Is their “legal LEGO way” of repairing LEGO wires?
I know that it can be done, but is there certain guidelines to follow to be able
to resell them here? Like for example using the same type of wire from the same
manufacturer as LEGO? Or is it just ok so long as it does the same thing, looks
the same and is the same length?
Is their “legal LEGO way” of repairing LEGO wires?
I know that it can be done, but is there certain guidelines to follow to be able
to resell them here? Like for example using the same type of wire from the same
manufacturer as LEGO? Or is it just ok so long as it does the same thing, looks
the same and is the same length?
No. It's like strings and rubbers: if it's not from LEGO, it's not
LEGO, even it looks, swims, and quacks like the ones LEGO sells.
Is their “legal LEGO way” of repairing LEGO wires?
I know that it can be done, but is there certain guidelines to follow to be able
to resell them here? Like for example using the same type of wire from the same
manufacturer as LEGO? Or is it just ok so long as it does the same thing, looks
the same and is the same length?
No. It's like strings and rubbers: if it's not from LEGO, it's not
LEGO, even it looks, swims, and quacks like the ones LEGO sells.
But wouldn’t it still be LEGO if you used the same stuff as them? Nothings really
changed.
[…]
But wouldn’t it still be LEGO if you used the same stuff as them? Nothings really
changed.
No.
Imagine if you applied the same logic to ABS bricks?
“Oh, it's the same plastic, it's the same shape, it's LEGO!… even
if it came in a box that says LEPIN.”
[…]
But wouldn’t it still be LEGO if you used the same stuff as them? Nothings really
changed.
No.
Imagine if you applied the same logic to ABS bricks?
“Oh, it's the same plastic, it's the same shape, it's LEGO!… even
if it came in a box that says LEPIN.”
No, but if where to use the exact same spool of wire that LEGO uses, and you
repair the wire wouldn’t that be the same as the old one?
[…]
No, but if where to use the exact same spool of wire that LEGO uses, and you
repair the wire wouldn’t that be the same as the old one?
Repeating the same question over and over won't change the answer.
I just don’t understand😔
those spools simply no longer exist. you can find similar ones but they are still
not the "exact same" ones that lego uses and in addition by repairing
them you would modify the part making them unlistable
What are we to do?🥺
sell them as is with notes. on bricklink you cant "fix" them to resell
with non lego parts so they must be sold as is and if a customer wants to fix
it they can but there is nothing the seller can do
After a while there will be nothing.
so it will be with every part if you give it enough time
[…]
No, but if where to use the exact same spool of wire that LEGO uses, and you
repair the wire wouldn’t that be the same as the old one?
Repeating the same question over and over won't change the answer.
I just don’t understand😔
those spools simply no longer exist. you can find similar ones but they are still
not the "exact same" ones that lego uses and in addition by repairing
them you would modify the part making them unlistable
What are we to do?🥺
sell them as is with notes. on bricklink you cant "fix" them to resell
with non lego parts so they must be sold as is and if a customer wants to fix
it they can but there is nothing the seller can do
After a while there will be nothing.
so it will be with every part if you give it enough time
Well, in my opinion TLG should repair these items, they made the defective ones
so they should replace it.
Selling aside, do you think it would be right it repair them?
I don’t want to modify them by fixing them but what else can we do? Very sad.
[…]
No, but if where to use the exact same spool of wire that LEGO uses, and you
repair the wire wouldn’t that be the same as the old one?
Repeating the same question over and over won't change the answer.
I just don’t understand😔
those spools simply no longer exist. you can find similar ones but they are still
not the "exact same" ones that lego uses and in addition by repairing
them you would modify the part making them unlistable
What are we to do?🥺
sell them as is with notes. on bricklink you cant "fix" them to resell
with non lego parts so they must be sold as is and if a customer wants to fix
it they can but there is nothing the seller can do
After a while there will be nothing.
so it will be with every part if you give it enough time
Well, in my opinion TLG should repair these items, they made the defective ones
so they should replace it.
they weren't "made defective" they were made a long time ago and
just about all toys from that era are damaged now. sadly that's how things
work
Selling aside, do you think it would be right it repair them?
I don’t want to modify them by fixing them but what else can we do? Very sad.
for personal use sure but not for reselling on bricklink
[…]
No, but if where to use the exact same spool of wire that LEGO uses, and you
repair the wire wouldn’t that be the same as the old one?
Repeating the same question over and over won't change the answer.
I just don’t understand😔
those spools simply no longer exist. you can find similar ones but they are still
not the "exact same" ones that lego uses and in addition by repairing
them you would modify the part making them unlistable
What are we to do?🥺
sell them as is with notes. on bricklink you cant "fix" them to resell
with non lego parts so they must be sold as is and if a customer wants to fix
it they can but there is nothing the seller can do
After a while there will be nothing.
so it will be with every part if you give it enough time
Well, in my opinion TLG should repair these items, they made the defective ones
so they should replace it.
they weren't "made defective" they were made a long time ago and
just about all toys from that era are damaged now. sadly that's how things
work
the 2nd law of thermodynamics. the worst law of all
Selling aside, do you think it would be right it repair them?
I don’t want to modify them by fixing them but what else can we do? Very sad.
for personal use sure but not for reselling on bricklink
I don’t want to modify my parts but when you have nothing else I may have to
They aren’t even expensive parts
price doesn't override rules
I’m just saying even if you have one with no problem you aren’t gunna get much
[…]
No, but if where to use the exact same spool of wire that LEGO uses, and you
repair the wire wouldn’t that be the same as the old one?
Repeating the same question over and over won't change the answer.
I just don’t understand😔
those spools simply no longer exist. you can find similar ones but they are still
not the "exact same" ones that lego uses and in addition by repairing
them you would modify the part making them unlistable
What are we to do?🥺
sell them as is with notes. on bricklink you cant "fix" them to resell
with non lego parts so they must be sold as is and if a customer wants to fix
it they can but there is nothing the seller can do
After a while there will be nothing.
so it will be with every part if you give it enough time
Well, in my opinion TLG should repair these items, they made the defective ones
so they should replace it.
they weren't "made defective" they were made a long time ago and
just about all toys from that era are damaged now. sadly that's how things
work
That's not precisely correct. TLG made wire connectors, they used insulated
wire made by other parties. Some of the wires had insulation that did not stand
up to time/heat/humidity like the various materials that TLG uses for building
blocks. They were probably good for 5-10 years after they were made, but no longer.
Somewhere here I have a ~50 year old roll of ribbon cable. It is doing the exact
same thing, as the insulation was not made for that lifespan. So it goes.
There's nothing wrong if someone wants to repair them, they just can't
be sold here. Not sure if that same policy exists over at BO.
[…]
No, but if where to use the exact same spool of wire that LEGO uses, and you
repair the wire wouldn’t that be the same as the old one?
Repeating the same question over and over won't change the answer.
So if I had a Lego star wars LED keychain and replace the battery, I can no longer
sell it on here a it is not the original battery ??????
The difference is that the battery is a consumable with a limited life that will
have to be replaced eventually. It was designed with that in mind as you can
get to it without too much trouble. The wires were not thought of as being needed
to be replaced.
[…]
No, but if where to use the exact same spool of wire that LEGO uses, and you
repair the wire wouldn’t that be the same as the old one?
Repeating the same question over and over won't change the answer.
So if I had a Lego star wars LED keychain and replace the battery, I can no longer
sell it on here a it is not the original battery ??????
The difference is that the battery is a consumable with a limited life that will
have to be replaced eventually. It was designed with that in mind as you can
get to it without too much trouble. The wires were not thought of as being needed
to be replaced.
So if I had a Lego star wars LED keychain and replace the battery, I can no longer
sell it on here a it is not the original battery ??????
The difference is that the battery is a consumable with a limited life that will
have to be replaced eventually. It was designed with that in mind as you can
get to it without too much trouble. The wires were not thought of as being needed
to be replaced.
Yes, there's a difference between changing a battery and re-wiring connectors.
Also, I don't think batteries are in inventories… are they?
One could argue about the rule for strings, rubber bands, or hoses… but, AFAIK,
for these, the source is unknown, so all there's is “they look exactly the
same!” (which they often don't).
So if I had a Lego star wars LED keychain and replace the battery, I can no longer
sell it on here a it is not the original battery ??????
The difference is that the battery is a consumable with a limited life that will
have to be replaced eventually. It was designed with that in mind as you can
get to it without too much trouble. The wires were not thought of as being needed
to be replaced.
Yes, there's a difference between changing a battery and re-wiring connectors.
Also, I don't think batteries are in inventories… are they?
One could argue about the rule for strings, rubber bands, or hoses… but, AFAIK,
for these, the source is unknown, so all there's is “they look exactly the
same!” (which they often don't).
(Is the first one a standard battery? Or is the connector special-made?)
Anyway, they are marked for deletion and modern standard batteries, such as those
needed for light bricks, are not in the inventories.
There's just a note about the part using LR41 batteries.
A seller could note that the batteries are:
— old,
— new ones,
— not there at all (which would be a better idea if you need to send them as
shipping batteries is supposed to regulated),
and that wouldn't affect the New-ness and completeness of a set for BL.
Electric wires, strings, rubber bands, and hoses are in inventories and their
absence/presence and origins changes the completeness of a set.
(Is the first one a standard battery? Or is the connector special-made?)
Anyway, they are marked for deletion and modern standard batteries, such as those
needed for light bricks, are not in the inventories.
There's just a note about the part using LR41 batteries.
A seller could note that the batteries are:
— old,
— new ones,
— not there at all (which would be a better idea if you need to send them as
shipping batteries is supposed to regulated),
and that wouldn't affect the New-ness and completeness of a set for BL.
Electric wires, strings, rubber bands, and hoses are in inventories and their
absence/presence and origins changes the completeness of a set.
...to be clear: I agree with you completely (I just couldn't help myself
after checking the catalog)...
So if I had a Lego star wars LED keychain and replace the battery, I can no longer
sell it on here a it is not the original battery ??????
The difference is that the battery is a consumable with a limited life that will
have to be replaced eventually. It was designed with that in mind as you can
get to it without too much trouble. The wires were not thought of as being needed
to be replaced.
Yes, there's a difference between changing a battery and re-wiring connectors.
Also, I don't think batteries are in inventories… are they?
One could argue about the rule for strings, rubber bands, or hoses… but, AFAIK,
for these, the source is unknown, so all there's is “they look exactly the
same!” (which they often don't).
What if you get a repaired one, but since it looks the same you have no clue
it has had the wire replaced?
[…]
What if you get a repaired one, but since it looks the same you have no clue
it has had the wire replaced?
If there's no patrol / radar to measure it but someone drives faster than
the speed limit and crashes in the woods, do they make a sound?
What does that have to do with my question?
It means that you're once again asking the same question.
Either you have genuine LEGO stuff or you don't.
Either you know you have genuine LEGO stuff or you don't.
Knowing and having are two different things but:
— If you don't have genuine LEGO stuff but say you have, you're a fraudster.
— If you don't have genuine LEGO stuff but were old it was, you got defrauded.
[…]
What if you get a repaired one, but since it looks the same you have no clue
it has had the wire replaced?
If there's no patrol / radar to measure it but someone drives faster than
the speed limit and crashes in the woods, do they make a sound?
What does that have to do with my question?
It means that you're once again asking the same question.
Either you have genuine LEGO stuff or you don't.
Either you know you have genuine LEGO stuff or you don't.
Knowing and having are two different things but:
— If you don't have genuine LEGO stuff but say you have, you're a fraudster.
— If you don't have genuine LEGO stuff but were old it was, you got defrauded.
How am I going to know the real thing from the fake if they are the same?
It means that you're once again asking the same question.
Either you have genuine LEGO stuff or you don't.
Either you know you have genuine LEGO stuff or you don't.
Knowing and having are two different things but:
— If you don't have genuine LEGO stuff but say you have, you're a fraudster.
— If you don't have genuine LEGO stuff but were old it was, you got defrauded.
How am I going to know the real thing from the fake if they are the same?
You won't know.
But the point of all this is that, whatever you know, it's always fraud to
say something is genuine when it's not.
It means that you're once again asking the same question.
Either you have genuine LEGO stuff or you don't.
Either you know you have genuine LEGO stuff or you don't.
Knowing and having are two different things but:
— If you don't have genuine LEGO stuff but say you have, you're a fraudster.
— If you don't have genuine LEGO stuff but were old it was, you got defrauded.
How am I going to know the real thing from the fake if they are the same?
You won't know.
But the point of all this is that, whatever you know, it's always fraud to
say something is genuine when it's not.
So someone selling repaired wires out of not knowing is still a fraudster, even
though they had no clue?
It's not because you can't tell the difference between a random painting
and a Picasso that it's a genuine Picasso and that selling it as Picasso
is not a fraud.
Especially when you found the painting pinned in the kitchen of the parent of
a 4-year-old.
It's not because you can't tell the difference between a random painting
and a Picasso that it's a genuine Picasso and that selling it as Picasso
is not a fraud.
Especially when you found the painting pinned in the kitchen of the parent of
a 4-year-old.
You think that someone who bought a RCX won't replace the wires because they
need them? In that case the wires will blend in and they look like they came
from that set.
[…]
You think that someone who bought a RCX won't replace the wires because they
need them? In that case the wires will blend in and they look like they came
from that set.
Once again (what, the 4th or 5th time?), I'm not saying you can't replace
the wires or you won't find parts with the wires replaced. I'm saying
that:
1. replaced wires are not genuine LEGO,
2. you can't sell parts on BrickLink as genuine LEGO if you aren't sure
they are.
[…]
You think that someone who bought a RCX won't replace the wires because they
need them? In that case the wires will blend in and they look like they came
from that set.
Once again (what, the 4th or 5th time?), I'm not saying you can't replace
the wires or you won't find parts with the wires replaced. I'm saying
that:
1. replaced wires are not genuine LEGO,
2. you can't sell parts on BrickLink as genuine LEGO if you aren't sure
they are.
Are you obtuse on purpose?
No, I'm just trying the understand.
If you open a new set and the wires are all rotted and don't work is it right
to sell them as new?
[…]
If you open a new set and the wires are all rotted and don't work is it right
to sell them as new?
No. You wouldn't sell a heavily damaged box (water damage for instance)
as New, would you?
Now, if you get the set sealed and don't open it, you can sell it as New
Sealed… and too bad for the buyer if the wires are rotten… the same way as if
parts are missing or there's unusable short shots or whatever may have happened
in the factory or in the time since then.
See previous threads here about old tyres that leak ‘oil’ and rubber bands that
dry and crumble.
[…]
If you open a new set and the wires are all rotted and don't work is it right
to sell them as new?
No. You wouldn't sell a heavily damaged box (water damage for instance)
as New, would you?
But according to guidelines you could, and can.
Now, if you get the set sealed and don't open it, you can sell it as New
Sealed… and too bad for the buyer if the wires are rotten… the same way as if
parts are missing or there's unusable short shots or whatever may have happened
in the factory or in the time since then.
See previous threads here about old tyres that leak ‘oil’ and rubber bands that
dry and crumble.
[…]
If you open a new set and the wires are all rotted and don't work is it right
to sell them as new?
No. You wouldn't sell a heavily damaged box (water damage for instance)
as New, would you?
But according to guidelines you could, and can.
maybe according to bricklink but at that point PayPal would likely override them
Now, if you get the set sealed and don't open it, you can sell it as New
Sealed… and too bad for the buyer if the wires are rotten… the same way as if
parts are missing or there's unusable short shots or whatever may have happened
in the factory or in the time since then.
See previous threads here about old tyres that leak ‘oil’ and rubber bands that
dry and crumble.
[…]
If you open a new set and the wires are all rotted and don't work is it right
to sell them as new?
No. You wouldn't sell a heavily damaged box (water damage for instance)
as New, would you?
But according to guidelines you could, and can.
maybe according to bricklink but at that point PayPal would likely override them
True
Now, if you get the set sealed and don't open it, you can sell it as New
Sealed… and too bad for the buyer if the wires are rotten… the same way as if
parts are missing or there's unusable short shots or whatever may have happened
in the factory or in the time since then.
See previous threads here about old tyres that leak ‘oil’ and rubber bands that
dry and crumble.
[…]
You think that someone who bought a RCX won't replace the wires because they
need them? In that case the wires will blend in and they look like they came
from that set.
Once again (what, the 4th or 5th time?), I'm not saying you can't replace
the wires or you won't find parts with the wires replaced. I'm saying
that:
1. replaced wires are not genuine LEGO,
2. you can't sell parts on BrickLink as genuine LEGO if you aren't sure
they are.
Are you obtuse on purpose?
I've stated many times now, this poster is trolling IMO.
[…]
You think that someone who bought a RCX won't replace the wires because they
need them? In that case the wires will blend in and they look like they came
from that set.
Once again (what, the 4th or 5th time?), I'm not saying you can't replace
the wires or you won't find parts with the wires replaced. I'm saying
that:
1. replaced wires are not genuine LEGO,
2. you can't sell parts on BrickLink as genuine LEGO if you aren't sure
they are.
Are you obtuse on purpose?
I've stated many times now, this poster is trolling IMO.
They know the answer they want and are trying to get it so they can say "The
forums said it was ok." When they get caught.
[…]
You think that someone who bought a RCX won't replace the wires because they
need them? In that case the wires will blend in and they look like they came
from that set.
Once again (what, the 4th or 5th time?), I'm not saying you can't replace
the wires or you won't find parts with the wires replaced. I'm saying
that:
1. replaced wires are not genuine LEGO,
2. you can't sell parts on BrickLink as genuine LEGO if you aren't sure
they are.
Are you obtuse on purpose?
I've stated many times now, this poster is trolling IMO.
Is their “legal LEGO way” of repairing LEGO wires?
I know that it can be done, but is there certain guidelines to follow to be able
to resell them here? Like for example using the same type of wire from the same
manufacturer as LEGO? Or is it just ok so long as it does the same thing, looks
the same and is the same length?
Can you tell it's been repaired?
I have some 9v wires that need to be rewired and have not had great success myself.
Was also quoted $10 each each to rewire - was is much... but if somebody
was offering a service at a fair price
Is their “legal LEGO way” of repairing LEGO wires?
I know that it can be done, but is there certain guidelines to follow to be able
to resell them here? Like for example using the same type of wire from the same
manufacturer as LEGO? Or is it just ok so long as it does the same thing, looks
the same and is the same length?
Can you tell it's been repaired?
I have some 9v wires that need to be rewired and have not had great success myself.
Was also quoted $10 each each to rewire - was is much... but if somebody
was offering a service at a fair price
AB
I have rewired a number of them and sold them here at a discounted price. I figured
that Lego made the ends and bought the wire from an outside supplier so what
does it matter if they have replaced wire (thats not missing the insulation)
that looks and functions as the original once did. They are not much fun to work
on to be honest. After they are apart straighten the brass prongs, use wire
that is the same thickness or slightly thinner and pliable.
Is their “legal LEGO way” of repairing LEGO wires?
I know that it can be done, but is there certain guidelines to follow to be able
to resell them here? Like for example using the same type of wire from the same
manufacturer as LEGO? Or is it just ok so long as it does the same thing, looks
the same and is the same length?
Can you tell it's been repaired?
I have some 9v wires that need to be rewired and have not had great success myself.
Was also quoted $10 each each to rewire - was is much... but if somebody
was offering a service at a fair price
AB
I have rewired a number of them and sold them here at a discounted price. I figured
that Lego made the ends and bought the wire from an outside supplier so what
does it matter if they have replaced wire (thats not missing the insulation)
that looks and functions as the original once did. They are not much fun to work
on to be honest. After they are apart straighten the brass prongs, use wire
that is the same thickness or slightly thinner and pliable.
I have tried a couple times but without success. I will try again.
There are plenty of tutorials online and purchasing wire that is (or appears
to be) identical to the original is not hard.
I need a punch tool to pre-insert/set the wires as they don't want to consistently
set into the metal prongs. Maybe I am not patient enough - or have the fine motor
skills - or have the right guide/template/tool to snap the parts back together.
Is their “legal LEGO way” of repairing LEGO wires?
I know that it can be done, but is there certain guidelines to follow to be able
to resell them here? Like for example using the same type of wire from the same
manufacturer as LEGO? Or is it just ok so long as it does the same thing, looks
the same and is the same length?
You should call LEGO and see if you can get replacement parts.
It used to be that they had the LEGO Spares Service, I don't know what they
have nowadays. I do know, though, that if you call LEGO or email them, they will
usually be happy to help if they can.
There doesn't seem to be an official policy from The LEGO Group about how
old parts should be treated, or whether they should be replaced or sent back
to LEGO for repairs or replacements.
I would strongly advise contacting them and see if they can issue to you an official
statement on what should happen with old electric systems included with sets
from years ago. Presumably they have some policy, ask them and let us know.
Is their “legal LEGO way” of repairing LEGO wires?
I know that it can be done, but is there certain guidelines to follow to be able
to resell them here? Like for example using the same type of wire from the same
manufacturer as LEGO? Or is it just ok so long as it does the same thing, looks
the same and is the same length?
You should call LEGO and see if you can get replacement parts.
It used to be that they had the LEGO Spares Service, I don't know what they
have nowadays. I do know, though, that if you call LEGO or email them, they will
usually be happy to help if they can.
There doesn't seem to be an official policy from The LEGO Group about how
old parts should be treated, or whether they should be replaced or sent back
to LEGO for repairs or replacements.
I would strongly advise contacting them and see if they can issue to you an official
statement on what should happen with old electric systems included with sets
from years ago. Presumably they have some policy, ask them and let us know.
Is their “legal LEGO way” of repairing LEGO wires?
I know that it can be done, but is there certain guidelines to follow to be able
to resell them here? Like for example using the same type of wire from the same
manufacturer as LEGO? Or is it just ok so long as it does the same thing, looks
the same and is the same length?
You should call LEGO and see if you can get replacement parts.
It used to be that they had the LEGO Spares Service, I don't know what they
have nowadays. I do know, though, that if you call LEGO or email them, they will
usually be happy to help if they can.
There doesn't seem to be an official policy from The LEGO Group about how
old parts should be treated, or whether they should be replaced or sent back
to LEGO for repairs or replacements.
I would strongly advise contacting them and see if they can issue to you an official
statement on what should happen with old electric systems included with sets
from years ago. Presumably they have some policy, ask them and let us know.
That cone part exists with axle hole, see my response to the thread. I'm
thinking they really need to find rare pieces which would be otherwise hard to
find, and get them included in a variety of Creator sets.
Variety is the spice of life, so they say, so one way of keeping customers happy
is to have parts readily available in replacement colors. I don't know what
they'd do with special pieces that are intentionally rare, but if it's
not really intended to be rare, at least the LEGO Customer Service team could
keep records of parts that exist with different variations. They also have a
most excellent database to look up in, and you'd be right if you stated it's
BrickLink!
Is their “legal LEGO way” of repairing LEGO wires?
I know that it can be done, but is there certain guidelines to follow to be able
to resell them here? Like for example using the same type of wire from the same
manufacturer as LEGO? Or is it just ok so long as it does the same thing, looks
the same and is the same length?
You should call LEGO and see if you can get replacement parts.
It used to be that they had the LEGO Spares Service, I don't know what they
have nowadays. I do know, though, that if you call LEGO or email them, they will
usually be happy to help if they can.
There doesn't seem to be an official policy from The LEGO Group about how
old parts should be treated, or whether they should be replaced or sent back
to LEGO for repairs or replacements.
I would strongly advise contacting them and see if they can issue to you an official
statement on what should happen with old electric systems included with sets
from years ago. Presumably they have some policy, ask them and let us know.
That cone part exists with axle hole, see my response to the thread. I'm
thinking they really need to find rare pieces which would be otherwise hard to
find, and get them included in a variety of Creator sets.
Luckily for you they do that almost weekly 😅 they are keeping us sellers on
our feet
Variety is the spice of life, so they say, so one way of keeping customers happy
is to have parts readily available in replacement colors. I don't know what
they'd do with special pieces that are intentionally rare, but if it's
not really intended to be rare, at least the LEGO Customer Service team could
keep records of parts that exist with different variations. They also have a
most excellent database to look up in, and you'd be right if you stated it's
BrickLink!
Is coating the wires with some sort of protectant, or rubber rejuvenator ok?
In Help, Saitobricks.ca writes:
Is their “legal LEGO way” of repairing LEGO wires?
I know that it can be done, but is there certain guidelines to follow to be able
to resell them here? Like for example using the same type of wire from the same
manufacturer as LEGO? Or is it just ok so long as it does the same thing, looks
the same and is the same length?
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