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 Author: Fingolfin_II View Messages Posted By Fingolfin_II
 Posted: Jul 11, 2023 15:03
 Subject: Possebility of an item not being Lego brand
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Fingolfin_II (389)

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Hi there,

I need some help / advice.

I was browsing bricklink for a seller who sells 2 small identical lego pieces
that are very rare in the color i need them and they were only released in 1
set that has been gone for over 15 years. I lost them and want to complete the
set again.

I found them with a seller who has 90 of them, They came with 3 including the
spare in the set. This seller does not sell any other distinguishable items that
came with this set, Including the minifigures etc so i do not think this seller
parted out 30 of this now 300 usd set
The feedback of this seller is 99+ and more then 200 orders

How big is the chance the item on stock is not genuine Lego? Do rare original
parts turn up after years as left overs ?
Do all lego parts have a way of identifying them as the real thing?
I assume the seller has no bad intentions and if the part is no original lego
is not aware of this

I understand that me not mentioning the part makes it a bit vague but if i am
wrong i do not want the seller to feel offended
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Jul 11, 2023 15:22
 Subject: Re: Possebility of an item not being Lego brand
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Nubs_Select (3773)

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In General, Fingolfin_II writes:
  Hi there,

I need some help / advice.

I was browsing bricklink for a seller who sells 2 small identical lego pieces
that are very rare in the color i need them and they were only released in 1
set that has been gone for over 15 years. I lost them and want to complete the
set again.

I found them with a seller who has 90 of them, They came with 3 including the
spare in the set. This seller does not sell any other distinguishable items that
came with this set, Including the minifigures etc so i do not think this seller
parted out 30 of this now 300 usd set
The feedback of this seller is 99+ and more then 200 orders

How big is the chance the item on stock is not genuine Lego? Do rare original
parts turn up after years as left overs ?
Do all lego parts have a way of identifying them as the real thing?
I assume the seller has no bad intentions and if the part is no original lego
is not aware of this

I understand that me not mentioning the part makes it a bit vague but if i am
wrong i do not want the seller to feel offended

more often then not its real lego. there are many sources for older parts such
as directly from lego and similar or the seller may have sold all of the other
parts in the past but usually its all real
 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
 Posted: Jul 11, 2023 15:28
 Subject: Re: Possebility of an item not being Lego brand
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macebobo (2437)

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In General, Fingolfin_II writes:

  How big is the chance the item on stock is not genuine Lego?

Very small chance. Listings are "policed" by the community, a bad actor
would not last long.

  Do rare original parts turn up after years as left overs?

Yes, it happens, I have New Old Stock (NOS) parts in my store.

  Do all lego parts have a way of identifying them as the real thing?

Somewhat, they have a similar feel, they MAY be marked with the Lego logo (but
this is not always true even on genuine parts), and the quality (color match,
fit, etc.)

  I assume the seller has no bad intentions and if the part is no original lego
is not aware of this

That would be a safe presumption.

  I understand that me not mentioning the part makes it a bit vague but if i am
wrong i do not want the seller to feel offended

I would not be offended but would welcome questioning as I want my customers
to be happy with their purchase.

Good luck,
John
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jul 11, 2023 15:28
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In General, Fingolfin_II writes:
  Hi there,
[…]
I understand that me not mentioning the part makes it a bit vague but if i am
wrong i do not want the seller to feel offended

Hi,

Yes, indeed, it’s hard to say without knowing which part it’s about and if you
tell us the part, and as it’s rare, then that’s like saying who the seller is….

One possibility that comes to mind is that it’s not the part that’s rare but
the combination of part and colour (for instance, 1x1 round plate in Trans-Neon
Yellow) and the seller is overly optimistic in thinking they found a stash of
rare parts and it’s actually another colour (maybe a batch of Trans-Yellow that
looks different from the other Tr-Y they have).

Except for recent rumours yet to be confirmed, and the problem with “night-shift”
transparent parts (made in a LEGO factory but not legitimate), parts with a LEGO
logo are LEGO.
The reverse is not true: there’s genuine LEGO parts without logo.
Also, “custom” decors may be applied on genuine LEGO parts.  The difference in
printing is generally noticeable.
 Author: PlanetEarthToys View Messages Posted By PlanetEarthToys
 Posted: Jul 11, 2023 19:01
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PlanetEarthToys (117)

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In General, Fingolfin_II writes:
  Hi there,

I need some help / advice.

I was browsing bricklink for a seller who sells 2 small identical lego pieces
that are very rare in the color i need them and they were only released in 1
set that has been gone for over 15 years. I lost them and want to complete the
set again.

I found them with a seller who has 90 of them, They came with 3 including the
spare in the set. This seller does not sell any other distinguishable items that
came with this set, Including the minifigures etc so i do not think this seller
parted out 30 of this now 300 usd set
The feedback of this seller is 99+ and more then 200 orders

How big is the chance the item on stock is not genuine Lego? Do rare original
parts turn up after years as left overs ?
Do all lego parts have a way of identifying them as the real thing?
I assume the seller has no bad intentions and if the part is no original lego
is not aware of this

I understand that me not mentioning the part makes it a bit vague but if i am
wrong i do not want the seller to feel offended.

could be some Lego store owner died & his distant relatives ( who had no clue
he had a Lego sstore ) just sold off his stuff at a yard sale in box lots.

having 1 or 100 single parts from a set does not entail the seller bought complete
sets. i buy 20 pound bulk lots & sort them. random bricks tossed in a bin.
it's fun.

i run into tons of rare parts, doubt any of them are significantly from the same
sets on any noticeable scale. but that doesn't not mean they are fake parts
just because accompanying parts from those sets aren't being sold as well.

but, yeah, i would say keep seller/ item anonymous... if your wrong, offending
them isn't going to be your problem, it wold be the Defamation on your part
you would need to focus on..
 Author: starbeanie View Messages Posted By starbeanie
 Posted: Jul 11, 2023 19:23
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I have 860 [p=3068bpb0033] listed that were in 1 set in 1988. Bought them from
an ex-employee 20 years after he left the company. He had bags of odd stuff like
this.

Starbeanie


In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
  In General, Fingolfin_II writes:
  Hi there,

I need some help / advice.

I was browsing bricklink for a seller who sells 2 small identical lego pieces
that are very rare in the color i need them and they were only released in 1
set that has been gone for over 15 years. I lost them and want to complete the
set again.

I found them with a seller who has 90 of them, They came with 3 including the
spare in the set. This seller does not sell any other distinguishable items that
came with this set, Including the minifigures etc so i do not think this seller
parted out 30 of this now 300 usd set
The feedback of this seller is 99+ and more then 200 orders

How big is the chance the item on stock is not genuine Lego? Do rare original
parts turn up after years as left overs ?
Do all lego parts have a way of identifying them as the real thing?
I assume the seller has no bad intentions and if the part is no original lego
is not aware of this

I understand that me not mentioning the part makes it a bit vague but if i am
wrong i do not want the seller to feel offended.

could be some Lego store owner died & his distant relatives ( who had no clue
he had a Lego sstore ) just sold off his stuff at a yard sale in box lots.

having 1 or 100 single parts from a set does not entail the seller bought complete
sets. i buy 20 pound bulk lots & sort them. random bricks tossed in a bin.
it's fun.

i run into tons of rare parts, doubt any of them are significantly from the same
sets on any noticeable scale. but that doesn't not mean they are fake parts
just because accompanying parts from those sets aren't being sold as well.

but, yeah, i would say keep seller/ item anonymous... if your wrong, offending
them isn't going to be your problem, it wold be the Defamation on your part
you would need to focus on..
 Author: PlanetEarthToys View Messages Posted By PlanetEarthToys
 Posted: Jul 11, 2023 21:16
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In General, starbeanie writes:
  I have 860 [p=3068bpb0033] listed that were in 1 set in 1988. Bought them from
an ex-employee 20 years after he left the company. He had bags of odd stuff like
this.

Starbeanie


In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
  In General, Fingolfin_II writes:
  Hi there,

I need some help / advice.

I was browsing bricklink for a seller who sells 2 small identical lego pieces
that are very rare in the color i need them and they were only released in 1
set that has been gone for over 15 years. I lost them and want to complete the
set again.

I found them with a seller who has 90 of them, They came with 3 including the
spare in the set. This seller does not sell any other distinguishable items that
came with this set, Including the minifigures etc so i do not think this seller
parted out 30 of this now 300 usd set
The feedback of this seller is 99+ and more then 200 orders

How big is the chance the item on stock is not genuine Lego? Do rare original
parts turn up after years as left overs ?
Do all lego parts have a way of identifying them as the real thing?
I assume the seller has no bad intentions and if the part is no original lego
is not aware of this

I understand that me not mentioning the part makes it a bit vague but if i am
wrong i do not want the seller to feel offended.

could be some Lego store owner died & his distant relatives ( who had no clue
he had a Lego sstore ) just sold off his stuff at a yard sale in box lots.

having 1 or 100 single parts from a set does not entail the seller bought complete
sets. i buy 20 pound bulk lots & sort them. random bricks tossed in a bin.
it's fun.

i run into tons of rare parts, doubt any of them are significantly from the same
sets on any noticeable scale. but that doesn't not mean they are fake parts
just because accompanying parts from those sets aren't being sold as well.

but, yeah, i would say keep seller/ item anonymous... if your wrong, offending
them isn't going to be your problem, it wold be the Defamation on your part
you would need to focus on..

yeah, any production line worker has likely has boxes of overstock & test samples
( or just grabbing a handful...) of whatever they are making & supplies used
to make those items.

as a kid, dad used to make insulation for Dow Chemical, we had boxes full of
tape & gloves & our house was fully insulated..
just sayin'...