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| | | Author: | SDF_Bricks  | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 09:55 | | Subject: | Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 239 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I've noticed that, mostly, female minifigs in any given set are MORE expensive
than male counter-parts. This is especially true if such minifig appears in one
set only. Any specific reason for this or ... is it because this is still a male
dominated hobby and we're all enamored by cute faces?
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 10:14 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | I've noticed that, mostly, female minifigs in any given set are MORE expensive
than male counter-parts. This is especially true if such minifig appears in one
set only. Any specific reason for this or ... is it because this is still a male
dominated hobby and we're all enamored by cute faces?
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Sometimes they cost more, sometimes less. Price is usually related to supply
vs demand, not the gender. More expensive usually means a higher demand to supply
ratio. They could be more desireable because LEGO create more male figures so
it is easier to get generic male ones than female ones. Although with heads being
very cheap, male figures can usually be turned into female ones easily so long
as the torsos are not "macho" ones with muscle patterns. The other way
round is often harder due to the more specific female body printing on the torso
(cleavage and curves). The price difference could also be that the traditional
male hair pieces are very common and some of the new female ones are scarcer.
So even if the legs, torso and heads were exactly the same, the hairpiece would
make the female version more expensive.
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| | | | | | | Author: | SDF_Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 11:58 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, yorbrick writes:
| | In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | I've noticed that, mostly, female minifigs in any given set are MORE expensive
than male counter-parts. This is especially true if such minifig appears in one
set only. Any specific reason for this or ... is it because this is still a male
dominated hobby and we're all enamored by cute faces?
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Sometimes they cost more, sometimes less. Price is usually related to supply
vs demand, not the gender. More expensive usually means a higher demand to supply
ratio. They could be more desireable because LEGO create more male figures so
it is easier to get generic male ones than female ones. Although with heads being
very cheap, male figures can usually be turned into female ones easily so long
as the torsos are not "macho" ones with muscle patterns. The other way
round is often harder due to the more specific female body printing on the torso
(cleavage and curves). The price difference could also be that the traditional
male hair pieces are very common and some of the new female ones are scarcer.
So even if the legs, torso and heads were exactly the same, the hairpiece would
make the female version more expensive.
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So, in the end, what is YOUR answer? Male dominated hobby and cute females?
You gave many answers that explain supply and demand and the like. While all
of that is obvious and not new. I was asking more about the 'pull' for
such minifigs.
I have many female minifigs (Exo-Force, Agents, POC, POP) .. and in GENERAL,
females command higher prices than males.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 12:16 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | General | |
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So, in the end, what is YOUR answer? Male dominated hobby and cute females?
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No. Individuals are individuals and will have different reasons. Male domination
of the hobby will affect overall demand only if they all or most think the same
way. Personally, I don't find female minifigures cuter than male ones.
| | You gave many answers that explain supply and demand and the like. While all
of that is obvious and not new. I was asking more about the 'pull' for
such minifigs.
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Different for different people, and dependent on what they enjoy. For City I
like roughly 50:50 and as females are slightly less common than males, there
is a little more demand from me for the female ones because of distribution in
sets. I imagine many adult female City builders will be somewhat similar, despite
being in the minority in terms of gender.
For Castle, I like female peasants but not soldiers, so female civilians are
in high demand from me, although so are male civilians. Whereas for soldiers,
I wouldn't pay an increased price for a female as I'd only replace the
head with a male one anyway. Plus soldiers are common, so they tend to be priced
cheap whether male or female.
| | I have many female minifigs (Exo-Force, Agents, POC, POP) .. and in GENERAL,
females command higher prices than males.
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Which is down to supply and demand, as already said. In themes like POP and POC
it is also down to the number of sets and their price. Dastan and Jack Sparrow
occur in many sets, including the cheapest. That will normally mean they are
plentiful and so even if there is an exclusive variant in an expensive set, it
will have less demand than a one off figure in the same set as people that want
any variation of the character will go for the cheaper one.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 12:26 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | For Castle, I like female peasants but not soldiers, so female civilians are
in high demand from me, although so are male civilians. Whereas for soldiers,
I wouldn't pay an increased price for a female as I'd only replace the
head with a male one anyway. Plus soldiers are common, so they tend to be priced
cheap whether male or female.
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If I where to make castle moc I don’t think I’d have any female soldiers(back
then there was no female soldiers anyway) however I think almost all the peasants
would be female(seeing as their husband would most likely be the soldier) other
than that the only other peasants would be old folks.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 12:28 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I think demand for female is the same as male. Just there is less female figs
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 12:35 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | I think demand for female is the same as male. Just there is less female figs
to go around.
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That is why demand and supply go hand in hand. Demand doesn't really give
an indication to the value if you don't know what the supply is (see the
price for very high demand technic pins).
High demand items can sell for low prices, if supply is even higher.
Low demand items can sell for very high prices, if supply is lower.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 12:39 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | High demand items can sell for low prices, if supply is even higher.
Low demand items can sell for very high prices, if supply is lower.
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Now we've YorGPT 
Welcome!
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | High demand items can sell for low prices, if supply is even higher.
Low demand items can sell for very high prices, if supply is lower.
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Now we've YorGPT
Welcome!
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I used to think this was obvious, but from the number of posts about 'rare'
items here when really they mean 'expensive' it possibly isn't as
obvious as I thought.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 13:11 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
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however I think almost all the peasants
would be female(seeing as their husband would most likely be the soldier) other
than that the only other peasants would be old folks.
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In medieval Europe, more than 90% of the population were farmers (many of them
serfs). 5% were craftmen / artisans. Many of the rest were clergy.
The very organized Roman Empire had about 1% of its total population in the legions
(300,000 men out of 30,000,000 people). Feudal societies were way less organized
and couldn’t have sustained those numbers.
The most heavily armed feudal society I know of is medieval Japan. IIRC, at
the peak, “samurais” were about 15-20% of the population, half of them not exclusively
soldiering. They were a big drain on society, especially during peacetime.
Putting all your abled men under arms is nonsensical.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 13:32 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | True, but I was thinking of a small town within a walled fortress, during a siege.
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If it’s a town under siege, it’s not “peasants,” it’s craftmen, artisans and
merchants. The peasants are either dead in the fields or have fled to the woods.
Maybe some of them could have taken refuge in town….
Anyway even if those men participate in the defence of the town or castle, they
wouldn’t be wearing helmets or armours, and totally forget the uniforms (which
are already mostly Hollywood fancies) or tabards. Their weapons would be whatever
they could find or bows only.
But then, you can fantasize any situation… including having women (temporary)
fighters and (professional) soldiers too 
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 13:37 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | But then, you can fantasize any situation… including having women (temporary)
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You seriously mean Nubs doesn't have any???
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 13:46 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | But then, you can fantasize any situation… including having women (temporary)
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You seriously mean Nubs doesn't have any???
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 13:27 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
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however I think almost all the peasants
would be female(seeing as their husband would most likely be the soldier) other
than that the only other peasants would be old folks.
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In medieval Europe, more than 90% of the population were farmers (many of them
serfs). 5% were craftmen / artisans. Many of the rest were clergy.
The very organized Roman Empire had about 1% of its total population in the legions
(300,000 men out of 30,000,000 people). Feudal societies were way less organized
and couldn’t have sustained those numbers.
The most heavily armed feudal society I know of is medieval Japan. IIRC, at
the peak, “samurais” were about 15-20% of the population, half of them not exclusively
soldiering. They were a big drain on society, especially during peacetime.
Putting all your abled men under arms is nonsensical.
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I may be mistaken but I thought in medieval Europe during times of war pretty
much every man in the village over a certain age was drafted into the army until
the war was over so if they are at war it would make sense for pretty much every
male to be a solider even if only for a short while
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 13:59 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
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I may be mistaken but I thought in medieval Europe during times of war pretty
much every man in the village over a certain age was drafted into the army until
the war was over so if they are at war it would make sense for pretty much every
male to be a solider even if only for a short while
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Ah, 19th century romantism, Hollywood, and Fantasy books….
Peasants owed a small time in armed service every year. But not during sowing,
harvest, livestock husbandry, etc. So only a few weeks. And not all together
at once. They weren’t much trained. A lord doesn’t want his peasants to be
too much trained
There’s been some people who were better trained, like archers in England (it
takes years to make an archer, they had to start early).
In any case, you don’t take all your peasants, even if well trained, to go to
war or even for one battle: that would mean losing your lands. Even if the peasants
don’t die, the lands will lose their value if they are not tended. And you’ll
go home victorious to an empty land with empty granaries.
Lords were 100% land lords. Land was all their richess.
So they didn’t “draft” much more than 10% of the abled men even for a “great
battle for survival.”
And as I said in another post, those “drafted” men didn’t wear uniforms or tabards.
Even less expensive helmets or even more expensive mails.
So, to go back to the LEGO world and minifigures: you want many many peasant-looking
minifigures
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 14:15 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
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I may be mistaken but I thought in medieval Europe during times of war pretty
much every man in the village over a certain age was drafted into the army until
the war was over so if they are at war it would make sense for pretty much every
male to be a solider even if only for a short while
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Ah, 19th century romantism, Hollywood, and Fantasy books….
Peasants owed a small time in armed service every year. But not during sowing,
harvest, livestock husbandry, etc. So only a few weeks. And not all together
at once. They weren’t much trained. A lord doesn’t want his peasants to be
too much trained
There’s been some people who were better trained, like archers in England (it
takes years to make an archer, they had to start early).
In any case, you don’t take all your peasants, even if well trained, to go to
war or even for one battle: that would mean losing your lands. Even if the peasants
don’t die, the lands will lose their value if they are not tended. And you’ll
go home victorious to an empty land with empty granaries.
Lords were 100% land lords. Land was all their richess.
So they didn’t “draft” much more than 10% of the abled men even for a “great
battle for survival.”
And as I said in another post, those “drafted” men didn’t wear uniforms or tabards.
Even less expensive helmets or even more expensive mails.
So, to go back to the LEGO world and minifigures: you want many many peasant-looking
minifigures
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Maybe in this Lego town it’s required for all the guys to be soldiers for life
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 12:24 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
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So, in the end, what is YOUR answer? Male dominated hobby and cute females?
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You seem very focused on that explanation.
| | You gave many answers that explain supply and demand and the like. While all
of that is obvious and not new. I was asking more about the 'pull' for
such minifigs.
I have many female minifigs (Exo-Force, Agents, POC, POP) .. and in GENERAL,
females command higher prices than males.
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But have you done the stats to know if, in GENERAL, female minifigures were rarer
and Yorbrick’s offer and demand explanation was sufficient?
There’s no need to speculate on feelings of other people when facts and simple
mechanisms explain the situation.
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| | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 11:20 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | I've noticed that, mostly, female minifigs in any given set are MORE expensive
than male counter-parts. This is especially true if such minifig appears in one
set only. Any specific reason for this or ... is it because this is still a male
dominated hobby and we're all enamored by cute faces?
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I mean... yes, I sure am!
Then it's a question of choices and perception of beauty etc.
The other point is they're often less represented, so it may increase their
value due to a relative rarity.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Carissamiss | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 11:38 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I think this is correct; if you look at the Friends or Disney themes in the same
way, male mini-doll minifigs are much more expensive than the females. They’re
less represented in those lines and so it increases their value.
In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | I've noticed that, mostly, female minifigs in any given set are MORE expensive
than male counter-parts. This is especially true if such minifig appears in one
set only. Any specific reason for this or ... is it because this is still a male
dominated hobby and we're all enamored by cute faces?
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The other point is they're often less represented, so it may increase their
value due to a relative rarity.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 12:24 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Carissamiss writes:
| | I think this is correct; if you look at the Friends or Disney themes in the same
way, male mini-doll minifigs are much more expensive than the females. They’re
less represented in those lines and so it increases their value.
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This is down to core character vs non-core. There are more expensive females
in Friends, just as there are more expensive males. That is down to scarcity
rather than gender. The core characters (at least in the original Friends) were
all female and core characters get repeated a lot and so are cheap. So on average,
the female ones are cheaper. But that is not because they are female, it is because
the ones that are heavily repeated as core characters are female.
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| | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 12:44 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | I've noticed that, mostly, female minifigs in any given set are MORE expensive
than male counter-parts. This is especially true if such minifig appears in one
set only. Any specific reason for this or ... is it because this is still a male
dominated hobby and we're all enamored by cute faces?
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nope..
you all have fun with this one.. i'll get a ban..
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| | | | | | | Author: | SDF_Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 13:59 | | Subject: | Re: Female minifigs more expensive | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | I've noticed that, mostly, female minifigs in any given set are MORE expensive
than male counter-parts. This is especially true if such minifig appears in one
set only. Any specific reason for this or ... is it because this is still a male
dominated hobby and we're all enamored by cute faces?
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nope..
you all have fun with this one.. i'll get a ban..
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This started as a 'fun' conversation ... and then we all learned about
medieval european armies and the japanese samurai. Beautiful, I had never anticipated
this discussion to pull in such aspects, but such is the beauty of 'plant
a seed/idea' .. and 'see how it evolves.
So, I do not recall seeing any samurai in Lego. Any reason why?
Yes, I know about Ninjago, but that theme is for the young kids. (no issue with
that)
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
Aaa yes the original ninjago. 
Much better.
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So, I do not recall seeing any samurai in Lego. Any reason why?
Yes, I know about Ninjago, but that theme is for the young kids. (no issue with
that)
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Both male and female ...
Male more expensive than female in this case.
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So, I do not recall seeing any samurai in Lego. Any reason why?
Yes, I know about Ninjago, but that theme is for the young kids. (no issue with
that)
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Both male and female ...
Male more expensive than female in this case.
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It's the extra "weapon" the male comes with, no doubt
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