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 Author: BrickSelect View Messages Posted By BrickSelect
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I received this message about a $5 head in my store, and am wondering what to
do, it appears the buyer has over 100 positive feedback and no negative or neutral
feedback. The dropping it off is no problem, but I just worry about he scames
and am looking for insight. The message is the following:
“ Is there any wear or damage?
If no issues, would you accept my prepaid FedEx label for it. Can be dropped
at any Walgreens if no FedEx. I’ve had no issues using them on here.”
 Author: BrickSelect View Messages Posted By BrickSelect
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Edit: I’m worried about getting scammed
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Help, BrickSelect writes:
  Edit: I’m worried about getting scammed

Scammed how?
 Author: BrickSelect View Messages Posted By BrickSelect
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Edit: I’m worried about getting scammed
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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Nubs_Select (3756)

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I wouldn’t be worried per say. I’ve been offered that several times in the past
and have refused it and the order went thru fine
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
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In Help, BrickSelect writes:
  I received this message about a $5 head in my store, and am wondering what to
do, it appears the buyer has over 100 positive feedback and no negative or neutral
feedback. The dropping it off is no problem, but I just worry about he scames
and am looking for insight. The message is the following:
“ Is there any wear or damage?
If no issues, would you accept my prepaid FedEx label for it. Can be dropped
at any Walgreens if no FedEx. I’ve had no issues using them on here.”

Scammed for $5? I don't see how for something so small. Some people have
access to discounted rates for FedEx (employees, business accounts, etc) so they
might naturally ask to use their perk instead of paying you for postage.

~Jen
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
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I very much doubt you would be scammed over $5 but here are 2 tips:


1. Send pics of the head. Many sellers won't send pics for such a low cost
item, up to you.

2. The address on the label has to match the buyer's PayPal address. If not,
the buyer can open an "item not received" case against you and you will
lose automatically.



In Help, BrickSelect writes:
  I received this message about a $5 head in my store, and am wondering what to
do, it appears the buyer has over 100 positive feedback and no negative or neutral
feedback. The dropping it off is no problem, but I just worry about he scames
and am looking for insight. The message is the following:
“ Is there any wear or damage?
If no issues, would you accept my prepaid FedEx label for it. Can be dropped
at any Walgreens if no FedEx. I’ve had no issues using them on here.”
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Dec 5, 2023 17:14
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In Help, BrickSelect writes:
  I received this message about a $5 head in my store, and am wondering what to
do, it appears the buyer has over 100 positive feedback and no negative or neutral
feedback. The dropping it off is no problem, but I just worry about he scames
and am looking for insight. The message is the following:
“ Is there any wear or damage?
If no issues, would you accept my prepaid FedEx label for it. Can be dropped
at any Walgreens if no FedEx. I’ve had no issues using them on here.”

A prepaid label will have the destination address that the buyer supplies. If
that doesn't match to what PayPal supplies, then you have a problem.

Nita Rae
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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  If that doesn't match to what PayPal supplies, then you have a problem.

Sounds weird to me - it's not a problem, it's just a different address.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Help, 1001bricks writes:
  
  If that doesn't match to what PayPal supplies, then you have a problem.

Sounds weird to me - it's not a problem, it's just a different address.

The issue is that one wouldn't be covered by PayPal seller protection if
one sent to a different address
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Help, peregrinator writes:
  In Help, 1001bricks writes:
  
  If that doesn't match to what PayPal supplies, then you have a problem.

Sounds weird to me - it's not a problem, it's just a different address.

The issue is that one wouldn't be covered by PayPal seller protection if
one sent to a different address

LOL PayPal Seller protection!?*

Ah I laughed so much, thank you!



*PS: it doesn't exists, it's a myth.
Mainly.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Help, 1001bricks writes:
  In Help, peregrinator writes:
  In Help, 1001bricks writes:
  
  If that doesn't match to what PayPal supplies, then you have a problem.

Sounds weird to me - it's not a problem, it's just a different address.

The issue is that one wouldn't be covered by PayPal seller protection if
one sent to a different address

LOL PayPal Seller protection!?*

Ah I laughed so much, thank you!



*PS: it doesn't exists, it's a myth.
Mainly.

I'm of the same mind - in fact I don't think I've ever even looked
at a PayPal address unless the BL address looked "off". I think it is
best to send to the address used by the buyer when placing the order.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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+1 ive probably only 5-10 times in my life actually looked at the Paypal address
and it was just for peace of mind for high $ orders but even then I've stopped
doing that also
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Help, Nubs_Select writes:
  +1 ive probably only 5-10 times in my life actually looked at the Paypal address
and it was just for peace of mind for high $ orders but even then I've stopped
doing that also

Same as you, both
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
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I do the opposite and only use the PayPal address. If you ship to another address
and the buyer opens a case you instantly lose.

In Help, Nubs_Select writes:
  +1 ive probably only 5-10 times in my life actually looked at the Paypal address
and it was just for peace of mind for high $ orders but even then I've stopped
doing that also
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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I mean after about 10k shipments across sites I’ve had exactly 1 case opened
against me which I won so it’s not really much of a concern
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In Help, Nubs_Select writes:
  I mean after about 10k shipments across sites I’ve had exactly 1 case opened
against me which I won so it’s not really much of a concern

Same here. Out of all the orders we have received only a couple went bad and
we just went ahead and approved the refund for missing packages.

Because our postage software uses PayPal's addresses we use those but we
always do a quick compare to make sure they are the same but not not because
about worrying about scams, we just want to make sue the order is shipped to
where the customer wants it to be shipped to. When the addresses differ we just
contact the buyer and ask which address they want the order shipped to. This
has happened just a handful of times and when we shipped it to a different address
then what is on PayPal it has never caused any problems or chargebacks.

Jim
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In Help, zorbanj writes:
  I do the opposite and only use the PayPal address. If you ship to another address
and the buyer opens a case you instantly lose.

+1
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In Help, peregrinator writes:
  In Help, 1001bricks writes:
  In Help, peregrinator writes:
  In Help, 1001bricks writes:
  
  If that doesn't match to what PayPal supplies, then you have a problem.

Sounds weird to me - it's not a problem, it's just a different address.

The issue is that one wouldn't be covered by PayPal seller protection if
one sent to a different address

LOL PayPal Seller protection!?*

Ah I laughed so much, thank you!



*PS: it doesn't exists, it's a myth.
Mainly.

I'm of the same mind - in fact I don't think I've ever even looked
at a PayPal address unless the BL address looked "off". I think it is
best to send to the address used by the buyer when placing the order.

Since your orders on bricklink are paid via PayPal onsite, you don't need
to check anything.
The address that appears on the PayPal transaction is automatically copied from
the address the buyer uses (that you can only see on the order's page) and
so PayPal entirely ignores the primary address on buyer on PayPal.
There is absolutely no way these two addresses can be different, unless if the
buyer pays via PayPal offsite.
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If you ship to an address other than the PayPal address you instantly lose if
a buyer opens a case against you. Why take a chance by using another address?

In Help, 1001bricks writes:
  In Help, peregrinator writes:
  In Help, 1001bricks writes:
  
  If that doesn't match to what PayPal supplies, then you have a problem.

Sounds weird to me - it's not a problem, it's just a different address.

The issue is that one wouldn't be covered by PayPal seller protection if
one sent to a different address

LOL PayPal Seller protection!?*

Ah I laughed so much, thank you!



*PS: it doesn't exists, it's a myth.
Mainly.
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In Help, zorbanj writes:
  If you ship to an address other than the PayPal address you instantly lose if
a buyer opens a case against you. Why take a chance by using another address?
 
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In Help, 1001bricks writes:
  In Help, peregrinator writes:
  In Help, 1001bricks writes:
  
  If that doesn't match to what PayPal supplies, then you have a problem.

Sounds weird to me - it's not a problem, it's just a different address.

The issue is that one wouldn't be covered by PayPal seller protection if
one sent to a different address

LOL PayPal Seller protection!?*

Ah I laughed so much, thank you!



*PS: it doesn't exists, it's a myth.
Mainly.

It does exist, at least if you follow their rules to the letter. I had a buyer
open a case against me a couple of weeks ago, they also started a NSS. This was
after they had received a package with tracking. I sent the tracking number to
paypal and they sided with me. I also emailed the buyer asking why they had done
a NSS and they claimed they got mixed up and entered the wrong order number.
Whether it was a genuine error on the buyer's side or not, PayPal resolved
the false claim quicker than the buyer.
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Here is what Paypal states about prepaid label:

****************************
Prepaid shipping label scam

The buyer asks you to use a prepaid shipping label provided by them, but the
shipping labels could’ve been purchased with a stolen credit card. Or they may
attempt to send the package to another country, PO Box, or an untraceable location.
Tips to help avoid a prepaid shipping label scam: Don’t accept shipping labels
and only ship to the address on the transaction. This also helps ensure that
you remain covered under the PayPal Seller Protection policy on eligible transactions.

****************************

There is only Paypal seller protection if you ship to the buyer's Paypal
address. Your buyer might be a reseller and sending you a label with his customer's
address. It might be of less concern for a $5 purchase.

You may read more here:

https://www.paypal.com/us/brc/article/common-ecommerce-scams-to-avoid


In Help, BrickSelect writes:
  I received this message about a $5 head in my store, and am wondering what to
do, it appears the buyer has over 100 positive feedback and no negative or neutral
feedback. The dropping it off is no problem, but I just worry about he scames
and am looking for insight. The message is the following:
“ Is there any wear or damage?
If no issues, would you accept my prepaid FedEx label for it. Can be dropped
at any Walgreens if no FedEx. I’ve had no issues using them on here.”
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In Help, BrickSelect writes:
  I received this message about a $5 head in my store, and am wondering what to
do, it appears the buyer has over 100 positive feedback and no negative or neutral
feedback. The dropping it off is no problem, but I just worry about he scames
and am looking for insight. The message is the following:
“ Is there any wear or damage?
If no issues, would you accept my prepaid FedEx label for it. Can be dropped
at any Walgreens if no FedEx. I’ve had no issues using them on here.”

I ordered twice from a huge store in Canada:
Canada First bricks

I politely requested them if they are ok I create and buy the shipping label
and gave these reasons:
- I want to spend more with my account of CanadaPost so that I can reach a higher
discount rate (up $2500 per year is dicount level 1, up to $5000 is dicount level
2)
- It will be cheaper because you also have to charge me 13% extra for taxes.

and at the end, I mentioned i do understand if they prefer not to accept this,
and I will still pay for the order.

For similar reasons, I created and sent labels to sellers on Ebay,... and a few
accepted.
For sellers in the USA, I prefer to create my own label because they don't
use a cheap shipping label. So for small orders, it can cost me $15 otherwise
they might want to charge me $30-40.

It is always easy and quick to think: this is scam, that is scam,...
and if you google anything like "the buyer wants... is this a scam?",
you find some links that it is.

Look at the profile of buyer and the way he communicates and use your common
sense.
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In Help, BrickSelect writes:



  a $5 head



I don't think business is for you. My goodness




Yes taking a label from someone else if fine. Fedex is a common one due to the
discounts.



Crystal