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 Author: Biglesdug View Messages Posted By Biglesdug
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Biglesdug (2513)

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I recently ordered part
 
Part No: 3625  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
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3625 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
and I believe it to be fake. It does not have LEGO or copyright symbol. If
I found it in a lot it would go in the fake bin but before I ask for a refund
from the seller I would like opinions.
 
 Author: edk View Messages Posted By edk
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In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  I recently ordered part
 
Part No: 3625  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
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3625 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
and I believe it to be fake. It does not have LEGO or copyright symbol. If
I found it in a lot it would go in the fake bin but before I ask for a refund
from the seller I would like opinions.

I say real Lego
 Author: oukexergon View Messages Posted By oukexergon
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In Help, edk writes:
  In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  I recently ordered part
 
Part No: 3625  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
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3625 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
and I believe it to be fake. It does not have LEGO or copyright symbol. If
I found it in a lot it would go in the fake bin but before I ask for a refund
from the seller I would like opinions.

I say real Lego

Agreed. Several older hair/headgear molds (and some relatively newer ones) do
not have the Lego stamp (and some extremely recent ones have almost microscopic
stamps that are really hard to find). I would say this one is probably real Lego.
Unfortunately, I have discarded some from large purchased lots under the assumption
they were fake before eventually deciding to check my own collection and realizing
some of those didn't have the Lego stamp either and I knew them to be real
Lego! The same thing is true of older arms and various other parts. It's
a struggle.
 Author: Biglesdug View Messages Posted By Biglesdug
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In Help, oukexergon writes:
  In Help, edk writes:
  In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  I recently ordered part
 
Part No: 3625  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
* 
3625 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
and I believe it to be fake. It does not have LEGO or copyright symbol. If
I found it in a lot it would go in the fake bin but before I ask for a refund
from the seller I would like opinions.

I say real Lego

Agreed. Several older hair/headgear molds (and some relatively newer ones) do
not have the Lego stamp (and some extremely recent ones have almost microscopic
stamps that are really hard to find). I would say this one is probably real Lego.
Unfortunately, I have discarded some from large purchased lots under the assumption
they were fake before eventually deciding to check my own collection and realizing
some of those didn't have the Lego stamp either and I knew them to be real
Lego! The same thing is true of older arms and various other parts. It's
a struggle.

For me it's also the size of the ring for the head stud that looks off. Looks
thicker then it should be to me.
 Author: jbroman View Messages Posted By jbroman
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In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  In Help, oukexergon writes:
  In Help, edk writes:
  In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  I recently ordered part
 
Part No: 3625  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
* 
3625 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
and I believe it to be fake. It does not have LEGO or copyright symbol. If
I found it in a lot it would go in the fake bin but before I ask for a refund
from the seller I would like opinions.

I say real Lego

Agreed. Several older hair/headgear molds (and some relatively newer ones) do
not have the Lego stamp (and some extremely recent ones have almost microscopic
stamps that are really hard to find). I would say this one is probably real Lego.
Unfortunately, I have discarded some from large purchased lots under the assumption
they were fake before eventually deciding to check my own collection and realizing
some of those didn't have the Lego stamp either and I knew them to be real
Lego! The same thing is true of older arms and various other parts. It's
a struggle.

For me it's also the size of the ring for the head stud that looks off. Looks
thicker then it should be to me.

You can also take into consideration that it’s an older part that doesn’t have
many reasons to be faked.
If it was a recent design or very popular it would be more suspicious.
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
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In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  I recently ordered part
 
Part No: 3625  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
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3625 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
and I believe it to be fake. It does not have LEGO or copyright symbol. If
I found it in a lot it would go in the fake bin but before I ask for a refund
from the seller I would like opinions.

No doubt this part is original and probably from the early 1980's.
 Author: Biglesdug View Messages Posted By Biglesdug
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In Help, hpoort writes:
  In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  I recently ordered part
 
Part No: 3625  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
* 
3625 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
and I believe it to be fake. It does not have LEGO or copyright symbol. If
I found it in a lot it would go in the fake bin but before I ask for a refund
from the seller I would like opinions.

No doubt this part is original and probably from the early 1980's.

Ok thanks for the help everyone. Seems I may have binned quite a few authentic
parts over the years.
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
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In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  I recently ordered part
 
Part No: 3625  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
* 
3625 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
and I believe it to be fake. It does not have LEGO or copyright symbol. If
I found it in a lot it would go in the fake bin but before I ask for a refund
from the seller I would like opinions.

If you would put that part in the fake bin, then you shouldn't be sorting
LEGO.
 Author: Biglesdug View Messages Posted By Biglesdug
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In Help, crazylegoman writes:
  In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  I recently ordered part
 
Part No: 3625  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
* 
3625 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
and I believe it to be fake. It does not have LEGO or copyright symbol. If
I found it in a lot it would go in the fake bin but before I ask for a refund
from the seller I would like opinions.

If you would put that part in the fake bin, then you shouldn't be sorting
LEGO.

Normally I would brush this off but... why is it that I shouldn't be sorting
LEGO exactly?

Because I came to the forum to ask for people's help on a piece that does
not have the LEGO stamp or the copyright symbol? I can show you many examples
of fake hair/headgear that only have a number and have a different looking head
stud area.


With the influx of fake parts it seems better to be overly cautious rather than
not.

Maybe you shouldn't be replying to help threads...
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  In Help, crazylegoman writes:

  
  If you would put that part in the fake bin, then you shouldn't be sorting
LEGO.

Normally I would brush this off but... why is it that I shouldn't be sorting
LEGO exactly?

Because I came to the forum to ask for people's help on a piece that does
not have the LEGO stamp or the copyright symbol? I can show you many examples
of fake hair/headgear that only have a number and have a different looking head
stud area.

With the influx of fake parts it seems better to be overly cautious rather than
not.

He may means MANY LEGO parts don't have the LEGO logo, you must know this
already, and there's a Help page about this IIRC.

Plus I don't see any (recent?) "influx of fake parts".

Finally note that not IP (licences...) or patented items (Minifgures...) aren't
"fake": they're a different brand, AFAIK.

But don't think I promote them (or buy or sell) directly or indirectly
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In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  In Help, crazylegoman writes:
  In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  I recently ordered part
 
Part No: 3625  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
* 
3625 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
and I believe it to be fake. It does not have LEGO or copyright symbol. If
I found it in a lot it would go in the fake bin but before I ask for a refund
from the seller I would like opinions.

If you would put that part in the fake bin, then you shouldn't be sorting
LEGO.

Normally I would brush this off but... why is it that I shouldn't be sorting LEGO exactly?

Don't take it to heart, it's the forum after all

  
Because I came to the forum to ask for people's help on a piece that does
not have the LEGO stamp or the copyright symbol? I can show you many examples
of fake hair/headgear that only have a number and have a different looking head
stud area.

You got some quick and definitive feedback to your concern, no need to respond
to any further derogatory inputs, as I see it. Not who you are anyways, Doug.

  
With the influx of fake parts it seems better to be overly cautious rather than not.

"overly" over "not?" Doing the diligence in this very salient
matter is enough, you've done that ... Now turn your attention back towards
more consequential matters for you and yours.

  
Maybe you shouldn't be replying to help threads...

Some of us shouldn't, nonetheless

-popsicle
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In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  In Help, crazylegoman writes:
  In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  I recently ordered part
 
Part No: 3625  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
* 
3625 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
and I believe it to be fake. It does not have LEGO or copyright symbol. If
I found it in a lot it would go in the fake bin but before I ask for a refund
from the seller I would like opinions.

If you would put that part in the fake bin, then you shouldn't be sorting
LEGO.

Normally I would brush this off but... why is it that I shouldn't be sorting
LEGO exactly?

Because I came to the forum to ask for people's help on a piece that does
not have the LEGO stamp or the copyright symbol? I can show you many examples
of fake hair/headgear that only have a number and have a different looking head
stud area.


With the influx of fake parts it seems better to be overly cautious rather than
not.

Maybe you shouldn't be replying to help threads...

1001bricks is right—MANY LEGO parts don't have the LEGO logo. Imagine if
that 3625 was a white one, and you had thrown out. Those things are rare! The
forum is replete with people asking if a part is fake because there's no
LEGO logo, and the vast majority of the time it's a legit part. It baffles
me that someone with a feedback score as good as yours doesn't know how differentiate
clones from real LEGO more thoroughly.

I realize that I care about this more than other AFOLs, but to me when a LEGO
part is thrown away, it's a mini little tragedy. Like a tiny voice crying
out in terror and then suddenly silenced.
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In Off Topic, crazylegoman writes:
  In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  In Help, crazylegoman writes:
  In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  I recently ordered part
 
Part No: 3625  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
* 
3625 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
and I believe it to be fake. It does not have LEGO or copyright symbol. If
I found it in a lot it would go in the fake bin but before I ask for a refund
from the seller I would like opinions.

If you would put that part in the fake bin, then you shouldn't be sorting
LEGO.

Normally I would brush this off but... why is it that I shouldn't be sorting
LEGO exactly?

Because I came to the forum to ask for people's help on a piece that does
not have the LEGO stamp or the copyright symbol? I can show you many examples
of fake hair/headgear that only have a number and have a different looking head
stud area.


With the influx of fake parts it seems better to be overly cautious rather than
not.

Maybe you shouldn't be replying to help threads...

1001bricks is right—MANY LEGO parts don't have the LEGO logo. Imagine if
that 3625 was a white one, and you had thrown out. Those things are rare! The
forum is replete with people asking if a part is fake because there's no
LEGO logo, and the vast majority of the time it's a legit part. It baffles
me that someone with a feedback score as good as yours doesn't know how differentiate
clones from real LEGO more thoroughly.

I realize that I care about this more than other AFOLs, but to me when a LEGO
part is thrown away, it's a mini little tragedy. Like a tiny voice crying
out in terror and then suddenly silenced.


Then this should send you into a coma:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1454733
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In Off Topic, randyf writes:
  In Off Topic, crazylegoman writes:

  
  I realize that I care about this more than other AFOLs, but to me when a LEGO
part is thrown away, it's a mini little tragedy. Like a tiny voice crying
out in terror and then suddenly silenced.


Then this should send you into a coma:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1454733

But I already reported this picture twice!!!

It's toxic, unallowed, verboten, unplaisant, gross and a clear abuse of poor
nicely designed and kindly molded ABS parts.

I also reported this seller who's trying to sell them "New".

No need to thank me for my vigilance. Where are Moderators when we need them?
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In Off Topic, 1001bricks writes:
  In Off Topic, randyf writes:
  In Off Topic, crazylegoman writes:

  
  I realize that I care about this more than other AFOLs, but to me when a LEGO
part is thrown away, it's a mini little tragedy. Like a tiny voice crying
out in terror and then suddenly silenced.


Then this should send you into a coma:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1454733

But I already reported this picture twice!!!

It's toxic, unallowed, verboten, unplaisant, gross and a clear abuse of poor
nicely designed and kindly molded ABS parts.

I also reported this seller who's trying to sell them "New".

No need to thank me for my vigilance. Where are Moderators when we need them?

 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Off Topic, crazylegoman writes:
  In Help, Biglesdug writes:

  
  With the influx of fake parts it seems better to be overly cautious rather than
not.

Maybe you shouldn't be replying to help threads...

1001bricks is right—MANY LEGO parts don't have the LEGO logo. Imagine if
that 3625 was a white one, and you had thrown out. Those things are rare! The
forum is replete with people asking if a part is fake because there's no
LEGO logo, and the vast majority of the time it's a legit part. It baffles
me that someone with a feedback score as good as yours doesn't know how differentiate
clones from real LEGO more thoroughly.

Thank you!

While I must admit, I've recently been baffled by the weight / rigidity /
feel of brand new LEGO Technic pretty common parts (sorted from new sealed Sets)
which seemed to be... non LEGO

But yes, after a few years in this business (or passion) normally one could feel/know
if it seems legit or not. Then, we're all the same... but everyone's
different.
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In Off Topic, crazylegoman writes:
  In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  In Help, crazylegoman writes:
  In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  I recently ordered part
 
Part No: 3625  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
* 
3625 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
and I believe it to be fake. It does not have LEGO or copyright symbol. If
I found it in a lot it would go in the fake bin but before I ask for a refund
from the seller I would like opinions.

If you would put that part in the fake bin, then you shouldn't be sorting
LEGO.

Normally I would brush this off but... why is it that I shouldn't be sorting
LEGO exactly?

Because I came to the forum to ask for people's help on a piece that does
not have the LEGO stamp or the copyright symbol? I can show you many examples
of fake hair/headgear that only have a number and have a different looking head
stud area.


With the influx of fake parts it seems better to be overly cautious rather than
not.

Maybe you shouldn't be replying to help threads...

1001bricks is right—MANY LEGO parts don't have the LEGO logo. Imagine if
that 3625 was a white one, and you had thrown out. Those things are rare! The
forum is replete with people asking if a part is fake because there's no
LEGO logo, and the vast majority of the time it's a legit part. It baffles
me that someone with a feedback score as good as yours doesn't know how differentiate
clones from real LEGO more thoroughly.

I realize that I care about this more than other AFOLs, but to me when a LEGO
part is thrown away, it's a mini little tragedy. Like a tiny voice crying
out in terror and then suddenly silenced.

I’m well aware there is parts without the logo or copyright symbol, hence why
I asked about the part. If I thought otherwise I would have just tossed it without
asking.

I have a high feedback score because I do care and don’t want non LEGO in my
collection. I had a doubt, I figured I would ask, I got confirmation that it’s
real, it was saved. See how that worked. To me it doesn’t seem like that big
of a deal. Sorry me asking for help in the LEGO help thread caused you to be
baffled.

If you got more to say about me feel free to send it in a message.
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In Help, Biglesdug writes:
  I recently ordered part
 
Part No: 3625  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
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3625 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
and I believe it to be fake. It does not have LEGO or copyright symbol. If
I found it in a lot it would go in the fake bin but before I ask for a refund
from the seller I would like opinions.

The other thing that authentic Lego hair pieces (and maybe hats?) have, other
than a Lego logo or copyright symbol, is a number, and your piece has that.