Got a problem. A fresh, zero feedback buyer has auto-checked-out for Express
shipping.
VAT has been collected by BL so I have the BrickLink's VAT invoice with their
VAT ID. I use that ID for electronic declarations with regular post shipments
- no issues.
This time I have to choose between UPS and FedEx.
UPS has a specific field to enter an ID for 'Vendor Collect' and PVA
(Postponed VAT Accounting) situations. The description states that specifically
for UK it can be the VAT code. But when I am trying to input BL's GBxxxxxxxxx
(GB + 9 digits) the page gives me an error and suggests that the code should
be BG + 12 digits. Screenshot below. There is no other field.
Not sure it’s a good idea to post BL’s number (if you didn’t modify it) on the
forum.
(Yes, I know, it’s public info… but there’s rules like that for the IOSS.)
FedEx - they are only interested in asking who should they send the send the
bill for the import duties (and processing fees?). Besides selecting myself,
the only other two options are the 'receiver' or 'third party'.
Import duties and processing fees are for the receiver (buyer), not you, not
a third party (BL).
Import VAT is not a duty.
What I mean is that, for me, this field is not the field for the marketplace
VAT ID.
If 'third party' is selected - then a single new field appears asking
for the third party's FedEx client ID.
In other words - FedEx does not appear to have the option to add any sort of
tax payer ID electronically?
Has someone had a similar issue and have you found a way to do things correctly?
Got a problem. A fresh, zero feedback buyer has auto-checked-out for Express
shipping.
VAT has been collected by BL so I have the BrickLink's VAT invoice with their
VAT ID. I use that ID for electronic declarations with regular post shipments
- no issues.
This time I have to choose between UPS and FedEx.
UPS has a specific field to enter an ID for 'Vendor Collect' and PVA
(Postponed VAT Accounting) situations. The description states that specifically
for UK it can be the VAT code. But when I am trying to input BL's GBxxxxxxxxx
(GB + 9 digits) the page gives me an error and suggests that the code should
be BG + 12 digits. Screenshot below. There is no other field.
Not sure it’s a good idea to post BL’s number (if you didn’t modify it) on the
forum.
(Yes, I know, it’s public info… but there’s rules like that for the IOSS.)
FedEx - they are only interested in asking who should they send the send the
bill for the import duties (and processing fees?). Besides selecting myself,
the only other two options are the 'receiver' or 'third party'.
Import duties and processing fees are for the receiver (buyer), not you, not
a third party (BL).
Import VAT is not a duty.
What I mean is that, for me, this field is not the field for the marketplace
VAT ID.
If 'third party' is selected - then a single new field appears asking
for the third party's FedEx client ID.
In other words - FedEx does not appear to have the option to add any sort of
tax payer ID electronically?
Has someone had a similar issue and have you found a way to do things correctly?
Dammit. My bad. Cancelled the message, thanks for saving it.
In English menu there is no extended description, but in Lithuanian it says
"Įveskite siuntėjo „Vendor Collect“ ID (VCI) numerį. VCI nurodo siuntėjo
registracijos numerį, pvz., importo vieno langelio sistemos (IOSS) arba e. prekybos
pridėtinės vertės (VOEC) numerius, ir yra naudojamas nurodyti, kad pardavimo
vietoje pridėtinės vertės mokestis (PVM) buvo renkamas atsiskaitant už prekes,
siunčiamas į paskirties vietas, palengvinančias „Vendor Collect“ sistemą. Siuntoms
į JK ir NI galima įvesti PVM mokėtojo kodą arba EORI kodą, kad būtų galima taikyti
atidėtąją PVM apskaitą (PVA)."
Google translate does a good job in translating that to English. Can give no
guarantees about Vulgar Latin though
But yes, to my understanding - this is the field that should accept an UK VAT
ID. I mean - if not here then where else?
To which the page proceeds throwing me an error. Unless it is expecting a VAT
ID for NI and an EORI for UK?
[…]
In English menu there is no extended description, but in Lithuanian it says
"Įveskite siuntėjo „Vendor Collect“ ID (VCI) numerį. VCI nurodo siuntėjo
registracijos numerį, pvz., importo vieno langelio sistemos (IOSS) arba e. prekybos
pridėtinės vertės (VOEC) numerius, ir yra naudojamas nurodyti, kad pardavimo
vietoje pridėtinės vertės mokestis (PVM) buvo renkamas atsiskaitant už prekes,
siunčiamas į paskirties vietas, palengvinančias „Vendor Collect“ sistemą. Siuntoms
į JK ir NI galima įvesti PVM mokėtojo kodą arba EORI kodą, kad būtų galima taikyti
atidėtąją PVM apskaitą (PVA)."
Google translate does a good job in translating that to English. Can give no
guarantees about Vulgar Latin though
Deepl works best
But yes, to my understanding - this is the field that should accept an UK VAT
ID. I mean - if not here then where else?
But I don’t understand: that field is indeed clearly for IOSS/VAT/… but you said:
FedEx - they are only interested in asking who should they send the send the
bill for the import duties (and processing fees?). Besides selecting myself,
the only other two options are the 'receiver' or 'third party' […]
Is that the field that appears when you select “third party”? You said it was
a FedEx account number.
I’m all confused now 🙃
To which the page proceeds throwing me an error. Unless it is expecting a VAT
ID for NI and an EORI for UK?
No VAT ID for NI: NI is still in the EU VAT zone, no border between Eire and
NI, no VAT collected by BL.
[…]
In English menu there is no extended description, but in Lithuanian it says
"Įveskite siuntėjo „Vendor Collect“ ID (VCI) numerį. VCI nurodo siuntėjo
registracijos numerį, pvz., importo vieno langelio sistemos (IOSS) arba e. prekybos
pridėtinės vertės (VOEC) numerius, ir yra naudojamas nurodyti, kad pardavimo
vietoje pridėtinės vertės mokestis (PVM) buvo renkamas atsiskaitant už prekes,
siunčiamas į paskirties vietas, palengvinančias „Vendor Collect“ sistemą. Siuntoms
į JK ir NI galima įvesti PVM mokėtojo kodą arba EORI kodą, kad būtų galima taikyti
atidėtąją PVM apskaitą (PVA)."
Google translate does a good job in translating that to English. Can give no
guarantees about Vulgar Latin though
Deepl works best
But yes, to my understanding - this is the field that should accept an UK VAT
ID. I mean - if not here then where else?
But I don’t understand: that field is indeed clearly for IOSS/VAT/… but you said:
FedEx - they are only interested in asking who should they send the send the
bill for the import duties (and processing fees?). Besides selecting myself,
the only other two options are the 'receiver' or 'third party' […]
Is that the field that appears when you select “third party”? You said it was
a FedEx account number.
I’m all confused now 🙃
To which the page proceeds throwing me an error. Unless it is expecting a VAT
ID for NI and an EORI for UK?
No VAT ID for NI: NI is still in the EU VAT zone, no border between Eire and
NI, no VAT collected by BL.
Deepl must have mixed something up - the screenshot/text was for UPS.
FedEx is the one with the 'Third Party' option.
Anyway.
One thing that you were not yet aware of is that the order was placed and paid
for on the 23rd Ended up rushing and going with FedEx. Considerably more expensive
but they at least allowed me to go through.
There was also an option for DAP - Duties Already Paid. It changed absolutely
nothing anywhere else, still asking me whether it will be the buyer taking care
of the customs related processes/expenses, or a FedEx Client ID of a third party,
or letting me to set the recipient as myself. Went with the last option. Technically
incorrect, but..
BL VAT document is attached to the shipment both physically and electronically.
Lets see if all goes smooth or if I messed something up. Will find out soon enough
[…]
Deepl must have mixed something up - the screenshot/text was for UPS.
Ah, okay. I was only answering about the FedEx problem.
I tried to make this clear by only quoting the bits I was answering to but I
should have said I had no idea why UPS didn’t accept the VAT ID.
FedEx is the one with the 'Third Party' option.
Anyway.
One thing that you were not yet aware of is that the order was placed and paid
for on the 23rd Ended up rushing and going with FedEx. Considerably more expensive
but they at least allowed me to go through.
There was also an option for DAP - Duties Already Paid. It changed absolutely
nothing anywhere else, still asking me whether it will be the buyer taking care
of the customs related processes/expenses, or a FedEx Client ID of a third party,
or letting me to set the recipient as myself. Went with the last option. Technically
incorrect, but..
Except VAT is not duty, so it’s not DAP when BL collects VAT… but then when BL
collects VAT, it’s because the value is below the £135 de minimis and
there’s no duty.
So it could be said it’s DAP because there’s no duty….
FedEx is weird.
Eh, don’t they have a chatbot on their website to confuse things even more and
make you mad?
BL VAT document is attached to the shipment both physically and electronically.
Lets see if all goes smooth or if I messed something up. Will find out soon enough
Got a problem. A fresh, zero feedback buyer has auto-checked-out for Express
shipping.
VAT has been collected by BL so I have the BrickLink's VAT invoice with their
VAT ID. I use that ID for electronic declarations with regular post shipments
- no issues.
This time I have to choose between UPS and FedEx.
UPS has a specific field to enter an ID for 'Vendor Collect' and PVA
(Postponed VAT Accounting) situations. The description states that specifically
for UK it can be the VAT code. But when I am trying to input BL's GBxxxxxxxxx
(GB + 9 digits) the page gives me an error and suggests that the code should
be BG + 12 digits. Screenshot below. There is no other field.
Not sure it’s a good idea to post BL’s number (if you didn’t modify it) on the
forum.
(Yes, I know, it’s public info… but there’s rules like that for the IOSS.)
FedEx - they are only interested in asking who should they send the send the
bill for the import duties (and processing fees?). Besides selecting myself,
the only other two options are the 'receiver' or 'third party'.
Import duties and processing fees are for the receiver (buyer), not you, not
a third party (BL).
Import VAT is not a duty.
What I mean is that, for me, this field is not the field for the marketplace
VAT ID.
If 'third party' is selected - then a single new field appears asking
for the third party's FedEx client ID.
In other words - FedEx does not appear to have the option to add any sort of
tax payer ID electronically?
Has someone had a similar issue and have you found a way to do things correctly?
Dammit. My bad. Cancelled the message, thanks for saving it.
In English menu there is no extended description, but in Lithuanian it says
"Įveskite siuntėjo „Vendor Collect“ ID (VCI) numerį. VCI nurodo siuntėjo
registracijos numerį, pvz., importo vieno langelio sistemos (IOSS) arba e. prekybos
pridėtinės vertės (VOEC) numerius, ir yra naudojamas nurodyti, kad pardavimo
vietoje pridėtinės vertės mokestis (PVM) buvo renkamas atsiskaitant už prekes,
siunčiamas į paskirties vietas, palengvinančias „Vendor Collect“ sistemą. Siuntoms
į JK ir NI galima įvesti PVM mokėtojo kodą arba EORI kodą, kad būtų galima taikyti
atidėtąją PVM apskaitą (PVA)."
Google translate does a good job in translating that to English. Can give no
guarantees about Vulgar Latin though
But yes, to my understanding - this is the field that should accept an UK VAT
ID. I mean - if not here then where else?
To which the page proceeds throwing me an error. Unless it is expecting a VAT
ID for NI and an EORI for UK?
Checking another platforms the EORI is the VAT ID +000 at the end, but maybe
it is not always the same for each registration. Here I only used the BL GB VAT
Id for UK orders
[…]
Checking another platforms the EORI is the VAT ID +000 at the end, but maybe
it is not always the same for each registration.
Even if it’s the same scheme, that doesn’t mean you don’t need to be registered
before being able to use it.
I mean, some VAT numbers are just country+domestic-registration-number but you
still need to ask for one before you can use it.
Here I only used the BL GB VAT Id for UK orders
From what I read, that’s how it’s supposed to work. But, well, on forms, when
you don’t know, it’s often 000 or 999
Lithuania, Panevėžys
France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
Ended up rushing and going with FedEx. Considerably more expensive
Spain, Comunidad Valenciana