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 Author: misbi View Messages Posted By misbi
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"Goods entering the USA from any country, from the 29th of August 2025 will
be subject to tariffs (duties) which are payable to US customs.

Duties for UK postal shipments will be based on an item’s value and the country-based
tariff (country of manufacture rather than country of shipping)."

Interested to know how BL is dealing with this?
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In Taxes, misbi writes:
  "Goods entering the USA from any country, from the 29th of August 2025 will
be subject to tariffs (duties) which are payable to US customs.

Duties for UK postal shipments will be based on an item’s value and the country-based
tariff (country of manufacture rather than country of shipping)."

Interested to know how BL is dealing with this?

It’s not to BL to deal with this.

Some sellers may propose shipping methods that include pre-paid tariffs/duties. 
Otherwise and generally, it’s the buyer who will pay at reception / arrival in
their country.
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 Author: misbi View Messages Posted By misbi
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In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
  In Taxes, misbi writes:
  "Goods entering the USA from any country, from the 29th of August 2025 will
be subject to tariffs (duties) which are payable to US customs.

Duties for UK postal shipments will be based on an item’s value and the country-based
tariff (country of manufacture rather than country of shipping)."

Interested to know how BL is dealing with this?

It’s not to BL to deal with this.

Some sellers may propose shipping methods that include pre-paid tariffs/duties. 
Otherwise and generally, it’s the buyer who will pay at reception / arrival in
their country.

BL will have to collect and forward the tax though. Also, country of origin?
Denmark? Poland?
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In Taxes, misbi writes:
  In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
  In Taxes, misbi writes:
  "Goods entering the USA from any country, from the 29th of August 2025 will
be subject to tariffs (duties) which are payable to US customs.

Duties for UK postal shipments will be based on an item’s value and the country-based
tariff (country of manufacture rather than country of shipping)."

Interested to know how BL is dealing with this?

It’s not to BL to deal with this.

Some sellers may propose shipping methods that include pre-paid tariffs/duties. 
Otherwise and generally, it’s the buyer who will pay at reception / arrival in
their country.

BL will have to collect and forward the tax though. Also, country of origin?
Denmark? Poland?

For individual bricks, it’s impossible to know which factory it’s from, so as
a rule of thumb many of us just go with Denmark, as for sets, you can use the
manufacture code
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Taxes, misbi writes:
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BL will have to collect and forward the tax though.

As far as I know, there’s no US federal law (yet or in the pipeline) that would
make BL do that.

Remember that the US sales tax collection laws are at the state level.  And UK,
Norway, EU, AU, NZ, etc., are making BL collect import VAT / import GST, not
duties.

Also, a lot of people/articles/summaries are confusing about who import things.
Often, you’ll see some articles explain that “sellers will have to raise their
prices,” but it’s about sellers who have “a foot” in the USA and are importing
things there to sell there.
Say, Vuitton is making their bags in France, imports them in their US warehouse
and sell their products from the US.
That’s a US company (Vuitton’s subsidiary) that buys stuff from abroad and then
sell it in the US.
That’s different from when a US buyer orders directly from abroad.  In that case,
the US buyer is the importer and has to take care of duties.
Or, as I said earlier, can pre-pay the duties through the shipping company.
But it’s not the seller’s problem and it’s not the marketplace problem.


  Also, country of origin? Denmark? Poland?

As I understand it, it’s the country of manufacture that counts.  So, yes, Denmark,
Czech Republic… or China.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
  As I understand it, it’s the country of manufacture that counts.  So, yes, Denmark,
Czech Republic… or China.

Or Mexico .. and soon, USA
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In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:

  Or, as I said earlier, can pre-pay the duties through the shipping company.

Yep that's it - I see it now:

"To enable you to continue to export goods to the USA, Royal Mail will introduce
a PDDP (Postal Delivered Duties Paid) service for account customers to use when
exporting to the USA."
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Taxes, misbi writes:
  In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:

  Or, as I said earlier, can pre-pay the duties through the shipping company.

Yep that's it - I see it now:

"To enable you to continue to export goods to the USA, Royal Mail will introduce
a PDDP (Postal Delivered Duties Paid) service for account customers to use when
exporting to the USA."

Wait, you’re saying Royal Mail is doing things AND explaning them?  That can’t
be true!  Postal services aren’t supposed to do that.
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In Taxes, misbi writes:
  "Goods entering the USA from any country, from the 29th of August 2025 will
be subject to tariffs (duties) which are payable to US customs.

Duties for UK postal shipments will be based on an item’s value and the country-based
tariff (country of manufacture rather than country of shipping)."

Interested to know how BL is dealing with this?

Do UK sellers still sell to the USA? International (especially tracked) shipping
has become so expensive I found what little sales I had to the USA dried up years
ago.
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In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
  In Taxes, misbi writes:
  "Goods entering the USA from any country, from the 29th of August 2025 will
be subject to tariffs (duties) which are payable to US customs.

Duties for UK postal shipments will be based on an item’s value and the country-based
tariff (country of manufacture rather than country of shipping)."

Interested to know how BL is dealing with this?

Do UK sellers still sell to the USA? International (especially tracked) shipping
has become so expensive I found what little sales I had to the USA dried up years
ago.

I question this as well. I turned of international shipping in the last couple
years, but sales out of the usa fell off a cliff about 5 years ago due to cost.
Used to be about 1/3 of my sales and that trickled to nearly zero, and the orders
I did get canceled at a 90+ % rate at least.

Crystal
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In Taxes, Adjour writes:
  I did get canceled at a 90+ % rate at least.

I'm in the same boat.

Except I end up cancelling them as I had a minimum international order threshold
in my terms (to make the order make sense for myself and the buyer) that international
clients generally do not read. This is just an observation, not a criticism.

When I explain to the clients that while I can waive this, the actual shipping
will be X, they are often taken aback by my actual cost to ship and ask me to
cancel.

I don't like what it does to my stats, their experience, and my time management.

So, as of today, I am out of the international game (excepting Canada). It was
less than 2% of my business. If the international shipping pricing / environment
out of the US changes, I certainly will revisit the possibility.

Exceptions will be made for those that reach out.
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In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
  In Taxes, misbi writes:
  "Goods entering the USA from any country, from the 29th of August 2025 will
be subject to tariffs (duties) which are payable to US customs.

Duties for UK postal shipments will be based on an item’s value and the country-based
tariff (country of manufacture rather than country of shipping)."

Interested to know how BL is dealing with this?

Do UK sellers still sell to the USA? International (especially tracked) shipping
has become so expensive I found what little sales I had to the USA dried up years
ago.

It'll be impossible after 29th Aug as there's no way to add 10% to the
order value (where you're alreading using the additional charge field).

Default behaviour isn't helpful in this situation:
"When multiple conditions are met, lowest handling fee will be applied"
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  It'll be impossible after 29th Aug as there's no way to add 10% to the
order value (where you're alreading using the additional charge field).

Default behaviour isn't helpful in this situation:
"When multiple conditions are met, lowest handling fee will be applied"

Why would you be adding 10%? Aren't they collected on import if not already
collected by the marketplace?

Although if you are collecting the tariff and remitting it to the US government
yourself then surely you could set up a USA only shipping method and add it.
If you are charging for example 5% additional fees already, then charge 15.5%
instead (assuming you need to collect 10% on the order total including your extra
5% fee too).
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In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
  
  It'll be impossible after 29th Aug as there's no way to add 10% to the
order value (where you're alreading using the additional charge field).

Default behaviour isn't helpful in this situation:
"When multiple conditions are met, lowest handling fee will be applied"

Why would you be adding 10%? Aren't they collected on import if not already
collected by the marketplace?

Although if you are collecting the tariff and remitting it to the US government
yourself then surely you could set up a USA only shipping method and add it.
If you are charging for example 5% additional fees already, then charge 15.5%
instead (assuming you need to collect 10% on the order total including your extra
5% fee too).

If you use RM’s PDDP (Postal Delivered Duties Paid), then the tariffs are including
in the shipping costs.
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  If you use RM’s PDDP (Postal Delivered Duties Paid), then the tariffs are including
in the shipping costs.

That is only for some EU countries though, isn't it? And I somehow doubt
the USA has agreed to join the EU!
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In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
  
  If you use RM’s PDDP (Postal Delivered Duties Paid), then the tariffs are including
in the shipping costs.

That is only for some EU countries though, isn't it? And I somehow doubt
the USA has agreed to join the EU!

No, it’s not only EU, it’s up to the carrier to offer it and it seems RM will
do it: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1523108
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In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
  In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
  
  If you use RM’s PDDP (Postal Delivered Duties Paid), then the tariffs are including
in the shipping costs.

That is only for some EU countries though, isn't it? And I somehow doubt
the USA has agreed to join the EU!

No, it’s not only EU, it’s up to the carrier to offer it and it seems RM will
do it: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1523108

For a small fee, it turns out 🙄
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In Taxes, misbi writes:
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For a small fee, it turns out 🙄

Well, of course 😁
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In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
  In Taxes, misbi writes:
  […]
For a small fee, it turns out 🙄

Well, of course 😁

I don't think it is implemented yet for USA. When it is, hopefully the costs
will be as for the EU. I sent a parcel to NL earlier in the week (for work, not
mine) and I think they said the charge was 50p plus the VAT that would be billed
at a later date to the billing account. So not that big a deal compared to cost
of tracking. But yes, more incremental add ons for the buyer.

But I reckon many sellers will still send orders duty unpaid as that will make
their prices at the time of purchase look better than those charging and collecting
the tariff upfront.
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In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
  In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
  In Taxes, misbi writes:
  […]
For a small fee, it turns out 🙄

Well, of course 😁

I don't think it is implemented yet for USA. When it is, hopefully the costs
will be as for the EU. I sent a parcel to NL earlier in the week (for work, not
mine) and I think they said the charge was 50p plus the VAT that would be billed
at a later date to the billing account. So not that big a deal compared to cos

Applied from 29 August 2025. Same 50p fee.

  
But I reckon many sellers will still send orders duty unpaid as that will make
their prices at the time of purchase look better than those charging and collecting
the tariff upfront.

Not an option - The customs duties on items need to be paid to US Customs before
those items enter the USA. US authorities will not accept items without duties
paid on them.
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In Taxes, misbi writes:
  In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
  In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
  In Taxes, misbi writes:
  […]
For a small fee, it turns out 🙄

Well, of course 😁

I don't think it is implemented yet for USA. When it is, hopefully the costs
will be as for the EU. I sent a parcel to NL earlier in the week (for work, not
mine) and I think they said the charge was 50p plus the VAT that would be billed
at a later date to the billing account. So not that big a deal compared to cos

Applied from 29 August 2025. Same 50p fee.

  
But I reckon many sellers will still send orders duty unpaid as that will make
their prices at the time of purchase look better than those charging and collecting
the tariff upfront.

Not an option - The customs duties on items need to be paid to US Customs before
those items enter the USA. US authorities will not accept items without duties
paid on them.

when I order something from abroad I can just pay the duties when I receive the
item, why would the US be any different?
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In Taxes, RebelliousBrick writes:
  In Taxes, misbi writes:
  In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
  In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
  In Taxes, misbi writes:
  […]
For a small fee, it turns out 🙄

Well, of course 😁

I don't think it is implemented yet for USA. When it is, hopefully the costs
will be as for the EU. I sent a parcel to NL earlier in the week (for work, not
mine) and I think they said the charge was 50p plus the VAT that would be billed
at a later date to the billing account. So not that big a deal compared to cos

Applied from 29 August 2025. Same 50p fee.

  
But I reckon many sellers will still send orders duty unpaid as that will make
their prices at the time of purchase look better than those charging and collecting
the tariff upfront.

Not an option - The customs duties on items need to be paid to US Customs before
those items enter the USA. US authorities will not accept items without duties
paid on them.

when I order something from abroad I can just pay the duties when I receive the
item, why would the US be any different?

Indeed, many countries do but I guess it is expensive to stop every small package
and have to arrange for the buyer to pay the tax. If this is correct and it works
for the USA maybe other countries will adopt it, with all taxes prepaid (or postpaid)
and collected by the courier. That is probably preferable to the marketplace
doing it as at least then there is no double charge.
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In Taxes, yorbrick writes:

  Why would you be adding 10%? Aren't they collected on import if not already
collected by the marketplace?

No, customs won't accept any packages that aren't duty prepaid.
Also, it's probably 15% as it's country of manufacture tariff rate, not
UK rate!

  Although if you are collecting the tariff and remitting it to the US government
yourself then surely you could set up a USA only shipping method and add it.
If you are charging for example 5% additional fees already, then charge 15.5%
instead (assuming you need to collect 10% on the order total including your extra
5% fee too).

Actually, yes, USA-only shipping method would probably work, so not impossible
like I first thought.
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In Taxes, misbi writes:
  "Goods entering the USA from any country, from the 29th of August 2025 will
be subject to tariffs (duties) which are payable to US customs.

Duties for UK postal shipments will be based on an item’s value and the country-based
tariff (country of manufacture rather than country of shipping)."

Interested to know how BL is dealing with this?

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