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 Author: Ziegelmeister View Messages Posted By Ziegelmeister
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Has dark tan been known to have color shifts or is this a new thing? These were
from a recent part out. It was noticeable enough that I could see it from 6
feet away in the bin with the other 1x2 bricks; several of them to boot. Color
sampling might be hard to read if I have to shrink the photos but left brick
sample taken inside that circle was 97/86/57 (RGB respectively) and the right
was 101/95/68.
 


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In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  Has dark tan been known to have color shifts or is this a new thing? These were
from a recent part out. It was noticeable enough that I could see it from 6
feet away in the bin with the other 1x2 bricks; several of them to boot. Color
sampling might be hard to read if I have to shrink the photos but left brick
sample taken inside that circle was 97/86/57 (RGB respectively) and the right
was 101/95/68.

seems most/all colors have variation these days
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  Has dark tan been known to have color shifts or is this a new thing? These were
from a recent part out. It was noticeable enough that I could see it from 6
feet away in the bin with the other 1x2 bricks; several of them to boot. Color
sampling might be hard to read if I have to shrink the photos but left brick
sample taken inside that circle was 97/86/57 (RGB respectively) and the right
was 101/95/68.

seems most/all colors have variation these days

Drop in quality control
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In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  Has dark tan been known to have color shifts or is this a new thing? These were
from a recent part out. It was noticeable enough that I could see it from 6
feet away in the bin with the other 1x2 bricks; several of them to boot. Color
sampling might be hard to read if I have to shrink the photos but left brick
sample taken inside that circle was 97/86/57 (RGB respectively) and the right
was 101/95/68.

seems most/all colors have variation these days

Someone posted a photo of the new Harry potter Knight Bus on FB the other day.

Terrible!

:'
 
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In General, iprice writes:
  In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  Has dark tan been known to have color shifts or is this a new thing? These were
from a recent part out. It was noticeable enough that I could see it from 6
feet away in the bin with the other 1x2 bricks; several of them to boot. Color
sampling might be hard to read if I have to shrink the photos but left brick
sample taken inside that circle was 97/86/57 (RGB respectively) and the right
was 101/95/68.

seems most/all colors have variation these days

Someone posted a photo of the new Harry potter Knight Bus on FB the other day.

Terrible!

:'

Wild!
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In General, iprice writes:
  In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  Has dark tan been known to have color shifts or is this a new thing? These were
from a recent part out. It was noticeable enough that I could see it from 6
feet away in the bin with the other 1x2 bricks; several of them to boot. Color
sampling might be hard to read if I have to shrink the photos but left brick
sample taken inside that circle was 97/86/57 (RGB respectively) and the right
was 101/95/68.

seems most/all colors have variation these days

Someone posted a photo of the new Harry potter Knight Bus on FB the other day.

Terrible!

:'


This is exactly what I was getting at. That is not worth the money that people
are paying for it. That is not a "luxury" product that demands a higher
price point. I started speaking with my wallet over the last few years. When
a product you loves gets worse over time, the only thing to do is pull your support.
Will others do the same? 🤷‍♂️
 Author: Ziegelmeister View Messages Posted By Ziegelmeister
 Posted: Mar 4, 2025 17:52
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In General, iprice writes:
  In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  Has dark tan been known to have color shifts or is this a new thing? These were
from a recent part out. It was noticeable enough that I could see it from 6
feet away in the bin with the other 1x2 bricks; several of them to boot. Color
sampling might be hard to read if I have to shrink the photos but left brick
sample taken inside that circle was 97/86/57 (RGB respectively) and the right
was 101/95/68.

seems most/all colors have variation these days

Someone posted a photo of the new Harry potter Knight Bus on FB the other day.

Terrible!

:'

Yeeeks! That's friggin terrible.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  Has dark tan been known to have color shifts or is this a new thing? These were
from a recent part out. It was noticeable enough that I could see it from 6
feet away in the bin with the other 1x2 bricks; several of them to boot. Color
sampling might be hard to read if I have to shrink the photos but left brick
sample taken inside that circle was 97/86/57 (RGB respectively) and the right
was 101/95/68.


It is almost guaranteed that every single color that the LEGO Group currently
produces has variation from part to part. Buy any modern set with a reasonable
amount of one color in it and it is readily apparent that color issues are a
huge problem. It is one of the many downgrades in quality that have occurred
during the company's years of rapid growth (particularly the last 10 years
or so).

My son has some Halo Mega sets from a few years back and the colors across the
parts are very consistent, even in larger builds. To this day after having been
on display for as long as he has had them, there is no noticeable shift in colors
between parts or signs of fading/yellowing. Now, the plastic feels cheaper, but
the sets still look amazing on display.

I honestly think it is pretty embarrassing these days what the LEGO Group tries
to consistently pass off as a "luxury" product with so many prevalent
quality issues (colors, cheap feeling plastic formulations, molding defects from
improper cooling or plastic flow, cracking parts, etc.). The quality issues are
the main reason why I buy only a handful of sets each year any longer. (It may
come as no surprise that my money mostly goes to finding older sets to study
for catalog information. )
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  (It may come as no surprise that my money mostly goes to finding older sets to study
for catalog information. )

A great choice!
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In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  Has dark tan been known to have color shifts or is this a new thing? These were
from a recent part out. It was noticeable enough that I could see it from 6
feet away in the bin with the other 1x2 bricks; several of them to boot. Color
sampling might be hard to read if I have to shrink the photos but left brick
sample taken inside that circle was 97/86/57 (RGB respectively) and the right
was 101/95/68.


It is almost guaranteed that every single color that the LEGO Group currently
produces has variation from part to part. Buy any modern set with a reasonable
amount of one color in it and it is readily apparent that color issues are a
huge problem. It is one of the many downgrades in quality that have occurred
during the company's years of rapid growth (particularly the last 10 years
or so).

My son has some Halo Mega sets from a few years back and the colors across the
parts are very consistent, even in larger builds. To this day after having been
on display for as long as he has had them, there is no noticeable shift in colors
between parts or signs of fading/yellowing. Now, the plastic feels cheaper, but
the sets still look amazing on display.

I honestly think it is pretty embarrassing these days what the LEGO Group tries
to consistently pass off as a "luxury" product with so many prevalent
quality issues (colors, cheap feeling plastic formulations, molding defects from
improper cooling or plastic flow, cracking parts, etc.). The quality issues are
the main reason why I buy only a handful of sets each year any longer. (It may
come as no surprise that my money mostly goes to finding older sets to study
for catalog information. )

Remember the old Scooby Doo cartoons (anything Hanna Barbera really) where if
the color was a little off on something you knew that that was going to be the
brick they'd have to push to open up a secret passage?

I feel like if you made a wall out of these bricks you'd get the exact same
effect.
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In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  Has dark tan been known to have color shifts or is this a new thing? These were
from a recent part out. It was noticeable enough that I could see it from 6
feet away in the bin with the other 1x2 bricks; several of them to boot. Color
sampling might be hard to read if I have to shrink the photos but left brick
sample taken inside that circle was 97/86/57 (RGB respectively) and the right
was 101/95/68.


It is almost guaranteed that every single color that the LEGO Group currently
produces has variation from part to part. Buy any modern set with a reasonable
amount of one color in it and it is readily apparent that color issues are a
huge problem. It is one of the many downgrades in quality that have occurred
during the company's years of rapid growth (particularly the last 10 years
or so).

My son has some Halo Mega sets from a few years back and the colors across the
parts are very consistent, even in larger builds. To this day after having been
on display for as long as he has had them, there is no noticeable shift in colors
between parts or signs of fading/yellowing. Now, the plastic feels cheaper, but
the sets still look amazing on display.

I honestly think it is pretty embarrassing these days what the LEGO Group tries
to consistently pass off as a "luxury" product with so many prevalent
quality issues (colors, cheap feeling plastic formulations, molding defects from
improper cooling or plastic flow, cracking parts, etc.). The quality issues are
the main reason why I buy only a handful of sets each year any longer. (It may
come as no surprise that my money mostly goes to finding older sets to study
for catalog information. )

Remember the old Scooby Doo cartoons (anything Hanna Barbera really) where if
the color was a little off on something you knew that that was going to be the
brick they'd have to push to open up a secret passage?

I feel like if you made a wall out of these bricks you'd get the exact same
effect.

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In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  Has dark tan been known to have color shifts or is this a new thing? These were
from a recent part out. It was noticeable enough that I could see it from 6
feet away in the bin with the other 1x2 bricks; several of them to boot. Color
sampling might be hard to read if I have to shrink the photos but left brick
sample taken inside that circle was 97/86/57 (RGB respectively) and the right
was 101/95/68.


It is almost guaranteed that every single color that the LEGO Group currently
produces has variation from part to part. Buy any modern set with a reasonable
amount of one color in it and it is readily apparent that color issues are a
huge problem. It is one of the many downgrades in quality that have occurred
during the company's years of rapid growth (particularly the last 10 years
or so).

My son has some Halo Mega sets from a few years back and the colors across the
parts are very consistent, even in larger builds. To this day after having been
on display for as long as he has had them, there is no noticeable shift in colors
between parts or signs of fading/yellowing. Now, the plastic feels cheaper, but
the sets still look amazing on display.

I honestly think it is pretty embarrassing these days what the LEGO Group tries
to consistently pass off as a "luxury" product with so many prevalent
quality issues (colors, cheap feeling plastic formulations, molding defects from
improper cooling or plastic flow, cracking parts, etc.). The quality issues are
the main reason why I buy only a handful of sets each year any longer. (It may
come as no surprise that my money mostly goes to finding older sets to study
for catalog information. )

Remember the old Scooby Doo cartoons (anything Hanna Barbera really) where if
the color was a little off on something you knew that that was going to be the
brick they'd have to push to open up a secret passage?


What a perfect way to describe it.


  I feel like if you made a wall out of these bricks you'd get the exact same
effect.
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In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  Has dark tan been known to have color shifts or is this a new thing? These were
from a recent part out. It was noticeable enough that I could see it from 6
feet away in the bin with the other 1x2 bricks; several of them to boot. Color
sampling might be hard to read if I have to shrink the photos but left brick
sample taken inside that circle was 97/86/57 (RGB respectively) and the right
was 101/95/68.


It is almost guaranteed that every single color that the LEGO Group currently
produces has variation from part to part. Buy any modern set with a reasonable
amount of one color in it and it is readily apparent that color issues are a
huge problem. It is one of the many downgrades in quality that have occurred
during the company's years of rapid growth (particularly the last 10 years
or so).

My son has some Halo Mega sets from a few years back and the colors across the
parts are very consistent, even in larger builds. To this day after having been
on display for as long as he has had them, there is no noticeable shift in colors
between parts or signs of fading/yellowing. Now, the plastic feels cheaper, but
the sets still look amazing on display.

I honestly think it is pretty embarrassing these days what the LEGO Group tries
to consistently pass off as a "luxury" product with so many prevalent
quality issues (colors, cheap feeling plastic formulations, molding defects from
improper cooling or plastic flow, cracking parts, etc.). The quality issues are
the main reason why I buy only a handful of sets each year any longer. (It may
come as no surprise that my money mostly goes to finding older sets to study
for catalog information. )

Remember the old Scooby Doo cartoons (anything Hanna Barbera really) where if
the color was a little off on something you knew that that was going to be the
brick they'd have to push to open up a secret passage?

I feel like if you made a wall out of these bricks you'd get the exact same
effect.


Here's a photo of my
 
Set No: 10273  Name: Haunted House
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10273-1 (Inv) Haunted House
3188 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Creator: Creator Expert: Fairground Collection
that I put together about 18 months ago.

How many shades of olive green can you count?
 
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In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  Has dark tan been known to have color shifts or is this a new thing? These were
from a recent part out. It was noticeable enough that I could see it from 6
feet away in the bin with the other 1x2 bricks; several of them to boot. Color
sampling might be hard to read if I have to shrink the photos but left brick
sample taken inside that circle was 97/86/57 (RGB respectively) and the right
was 101/95/68.


It is almost guaranteed that every single color that the LEGO Group currently
produces has variation from part to part. Buy any modern set with a reasonable
amount of one color in it and it is readily apparent that color issues are a
huge problem. It is one of the many downgrades in quality that have occurred
during the company's years of rapid growth (particularly the last 10 years
or so).

My son has some Halo Mega sets from a few years back and the colors across the
parts are very consistent, even in larger builds. To this day after having been
on display for as long as he has had them, there is no noticeable shift in colors
between parts or signs of fading/yellowing. Now, the plastic feels cheaper, but
the sets still look amazing on display.

I honestly think it is pretty embarrassing these days what the LEGO Group tries
to consistently pass off as a "luxury" product with so many prevalent
quality issues (colors, cheap feeling plastic formulations, molding defects from
improper cooling or plastic flow, cracking parts, etc.). The quality issues are
the main reason why I buy only a handful of sets each year any longer. (It may
come as no surprise that my money mostly goes to finding older sets to study
for catalog information. )

Remember the old Scooby Doo cartoons (anything Hanna Barbera really) where if
the color was a little off on something you knew that that was going to be the
brick they'd have to push to open up a secret passage?

I feel like if you made a wall out of these bricks you'd get the exact same
effect.


Here's a photo of my
 
Set No: 10273  Name: Haunted House
* 
10273-1 (Inv) Haunted House
3188 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Creator: Creator Expert: Fairground Collection
that I put together about 18 months ago.

How many shades of olive green can you count?

How many factorys are there?
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In General, randyf writes:
  Here's a photo of my
 
Set No: 10273  Name: Haunted House
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10273-1 (Inv) Haunted House
3188 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Creator: Creator Expert: Fairground Collection
that I put together about 18 months ago.

How many shades of olive green can you count?

I like to think of it as verisimilitude
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In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Ziegelmeister writes:
  I feel like if you made a wall out of these bricks you'd get the exact same
effect.


Here's a photo of my
 
Set No: 10273  Name: Haunted House
* 
10273-1 (Inv) Haunted House
3188 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Creator: Creator Expert: Fairground Collection
that I put together about 18 months ago.

How many shades of olive green can you count?

I could even find many shades of Gray on this picture; maybe not 50 but still
a certain number