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 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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Hi,

What’s the deal with
 
Part No: 3803  Name: Technic, Pin Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Pin Hole
* 
3803 Technic, Pin Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector

The part has been added to the catalogue but is not in any set.

— Brickset doesn’t have it anymore.
  “Anymore” because, obviously, the BL image is a render from LEGO, and Rebrickable
has a link to its (now non-existent) page on Brickset.
— Rebrickable has it as an alternate for
 
Part No: 48723  Name: Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Pin Hole
* 
48723 Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector
— LDraw has a 3D model.
— I think I remember it being shown on some site (NewElementary?) but I can’t
find it.

Cancelled? Postponed?
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  Hi,

What’s the deal with
 
Part No: 3803  Name: Technic, Pin Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Pin Hole
* 
3803 Technic, Pin Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector

The part has been added to the catalogue but is not in any set.

— Brickset doesn’t have it anymore.
  “Anymore” because, obviously, the BL image is a render from LEGO, and Rebrickable
has a link to its (now non-existent) page on Brickset.
— Rebrickable has it as an alternate for
 
Part No: 48723  Name: Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Pin Hole
* 
48723 Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector
— LDraw has a 3D model.
— I think I remember it being shown on some site (NewElementary?) but I can’t
find it.

Cancelled? Postponed?

It is available in PaB since 18/01/23 so it could be that was designed for a
set but was not used in the final release.
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Feb 14, 2024 05:22
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  Hi,

What’s the deal with
 
Part No: 3803  Name: Technic, Pin Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Pin Hole
* 
3803 Technic, Pin Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector

The part has been added to the catalogue but is not in any set.

— Brickset doesn’t have it anymore.
  “Anymore” because, obviously, the BL image is a render from LEGO, and Rebrickable
has a link to its (now non-existent) page on Brickset.
— Rebrickable has it as an alternate for
 
Part No: 48723  Name: Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Pin Hole
* 
48723 Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector
— LDraw has a 3D model.
— I think I remember it being shown on some site (NewElementary?) but I can’t
find it.

Cancelled? Postponed?

Rebrickable is correct. Part 48723 is no longer in production and has been replaced
with 68888 and 3803. 48723 has an axle hole on one side and a pin hole on the
other side. Most sets require the axle hole, so 68888 can be used as an alternate
part. But in set 71043 the pin hole is needed, therefore later copies of that
set probably come with 3803. Maybe that is already the case, but we need proof
from a sealed set before we can add the alternate part.

 
Part No: 68888  Name: Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Axle Hole
* 
68888 Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Axle Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector
 
Set No: 71043  Name: Hogwarts Castle
* 
71043-1 (Inv) Hogwarts Castle
5975 Parts, 28 Minifigures, 2018
Sets: Harry Potter: Sculptures
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
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Rebrickable is correct.

Well, not completely correct if 3803 and 48723 are functionally different


   Part 48723 is no longer in production and has been replaced
with 68888 and 3803. 48723 has an axle hole on one side and a pin hole on the
other side. Most sets require the axle hole, so 68888 can be used as an alternate
part. But in set 71043 the pin hole is needed, therefore later copies of that
set probably come with 3803. Maybe that is already the case, but we need proof
from a sealed set before we can add the alternate part.

Understood but what I found strange is that:

1. It’s already in the catalogue while it’s not in any set yet.  But then Stellar
is saying it’s in PaB… but then a second question arises: why is it not in
 
Set No: pab2023  Name: Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2023 Parts
* 
pab2023-1 (Inv) Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2023 Parts
61 Parts, 2023
Sets: LEGO Brand
Marked for Deletion
?  Too late?  And it’s still too early for
 
Set No: pab2024  Name: Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2024 Parts
* 
pab2024-1 (Inv) Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2024 Parts
28 Parts, 2024
Sets: LEGO Brand
Marked for Deletion
?

2. It has disappeared from Brickset.  But then it’s a question for Brickset I
guess
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  […]
Rebrickable is correct.

Well, not completely correct if 3803 and 48723 are functionally different


   Part 48723 is no longer in production and has been replaced
with 68888 and 3803. 48723 has an axle hole on one side and a pin hole on the
other side. Most sets require the axle hole, so 68888 can be used as an alternate
part. But in set 71043 the pin hole is needed, therefore later copies of that
set probably come with 3803. Maybe that is already the case, but we need proof
from a sealed set before we can add the alternate part.

Understood but what I found strange is that:

1. It’s already in the catalogue while it’s not in any set yet.  But then Stellar
is saying it’s in PaB… but then a second question arises: why is it not in
 
Set No: pab2023  Name: Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2023 Parts
* 
pab2023-1 (Inv) Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2023 Parts
61 Parts, 2023
Sets: LEGO Brand
Marked for Deletion
?  Too late?  And it’s still too early for
 
Set No: pab2024  Name: Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2024 Parts
* 
pab2024-1 (Inv) Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2024 Parts
28 Parts, 2024
Sets: LEGO Brand
Marked for Deletion
?

We just hadn't thought about adding it to the PaB sets because it was quite
obvious that it will show up in 71043 sooner or later.

  
2. It has disappeared from Brickset.  But then it’s a question for Brickset I
guess

I don't think it has been added to Brickset yet. I don't know how exactly
they import their parts data from LEGO, but apparently they don't always
update inventories of older sets to account for new variants that show up in
the official online parts list.
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  […]
  2. It has disappeared from Brickset.  But then it’s a question for Brickset I
guess

I don't think it has been added to Brickset yet. I don't know how exactly
they import their parts data from LEGO, but apparently they don't always
update inventories of older sets to account for new variants that show up in
the official online parts list.

Hmm, possible.  I was assuming that because Rebrickable linked to the Brickset
page for that part, then that page had to exist at some point.  But maybe RB
is just assuming the page exists or will exist soon.
“‘Assume’ is making….”
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  […]
Rebrickable is correct.

Well, not completely correct if 3803 and 48723 are functionally different


   Part 48723 is no longer in production and has been replaced
with 68888 and 3803. 48723 has an axle hole on one side and a pin hole on the
other side. Most sets require the axle hole, so 68888 can be used as an alternate
part. But in set 71043 the pin hole is needed, therefore later copies of that
set probably come with 3803. Maybe that is already the case, but we need proof
from a sealed set before we can add the alternate part.

Understood but what I found strange is that:

1. It’s already in the catalogue while it’s not in any set yet.  But then Stellar
is saying it’s in PaB… but then a second question arises: why is it not in
 
Set No: pab2023  Name: Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2023 Parts
* 
pab2023-1 (Inv) Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2023 Parts
61 Parts, 2023
Sets: LEGO Brand
Marked for Deletion
?  Too late?  And it’s still too early for
 
Set No: pab2024  Name: Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2024 Parts
* 
pab2024-1 (Inv) Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2024 Parts
28 Parts, 2024
Sets: LEGO Brand
Marked for Deletion
?

We just hadn't thought about adding it to the PaB sets because it was quite
obvious that it will show up in 71043 sooner or later.

  
2. It has disappeared from Brickset.  But then it’s a question for Brickset I
guess

I don't think it has been added to Brickset yet. I don't know how exactly
they import their parts data from LEGO, but apparently they don't always
update inventories of older sets to account for new variants that show up in
the official online parts list.

Brickset checks set inventories. Since this isn't in a set inventory, they
wouldn't find it.
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In Catalog, WOLKsite writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  2. It has disappeared from Brickset.  But then it’s a question for Brickset I
guess

I don't think it has been added to Brickset yet. I don't know how exactly
they import their parts data from LEGO, but apparently they don't always
update inventories of older sets to account for new variants that show up in
the official online parts list.

Brickset checks set inventories. Since this isn't in a set inventory, they
wouldn't find it.

It is in the 71043 inventory:
https://www.bricklink.com/r3/inventorycomparison/main.page?sourceB=1&invB=71043&sourceA=0&invA=71043-1
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, WOLKsite writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  2. It has disappeared from Brickset.  But then it’s a question for Brickset I
guess

I don't think it has been added to Brickset yet. I don't know how exactly
they import their parts data from LEGO, but apparently they don't always
update inventories of older sets to account for new variants that show up in
the official online parts list.

Brickset checks set inventories. Since this isn't in a set inventory, they
wouldn't find it.

It is in the 71043 inventory:
https://www.bricklink.com/r3/inventorycomparison/main.page?sourceB=1&invB=71043&sourceA=0&invA=71043-1

Ah, then I don't know why it hasn't been updated, given that a lot older
sets have been updated recently (such as with the introduction of part 93571,
annoyingly).
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  Hi,

What’s the deal with
 
Part No: 3803  Name: Technic, Pin Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Pin Hole
* 
3803 Technic, Pin Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector

The part has been added to the catalogue but is not in any set.

— Brickset doesn’t have it anymore.
  “Anymore” because, obviously, the BL image is a render from LEGO, and Rebrickable
has a link to its (now non-existent) page on Brickset.
— Rebrickable has it as an alternate for
 
Part No: 48723  Name: Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Pin Hole
* 
48723 Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector
— LDraw has a 3D model.
— I think I remember it being shown on some site (NewElementary?) but I can’t
find it.

Cancelled? Postponed?

Rebrickable is correct. Part 48723 is no longer in production and has been replaced
with 68888 and 3803. 48723 has an axle hole on one side and a pin hole on the
other side. Most sets require the axle hole, so 68888 can be used as an alternate
part. But in set 71043 the pin hole is needed, therefore later copies of that
set probably come with 3803. Maybe that is already the case, but we need proof
from a sealed set before we can add the alternate part.

 
Part No: 68888  Name: Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Axle Hole
* 
68888 Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Axle Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector
 
Set No: 71043  Name: Hogwarts Castle
* 
71043-1 (Inv) Hogwarts Castle
5975 Parts, 28 Minifigures, 2018
Sets: Harry Potter: Sculptures

Solved now

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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  Hi,

What’s the deal with
 
Part No: 3803  Name: Technic, Pin Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Pin Hole
* 
3803 Technic, Pin Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector

The part has been added to the catalogue but is not in any set.

— Brickset doesn’t have it anymore.
  “Anymore” because, obviously, the BL image is a render from LEGO, and Rebrickable
has a link to its (now non-existent) page on Brickset.
— Rebrickable has it as an alternate for
 
Part No: 48723  Name: Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Pin Hole
* 
48723 Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector
— LDraw has a 3D model.
— I think I remember it being shown on some site (NewElementary?) but I can’t
find it.

Cancelled? Postponed?

There's also
 
Part No: 3766  Name: Plate, Round 4 x 6 Oval
* 
3766 Plate, Round 4 x 6 Oval
Parts: Plate, Round {White}
Maybe it's an alternate for two of the half-plates (18980)?
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In Catalog, WOLKsite writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  Hi,

What’s the deal with
 
Part No: 3803  Name: Technic, Pin Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Pin Hole
* 
3803 Technic, Pin Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector

The part has been added to the catalogue but is not in any set.

— Brickset doesn’t have it anymore.
  “Anymore” because, obviously, the BL image is a render from LEGO, and Rebrickable
has a link to its (now non-existent) page on Brickset.
— Rebrickable has it as an alternate for
 
Part No: 48723  Name: Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Pin Hole
* 
48723 Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector
— LDraw has a 3D model.
— I think I remember it being shown on some site (NewElementary?) but I can’t
find it.

Cancelled? Postponed?

There's also
 
Part No: 3766  Name: Plate, Round 4 x 6 Oval
* 
3766 Plate, Round 4 x 6 Oval
Parts: Plate, Round {White}
Maybe it's an alternate for two of the half-plates (18980)?

BL will be merging entries for them shortly.
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In Catalog, rtzx9r writes:
  In Catalog, WOLKsite writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  Hi,

What’s the deal with
 
Part No: 3803  Name: Technic, Pin Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Pin Hole
* 
3803 Technic, Pin Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector

The part has been added to the catalogue but is not in any set.

— Brickset doesn’t have it anymore.
  “Anymore” because, obviously, the BL image is a render from LEGO, and Rebrickable
has a link to its (now non-existent) page on Brickset.
— Rebrickable has it as an alternate for
 
Part No: 48723  Name: Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Pin Hole
* 
48723 Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector
— LDraw has a 3D model.
— I think I remember it being shown on some site (NewElementary?) but I can’t
find it.

Cancelled? Postponed?

There's also
 
Part No: 3766  Name: Plate, Round 4 x 6 Oval
* 
3766 Plate, Round 4 x 6 Oval
Parts: Plate, Round {White}
Maybe it's an alternate for two of the half-plates (18980)?

BL will be merging entries for them shortly.

OK I took note.

BrickLink will soon merge Technic Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars, with Plate
Round 4 x 6 Oval.

Seems fine and legit to me, thank you!
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In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:
  In Catalog, rtzx9r writes:
  In Catalog, WOLKsite writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  Hi,

What’s the deal with
 
Part No: 3803  Name: Technic, Pin Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Pin Hole
* 
3803 Technic, Pin Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Through Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector

The part has been added to the catalogue but is not in any set.

— Brickset doesn’t have it anymore.
  “Anymore” because, obviously, the BL image is a render from LEGO, and Rebrickable
has a link to its (now non-existent) page on Brickset.
— Rebrickable has it as an alternate for
 
Part No: 48723  Name: Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Pin Hole
* 
48723 Technic, Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars and Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector
— LDraw has a 3D model.
— I think I remember it being shown on some site (NewElementary?) but I can’t
find it.

Cancelled? Postponed?

There's also
 
Part No: 3766  Name: Plate, Round 4 x 6 Oval
* 
3766 Plate, Round 4 x 6 Oval
Parts: Plate, Round {White}
Maybe it's an alternate for two of the half-plates (18980)?

BL will be merging entries for them shortly.

OK I took note.

BrickLink will soon merge Technic Axle Connector Hub with 4 Bars, with Plate
Round 4 x 6 Oval.

Seems fine and legit to me, thank you!