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Why hasn't this been inventoried yet? It's been out for 2 months now
and it's only 110 pieces. It has the exclusive Levi's logo that I want,
but I can't buy because it's not in the catalog. And I'm not paying
$40 just to tear open a sealed bag for a few 1x1 tiles  It would be a costly
crime. I think a lot of people want to keep it sealed, but there have to be at
least a few people who are willing to open it, or already have.
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 10, 2020 15:39 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, ybtfbiwgw writes:
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Why hasn't this been inventoried yet? It's been out for 2 months now
and it's only 110 pieces. It has the exclusive Levi's logo that I want,
but I can't buy because it's not in the catalog. And I'm not paying
$40 just to tear open a sealed bag for a few 1x1 tiles It would be a costly
crime. I think a lot of people want to keep it sealed, but there have to be at
least a few people who are willing to open it, or already have.
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I didn't know about it, but who is it $40?
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| | | | | | | Author: | wyvern | | Posted: | Dec 10, 2020 16:25 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, ybtfbiwgw writes:
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Why hasn't this been inventoried yet? It's been out for 2 months now
and it's only 110 pieces. It has the exclusive Levi's logo that I want,
but I can't buy because it's not in the catalog. And I'm not paying
$40 just to tear open a sealed bag for a few 1x1 tiles It would be a costly
crime. I think a lot of people want to keep it sealed, but there have to be at
least a few people who are willing to open it, or already have.
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I didn't know about it, but who is it $40?
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Here on BrickLink. Before I posted, 5 people had it for sale, but it's down
to 3, with 2 sold in the December price guide... It seems my post served as a
free ad! You're welcome, sellers 
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| | | | | Author: | Anthony_NL | | Posted: | Dec 10, 2020 15:45 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, ybtfbiwgw writes:
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Why hasn't this been inventoried yet? It's been out for 2 months now
and it's only 110 pieces. It has the exclusive Levi's logo that I want,
but I can't buy because it's not in the catalog. And I'm not paying
$40 just to tear open a sealed bag for a few 1x1 tiles It would be a costly
crime. I think a lot of people want to keep it sealed, but there have to be at
least a few people who are willing to open it, or already have.
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It hasn't been inventored yet, because nobody that has the set has done it.
In the first year after release, only people who actually have it can do it.
The only thing you can do is wait for it to be inventored or buy the part somewhere
else before it happens. After a year, you can list the inventory using another
source than having the set in hand.
Regards,
Anthony.
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 10, 2020 15:47 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, ybtfbiwgw writes:
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Why hasn't this been inventoried yet? It's been out for 2 months now
and it's only 110 pieces. It has the exclusive Levi's logo that I want,
but I can't buy because it's not in the catalog. And I'm not paying
$40 just to tear open a sealed bag for a few 1x1 tiles It would be a costly
crime. I think a lot of people want to keep it sealed, but there have to be at
least a few people who are willing to open it, or already have.
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Looks like you have to buy some tacky clothing at levi.com to get it and almost
everything is sold out.
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| | | | | | | Author: | bje | | Posted: | Dec 10, 2020 15:50 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, ybtfbiwgw writes:
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Why hasn't this been inventoried yet? It's been out for 2 months now
and it's only 110 pieces. It has the exclusive Levi's logo that I want,
but I can't buy because it's not in the catalog. And I'm not paying
$40 just to tear open a sealed bag for a few 1x1 tiles It would be a costly
crime. I think a lot of people want to keep it sealed, but there have to be at
least a few people who are willing to open it, or already have.
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Looks like you have to buy some tacky clothing at levi.com to get it and almost
everything is sold out.
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It is available here with the sewatshirt, but it is summer now and it costs $100.
I do not pay that much for clothes - even with the promise of exclusive LEGO.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 10, 2020 15:53 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, bje writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, ybtfbiwgw writes:
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Why hasn't this been inventoried yet? It's been out for 2 months now
and it's only 110 pieces. It has the exclusive Levi's logo that I want,
but I can't buy because it's not in the catalog. And I'm not paying
$40 just to tear open a sealed bag for a few 1x1 tiles It would be a costly
crime. I think a lot of people want to keep it sealed, but there have to be at
least a few people who are willing to open it, or already have.
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Looks like you have to buy some tacky clothing at levi.com to get it and almost
everything is sold out.
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It is available here with the sewatshirt, but it is summer now and it costs $100.
I do not pay that much for clothes - even with the promise of exclusive LEGO.
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But you could sell those dots in your store for over $1.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | starbeanie | | Posted: | Dec 10, 2020 15:58 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| It has 8 of the Levi logo in the set.
In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, bje writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, ybtfbiwgw writes:
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Why hasn't this been inventoried yet? It's been out for 2 months now
and it's only 110 pieces. It has the exclusive Levi's logo that I want,
but I can't buy because it's not in the catalog. And I'm not paying
$40 just to tear open a sealed bag for a few 1x1 tiles It would be a costly
crime. I think a lot of people want to keep it sealed, but there have to be at
least a few people who are willing to open it, or already have.
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Looks like you have to buy some tacky clothing at levi.com to get it and almost
everything is sold out.
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It is available here with the sewatshirt, but it is summer now and it costs $100.
I do not pay that much for clothes - even with the promise of exclusive LEGO.
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But you could sell those dots in your store for over $1.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bje | | Posted: | Dec 10, 2020 16:06 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, bje writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, ybtfbiwgw writes:
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Why hasn't this been inventoried yet? It's been out for 2 months now
and it's only 110 pieces. It has the exclusive Levi's logo that I want,
but I can't buy because it's not in the catalog. And I'm not paying
$40 just to tear open a sealed bag for a few 1x1 tiles It would be a costly
crime. I think a lot of people want to keep it sealed, but there have to be at
least a few people who are willing to open it, or already have.
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Looks like you have to buy some tacky clothing at levi.com to get it and almost
everything is sold out.
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It is available here with the sewatshirt, but it is summer now and it costs $100.
I do not pay that much for clothes - even with the promise of exclusive LEGO.
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But you could sell those dots in your store for over $1.
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Nah, the normal dots parts certainly not. I think there are 8 or so exclusive
tiles in the packet and they won't sell for $12.50 each I should think.
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| | | | | Author: | wahiggin | | Posted: | Dec 10, 2020 20:44 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, ybtfbiwgw writes:
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Why hasn't this been inventoried yet? It's been out for 2 months now
and it's only 110 pieces. It has the exclusive Levi's logo that I want,
but I can't buy because it's not in the catalog. And I'm not paying
$40 just to tear open a sealed bag for a few 1x1 tiles It would be a costly
crime. I think a lot of people want to keep it sealed, but there have to be at
least a few people who are willing to open it, or already have.
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Since LEGO owns BrickLink, it seems like they could provide inventories of their
sets as they are released.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Dec 10, 2020 21:35 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 144 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, wahiggin writes:
| | In Catalog, ybtfbiwgw writes:
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Why hasn't this been inventoried yet? It's been out for 2 months now
and it's only 110 pieces. It has the exclusive Levi's logo that I want,
but I can't buy because it's not in the catalog. And I'm not paying
$40 just to tear open a sealed bag for a few 1x1 tiles It would be a costly
crime. I think a lot of people want to keep it sealed, but there have to be at
least a few people who are willing to open it, or already have.
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Since LEGO owns BrickLink, it seems like they could provide inventories of their
sets as they are released.
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To my knowledge, the LEGO Group does not have sealed-set contents data that they
can pass on to us. They know what is supposed to come in any given set, but BrickLink
inventories are based on what is actually found inside a sealed product.
There are also some obstacles when it comes to naming new parts (especially those
with printed patterns) and finding a place for them in our system. This is something
we do on BrickLink as part of the larger inventory upload process.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | starbeanie | | Posted: | Dec 11, 2020 08:35 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| [p= 3070bpb181]
is now pending 
In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, wahiggin writes:
| | In Catalog, ybtfbiwgw writes:
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Why hasn't this been inventoried yet? It's been out for 2 months now
and it's only 110 pieces. It has the exclusive Levi's logo that I want,
but I can't buy because it's not in the catalog. And I'm not paying
$40 just to tear open a sealed bag for a few 1x1 tiles It would be a costly
crime. I think a lot of people want to keep it sealed, but there have to be at
least a few people who are willing to open it, or already have.
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Since LEGO owns BrickLink, it seems like they could provide inventories of their
sets as they are released.
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To my knowledge, the LEGO Group does not have sealed-set contents data that they
can pass on to us. They know what is supposed to come in any given set, but BrickLink
inventories are based on what is actually found inside a sealed product.
There are also some obstacles when it comes to naming new parts (especially those
with printed patterns) and finding a place for them in our system. This is something
we do on BrickLink as part of the larger inventory upload process.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | wyvern | | Posted: | Dec 13, 2020 14:06 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, starbeanie writes:
| | [p= 3070bpb181]
is now pending
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Thanks, I appreciate it! And now I lie in wait lol.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | misbi | | Posted: | Dec 13, 2020 07:01 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | There are also some obstacles when it comes to naming new parts
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And the ongoing problem that BL Dark Green is a completely different colour to
TLG's Dark Green 🙄
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | CrazyChris | | Posted: | Dec 13, 2020 07:12 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | To my knowledge, the LEGO Group does not have sealed-set contents data that they
can pass on to us. They know what is supposed to come in any given set, but BrickLink
inventories are based on what is actually found inside a sealed product.
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That's the weirdest answer I've ever heard.
TLG is able to print a fill inventory at the end of many building instructions.
Why not start with this data?
If real sealed sets show differences (how often did this happen?), then the initial
data can be corrected or enhanced.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bje | | Posted: | Dec 13, 2020 07:39 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, CrazyChris writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | To my knowledge, the LEGO Group does not have sealed-set contents data that they
can pass on to us. They know what is supposed to come in any given set, but BrickLink
inventories are based on what is actually found inside a sealed product.
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That's the weirdest answer I've ever heard.
TLG is able to print a fill inventory at the end of many building instructions.
Why not start with this data?
If real sealed sets show differences (how often did this happen?), then the initial
data can be corrected or enhanced.
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Not all sets have parts lists in the instructions. This applies to newer as well
as older sets;
Not all parts lists are on TLG's website;
Not all parts lists on TLG's website are complete;
New parts needs dimensions, weights and packing dimensions for the catalogue
- TLG does not supply that;
Real sealed sets often show differences (check inventories for alternates);
Last but not least - the data TLG releases is filled in when an inventory is
first loaded. I've done more than a few inventories in my time and I doubt
I've ever had one that was 100% correct from the TLG available data.
This is of course where the classic site has always needed volunteers. In XP
BrickLink is going it alone - so presumably it might well be that you end up
with a catalogue over there which will include inventories only available as
TLG releases same.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 13, 2020 08:12 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, CrazyChris writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | To my knowledge, the LEGO Group does not have sealed-set contents data that they
can pass on to us. They know what is supposed to come in any given set, but BrickLink
inventories are based on what is actually found inside a sealed product.
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That's the weirdest answer I've ever heard.
TLG is able to print a fill inventory at the end of many building instructions.
Why not start with this data?
If real sealed sets show differences (how often did this happen?), then the initial
data can be corrected or enhanced.
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To boil what bje said down to the simplest, what you describe IS what happens.
We just do the correcting and enhancing before publishing it.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Dec 13, 2020 08:26 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, CrazyChris writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | To my knowledge, the LEGO Group does not have sealed-set contents data that they
can pass on to us. They know what is supposed to come in any given set, but BrickLink
inventories are based on what is actually found inside a sealed product.
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That's the weirdest answer I've ever heard.
TLG is able to print a fill inventory at the end of many building instructions.
Why not start with this data?
If real sealed sets show differences (how often did this happen?), then the initial
data can be corrected or enhanced.
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To boil what bje said down to the simplest, what you describe IS what happens.
We just do the correcting and enhancing before publishing it.
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I think there is something to be said about cataloguing what is actually in the
set without reference to Lego's official inventory. For example, if you read
that there are supposed to be two lime 1x1 round plates, you might see two even
though there are three (and it's virtually guaranteed that there will be
three even if there are supposed to be two).
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 13, 2020 11:31 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
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I think there is something to be said about cataloguing what is actually in the
set without reference to Lego's official inventory. For example, if you read
that there are supposed to be two lime 1x1 round plates, you might see two even
though there are three
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That’s why using LEGO’s data is both a help and a hindrance.
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three even if there are supposed to be two).
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Actually, no
Since a couple of years, for some parts and some factories, when the needed quantity
(for one baggie) is an even number, then there’s no extras.
So if you need 2 to build, LEGO will put 2 in the baggie.
And if you need 3 to build, LEGO will put 4 in the baggie.
(Unless there’s an error.)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Dec 13, 2020 12:35 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
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I think there is something to be said about cataloguing what is actually in the
set without reference to Lego's official inventory. For example, if you read
that there are supposed to be two lime 1x1 round plates, you might see two even
though there are three
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That’s why using LEGO’s data is both a help and a hindrance.
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three even if there are supposed to be two).
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Actually, no
Since a couple of years, for some parts and some factories, when the needed quantity
(for one baggie) is an even number, then there’s no extras.
So if you need 2 to build, LEGO will put 2 in the baggie.
And if you need 3 to build, LEGO will put 4 in the baggie.
(Unless there’s an error.)
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That might be what I noticed a couple times, when there is multiple different
very small parts in a little baggie, only some had extra and quantities were
the same in multiple copies of the set.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 13, 2020 12:52 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
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I think there is something to be said about cataloguing what is actually in the
set without reference to Lego's official inventory. For example, if you read
that there are supposed to be two lime 1x1 round plates, you might see two even
though there are three
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That’s why using LEGO’s data is both a help and a hindrance.
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three even if there are supposed to be two).
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Actually, no
Since a couple of years, for some parts and some factories, when the needed quantity
(for one baggie) is an even number, then there’s no extras.
So if you need 2 to build, LEGO will put 2 in the baggie.
And if you need 3 to build, LEGO will put 4 in the baggie.
(Unless there’s an error.)
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I saw that for much of 2018, but I haven't seen it since. I think they got
more requests for replacement pieces and decided that they were just being cheap.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 13, 2020 13:04 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
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| | Actually, no
Since a couple of years, for some parts and some factories, when the needed quantity
(for one baggie) is an even number, then there’s no extras.
So if you need 2 to build, LEGO will put 2 in the baggie.
And if you need 3 to build, LEGO will put 4 in the baggie.
(Unless there’s an error.)
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I saw that for much of 2018, but I haven't seen it since. I think they got
more requests for replacement pieces and decided that they were just being cheap.
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I’m still seeing it. I think it’s prevalent in Europe factories.
TLG’s Perceived Quality guy also said something about being able to accurately
weight by pairs (even numbers). I took that as confirmation: they don’t count
and add one, they weight and therefore count by pairs.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Dec 13, 2020 11:41 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, CrazyChris writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | To my knowledge, the LEGO Group does not have sealed-set contents data that they
can pass on to us. They know what is supposed to come in any given set, but BrickLink
inventories are based on what is actually found inside a sealed product.
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That's the weirdest answer I've ever heard.
TLG is able to print a fill inventory at the end of many building instructions.
Why not start with this data?
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The inventoring process usually starts with the data that is available from the
consumer service replacement parts website (this data is also shown at Brickset.com
and is mostly about 90-99% complete). So it is more about checking and correcting
that data than building the complete inventory from scratch.
But there are some things which are not offered by TLG and therefore have to
be done manually, like minifigure entries and inventories, extra parts or names
of printed parts (official names are just "MINI HEAD, NO. 3299", "MINI CREATURE
HEAD, NO. 16", "MINI LOWER PART, NO. 1951", "MINI UPPER PART, NO. 5287", "FLAT
TILE 1X4, NO. 155" etc.).
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To my surprise it happens quite often. A few examples:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=31108-1 (see inventory note at
the bottom)
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=31109-1 (see inventory note at
the bottom)
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According to official data sets as of summer 2020 should come with a new clip
variant
But in fact the sets still came with
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According to official data this set
and a few other new sets should come with some new printed parts (see https://www.newelementary.com/2020/11/lego-pieces-november-20-rebrickable.html.html
- especially the comments), but in fact at least the earlier copies still have
the older variants like
[p=3069bpc1]
[p=3070bp07]
I think this clearly shows the difference between official parts lists vs. actual
set contents.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 13, 2020 12:14 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Turez writes:
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To my surprise it happens quite often. A few examples:
[… great examples …]
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These can be easily explained by the fact that TLG doesn’t care about variants:
they make a new mould/print, it replaces the old mould/print, end of the discussion.
So, between:
1. the use of the stocks of parts made with the old mould/print,
2. the delay between production and distribution, and the publication of the
list,
3. the fact that, anyway, the old mould/print is REPLACED by the new mould/print
in TLG’s databases, and the old mould/print is FORGOTTEN by TLG,
I’d say the chances for differences to happen are pretty high.
And therefore we are happy to have superpeople (like Turez, the catmins and,
actually, many others) who can spot these differences blindfolded 
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Dec 13, 2020 12:29 | | Subject: | Re: Why not Inventory the Levi's Dots Bag? | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, CrazyChris writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | To my knowledge, the LEGO Group does not have sealed-set contents data that they
can pass on to us. They know what is supposed to come in any given set, but BrickLink
inventories are based on what is actually found inside a sealed product.
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That's the weirdest answer I've ever heard.
TLG is able to print a fill inventory at the end of many building instructions.
Why not start with this data?
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In fact, when you try to create an inventory to a new set, Bricklink asks you
if you want to fill it with the Lego Official Inventory data, then you can make
changes or additions to reflect what was really inside the box.
| | If real sealed sets show differences (how often did this happen?), then the initial
data can be corrected or enhanced.
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