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 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 3, 2024 13:02
 Subject: Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!

I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...

The trick is to save all the documents and not think about it until tax season,
then do nothing but taxes for 3 days straight and then forget about it until
the next tax season. Good money saver

3 days? 15 days, at least

Usually 1-2 days but what is you doing that takes 15 days 🦦…
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:56
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  3 days? 15 days, at least

That's because you sell too much!
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:55
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In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!

I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...

The trick is to save all the documents and not think about it until tax season,
then do nothing but taxes for 3 days straight and then forget about it until
the next tax season. Good money saver

3 days? 15 days, at least
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:46
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That’s a wild one 👁️👁️
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:45
 Subject: Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!

I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...

The trick is to save all the documents and not think about it until tax season,
then do nothing but taxes for 3 days straight and then forget about it until
the next tax season. Good money saver
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:39
 Subject: Re: Selling CMF's
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  Many sellers list CMFs that have been opened to check what they are and put into
a ziplock bag as a new(complete) set (but not new(sealed). This seems to have
been tolerated for the last decade and more, and is pretty much the standard
now. Obviously not listing them as new(sealed), just new(complete). I've
never had a complaint about not including the empty packet when selling like
that. The only complaint I ever had with one was when I included the empty packet
and the buyer complained I was sending them my rubbish.

I think it's one thing to not include a polybag, but the CMFs come in boxes
now.

They still need to be opened to identify them as they are meant to be blind packaged.
Of course, in some cases the barcodes can be used where known. In the same way
buyers don't care about ripped open foil packets for earlier series, I doubt
buyers will want sellers to be shipping the relatively large and heavy ripped
open boxes at the buyer's expense, just for them to be thrown away. If they
were meant to be identifiable without opening, it is a very different case.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:31
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  Many sellers list CMFs that have been opened to check what they are and put into
a ziplock bag as a new(complete) set (but not new(sealed). This seems to have
been tolerated for the last decade and more, and is pretty much the standard
now. Obviously not listing them as new(sealed), just new(complete). I've
never had a complaint about not including the empty packet when selling like
that. The only complaint I ever had with one was when I included the empty packet
and the buyer complained I was sending them my rubbish.

I think it's one thing to not include a polybag, but the CMFs come in boxes
now.
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:08
 Subject: Re: Selling CMF's
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Coren666 writes:
  I was wondering how one would sell the minifig cmf sets? I am selling them as
new but the substatus is somewhat hazy to me. A lot of sellers sell as new and
complete but throw away the box. I would rather (for storing purposes but also
for cheaper shipping) lose the box and sell them in a ziploc bag...

What is the policy on this? And how strict is it? If it is strict, I'm just
going to scan them and sell the boxes as is

You can't sell them as New, Complete without the box.

You can sell them as New, Incomplete OR you could part them out as sets and sell
the minifigures in zip bags.

Many sellers list CMFs that have been opened to check what they are and put into
a ziplock bag as a new(complete) set (but not new(sealed). This seems to have
been tolerated for the last decade and more, and is pretty much the standard
now. Obviously not listing them as new(sealed), just new(complete). I've
never had a complaint about not including the empty packet when selling like
that. The only complaint I ever had with one was when I included the empty packet
and the buyer complained I was sending them my rubbish.


Honestly I personally think the guidelines for complete sets should be changed.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:01
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Coren666 writes:
  I was wondering how one would sell the minifig cmf sets? I am selling them as
new but the substatus is somewhat hazy to me. A lot of sellers sell as new and
complete but throw away the box. I would rather (for storing purposes but also
for cheaper shipping) lose the box and sell them in a ziploc bag...

What is the policy on this? And how strict is it? If it is strict, I'm just
going to scan them and sell the boxes as is

You can't sell them as New, Complete without the box.

You can sell them as New, Incomplete OR you could part them out as sets and sell
the minifigures in zip bags.

Many sellers list CMFs that have been opened to check what they are and put into
a ziplock bag as a new(complete) set (but not new(sealed). This seems to have
been tolerated for the last decade and more, and is pretty much the standard
now. Obviously not listing them as new(sealed), just new(complete). I've
never had a complaint about not including the empty packet when selling like
that. The only complaint I ever had with one was when I included the empty packet
and the buyer complained I was sending them my rubbish.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 3, 2024 11:54
 Subject: Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee
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In Selling, 129samot writes:
  I recon this is done so you get more sales through the "auto select"
feature in "buy all"?
Or does the algorithm account for fees?

It doesn’t account for real shipping: it uses an average of “recent” “similar”
orders (it’s somewhere in the help I think); so I doubt it does anything with
fees.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 3, 2024 11:53
 Subject: Re: How to promote a sale?
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In Selling, Davidpkaiser2 writes:
  Hello, I’m a new seller with two sales under my belt. It’s been great so far.
I have a few cool Lego Star Wars sets for sale and I’m offering them at 20% off
because, well… May the 4th be with you.
With the sale, my prices are very competitive and I would like to promote it.
Is there a way to promote stuff on sale?

As Saitobricks.ca said: you simply make a post in the Sales topic.  That also
goes for advertising new items for sale.
In case of doubt, look at the topics’ descriptions: https://www.bricklink.com/messageTopics.asp

I moved this thread to Selling as it’s not properly an ad for your sale and you
can only do one such ad per month.
(To be clear: you only get one new thread per month; you can answer your post
for updates… provided it’s not a way to circumvent the limit.)

Also note that when you post in Sales, you post appears on the site’s main page
(scroll down a bit to see the current ones).
(That only works if you post in Sales, not when the post is moved to Sales.)

So, go and make a proper sale post in Sales!

Happy selling
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: May 3, 2024 11:41
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In Selling, Coren666 writes:
  I was wondering how one would sell the minifig cmf sets? I am selling them as
new but the substatus is somewhat hazy to me. A lot of sellers sell as new and
complete but throw away the box. I would rather (for storing purposes but also
for cheaper shipping) lose the box and sell them in a ziploc bag...

What is the policy on this? And how strict is it? If it is strict, I'm just
going to scan them and sell the boxes as is

You can't sell them as New, Complete without the box.

You can sell them as New, Incomplete OR you could part them out as sets and sell
the minifigures in zip bags.
 Author: Coren666 View Messages Posted By Coren666
 Posted: May 3, 2024 11:38
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I was wondering how one would sell the minifig cmf sets? I am selling them as
new but the substatus is somewhat hazy to me. A lot of sellers sell as new and
complete but throw away the box. I would rather (for storing purposes but also
for cheaper shipping) lose the box and sell them in a ziploc bag...

What is the policy on this? And how strict is it? If it is strict, I'm just
going to scan them and sell the boxes as is
 Author: 129samot View Messages Posted By 129samot
 Posted: May 3, 2024 11:17
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I recon this is done so you get more sales through the "auto select"
feature in "buy all"?
Or does the algorithm account for fees?
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: May 3, 2024 11:12
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In Sales, Davidpkaiser2 writes:
  Hello, I’m a new seller with two sales under my belt. It’s been great so far.
I have a few cool Lego Star Wars sets for sale and I’m offering them at 20% off
because, well… May the 4th be with you.
With the sale, my prices are very competitive and I would like to promote it.
Is there a way to promote stuff on sale?

Here on the forum, just select the sales topic and post about your sale.
 Author: Davidpkaiser2 View Messages Posted By Davidpkaiser2
 Posted: May 3, 2024 11:05
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Hello, I’m a new seller with two sales under my belt. It’s been great so far.
I have a few cool Lego Star Wars sets for sale and I’m offering them at 20% off
because, well… May the 4th be with you.
With the sale, my prices are very competitive and I would like to promote it.
Is there a way to promote stuff on sale?
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:38
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!

I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:35
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

Timothy Smith invented 15 years ago the BrickLink forum famous "Stamp licking
fee"
Loved this picture
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:34
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In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  And when I placed the order, the seller asked me to pay with Paypal "preferably
between Family and Friends, that would be nice"

This is strictly forbidden by PayPal and BrickLink - and somewhere probably by
EU Laws...
You could report this shop, or at least tell them and see if they change their
Terms?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:20
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:18
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  And when I placed the order, the seller asked me to pay with Paypal "preferably
between Family and Friends, that would be nice"

So, he add fees to the buyer but try to avoid them himself...

If they have said that in bricklink messages, rather than just by email, then
report it. They should be suspended for doing that.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:17
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In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."
 Author: Nicolasamico37 View Messages Posted By Nicolasamico37
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:15
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.

It says right in their terms that all electronic payments including PayPal which
is listed, you pay 3.5%. I know everything you are saying and I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying

You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.

Hi,

Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

Because I prefer to know before to pay how much it could be, I asked and had
this reply:
"These are bricklink, paypal, packaging fees, in general it is
between 1 and 2 € for small orders."

And when I placed the order, the seller asked me to pay with Paypal "preferably
between Family and Friends, that would be nice"

So, he add fees to the buyer but try to avoid them himself...
 Author: WildBricks View Messages Posted By WildBricks
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:03
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

As soon as I see that they are passing on their charges, I least favorite the
store.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 2, 2024 21:50
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, SezaR writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.


This is what i do and if a buyer choose to pay via bank transfer, no fee for
me, i reduce the percentage over total.
And this is what nearly no other canadian store offer 😕

I make things simple and just dont accept bank transfers


Bank transfer, that exists???

well we call it e-transfer, so technically yes

  I wish I could transfer you my bank!

They're just screaming at us as of right now

I just followed Chickaroo's rule: buy first think later!

 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, SezaR writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.


This is what i do and if a buyer choose to pay via bank transfer, no fee for
me, i reduce the percentage over total.
And this is what nearly no other canadian store offer 😕

I make things simple and just dont accept bank transfers


Bank transfer, that exists???

I wish I could transfer you my bank!

They're just screaming at us as of right now

I just followed Chickaroo's rule: buy first think later!
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 2, 2024 20:40
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In Selling, SezaR writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.


This is what i do and if a buyer choose to pay via bank transfer, no fee for
me, i reduce the percentage over total.
And this is what nearly no other canadian store offer 😕

I make things simple and just dont accept bank transfers
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: May 2, 2024 20:37
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.


This is what i do and if a buyer choose to pay via bank transfer, no fee for
me, i reduce the percentage over total.
And this is what nearly no other canadian store offer 😕

  So everyone else is wrong?
 Author: Amazingly View Messages Posted By Amazingly
 Posted: May 2, 2024 16:42
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  
  You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.

That is really the same as shopping elsewhere, if they want the parts. The helpdesk
is so slow, nothing will get done very quickly if reported.

Thanks for your time, and the others who commented.
I'm going to open the rest of the series 26 cases to see if I get one with
a yellow leg like the one posted this morning
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  It says in their terms that 3.5% is added for all electronic payments and it
was added to the order. Just wanted to make sure before I cause problems.

Added to the order at the time you placed it or added to the order at the time
of invoicing?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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  You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.

That is really the same as shopping elsewhere, if they want the parts. The helpdesk
is so slow, nothing will get done very quickly if reported.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 2, 2024 15:47
 Subject: Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.

It says right in their terms that all electronic payments including PayPal which
is listed, you pay 3.5%. I know everything you are saying and I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying

You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 2, 2024 15:32
 Subject: Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.

It says right in their terms that all electronic payments including PayPal which
is listed, you pay 3.5%. I know everything you are saying and I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying

You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.
 Author: Amazingly View Messages Posted By Amazingly
 Posted: May 2, 2024 15:28
 Subject: Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.

It says right in their terms that all electronic payments including PayPal which
is listed, you pay 3.5%. I know everything you are saying and I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 2, 2024 15:09
 Subject: Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 2, 2024 15:07
 Subject: Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Basically yes.

Your prices should includes your costs.

Like your Internet access cost isn't free; will you make an extra fee for
it?

Also: Rental (?), Insurance, Power bill, water, toilet paper, toner, bank fees,
accounting cost, stickers, salary, gas to go to the post office...
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 2, 2024 15:02
 Subject: Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Not specifically. You can charge everyone the same rate regardless of payment
method though.

Speaking only for myself, I tend not to order from stores that nickle-and-dime
buyers on fees.

+1

Of course I'll calculate and often it's still worth to buy with fees,
but I had to spend some time to calculate and compare

Which is why in a general meaning I try to avoid shops with fees.

Note conversion fees are quite difficult and may represent the most.

Say you've a 5% PayPal or payment fee (on order total only), but then you've
to pay in a specific currency (HUF?) then it's another 5% but on the whole
(including fees AND shipping).

In the end it's not at all as simple as 5+5, it's maybe 12 or 13% fees
you pay...
 Author: Amazingly View Messages Posted By Amazingly
 Posted: May 2, 2024 14:57
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 2, 2024 14:56
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.
 Author: Amazingly View Messages Posted By Amazingly
 Posted: May 2, 2024 14:52
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In Selling, runner.caller writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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I think using that verbiage is against paypal's TOS.

I also think someone else once mentioned that it's against paypal's TOS
to have a cheaper payment option than paypal if multiple options are available
at checkout. So if paypal is offered as a payment option, it can't be a higher
price than like a check or cash order. This was probably more relevant in the
days before onsite payments were required.

One thing I've questioned though is if it's just the verbiage.

So, in theory, a store could charge a 3.49% fee + 0.49 extra and call it an "admin
fee", "service fee", or "general fee", and be safe as long
as they didn't call it a "paypal fee".

It says in their terms that 3.5% is added for all electronic payments and it
was added to the order. Just wanted to make sure before I cause problems.
 Author: runner.caller View Messages Posted By runner.caller
 Posted: May 2, 2024 14:48
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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I think using that verbiage is against paypal's TOS.

I also think someone else once mentioned that it's against paypal's TOS
to have a cheaper payment option than paypal if multiple options are available
at checkout. So if paypal is offered as a payment option, it can't be a higher
price than like a check or cash order. This was probably more relevant in the
days before onsite payments were required.

One thing I've questioned though is if it's just the verbiage.

So, in theory, a store could charge a 3.49% fee + 0.49 extra and call it an "admin
fee", "service fee", or "general fee", and be safe as long
as they didn't call it a "paypal fee".
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: May 2, 2024 14:43
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Not specifically. You can charge everyone the same rate regardless of payment
method though.

Speaking only for myself, I tend not to order from stores that nickle-and-dime
buyers on fees.
 Author: BigBBricks View Messages Posted By BigBBricks
 Posted: May 2, 2024 14:39
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In Selling, BigBBricks writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Nope, fully against PayPal's terms and service in most countries. It was
changed pre-COVID but many stores, especially in Europe, try to do it. If you
find someone doing it, alert them to the rule and notify the BL staff as I think
it is against their rules as well.

Additionally, I believe the way the PP rule is written, if they specifically
state it is to cover PP fees or just fees, then it is against. If it is just
a fee that does not say that it is not specific, then it is allowable but cringe.
 Author: BigBBricks View Messages Posted By BigBBricks
 Posted: May 2, 2024 14:36
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Nope, fully against PayPal's terms and service in most countries. It was
changed pre-COVID but many stores, especially in Europe, try to do it. If you
find someone doing it, alert them to the rule and notify the BL staff as I think
it is against their rules as well.
 Author: Amazingly View Messages Posted By Amazingly
 Posted: May 2, 2024 14:33
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Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: May 1, 2024 21:11
 Subject: Re: Sticker Organization ideas
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In Selling, Dhobeck writes:
  In Selling, Captain_Q writes:
  Greetings fellow Bricklink sellers,

I have moved into a new place with more space and looking to reorganize my sticker
lots. I am currently using an accordion style folder organizer, which has been
ok but I have too many stickers so it is not the most ideal.

I am curious what every one else is using to organize their stickers?

Regards,
Quinton

please do not follow this info
before you store stickers you MUST ALWAYS remember to use them to make sure that
they are still sticky, then you store them and list them as used

Dark humour only LEGO fans get.
 Author: Dhobeck View Messages Posted By Dhobeck
 Posted: May 1, 2024 21:05
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In Selling, Captain_Q writes:
  Greetings fellow Bricklink sellers,

I have moved into a new place with more space and looking to reorganize my sticker
lots. I am currently using an accordion style folder organizer, which has been
ok but I have too many stickers so it is not the most ideal.

I am curious what every one else is using to organize their stickers?

Regards,
Quinton

please do not follow this info
before you store stickers you MUST ALWAYS remember to use them to make sure that
they are still sticky, then you store them and list them as used
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: May 1, 2024 21:03
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In Selling, rprebel writes:
  I use baseball card protector pages (9 slots to a page) for the smaller stickers
and other sizes for the larger ones. I just zip tied about a dozen of them together
as they're all the same overall 8.5x11 size with holes already in them. That
was 5 years ago and I'm still using it.

Brilliant! Where do you get a folder like that?
 Author: TheBrickGuys View Messages Posted By TheBrickGuys
 Posted: May 1, 2024 21:02
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In Selling, rprebel writes:
  I use baseball card protector pages (9 slots to a page) for the smaller stickers
and other sizes for the larger ones. I just zip tied about a dozen of them together
as they're all the same overall 8.5x11 size with holes already in them. That
was 5 years ago and I'm still using it.

That is a really good way of holding your stickers!! I especially like the fact
that you have several different stickers on each page. I am definitely going
to check into doing it that way.

Jim
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: May 1, 2024 17:38
 Subject: Re: Paid directly, how to pay Bricklink?
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In Selling, AntsScurrying writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, AntsScurrying writes:
  I had a buyer send money to my paypal direct instead of through Bricklink.

How do I get the Vat and fees to Bricklink to show that the buyer has paid and
I can get a VAT invoice?


unfortunately you cant. the only way to do it is to refund the buyer and have
them pay onsite
(as bricklink collects the tax via a "partner fee" on the transaction).

Done, thank you.

How could they send you payment directly?!

I guess you use the same exact email address for your PayPal account that you
have on BL. This is the exact reason you should change your PayPal account email
address so this doesn't happen agian.

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