will only find square pieces. I'm trying
to prevent others from being misled and disappointed.

They shouldn't be disappointed if they understood the meaning of alternate
parts. The set came with either of them, so you cannot guarantee you have a specific
type if you opened a new set.

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Nov 12, 2024 04:11
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Stellar (4215)

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In Catalog Requests, yorbrick writes:
  
  To clarify a little - the original inventory in the manuals for Antroz and Chirox
have only square ended parts; they do not include any rounded parts. So if I
want to poach a rounded 2x7 piece from Antroz because the list says this part
"Appears in" Antroz's set, my hopes will be dashed because I will
not find it this piece on him. I will only find square pieces. I'm trying
to prevent others from being misled and disappointed.

They shouldn't be disappointed if they understood the meaning of alternate
parts. The set came with either of them, so you cannot guarantee you have a specific
type if you opened a new set.

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562

Well in this case we might not be sure if they did come with the rounded ones,
as they were all inventoried before the square parts were added to the catalog.
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Jun 22, 2025 18:00
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In Catalog Requests, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog Requests, yorbrick writes:
  
  To clarify a little - the original inventory in the manuals for Antroz and Chirox
have only square ended parts; they do not include any rounded parts. So if I
want to poach a rounded 2x7 piece from Antroz because the list says this part
"Appears in" Antroz's set, my hopes will be dashed because I will
not find it this piece on him. I will only find square pieces. I'm trying
to prevent others from being misled and disappointed.

They shouldn't be disappointed if they understood the meaning of alternate
parts. The set came with either of them, so you cannot guarantee you have a specific
type if you opened a new set.

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562

Well in this case we might not be sure if they did come with the rounded ones,
as they were all inventoried before the square parts were added to the catalog.

There is a very small chance of this, yes. But set

 
Set No: 8953  Name: Makuta Icarax
* 
8953-1 (Inv) Makuta Icarax
159 Parts, 2008
Sets: BIONICLE: Warriors

was inventoried about two months after the squared variant was added. So unless
this was an overlooked mistake, a 2008 set Bionicle Warriors has for certain
been seen with the rounded variant in black. It would therefore not be unexpected
to see that variant in other 2008 sets as well (e.g. Antroz and Chirox).

LEGO official data claims that the squared version was used in the sets in question
in later production runs, so that variant should be for certain. We can't
see official DATA for older production runs at this point.

Unless very strong evidence turns up, we won't change the variants for these
sets at this point. Like others have explained, variants work as they do on BrickLink,
and we can't change that either.

/Jan
 Author: Ziegelmeister View Messages Posted By Ziegelmeister
 Posted: Nov 12, 2024 03:38
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In Catalog Requests, KPantas writes:

  My complaint is that when you search this specific part, and then you click on
how many sets it "Appears In", that list is incorrect. This specific
part DOES NOT appear in Antroz or Chirox. ( I understand searching for alternates
and that's not what I want. I want to know what sets have this actual part).
So I am asking administrators to edit the "Appears In' list for this
rounded part, removing the sets that have square parts. No collector is going
to be happy with a rogue square alternate part on a set that originally has rounded
pieces.

Then you'd need to do a deep dive in to the catalog and find sets where it's
not listed as an alternate. I think you might not be understanding the terminology.
Two sets from two different production runs can have two different pieces when
it comes to the alternate parts.