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| | | Author: | SDF_Bricks  | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 13:05 | | Subject: | The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 142 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| As if it was not enough dealing with gray and bluish gray, we also have to contend
with the following:
1. Brown vs. Reddish Brown vs. Dar Red
2. Black vs. Dark Green
3. Color 'variability'
I've had parts sorted under artificial light and they all appear the 'same'.
However, when I look them under the sun, it's a whole spectrum. My group
of brownish 1x2 slopes turned out to be a mix of 5 shades
4. Reddish Brown
5. 'Regular' Brown
6. Slightly clearer Brown
7. Some dark red that is not completely opaque
8. Some dull brown
9. How does one separate all of these colors. I have a daytime job, and do not
get sun 24/7 ?
10. How bad is color variability?
11. Did TLG really need to produce that many colors?
12. I reckon many men have some inherent color blindness ... 
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| | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 13:08 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| You mentioned an artificial light dosnt help but I find the opposite. I have
a powerful led light at my table and the the colour differences are quite noticeable
compared to normal lightning. Perhaps try a strong led light
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 13:16 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | You mentioned an artificial light dosnt help but I find the opposite. I have
a powerful led light at my table
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You guys in Canada can't see sun light under the snow, I guess?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 13:19 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | You mentioned an artificial light dosnt help but I find the opposite. I have
a powerful led light at my table
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You guys in Canada can't see sun light under the snow, I guess?
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What is this “sun” you mention? 
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 13:20 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | You mentioned an artificial light dosnt help but I find the opposite. I have
a powerful led light at my table
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You guys in Canada can't see sun light under the snow, I guess?
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What is this “sun” you mention?
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It's a big Pizza oven. A really huge one.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 13:23 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | You mentioned an artificial light dosnt help but I find the opposite. I have
a powerful led light at my table
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You guys in Canada can't see sun light under the snow, I guess?
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What is this “sun” you mention?
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It's a big Pizza oven. A really huge one.
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🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 14:03 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | You mentioned an artificial light dosnt help but I find the opposite. I have
a powerful led light at my table
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You guys in Canada can't see sun light under the snow, I guess?
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You might actually be at the same latitude!
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 14:22 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, peregrinator writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | You mentioned an artificial light dosnt help but I find the opposite. I have
a powerful led light at my table
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You guys in Canada can't see sun light under the snow, I guess?
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You might actually be at the same latitude!
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At least I don't have the same attitude, ha!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 14:38 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, peregrinator writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | You mentioned an artificial light dosnt help but I find the opposite. I have
a powerful led light at my table
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You guys in Canada can't see sun light under the snow, I guess?
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You might actually be at the same latitude!
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At least I don't have the same attitude, ha!
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guess in Canada we are lucky
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 14:30 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, peregrinator writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | You mentioned an artificial light dosnt help but I find the opposite. I have
a powerful led light at my table
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You guys in Canada can't see sun light under the snow, I guess?
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You might actually be at the same latitude!
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We get the same sunlight but not the same snow 
I’m very close to the 45°N parallel… and I didn’t get any snow this year
There may have been a bit for a day or two in the countryland, a few km closer
to the mountain (Massif Central for me)… but nothing like in Canada.
(I mean, it’s not a “mountain country” here, it’s just not a plain / it’s hilly
and forested, but it’s not the Mediterranean coast, like 1001bricks.)
If I’m not mistaken, you’d be South of Madrid yourself. How’s that tan going?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 14:50 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, peregrinator writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | You mentioned an artificial light dosnt help but I find the opposite. I have
a powerful led light at my table
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You guys in Canada can't see sun light under the snow, I guess?
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You might actually be at the same latitude!
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We get the same sunlight but not the same snow
I’m very close to the 45°N parallel… and I didn’t get any snow this year
There may have been a bit for a day or two in the countryland, a few km closer
to the mountain (Massif Central for me)… but nothing like in Canada.
(I mean, it’s not a “mountain country” here, it’s just not a plain / it’s hilly
and forested, but it’s not the Mediterranean coast, like 1001bricks.)
If I’m not mistaken, you’d be South of Madrid yourself. How’s that tan going?
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They there measure in Karen degrees, not Kevin!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 15:26 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
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They there measure in Karen degrees, not Kevin!
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(But, wrong thread?)
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 13:18 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | You mentioned an artificial light dosnt help but I find the opposite. I have
a powerful led light at my table and the the colour differences are quite noticeable
compared to normal lightning. Perhaps try a strong led light
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It doesn’t need to be ‘strong,’ it needs to be the right colour temperature:
daylight temperature, 5700K (5000K to 6000K works).
Not something you want to continually work with.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 13:22 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | You mentioned an artificial light dosnt help but I find the opposite. I have
a powerful led light at my table and the the colour differences are quite noticeable
compared to normal lightning. Perhaps try a strong led light
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It doesn’t need to be ‘strong,’ it needs to be the right colour temperature:
daylight temperature, 5700K (5000K to 6000K works).
Not something you want to continually work with.
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Don’t know if I ever looked at the K thing on it it’s just a normal white led
desk light
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 13:29 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | You mentioned an artificial light dosnt help but I find the opposite. I have
a powerful led light at my table and the the colour differences are quite noticeable
compared to normal lightning. Perhaps try a strong led light
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It doesn’t need to be ‘strong,’ it needs to be the right colour temperature:
daylight temperature, 5700K (5000K to 6000K works).
Not something you want to continually work with.
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Don’t know if I ever looked at the K thing on it it’s just a normal white led
desk light
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(K = Kelvin)
There’s often a small multicoloured band on the packages nowadays.
It wasn’t something we had when we only had incandescent lightbulbs. At the
time, you chose the power (40W, 60W, 100W…) and the temperature was dependent
on that: more power = brighter = whiter (less yellow, more blue).
Just found that page, you don’t need to read, just look at the pretty pictures:
https://www.thelightbulb.co.uk/resources/colour_temperature/
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 14:01 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| pictures!
I just checked mine and it says its "6000-6500K"
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 15:15 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | pictures!
I just checked mine and it says its "6000-6500K"
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Did yours have a CRI rating on it? This is a color rendering grade, it describes
how accurately it renders the color.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 15:24 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | no idea its a generic one from china |
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 13:15 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | As if it was not enough dealing with gray and bluish gray, we also have to contend
with the following:
1. Brown vs. Reddish Brown vs. Dar Red
2. Black vs. Dark Green
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I cannot say I've ever had a problem telling apart brown, reddish brown and
dark red or black vs dark green.
Even old vs modern greys is quite easy in decent light.
I've noticed shades of dark red, same for pearl gold.
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| | | | | Author: | HC | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 13:25 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| if you want,there are special ''daylight'' lamps available.
you can find them in hobbyshops that sell brushes/paint/frame's for paintings.
it works for me.
In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | As if it was not enough dealing with gray and bluish gray, we also have to contend
with the following:
1. Brown vs. Reddish Brown vs. Dar Red
2. Black vs. Dark Green
3. Color 'variability'
I've had parts sorted under artificial light and they all appear the 'same'.
However, when I look them under the sun, it's a whole spectrum. My group
of brownish 1x2 slopes turned out to be a mix of 5 shades
4. Reddish Brown
5. 'Regular' Brown
6. Slightly clearer Brown
7. Some dark red that is not completely opaque
8. Some dull brown
9. How does one separate all of these colors. I have a daytime job, and do not
get sun 24/7 ?
10. How bad is color variability?
11. Did TLG really need to produce that many colors?
12. I reckon many men have some inherent color blindness ...
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 13:30 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, HC writes:
| | if you want,there are special ''daylight'' lamps available.
you can find them in hobbyshops that sell brushes/paint/frame's for paintings.
it works for me.
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On my desk I've this one.
The Amazon pics are really creepy, but it's a VERY good one (discontinued
now).
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B08C2ZV7NV
You can change the "K" temp (Kelvin degrees), and it's very helpful
especially to support a Camera if you wish to use items recognition (BrickStore,
Brickognize...)
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| | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 14:13 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
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9. How does one separate all of these colors. I have a daytime job, and do not
get sun 24/7 ?
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Create a color chart for direct comparison.
Get a very, very bright light. (I've got a Brightech LightView 2.25x Light
Magnifier)
LEGO has been making some parts for decades. Expect color variation instead of
fighting against it. I have found that buyers really appreciate advance notice
of high color variability. Create separate lots if you can or at least warn them
in the comments of your opinion of the color.
~Jen
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| | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 15:06 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Having trouble with brown and reddish brown myself right now, need a good bright
morning.
In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | As if it was not enough dealing with gray and bluish gray, we also have to contend
with the following:
1. Brown vs. Reddish Brown vs. Dar Red
2. Black vs. Dark Green
3. Color 'variability'
I've had parts sorted under artificial light and they all appear the 'same'.
However, when I look them under the sun, it's a whole spectrum. My group
of brownish 1x2 slopes turned out to be a mix of 5 shades
4. Reddish Brown
5. 'Regular' Brown
6. Slightly clearer Brown
7. Some dark red that is not completely opaque
8. Some dull brown
9. How does one separate all of these colors. I have a daytime job, and do not
get sun 24/7 ?
10. How bad is color variability?
11. Did TLG really need to produce that many colors?
12. I reckon many men have some inherent color blindness ...
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 15:10 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Stuart9 writes:
| | Having trouble with brown and reddish brown myself right now, need a good bright
morning.
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In UK??? Good luck my friend! 
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 15:15 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| If it’s not raining it’s overcast or foggy, the light has been poor here for
a few days now.
In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Stuart9 writes:
| | Having trouble with brown and reddish brown myself right now, need a good bright
morning.
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In UK??? Good luck my friend!
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| | | | | Author: | SDF_Bricks | | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 16:08 | | Subject: | Re: The many shades of Brown and Dark Red | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | As if it was not enough dealing with gray and bluish gray, we also have to contend
with the following:
1. Brown vs. Reddish Brown vs. Dar Red
2. Black vs. Dark Green
3. Color 'variability'
I've had parts sorted under artificial light and they all appear the 'same'.
However, when I look them under the sun, it's a whole spectrum. My group
of brownish 1x2 slopes turned out to be a mix of 5 shades
4. Reddish Brown
5. 'Regular' Brown
6. Slightly clearer Brown
7. Some dark red that is not completely opaque
8. Some dull brown
9. How does one separate all of these colors. I have a daytime job, and do not
get sun 24/7 ?
10. How bad is color variability?
11. Did TLG really need to produce that many colors?
12. I reckon many men have some inherent color blindness ...
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All of this, and I have not even mentioned a single word about the aqua/lavender
and crazy colors in the Friends sets. We need more women in this hobby, as, statistically/scientifically,
they have a better color perception/resolution then men. What do you mean it's
Onyx? It looks plain black to me.
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USA, Illinois
Canada, Ontario
France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
Australia, Queensland
United Kingdom, England
Netherlands, Noord-Holland
