| Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | HarryPotter71  | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2017 18:10 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Wanted List Spamming for Minifigs | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, waltzking writes:
| | Of late I am regularly getting spammed through the wanted list feature for minifigures
listed either under the wrong listing or as an incomplete "new" figure.
With the current system all figures are under the same either "new" or "used"
condition heading, but unlike sets can be listed from a few parts (everything
missing but the torso and head) or complete per the correct inventory of that
figure. This not only opens sellers to "acceptably" list wrong items, or worse
in a deceptive manner (such as the new Loki sh033a in the old Loki sh033), by
simply adding a comment like "missing cape" or "new style cape".
Clearly these are not what a buyer wants to be notified of through their wanted
list settings. Such incomplete or incorrect items also have a negative effect
toward useful sales info, or even current items for sale info. WHish is what
leads to my suggestion....
Please, can we have the same "Complete" and "Incomplete" sub-conditions for
figures like we have for sets?
This will effectively require sellers to list items accurately. If they are
not the exact item they must be listed as "Incomplete" and can then either be
excluded from search and history, or reported for misuse. Figures are a large
part of the value of a set, so if a set can't be listed without a sub-condition,
it would follow that figures (which to many are the most collectable items LEGO
makes) should have the same requirement.
Thanks for considering.
Jonathan
waltzking
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Hi Jonathan, I don't understand why people don't just part the figure
out myself. Listing it without a head, hair or torso? Really? Just part it out
Have a great evening.
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| Author: | mhortar | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2017 17:08 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Wanted List Spamming for Minifigs | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
| | I disagree. There are plenty of instances where someone sold a minifig that
was missing a cape (for example). I've probably bought several figs that
were missing something.
There's a market for these, so why not accommodate it by using complete/incomplete
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I agree. There is a market for incomplete figures where a piece is missing, which
is why such a feature is good for both buyers and sellers.
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I just wish there was a way to denote instances such as
[M=sw127] 'incomplete, missing jet pack'
is just
[M=sw126]
or
[M=sw109a] 'incomplete, missing pauldron'
is just
[M=sw036b]
Josh
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2017 16:50 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Wanted List Spamming for Minifigs | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Proprietor writes:
| | That was the practice a few years ago.
There are strict rules for creating the inventory of a minifigure. My belief
is that to sell the figure, it should include all correct parts; otherwise it's
not THE minifigure but a collection of similar parts. It messes up both sides
of the averages (sold and available).
But there is a contingency here that doesn't agree, often it seems because
historically accurate minifigs aren't a big part of their sales. When I
see a debate here that doesn't impact me much, such as including the historic
suggested retail list price of a set as they do on Brickset, I stay out of it,
even though I don't agree with the majority who don't want that info
easily available on BL.
I believe that sellers who specialize in used minifigs as well as buyers of older
figures detest the games played by sellers who sell parts under minifig listings
or who sell incomplete minifigures under the minifigure listing. If you want
to sell the figure as described, finish it properly, and if you don't want
the hassle, then part it out.
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There are also strict rules for sets. And you could apply the same logic, if
you want to sell the set, complete it and only allow complete sets on BL. Yet
BL recognises there is a market for incomplete sets so allows incomplete sets
to be sold without messing up the price guide. They could do the same for minifigs,
without affecting people that only want to buy or sell complete figures. If anything,
it would be better for them too if incomplete ones could be tagged that way as
BL don't seem to do anything about incomplete figures, so incomplete ones
do mess up the price guide.
They also recognise that some figures can be sold complete / incomplete according
to their rules by having two versions of a minifigs. Such as the ideas Ghostbusters
figures. There should be no need for two entries according to their rules but
there are two entries anyway.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2017 16:43 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Wanted List Spamming for Minifigs | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
| | I disagree. There are plenty of instances where someone sold a minifig that
was missing a cape (for example). I've probably bought several figs that
were missing something.
There's a market for these, so why not accommodate it by using complete/incomplete
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I agree. There is a market for incomplete figures where a piece is missing, which
is why such a feature is good for both buyers and sellers.
|
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| Author: | Proprietor | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2017 16:16 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Wanted List Spamming for Minifigs | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| That was the practice a few years ago.
There are strict rules for creating the inventory of a minifigure. My belief
is that to sell the figure, it should include all correct parts; otherwise it's
not THE minifigure but a collection of similar parts. It messes up both sides
of the averages (sold and available).
But there is a contingency here that doesn't agree, often it seems because
historically accurate minifigs aren't a big part of their sales. When I
see a debate here that doesn't impact me much, such as including the historic
suggested retail list price of a set as they do on Brickset, I stay out of it,
even though I don't agree with the majority who don't want that info
easily available on BL.
I believe that sellers who specialize in used minifigs as well as buyers of older
figures detest the games played by sellers who sell parts under minifig listings
or who sell incomplete minifigures under the minifigure listing. If you want
to sell the figure as described, finish it properly, and if you don't want
the hassle, then part it out.
And here's a similar open suggestion from 2010:
http://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=105117&nID=498385
In Suggestions, calebfishn writes:
| | A minifig is not a set.
I prefer a rule that makes clear that any "incomplete" listing is incorrect and
will be reported and removed.
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| Author: | tEoS | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2017 16:15 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Wanted List Spamming for Minifigs | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| I disagree. There are plenty of instances where someone sold a minifig that
was missing a cape (for example). I've probably bought several figs that
were missing something.
There's a market for these, so why not accommodate it by using complete/incomplete.
| | I prefer a rule that makes clear that any "incomplete" listing is incorrect and
will be reported and removed.
|
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| Author: | edk | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2017 16:11 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Wanted List Spamming for Minifigs | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, waltzking writes:
| | Of late I am regularly getting spammed through the wanted list feature for minifigures
listed either under the wrong listing or as an incomplete "new" figure.
With the current system all figures are under the same either "new" or "used"
condition heading, but unlike sets can be listed from a few parts (everything
missing but the torso and head) or complete per the correct inventory of that
figure. This not only opens sellers to "acceptably" list wrong items, or worse
in a deceptive manner (such as the new Loki sh033a in the old Loki sh033), by
simply adding a comment like "missing cape" or "new style cape".
Clearly these are not what a buyer wants to be notified of through their wanted
list settings. Such incomplete or incorrect items also have a negative effect
toward useful sales info, or even current items for sale info. WHish is what
leads to my suggestion....
Please, can we have the same "Complete" and "Incomplete" sub-conditions for
figures like we have for sets?
This will effectively require sellers to list items accurately. If they are
not the exact item they must be listed as "Incomplete" and can then either be
excluded from search and history, or reported for misuse. Figures are a large
part of the value of a set, so if a set can't be listed without a sub-condition,
it would follow that figures (which to many are the most collectable items LEGO
makes) should have the same requirement.
Thanks for considering.
Jonathan
waltzking
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From what I understand a mini-fig listing MUST be the complete figure.Anything
less can be reported and removed. If not a complete figure as inventoried it
is parts and should be listed as parts. Anything less than complete can be reported
and removed.
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| Author: | calebfishn | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2017 15:53 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Wanted List Spamming for Minifigs | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| A minifig is not a set.
I prefer a rule that makes clear that any "incomplete" listing is incorrect and
will be reported and removed.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2017 15:51 | | Subject: | Re: Auto-ban Users That Request Custom Form Fraud | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, MarieA writes:
| | […]
Off the top of my head I think it's
4.7% for the category of classification that includes Lego, but I might be wrong.
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That’s what I read too but it seems you can also “choose” a “flat duty tax” of
2.5% in certain circumstances.
Welcome to Byzantium. 
| | Most small packages sent via normal mail fly under the radar of customs and so
don't end up costing anything extra, but random spot checks can result in
charges, and often the highest charge is the administration fee levied by the
courier.
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Looking for the fee levied by La Poste (15 €), I found the Swiss Post takes CHF 16
+ 3% of the value, up to CHF 70.
Nice little cash cow postal services have there…
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2017 15:43 | | Subject: | Re: Auto-ban Users That Request Custom Form Fraud | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, legomalego writes:
| | Just to clarify though...
These would be taxes that the buyer would be paying whether they bought the product
within their own country or not. Correct?
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Yes and no.
From France, if I buy from my country or any EU country, VAT is either included
in the (VAT registered) seller’s prices or not applicable (hobby/not VAT registered
seller). Anyway I don’t pay anything more to get my package than what
I paid to the seller.
If I buy from outside EU (above 22 €) I have to pay VAT. And above 150 €, I (may,
depending on what I buy) have to pay duty.
I have to pay through the delivery services which will add their fee (as I read
it on their website (haven’t imported/had to pay for a while), 15 € for La Poste).
(Duty is on the product. VAT is on the product, the shipping, the insurance,
the duty, and the fee!)
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