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From my cold, dead hands!
At $6 a pound / £10 a kilo, I imagine many sellers could find multiple kilos
of used parts in their inventory that do not sell for that. Even bulk unsorted
(but really sorted) lego on ebay doesn't go for much more than that after
taking into account postage and fees.
Time for a calculator that automatically takes the weight on each lot in the
inventory, works out the price per weight and flags up any poor performing parts
that are better sent to lego than sold here.
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More competition for me! 😭😭😭 😁😁
I am uncertain whether I sell bricks and plates for more than $6 a pound. But
I am far from a Lego Store.
$6/pound is 1.3 cents per gram. I went an looked at my pieces priced at 1 cent
and most of them are less than half a gram. I have a couple things that are
over a gram. If I were going to the LEGO store anyway, I could probably grab
enough to get $1 off my purchase. But what if it is the part that starts a $20
order in my store?
So I'm curious about the condition of the LEGO you shipped.
1. Did you put minifigs in?
2. Did you separate EVERY little piece or were there a few stragglers still connected?
3. How well do you think you removed all the non LEGO?
4. Was your price based on $6 per lb?
I just packed up 65 lbs of unneeded LEGO. There were no figs in the lot, those
were removed long ago. There might be 1 non-LEGO in very 10 lbs, maybe. They
were clean, and in very good condition. I have 5 total packages so the boxes
averaged about 13 to 15 lbs each.
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Goodish idea, not the best. Good thought though
I am worried about what will happen to older/rare parts though.
Unless there is an AI, watching the conveyor with multiple camera angles, they
end up in the same recycle as common bricks. IMHO, there could be some real value
in doing that, but if people are only sending in the real dregs, there will be
little to no rare parts.
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Goodish idea, not the best. Good thought though
I am worried about what will happen to older/rare parts though.
Unless there is an AI, watching the conveyor with multiple camera angles, they
end up in the same recycle as common bricks. IMHO, there could be some real value
in doing that, but if people are only sending in the real dregs, there will be
little to no rare parts.
NR
Yes, but most can't identify rare parts, they just pull figs and accessories
so some things will slip through.
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Goodish idea, not the best. Good thought though
I am worried about what will happen to older/rare parts though.
There will probably be some older valuable parts turned in this way, but those
parts probably wouldn't have found their way to collectors otherwise. They'd
be thrown away or go to some other kid at a garage sale.
Best I can tell, the price is too low for me to make it a part of my scheme and
if I can't afford to sell to them, I don't think any significant portion
of our market will.
I see a weight limit of 45 lbs. I wonder if you can repeat the process later.
David
if I had to guess, that weight limit might be more so a carrier restriction as
often when looking at shipping things on different sites i see something along
the lines of "50 lbs max" or such so you may be right in that its repeatable
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Between this news and the recent overhaul of the Online Pick a Brick Site, it
does not take much thought to understand which direction Lego wants to take Bricklink.
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Between this news and the recent overhaul of the Online Pick a Brick Site, it
does not take much thought to understand which direction Lego wants to take Bricklink.
I’m still confident lego has no plans to take over the individual brick market.
For them they make more money by not doing that and it saves them lots of company
resources.
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Between this news and the recent overhaul of the Online Pick a Brick Site, it
does not take much thought to understand which direction Lego wants to take Bricklink.
I’m still confident lego has no plans to take over the individual brick market.
For them they make more money by not doing that and it saves them lots of company
resources.
I do not believe that it would be profitable enough for them to take over the
used LEGO market.
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Between this news and the recent overhaul of the Online Pick a Brick Site, it
does not take much thought to understand which direction Lego wants to take Bricklink.
I’m still confident lego has no plans to take over the individual brick market.
For them they make more money by not doing that and it saves them lots of company
resources.
I do not believe that it would be profitable enough for them to take over the
used LEGO market.
+1 and also wether for legal or practical reasons they cant sell licence individual
minifigures which basically saves a good chunk of the new market as well. Plus
for the new they do sell they already struggle massively in accuracy both in
qty and in shipping what was actually ordered so I strongly doubt they want to
try to grow that any more
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I'm going to try it out with 10 pounds or so of old LEGO I have sitting around.
Personally, I don't think the program will last long-term.
It is hard to find reliable data on how much LEGO is produced each year, but
I see some estimates say 100,000 tons. To buy back all that LEGO would cost TLG
$1.2 billion a year at $6 a pound.
The company turned a profit of $2 billion last year.
Clearly LEGO isn't going to spend 60% of their entire annual profits on buying
back LEGO.
Personally, I don't think the program will last long-term.
It either won't last long or will never be a strong stream. LEGO is very
durable and gets past parent to child. There are pieces that have been through
multiple garage sales. They know there is a lot of old LEGO in attics and garages.
If the word gets out, they'll drain some of that down, but there is no reality
in an idea that they'd be constantly sweeping up a whole lot of 5-year-old
pieces.
If this hits anyone on Bricklink it is people who want to BUY these pieces at
garage sales and sell them here. They might get out competed at $6/lb. But
I really doubt it is going to make a huge impact.
Personally, I don't think the program will last long-term.
It either won't last long or will never be a strong stream. LEGO is very
durable and gets past parent to child. There are pieces that have been through
multiple garage sales. They know there is a lot of old LEGO in attics and garages.
If the word gets out, they'll drain some of that down, but there is no reality
in an idea that they'd be constantly sweeping up a whole lot of 5-year-old
pieces.
If this hits anyone on Bricklink it is people who want to BUY these pieces at
garage sales and sell them here. They might get out competed at $6/lb. But
I really doubt it is going to make a huge impact.
The one other thing to consider is that (if I remember correctly) lego offers
credit for the bricks. If they do that then the people who are selling old collections
have a high probability that they don’t want more lego so would rather get cash
then credit for a toy company they don’t want more from
The one other thing to consider is that (if I remember correctly) lego offers
credit for the bricks.
Yes, it's a gift certificate, not cash
There is no difference if you are an addict!
But yeah, store credit doesn't cost them as much as giving away money but
even so, $6 a pound is not bad for those heavy but cheap parts in unpopular colours
that never sell. Especially if you are going to buy some LEGO direct anyway.
The one other thing to consider is that (if I remember correctly) lego offers
credit for the bricks.
Yes, it's a gift certificate, not cash
There is no difference if you are an addict!
But yeah, store credit doesn't cost them as much as giving away money but
even so, $6 a pound is not bad for those heavy but cheap parts in unpopular colours
that never sell. Especially if you are going to buy some LEGO direct anyway.
I'll gladly take in my 300 pound box of pink and purple basic bricks with
mixed in friends parts
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I'm going to try it out with 10 pounds or so of old LEGO I have sitting around.
Personally, I don't think the program will last long-term.
...
Clearly LEGO isn't going to spend 60% of their entire annual profits on buying
back LEGO.
I don't think your numbers are correct.
But IMO what they wish to do is to protect the image of the brand by being an
actor in the recycling factor, while giving them (as a second life) or destructing
/ recycling them properly.
This could be a VERY important move for a company selling plastic nowadays. The
cost is real but an extra cost is better than less sales
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I'm going to try it out with 10 pounds or so of old LEGO I have sitting around.
Personally, I don't think the program will last long-term.
...
Clearly LEGO isn't going to spend 60% of their entire annual profits on buying
back LEGO.
I don't think your numbers are correct.
But IMO what they wish to do is to protect the image of the brand by being an
actor in the recycling factor, while giving them (as a second life) or destructing
/ recycling them properly.
This could be a VERY important move for a company selling plastic nowadays. The
cost is real but an extra cost is better than less sales
and it wouldn't even be that much as its only paid as a credit to buy more
lego, and probably lots of tax benefits, and good publicity. this will probably
be a good move for them in terms of their financials
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I'm going to try it out with 10 pounds or so of old LEGO I have sitting around.
Personally, I don't think the program will last long-term.
It is hard to find reliable data on how much LEGO is produced each year, but
I see some estimates say 100,000 tons. To buy back all that LEGO would cost TLG
$1.2 billion a year at $6 a pound.
The company turned a profit of $2 billion last year.
Clearly LEGO isn't going to spend 60% of their entire annual profits on buying
back LEGO.
Your math is BS.
They don´t give away Money, just Vouchers. Seeing that, you´ll get them to swap
them for full priced sets in the stores or shop at home. (except you wait till
Christmas Eve rebates.)
If they were "money" you could get 35-40% rebates on the online market
elsewhere.
So that´s taking the value down to ~4 pounds or 5.50€ a KG.
(if you are a seller, also the VAT in there counts, given a ~20% EU-VAT-Tax in
the new product is bringing that pounds/$ to 3.20 and the €uros to 4.40€.)
Essentialy the real value they offer you is just "half" of it.
So they swap you a full 100€$ Set (with estimated 0.8 to 1KG New parts) for 12KG
Used bricks. Those 12KG could have brought you ~120 to 200€ (SW) in a garage
sales, which in turn might get you 2,3 or 4 of these sets in the regular online
markets.
That´s bad, but not the end.
Switching the perspective - Lego has to give away ~1KG of bricks (+ box and instruction)
at their "Production value" to retrieve 12KG used. I have no idea what
the real costs for a 100€$ Sets are..
I wonder if they even give you more than "1-2€$" for each KG used, or
if its even much less.
That´s a bummer. For this they get out all the nice sets, and rare parts from
the secondary market, just because people are too lazy and foolish to sell them
there now. Disasterous.
Scaled up and beyond... By giving away 10000 Tons NEW (at their very low costs)
they will/could/can drain 120000 Tons from the pre-owners. Gosh.
To get an fairly deal or equilibrium from a sellers side, according to my (Sellers)
math
you can just trade in parts which are about 0.008 €-cent weighing 1 gram per
part.
They barely exist. I just found technic pins and axle pins, cheese slopes, and
to a degree
tile round 1x1 or plate round 1x1 (barely) fitting in.
Now switch back your point of view to the Legoland Fabrics, 1KG New bricks there
are sold at 90€$ each KG. Your used ones are estimated financially worth like
~1-2€$ each KG to them.
That´s how bad it could be.
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I'm going to try it out with 10 pounds or so of old LEGO I have sitting around.
Personally, I don't think the program will last long-term.
It is hard to find reliable data on how much LEGO is produced each year, but
I see some estimates say 100,000 tons. To buy back all that LEGO would cost TLG
$1.2 billion a year at $6 a pound.
The company turned a profit of $2 billion last year.
Clearly LEGO isn't going to spend 60% of their entire annual profits on buying
back LEGO.
Your math is BS.
They don´t give away Money, just Vouchers. Seeing that, you´ll get them to swap
them for full priced sets in the stores or shop at home. (except you wait till
Christmas Eve rebates.)
If they were "money" you could get 35-40% rebates on the online market
elsewhere.
So that´s taking the value down to ~4 pounds or 5.50€ a KG.
(if you are a seller, also the VAT in there counts, given a ~20% EU-VAT-Tax in
the new product is bringing that pounds/$ to 3.20 and the €uros to 4.40€.)
Essentialy the real value they offer you is just "half" of it.
So they swap you a full 100€$ Set (with estimated 0.8 to 1KG New parts) for 12KG
Used bricks. Those 12KG could have brought you ~120 to 200€ (SW) in a garage
sales, which in turn might get you 2,3 or 4 of these sets in the regular online
markets.
That´s bad, but not the end.
Switching the perspective - Lego has to give away ~1KG of bricks (+ box and instruction)
at their "Production value" to retrieve 12KG used. I have no idea what
the real costs for a 100€$ Sets are..
I wonder if they even give you more than "1-2€$" for each KG used, or
if its even much less.
That´s a bummer. For this they get out all the nice sets, and rare parts from
the secondary market, just because people are too lazy and foolish to sell them
there now. Disasterous.
Scaled up and beyond... By giving away 10000 Tons NEW (at their very low costs)
they will/could/can drain 120000 Tons from the pre-owners. Gosh.
To get an fairly deal or equilibrium from a sellers side, according to my (Sellers)
math
you can just trade in parts which are about 0.008 €-cent weighing 1 gram per
part.
They barely exist. I just found technic pins and axle pins, cheese slopes, and
to a degree
tile round 1x1 or plate round 1x1 (barely) fitting in.
Now switch back your point of view to the Legoland Fabrics, 1KG New bricks there
are sold at 90€$ each KG. Your used ones are estimated financially worth like
~1-2€$ each KG to them.
That´s how bad it could be.
I'm throwing raw numbers out there to show just how absurd the idea of a
mass buyback is.
Yes, it will work on a small scale, but not if too many people turn in.
You have to figure out the costs of having to clean and sort the LEGO. I sort
through Goodwill lots all the time and they are disgusting and unsafe until they
go through a sophisticated cleaning process.
So from a labor perspective, they are paying people $20 an hour (inclusive of
tax and benefits) or they are spending tens of millions on AI setup to sort.
And I find it hard to believe that an AI setup would be that great, because many
of the modern duplicate brands are almost indistinguishable from LEGO.
For reference with a 35 lot (15kg), I can clean and sort a pound in about 12
minutes.
The whole program is created for TLG to try to improve their environmental image,
even though they produce a product make entirely from fossil fuels.
I have burned LEGO before. It burns worse than a tire, very polluting.
Remember when LEGO said they would make their product out of recycled plastic?
Check the news headlines, they gave up last year.
It is the same mental nonsense as is present in Germany, where they shut down
the clean almost carbon-free nuclear plants, then they have to go back to burning
dirty coal. (lignite)
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I have burned LEGO before. It burns worse than a tire, very polluting.
First, that was an awfully bad and dangerous idea.
Then, in the rigth ovens, plastics burn to gazes and/or their components (the
“mers” in polymers), ready to be used for something else or clean enough to be
released.
The key is “right ovens”: very high temp with the right filters and collectors.
Not the same as what can be done in your kitchen / garage / shed.
You fell for the old “I don’t know how, therefore it’s impossible” fallacy.
The problem with recycling plastics (or anything actually) isn’t chemical, it’s
collecting and sorting.
The problem is “externalities”: plastic is cheap because the costs for recycling
are spread over the whole society (our taxes).
Remember when LEGO said they would make their product out of recycled plastic?
Check the news headlines, they gave up last year.
What they gave up is the idea of using PET from recycled bottles, because it
costs (environmentally) more in transport and process than the current bricks.
Otherwise, they are already using recycled ABS, where the industry already exists.
And, next year, they’ll make hard elements (axles…) in ePOM (environmentally-friendly-polyoxymethylene
I think), which they say will use CO₂ from bio-waste.
Of course they are presenting it greener than it really is. But that’s not a
reason to dismiss everything.
Yes, it will work on a small scale, but not if too many people turn in.
Disagree, see below.
You have to figure out the costs of having to clean and sort the LEGO. I sort
through Goodwill lots all the time and they are disgusting and unsafe until they
go through a sophisticated cleaning process.
Been there done that. The worst Lot i got was one were the pre owner kid vomitted
in.
It dawned on me while i wondered how that stuff was so sticky, took a sniff,
and i knew.
So from a labor perspective, they are paying people $20 an hour (inclusive of
tax and benefits) or they are spending tens of millions on AI setup to sort.
I think you are overestimating. They require to disassemble and send it all
free of third party bricks. That´s the most timeconsuming work of the process.
So you can look over it briefly to wash and letting it dry afterwards.
If they get real junk, they might refuse to accept.
And I find it hard to believe that an AI setup would be that great, because many
of the modern duplicate brands are almost indistinguishable from LEGO.
They won´t look at each stud of each plate. Even our Sellers here can´t.
For reference with a 35 lot (15kg), I can clean and sort a pound in about 12
minutes.
I don´t think they will be sorting a lot. If they get a bigger package looking
like a collection, i would wash and dry it itself, and repurpose it like it is.
If they need to make a 30KG Parcel, they can combine a 10 and a 20 one to throw
together.
If they get a sellers trash, (and took it) they can throw 1KG unwanted stuff
into every big parcel. Makes no sense to pay someone there to sort plates and
bricks, if forwarded as bulk packages anyway.
The whole program is created for TLG to try to improve their environmental image,
even though they produce a product make entirely from fossil fuels.
Yay, they can say, we are sustainable charity, coz we send the still good bricks
to the other end of the world.
I have burned LEGO before. It burns worse than a tire, very polluting.
I Never did.
Remember when LEGO said they would make their product out of recycled plastic?
Check the news headlines, they gave up last year.
I heard an research lab is working on a solution to dissolve all that in a liquid,
while they can filter its single ingriedents out later. Dont know about the progress
inbetween, but an interesting concept.
It is the same mental nonsense as is present in Germany, where they shut down
the clean almost carbon-free nuclear plants, then they have to go back to burning
dirty coal. (lignite)
You are absolutely right, insane, worse i heard they corrupted all the 6 Nuc-Plants
left afterwards in a way, so they can never again be reused.
Icing on the cake, they talk about demolishing that safe radioactive structures
and domes very soon, while they are searching for excess storeroom for radioactive
waste.
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Seems this is for "Kids in Need" - why not just donate new bricks to
kids in need (Or the extras from the weekly pick-a-brink wall left overs?), rather
than creating a whole program? What am I missing here?
I was wondering the same thing. I came up with these possibilities:
(1) Limited time publicity stunt
(2) Tax credits and/or expense deductions
(3) They figured out a way to recycle the plastic or sell it to someone else
who did.
In General, danb987654 writes:
In General, legomalego writes:
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Seems this is for "Kids in Need" - why not just donate new bricks to
kids in need (Or the extras from the weekly pick-a-brink wall left overs?), rather
than creating a whole program? What am I missing here?
I was wondering the same thing. I came up with these possibilities:
(1) Limited time publicity stunt
(2) Tax credits and/or expense deductions
(3) They figured out a way to recycle the plastic or sell it to someone else
who did.
In General, danb987654 writes:
In General, legomalego writes:
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Seems this is for "Kids in Need" - why not just donate new bricks to
kids in need (Or the extras from the weekly pick-a-brink wall left overs?), rather
than creating a whole program? What am I missing here?
Noticed that as well. They could completely write off the slow sellers of their
released sets, and send new sets to the orphanages, school, kindergardens and
what not.
By donating this, they also would get the publicity.
It doesn´t seem to fit the purpose, quite likely the programm is tailored to
get
the supply of used bulk and collections down, which is more like a pity from
our point of view.
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Seems this is for "Kids in Need" - why not just donate new bricks to
kids in need (Or the extras from the weekly pick-a-brink wall left overs?), rather
than creating a whole program? What am I missing here?
We haven't seen the marketing on phase 2 yet, but they will probably tell
how much LEGO went to kids in need INSTEAD OF A LANDFILL.
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Seems this is for "Kids in Need" - why not just donate new bricks to
kids in need (Or the extras from the weekly pick-a-brink wall left overs?), rather
than creating a whole program?
"What am I missing here?"
I have read in a german forum, it´s a mechanism to drain / scoop up inventory
from the secondary markets, i.e Bulk Lots or Collections.
One could consider this to be a bad deal.
For every 1 KG new Lego they give out as Vouchers, they are able to suck in
12-14 KG from the used markets.
Doing the math, you would need to send in 56 KG !! Used Lego to retrieve
a 450 € Voucher in return which gets you the new UCS Sailbarge or any other 450€
Sets at full price. Imagine that.
If they redistribute the send bulks to somewhere South America, South East Asia
or Africa
it will never reappear from there, someone said.
However, the target audience is the lazy or foolish mom and pops, who were to
throw
it in the trash for they neither cared enough nor wanted the work or hassle with
selling it to someone somewhere.
According to the news there are (supposed) to be many, wealthy enough to not
even consider.
On top of this, in Germany you now need to pay 19% VAT-Tax (and income tax) on
everything from your household / private property!, you sell on the used markets,
once you exceeded 2100 € Sales per year. Insane.
So many are now considering throwing away everything a more practical option
than, having to hassle with the (unsatisfied) buyers and buerocrats.
Doing the math, you would need to send in 56 KG !! Used Lego to retrieve
a 450 € Voucher in return which gets you the new UCS Sailbarge or any other 450€
Sets at full price. Imagine that.
I just noted, that - 75397 Jabba's Sail Barge - is 500€$ instead of 450...
So you actually need 62KG to trade in.
If you dare to ask for a - 75396 Desert Skiff & Sarlacc Pit - on top
to make it a complete set, display, you have to come by a whooping 73KG of used
LEGO..
10KG trade-in is needed for that measly 75396 Desert Skiff & Sarlacc Pit alone!
Doing the math, you would need to send in 56 KG !! Used Lego to retrieve
a 450 € Voucher in return which gets you the new UCS Sailbarge or any other 450€
Sets at full price. Imagine that.
I just noted, that - 75397 Jabba's Sail Barge - is 500€$ instead of 450...
So you actually need 62KG to trade in.
If you dare to ask for a - 75396 Desert Skiff & Sarlacc Pit - on top
to make it a complete set, display, you have to come by a whooping 73KG of used
LEGO..
10KG trade-in is needed for that measly 75396 Desert Skiff & Sarlacc Pit alone!
Not worth it for some over priced lousy star war set.
Doing the math, you would need to send in 56 KG !! Used Lego to retrieve
a 450 € Voucher in return which gets you the new UCS Sailbarge or any other 450€
Sets at full price. Imagine that.
I just noted, that - 75397 Jabba's Sail Barge - is 500€$ instead of 450...
So you actually need 62KG to trade in.
If you dare to ask for a - 75396 Desert Skiff & Sarlacc Pit - on top
to make it a complete set, display, you have to come by a whooping 73KG of used
LEGO..
10KG trade-in is needed for that measly 75396 Desert Skiff & Sarlacc Pit alone!
Not worth it for some over priced lousy star war set.
Does anyone know if you can use the voucher on PAB?
Doing the math, you would need to send in 56 KG !! Used Lego to retrieve
a 450 € Voucher in return which gets you the new UCS Sailbarge or any other 450€
Sets at full price. Imagine that.
I just noted, that - 75397 Jabba's Sail Barge - is 500€$ instead of 450...
So you actually need 62KG to trade in.
If you dare to ask for a - 75396 Desert Skiff & Sarlacc Pit - on top
to make it a complete set, display, you have to come by a whooping 73KG of used
LEGO..
10KG trade-in is needed for that measly 75396 Desert Skiff & Sarlacc Pit alone!
Not worth it for some over priced lousy star war set.
Does anyone know if you can use the voucher on PAB?
Good idea, but will it buy you the same weight in new bricks?
10KG trade-in is needed for that measly 75396 Desert Skiff & Sarlacc Pit alone!
Does anyone know if you can use the voucher on PAB?
Good idea, but will it buy you the same weight in new bricks?
Hardly, assume to ratio is like 10 to 1 or worse.
If that´s good enough for you... ?
It feels like swapping a cake for a lollipop.
Or gold for marbles...
Or swapping a pound for 3 white space figs/ parts
I’m better off selling damaged parts for $6 a pound in my area. ( marked as damaged
to) I’m not sure why they sell so well but I won’t question it
Did you send them good stuff?? For they gave you ~14$ ! per KG, not the 8$ they´re
advertising??
Anyone else having also expirienced this uplift in rewards as well?
Doing the math, you would need to send in 56 KG !! Used Lego to retrieve
a 450 € Voucher in return which gets you the new UCS Sailbarge or any other 450€
Sets at full price. Imagine that.
I just noted, that - 75397 Jabba's Sail Barge - is 500€$ instead of 450...
So you actually need 62KG to trade in.
If you dare to ask for a - 75396 Desert Skiff & Sarlacc Pit - on top
to make it a complete set, display, you have to come by a whooping 73KG of used
LEGO..
10KG trade-in is needed for that measly 75396 Desert Skiff & Sarlacc Pit alone!
Not worth it for some over priced lousy star war set.
Does anyone know if you can use the voucher on PAB?
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Just a theory-but could Lego want to make an official secondary market where
they directly sell the stuff? The company is getting big enough for it to be
feasible...if only a temporary thing to see how much money they can make...
I mean, I get they have BL here, and that they own it, but I don't know,
it just seems TLC is experimenting a lot.
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Just a theory-but could Lego want to make an official secondary market where
they directly sell the stuff? The company is getting big enough for it to be
feasible...if only a temporary thing to see how much money they can make...
I mean, I get they have BL here, and that they own it, but I don't know,
it just seems TLC is experimenting a lot.
Interested in hearing what others have to say about this.
Currently available in the US and Germany.
I wonder how they're going to deal with people sending in bricks that don't
sell. I see Captain America large minifigure for sale at a discount, like the
store wants to get rid of them.
Did they impose limitations that would prevent them for receiving parts which
are not profitable to resell?
Interested in hearing what others have to say about this.
Currently available in the US and Germany.
I wonder how they're going to deal with people sending in bricks that don't
sell. I see Captain America large minifigure for sale at a discount, like the
store wants to get rid of them.
Did they impose limitations that would prevent them for receiving parts which
are not profitable to resell?
Seen it for sale in Target locally at a discount and it seems that they aren't
selling many of the boxes.
Perhaps TLG would look into marketing failures that aren't selling. I'm
not sure why the construction figure is hard to sell to people, but looks like
it just sits there and doesn't move. Maybe the stores will start aggressively
discounting it, or hope it sells at higher discount.
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I wonder how they're going to deal with people sending in bricks that don't
sell. I see Captain America large minifigure for sale at a discount, like the
store wants to get rid of them.
Did they impose limitations that would prevent them for receiving parts which
are not profitable to resell?
Main page:
“
What happens to my LEGO® bricks?
Once we receive your bricks, we carefully check them to make sure they meet our
eligibility criteria. After they pass the check, we weigh them to determine their
final value and promptly send your payment.
Our goal is to keep as many bricks in play as possible - and this is a test run
to help us figure out the best way to do it!
”
Terms:
“
2.7. What kind of LEGO® bricks are eligible?
We specifically want to take back LEGO® bricks, elements, and baseplates that
have been used in the past. Therefore, we do not expect your LEGO bricks to be
in mint condition. However, we reserve the right to reject any LEGO bricks if
they are not in a reasonable condition. LEGO bricks are not in a reasonable condition
if one of our staff members in their discretion determines that (a) an appreciable
number of the bricks are cracked and/or significantly worn, or (b) the bricks
may pose a health or safety risk.
2.8. What items are ineligible?
For the time being, we are not able to take back the following bricks or elements:
Non-LEGO® bricks and elements
Assembled LEGO sets or connected bricks
LEGO DUPLO® bricks and elements
Electronic components or batteries
Any other LEGO branded items such as apparel, key chains, storage containers,
building instructions and packaging
Therefore, we strongly encourage you to remove any of the listed items before
arrival at our in-store location or before packaging your mail-in bricks, and
only include disassembled LEGO bricks and elements. For mail-in trade-ins, any
ineligible bricks, elements, or other items will be removed prior to calculating
the weight and will not be returned to you. We reserve the right to change the
list of ineligible items at any time and for any reason in our sole discretion.
”
"we reserve the right to reject any LEGO bricks if
they are not in a reasonable condition. LEGO bricks are not in a reasonable condition
if one of our staff members in their discretion determines that (a) an appreciable
number of the bricks are cracked and/or significantly worn, or (b) the bricks
may pose a health or safety risk."
"we reserve the right to reject any LEGO bricks if
they are not in a reasonable condition. LEGO bricks are not in a reasonable condition
if one of our staff members in their discretion determines that (a) an appreciable
number of the bricks are cracked and/or significantly worn, or (b) the bricks
may pose a health or safety risk."
I'm pretty sure they'd take back bricks which have had a manufacturing
fault. While I'm not sure they'd take them as part of this program, if
the faulty bricks were sent in, they should raise a red flag to TLG when they
receive them.
In my opinion, if someone has faulty manufactured bricks, then they should be
talking directly to LEGO Customer Service on their helpdesk line. Or contacting
them via the contact form and describing properly the faulty bricks.
TLG should issue a recall notice for these sets known to have faulty manufactured
bricks, or a method whereby they can be contacted about faulty manufactured bricks.
for brittle bricks, you can contact the helpdesk at Lego and if the part is still
in production they will send you replacements for free if I remember correctly
for brittle bricks, you can contact the helpdesk at Lego and if the part is still
in production they will send you replacements for free if I remember correctly
And they even blacklist you for free because they had to give you stuff
for brittle bricks, you can contact the helpdesk at Lego and if the part is still
in production they will send you replacements for free if I remember correctly
for brittle bricks, you can contact the helpdesk at Lego and if the part is still
in production they will send you replacements for free if I remember correctly
It is probable that Lego is working hard to stay ahead of the legislation curve;
sustainability legislation is passing in many areas, especially the EU.
Pentatonic takes ownership of the bulk parts you send in. The “circular economy”
industry is quickly growing and is already a billion dollar+ industry. Pentatonic
is a leader in that field, having worked on many bespoke projects and bigger
projects like recycling plastic Burger King Happy Meal toys.
My guess is that Pentatonic has been hired to do big picture analyses for Lego,
to determine how they can stay ahead of sustainability legislation. Of course
much of this is optics, but a large part of it are the emerging legislative requirements
Lego will have to meet. That being said, I do think Lego sincerely wants to
improve their sustainability overall, which is obviously a huge task for a massive
and popular plastic toy company.
Cynically - how can we appear to be doing large-scale sustainability projects?
Optimistically - we sincerely want to do better at sustainability.
Realistically - a bit of both.
It is highly unlikely that Pentatonic would recommend a replacement of the current
secondary Lego market. It is a hugely complex system with an avid and money-spending
fan base. However, I can see them starting to include Bricklink “sustainability”
challenges of some sort on the main page. I can also see them promoting Bricklink
as part of their recycling/circularity process. Maybe that is why they bought
Bricklink?
I can’t imagine Lego officially offering for sale hundreds of used 2x2 bricks
- this would directly impact their sales of Creative kits etc. I can’t imagine
them selling individual parts - as we all know, the amount of time involved in
that, not to mention the quality control issues, sustainable packaging issues,
etc. are significant. Just switching to paper boxes on the PAB walls was a major
undertaking.
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If you’re interested in the Nuts and Bolts:
From Pentatonic’s website:
About us
Pentatonic is a Climate-tech software and services provider building AI models,
materials tracking and analysis systems and more that helps the world's biggest
corporations and brands unlock the Circular Economy in their products, supply
chains and business models - a critical part of the move to Net Zero.
Pentatonic has divisions and teams covering material science, product design,
engineering, supply chain, manufacturing, brand development and technology, allowing
it to work on end-to-end solutions for its clients, including designing and operating
takeback programmes, redesigning product portfolios, developing global recycling
supply chains and creating branded consumer activations to engage with customers
and make closed loop consumption a reality.
With a client roster including Starbucks, Burger King, Nike, L'Oreal, Lego,
Muji, Eileen Fisher, Microsoft and Diageo, and offices in Berlin, London and
New York, Pentatonic is truly a global player in the Circular Economy industry.
This week the European Council gave final approval to a raft of sustainability-focused
legislation ahead of upcoming EU elections, including:
1️⃣ Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence Directive (
hashtag
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Requires affected companies to end or mitigate their adverse impact on human
rights and the environment, as well as commit to transition plans compatible
with the Paris Agreement global warming limit of 1.5°C.
2️⃣ Right-to-Repair Directive (
hashtag
#R2R)
Mandates timely and cost-effective repair services from manufacturers, and requires
them to inform customers about their right to repair. It also enforces national
measures to promote affordable repair.
3️⃣ Ecodesign Regulation
Sets heightened standards for durability, reparability, energy efficiency, and
recyclability. It also enforces a Digital Product Passport (
hashtag
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4️⃣Net-Zero Industry Act
Aims to create favourable conditions for investment in green technologies, and
sets EU targets on the manufacturing capacity of
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I've thought about it and think this is a good way to unload dead stock.
I started my store in 2017 and some items are still in my inventory despite steep
discounts. I'm packing all of that up and sending it to Lego Buy Back.
Then I'll look at stock from 2018, 2019, etc. Until I earn enough for the
next Modular Building in January. I'm sending them all my old grays and browns.
This may diminish my variety of inventory, but this stuff isn't selling anyway.
I see this as a win. Move stock that no one seems interested in buying in exchange
for a set that I would have bought anyway.
But, like others on this thread, I speculate on what they will do with the 1000s
of pounds of Lego that are about to arrive in Kentucky. How will they sort this
all out? Does it matter to sort it out? How will they package this up for kids?
I've thought about it and think this is a good way to unload dead stock.
I started my store in 2017 and some items are still in my inventory despite steep
discounts. I'm packing all of that up and sending it to Lego Buy Back.
Then I'll look at stock from 2018, 2019, etc. Until I earn enough for the
next Modular Building in January. I'm sending them all my old grays and browns.
This may diminish my variety of inventory, but this stuff isn't selling anyway.
I see this as a win. Move stock that no one seems interested in buying in exchange
for a set that I would have bought anyway.
But, like others on this thread, I speculate on what they will do with the 1000s
of pounds of Lego that are about to arrive in Kentucky. How will they sort this
all out? Does it matter to sort it out? How will they package this up for kids?
Are they going to start up their own MEGA store and wipe out all the sellers
on BrickLink?
I've thought about it and think this is a good way to unload dead stock.
I started my store in 2017 and some items are still in my inventory despite steep
discounts. I'm packing all of that up and sending it to Lego Buy Back.
Then I'll look at stock from 2018, 2019, etc. Until I earn enough for the
next Modular Building in January. I'm sending them all my old grays and browns.
This may diminish my variety of inventory, but this stuff isn't selling anyway.
I see this as a win. Move stock that no one seems interested in buying in exchange
for a set that I would have bought anyway.
But, like others on this thread, I speculate on what they will do with the 1000s
of pounds of Lego that are about to arrive in Kentucky. How will they sort this
all out? Does it matter to sort it out? How will they package this up for kids?
Are they going to start up their own MEGA store and wipe out all the sellers
on BrickLink?
If Lego wants Bricklink shut down, this would be a labor-intensive, plodding,
uncertain way of doing it. They own this website. They could just turn it off.
Are they going to start up their own MEGA store and wipe out all the sellers
on BrickLink?
If Lego wants Bricklink shut down, this would be a labor-intensive, plodding,
uncertain way of doing it. They own this website. They could just turn it off.
They also could have started with store for Pick-a-Brick. Doesn’t New sell more
than Used too?
Anyway, we are approaching the 5th anniversary of the buy out and there’s still
doomsaying? 5 years is a long time and much money spent if the goal was just
to kill BL.
Yes, agreed. I think they are far more likely to promote Bricklink as a PART
of their Renew/Reuse programs than to get rid of it. Bricklink is a prime example
of the circular market, which is what Pentatonic specializes in and what Lego
Inc. is trying to grow.
In General, SylvainLS writes:
In General, axaday writes:
[…]
Are they going to start up their own MEGA store and wipe out all the sellers
on BrickLink?
If Lego wants Bricklink shut down, this would be a labor-intensive, plodding,
uncertain way of doing it. They own this website. They could just turn it off.
They also could have started with store for Pick-a-Brick. Doesn’t New sell more
than Used too?
Anyway, we are approaching the 5th anniversary of the buy out and there’s still
doomsaying? 5 years is a long time and much money spent if the goal was just
to kill BL.
Are they going to start up their own MEGA store and wipe out all the sellers
on BrickLink?
If Lego wants Bricklink shut down, this would be a labor-intensive, plodding,
uncertain way of doing it. They own this website. They could just turn it off.
They also could have started with store for Pick-a-Brick. Doesn’t New sell more
than Used too?
Anyway, we are approaching the 5th anniversary of the buy out and there’s still
doomsaying? 5 years is a long time and much money spent if the goal was just
to kill BL.
^ This. The LEGO Group are investing considerable resources into BrickLink in
a number of ways. It took some time, but we are only seeing the beginning of
the payoff. The BDP is much too valuable of a program for the LEGO Group to let
BrickLink go at this point.
Are they going to start up their own MEGA store and wipe out all the sellers
on BrickLink?
If Lego wants Bricklink shut down, this would be a labor-intensive, plodding,
uncertain way of doing it. They own this website. They could just turn it off.
They also could have started with store for Pick-a-Brick. Doesn’t New sell more
than Used too?
Anyway, we are approaching the 5th anniversary of the buy out and there’s still
doomsaying? 5 years is a long time and much money spent if the goal was just
to kill BL.
^ This. The LEGO Group are investing considerable resources into BrickLink in
a number of ways. It took some time, but we are only seeing the beginning of
the payoff. The BDP is much too valuable of a program for the LEGO Group to let
BrickLink go at this point.
Anyway, we are approaching the 5th anniversary of the buy out and there’s still
doomsaying? 5 years is a long time and much money spent if the goal was just
to kill BL.
+1 I fully believe lego not only wants to keep bricklink around but also wants
to grow it and develop it more.
I've thought about it and think this is a good way to unload dead stock.
I started my store in 2017 and some items are still in my inventory despite steep
discounts. I'm packing all of that up and sending it to Lego Buy Back.
Then I'll look at stock from 2018, 2019, etc. Until I earn enough for the
next Modular Building in January. I'm sending them all my old grays and browns.
This may diminish my variety of inventory, but this stuff isn't selling anyway.
I would be potentially interested in buying the light gray
I see this as a win. Move stock that no one seems interested in buying in exchange
for a set that I would have bought anyway.
But, like others on this thread, I speculate on what they will do with the 1000s
of pounds of Lego that are about to arrive in Kentucky. How will they sort this
all out? Does it matter to sort it out? How will they package this up for kids?
I've thought about it and think this is a good way to unload dead stock.
I started my store in 2017 and some items are still in my inventory despite steep
discounts. I'm packing all of that up and sending it to Lego Buy Back.
Just FYI:
1.3. Can I also sell my LEGO® bricks if I act in my capacity as a business?
No, we only offer to take back LEGO® bricks if you are an individual consumer.
Therefore, all legally recognized entities, including businesses, government
agencies, non-profits, associations, partnerships, and other corporate entities,
are explicitly excluded under these Terms and Conditions.
I've thought about it and think this is a good way to unload dead stock.
I started my store in 2017 and some items are still in my inventory despite steep
discounts. I'm packing all of that up and sending it to Lego Buy Back.
Then I'll look at stock from 2018, 2019, etc. Until I earn enough for the
next Modular Building in January. I'm sending them all my old grays and browns.
This may diminish my variety of inventory, but this stuff isn't selling anyway.
I’ll buy some old greys and browns in bulk, anything to keep those old and slowly
growing rare colours safe
I see this as a win. Move stock that no one seems interested in buying in exchange
for a set that I would have bought anyway.
But, like others on this thread, I speculate on what they will do with the 1000s
of pounds of Lego that are about to arrive in Kentucky. How will they sort this
all out? Does it matter to sort it out? How will they package this up for kids?
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