Discussion Forum: Thread 353268

 Author: bahpstore View Messages Posted By bahpstore
 Posted: Jan 29, 2024 10:10
 Subject: PayPal refund issue
 Viewed: 135 times
 Topic: Technical Issues
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

bahpstore (20767)

Location:  USA, Virginia
Member Since Contact Type Status
Sep 20, 2016 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: BAHP Store
A few days ago, I refunded a buyer $5.00 and told him so. The result was $3.00
and I feel so bad thinking I made a mistake.

Today I did $3.00 and checked it before submit. The true refund is $2.00 in order.
 


 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jan 29, 2024 10:32
 Subject: Re: PayPal refund issue
 Viewed: 39 times
 Topic: Technical Issues
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

SylvainLS (46)

Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
Member Since Contact Type Status
Apr 25, 2014 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store Closed Store: BuyerOnly
BrickLink Discussions Moderator (?)
In Technical Issues, bahpstore writes:
  A few days ago, I refunded a buyer $5.00 and told him so. The result was $3.00
and I feel so bad thinking I made a mistake.

Today I did $3.00 and checked it before submit. The true refund is $2.00 in order.

You mean the buyer actually only receive $3 (instead of $5) on their PP account?
Or $3 were removed from your PP account?

I mean, it’s not clear (at least to me) if this is not just a UI error.
 Author: bahpstore View Messages Posted By bahpstore
 Posted: Jan 29, 2024 10:42
 Subject: Re: PayPal refund issue
 Viewed: 39 times
 Topic: Technical Issues
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

bahpstore (20767)

Location:  USA, Virginia
Member Since Contact Type Status
Sep 20, 2016 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: BAHP Store
In Technical Issues, SylvainLS writes:
  In Technical Issues, bahpstore writes:
  A few days ago, I refunded a buyer $5.00 and told him so. The result was $3.00
and I feel so bad thinking I made a mistake.

Today I did $3.00 and checked it before submit. The true refund is $2.00 in order.

You mean the buyer actually only receive $3 (instead of $5) on their PP account?
Or $3 were removed from your PP account?

I mean, it’s not clear (at least to me) if this is not just a UI error.


For the first instant, I got $2.73 deducted from PayPal, BL paid back $0.27.
I didn't check with the buyer, but I believe he got $3.00.

For the refund today, I got $1.85 deducted from PayPal, BL paid back $0.15 tax
collected. I think buyer got $2.00.

In my previous message, you see for today's refund, it supposed to get $2.78
from me and $0.22 from BL for a total of $3.00.
 


 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jan 29, 2024 11:01
 Subject: Re: PayPal refund issue
 Viewed: 35 times
 Topic: Technical Issues
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

SylvainLS (46)

Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
Member Since Contact Type Status
Apr 25, 2014 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store Closed Store: BuyerOnly
BrickLink Discussions Moderator (?)
In Technical Issues, bahpstore writes:
  […]
  I mean, it’s not clear (at least to me) if this is not just a UI error.


For the first instant, I got $2.73 deducted from PayPal, BL paid back $0.27.
I didn't check with the buyer, but I believe he got $3.00.

For the refund today, I got $1.85 deducted from PayPal, BL paid back $0.15 tax
collected. I think buyer got $2.00.

In my previous message, you see for today's refund, it supposed to get $2.78
from me and $0.22 from BL for a total of $3.00.

Okay, so not just a display error.  The site removes one or two $ on its own.
(Weird how it’s exactly $1 and $2.)
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: Jan 29, 2024 12:45
 Subject: Re: PayPal refund issue
 Viewed: 29 times
 Topic: Technical Issues
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

zorbanj (805)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
Member Since Contact Type Status
Dec 14, 2003 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: ZorbaNJ's Bricks
In Technical Issues, bahpstore writes:
  
For the first instant, I got $2.73 deducted from PayPal, BL paid back $0.27.
I didn't check with the buyer, but I believe he got $3.00.

Yes, your buyer got the $3 total, no worries there. When you refund an amount,
Bricklink refunds associated sales tax as well. This is why the $3 is split into
2 parts. BL assumes the $3 includes sales tax.

If your intention was to refund a the $3 in total then you are good. If you want
to refund the $3 PLUS sales tax then you have to adjust the refund upwards by
calculating the sales tax yourself and then playing around with the total until
it equals the $3 + the amount of sales tax you calculated. Very annoying.

Sellers have pointed out that this is confusing and that the sales tax should
be calculated by BL on the refund amount you enter rather than BL assuming the
refund total includes sales tax.
 Author: bahpstore View Messages Posted By bahpstore
 Posted: Jan 29, 2024 13:13
 Subject: Re: PayPal refund issue
 Viewed: 34 times
 Topic: Technical Issues
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

bahpstore (20767)

Location:  USA, Virginia
Member Since Contact Type Status
Sep 20, 2016 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: BAHP Store
In Technical Issues, zorbanj writes:
  In Technical Issues, bahpstore writes:
  
For the first instant, I got $2.73 deducted from PayPal, BL paid back $0.27.
I didn't check with the buyer, but I believe he got $3.00.

Yes, your buyer got the $3 total, no worries there. When you refund an amount,
Bricklink refunds associated sales tax as well. This is why the $3 is split into
2 parts. BL assumes the $3 includes sales tax.

If your intention was to refund a the $3 in total then you are good. If you want
to refund the $3 PLUS sales tax then you have to adjust the refund upwards by
calculating the sales tax yourself and then playing around with the total until
it equals the $3 + the amount of sales tax you calculated. Very annoying.

Sellers have pointed out that this is confusing and that the sales tax should
be calculated by BL on the refund amount you enter rather than BL assuming the
refund total includes sales tax.


The issue here is NOT sales tax. I planned to refund a total of $3.00, BL changed
it to $2.00 (it's for a single DBG 30383)

 
Part No: 30383  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on Top
* 
30383 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on Top
Parts: Hinge {Dark Bluish Gray}
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Jan 30, 2024 03:47
 Subject: Re: PayPal refund issue
 Viewed: 36 times
 Topic: Technical Issues
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

Stellar (3484)

Location:  Spain, Comunidad Valenciana
Member Since Contact Type Status
Sep 24, 2015 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Stellar Bricks
BrickLink Discussions Moderator (?)
In Technical Issues, bahpstore writes:
  In Technical Issues, zorbanj writes:
  In Technical Issues, bahpstore writes:
  
For the first instant, I got $2.73 deducted from PayPal, BL paid back $0.27.
I didn't check with the buyer, but I believe he got $3.00.

Yes, your buyer got the $3 total, no worries there. When you refund an amount,
Bricklink refunds associated sales tax as well. This is why the $3 is split into
2 parts. BL assumes the $3 includes sales tax.

If your intention was to refund a the $3 in total then you are good. If you want
to refund the $3 PLUS sales tax then you have to adjust the refund upwards by
calculating the sales tax yourself and then playing around with the total until
it equals the $3 + the amount of sales tax you calculated. Very annoying.

Sellers have pointed out that this is confusing and that the sales tax should
be calculated by BL on the refund amount you enter rather than BL assuming the
refund total includes sales tax.


The issue here is NOT sales tax. I planned to refund a total of $3.00, BL changed
it to $2.00 (it's for a single DBG 30383)

 
Part No: 30383  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on Top
* 
30383 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on Top
Parts: Hinge {Dark Bluish Gray}

Indeed seems there is an error somewhere, have you already opened a ticket?

If not please do so the team can take a look:
https://www.bricklink.com/v3/help/contact.page
 Author: jbroman View Messages Posted By jbroman
 Posted: Jan 31, 2024 03:06
 Subject: Re: PayPal refund issue
 Viewed: 36 times
 Topic: Technical Issues
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

jbroman (981)

Location:  Canada, British Columbia
Member Since Contact Type Status
Oct 16, 2018 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Big Boy's Bricks
In Technical Issues, bahpstore writes:

  The issue here is NOT sales tax. I planned to refund a total of $3.00, BL changed
it to $2.00 (it's for a single DBG 30383)


I tried to do a refund earlier today, and it changed my $1 to $0.
I caught it and changed it back.

It then said an error had occurred while processing. Making it seem as if it
didn't go through. I checked PayPal, and sure enough the refund went through.

It's not the first time that BL has told me an error occurred. At least this
time I checked before trying again (unlike the last time).
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Jan 31, 2024 10:42
 Subject: Re: PayPal refund issue
 Viewed: 36 times
 Topic: Technical Issues
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

1001bricks (52263)

Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
Member Since Contact Type Status
Sep 6, 2005 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: 1001bricks
In Technical Issues, jbroman writes:
  In Technical Issues, bahpstore writes:

  The issue here is NOT sales tax. I planned to refund a total of $3.00, BL changed
it to $2.00 (it's for a single DBG 30383)


I tried to do a refund earlier today, and it changed my $1 to $0.
I caught it and changed it back.

It then said an error had occurred while processing. Making it seem as if it
didn't go through. I checked PayPal, and sure enough the refund went through.

It happened to me a few times.

If you manage multiple Currencies, you MUST be sure to have enough of THIS currency
in your PayPal account before proceeding to a BrickLink refund. Otherwise it
may fail, or may work but indicate it failed!
I refunded twice a buyer with this problem.

In short: be sure you've enough of the specific currency before refunding.
 Author: Familybuild View Messages Posted By Familybuild
 Posted: Jan 29, 2024 10:39
 Subject: Re: PayPal refund issue
 Viewed: 34 times
 Topic: Technical Issues
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

Familybuild (99)

Location:  Netherlands, Zuid-Holland
Member Since Contact Type Status
Nov 16, 2022 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: FamilyBuilds
In Technical Issues, bahpstore writes:
  A few days ago, I refunded a buyer $5.00 and told him so. The result was $3.00
and I feel so bad thinking I made a mistake.

Today I did $3.00 and checked it before submit. The true refund is $2.00 in order.

Is there maby a currency conversion , thats being overlooked?

Some country's also use dollar like canadian..

Im from euro, but i can imagine this might is what happend since you checked
before submit..

Else i would be clueless
 Author: bahpstore View Messages Posted By bahpstore
 Posted: Jan 29, 2024 10:44
 Subject: Re: PayPal refund issue
 Viewed: 42 times
 Topic: Technical Issues
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

bahpstore (20767)

Location:  USA, Virginia
Member Since Contact Type Status
Sep 20, 2016 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: BAHP Store
In Technical Issues, Familybuild writes:
  In Technical Issues, bahpstore writes:
  A few days ago, I refunded a buyer $5.00 and told him so. The result was $3.00
and I feel so bad thinking I made a mistake.

Today I did $3.00 and checked it before submit. The true refund is $2.00 in order.

Is there maby a currency conversion , thats being overlooked?

Some country's also use dollar like canadian..

Im from euro, but i can imagine this might is what happend since you checked
before submit..

Else i would be clueless


It's US to US.