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| | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 20:44 | Subject: | Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 313 times | Topic: | General | |
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| Heated topic about Spam & Zero Feedback Member Forum Access via another thread.
maybe a simple Poll would be something needed to see what the Community thinks.
Poll:
Which option would you prefer as a Spamming Solution
A? nothing, Raw Spam is Delicious!
B) require a Pay-To-Play Positive Feedback, similar to the Seller Requirement
C) require new users to be Verified by some Official Secondary means w/ Bricklink.
D) ban Zero Feedback Members from posting URL Links in the Forum.
E) allow Zero Feedback Members Limited Forum Access that is a Moderator Only
visiblie / Replies Enabled post
being fair, let's say leave poll open for 1 week...
to give occational forum readers a chance to participate, if they want too.
please just give a simple letter vote, no harrassing others for their vote. we
are a Civilized Lego Society.
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| | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 20:50 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| Heated topic about Spam & Zero Feedback Member Forum Access via another thread.
maybe a simple Poll would be something needed to see what the Community thinks.
Poll:
Which option would you prefer as a Spamming Solution
A? nothing, Raw Spam is Delicious!
B) require a Pay-To-Play Positive Feedback, similar to the Seller Requirement
C) require new users to be Verified by some Official Secondary means w/ Bricklink.
D) ban Zero Feedback Members from posting URL Links in the Forum.
E) allow Zero Feedback Members Limited Forum Access that is a Moderator Only
visiblie / Replies Enabled post
being fair, let's say leave poll open for 1 week...
to give occational forum readers a chance to participate, if they want too.
please just give a simple letter vote, no harrassing others for their vote. we
are a Civilized Lego Society.
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option B
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| | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 20:53 | Subject: | (Cancelled) | Viewed: | 50 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | Author: | sasquatch_eater | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 21:05 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 46 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| Heated topic about Spam & Zero Feedback Member Forum Access via another thread.
maybe a simple Poll would be something needed to see what the Community thinks.
Poll:
Which option would you prefer as a Spamming Solution
A? nothing, Raw Spam is Delicious!
B) require a Pay-To-Play Positive Feedback, similar to the Seller Requirement
C) require new users to be Verified by some Official Secondary means w/ Bricklink.
D) ban Zero Feedback Members from posting URL Links in the Forum.
E) allow Zero Feedback Members Limited Forum Access that is a Moderator Only
visiblie / Replies Enabled post
being fair, let's say leave poll open for 1 week...
to give occational forum readers a chance to participate, if they want too.
please just give a simple letter vote, no harrassing others for their vote. we
are a Civilized Lego Society.
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D
--Claude
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| | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 21:09 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | General | |
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| Option D but maybe with some exceptions for approved sites (don't know how
i missed that option when i first posted i read thru the list like 5 times )
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| | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 22:21 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| Option D but maybe with some exceptions for approved sites (don't know how
i missed that option when i first posted i read thru the list like 5 times )
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Approved sites, like...
https://www.rebrickable.com/set=BUY_PILLS_CHEAP_ON_LINE_AT_PILLS_DOT_COM_99$_ONLY_BUY_NOW
Now you need also to analyze the URL, because chances are that https://www.rebrickable.com/
would be authorized.
Maybe then simply analyze the whole post?
Or use a Captcha?
But note that many SPAMs are posted by humans, they're just mechanical beings
paid 1$ per 500 posts
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| | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 22:25 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
URL is part of the post so I'm slowly getting there
do those actually work tho? i mean presumably they do but who knows
| But note that many SPAMs are posted by humans, they're just mechanical beings
paid 1$ per 500 posts
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indeed. ultimately spam cant be fully avoided but that's life and its all
good
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 22:39 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | URL is part of the post so I'm slowly getting there
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Yey! You're the best
| do those actually work tho? i mean presumably they do but who knows
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They do, the good ones - as they don't only analyze your reply, they know
even before you reply if you're legit or not
Problem is, with AIs Captchas will be obsolete relatively soon.
On the other hand, AIs will be good at detecting SPAM in posts
| indeed. ultimately spam cant be fully avoided but that's life and its all
good
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If you don't have any interaction with people, you're safer.
But you can't desire this.
Apart some fools, researchers, youngsters for fun, or at a given moment in life
300 days on an island:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leHb2hdCLqo
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 22:48 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | If you don't have any interaction with people, you're safer.
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Sounds like I'm safe then!
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | ghyde | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 15:24 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, 1001bricks writes:
URL is part of the post so I'm slowly getting there
do those actually work tho? i mean presumably they do but who knows
| But note that many SPAMs are posted by humans, they're just mechanical beings
paid 1$ per 500 posts
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indeed. ultimately spam cant be fully avoided but that's life and its all
good
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I don't know if they work but one image selection captcha asked me to fill
in 3 ships but there were only 2 visible on the captcha presented. I don't
have a crystal ball, so these captcha verification sites really need to present
the option of "issue with captcha" and feedback to and from them so the
legitimate people can figure out what is wrong and where.
Captchas only work if they are properly designed, if not properly designed, it
reflects badly on the captcha site.
Just my opinion of a very recent captcha I had to try and decode. I ended up
trying a second captcha.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 15:47 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, ghyde writes:
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I don't know if they work but one image selection captcha asked me to fill
in 3 ships but there were only 2 visible on the captcha presented. I don't
have a crystal ball, so these captcha verification sites really need to present
the option of "issue with captcha" and feedback to and from them so the
legitimate people can figure out what is wrong and where.
Captchas only work if they are properly designed, if not properly designed, it
reflects badly on the captcha site.
Just my opinion of a very recent captcha I had to try and decode. I ended up
trying a second captcha.
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Captchas are always vague, incomprehensible, or, as in your example, not applicable.
(Not even talking about blurry images and/or accessibility problems.)
Give wrong answers and you’ll pass anyway. Or if you give only part of the answer
(they ask for 3, you give 1). You may fail the first time but almost always
pass the second.
Also, they are used to train image recognition systems (“AI”). Are you getting
paid to help them?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ghyde | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 15:53 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| In General, ghyde writes:
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I don't know if they work but one image selection captcha asked me to fill
in 3 ships but there were only 2 visible on the captcha presented. I don't
have a crystal ball, so these captcha verification sites really need to present
the option of "issue with captcha" and feedback to and from them so the
legitimate people can figure out what is wrong and where.
Captchas only work if they are properly designed, if not properly designed, it
reflects badly on the captcha site.
Just my opinion of a very recent captcha I had to try and decode. I ended up
trying a second captcha.
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Captchas are always vague, incomprehensible, or, as in your example, not applicable.
(Not even talking about blurry images and/or accessibility problems.)
Give wrong answers and you’ll pass anyway. Or if you give only part of the answer
(they ask for 3, you give 1). You may fail the first time but almost always
pass the second.
Also, they are used to train image recognition systems (“AI”). Are you getting
paid to help them?
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No, just genuinely interested in why they expect us to know it all.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 21:33 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | Captchas are always vague, incomprehensible, or, as in your example, not applicable.
(Not even talking about blurry images and/or accessibility problems.)
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Hey, Captchas don't care about your reply.
I mean, a bad reply is (often, not always) a bad reply.
But a good one doesn't depend your reply.
Just make this (free) cool test:
https://amiunique.org
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There a *thousands* of criteria that help to see if it's an user PC or a
bot.
Plus of course the time you took to click, the speed and acceleration of your
mouse, but also the referer site, etc.
PS: *** I confirm, this PC is unique for years
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 21:40 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | PS: *** I confirm, this PC is unique for years
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Just did it again
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 21:43 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 31 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | PS: *** I confirm, this PC is unique for years
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Just did it again
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i had that result also so I'm assuming that's good since you also have
it
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 21:51 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 34 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | PS: *** I confirm, this PC is unique for years
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Just did it again
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i had that result also so I'm assuming that's good since you also have
it
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That's bad news for me tonight - I'm as unique as you are
But the idea is that chances are you're human, NubsGPT.
I'm telling you!
For instance, I've 280 installed fonts on this PC, it's not typical of
a bot PC, etc.
This is shown with amiunique.
As you can see, a Captcha can also measure those things *before* you even start
to answer to see what your percent match being a human - they don't need
your reply
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 21:56 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 33 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | But the idea is that chances are you're human, NubsGPT.
I'm telling you!
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wheres you proof!
| For instance, I've 280 installed fonts on this PC, it's not typical of
a bot PC, etc.
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What if someone just made a bot that installed 280 fonts plus all of the other
things
| As you can see, a Captcha can also measure those things *before* you even start
to answer to see what your percent match being a human - they don't need
your reply
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Technology is amazing indeed!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 22:08 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | What if someone just made a bot that installed 280 fonts plus all of the other
things
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The problem is probabilities multiply. Yes, one can install those 280 *exact*
fonts, but he won't change the 42 specific settings of my browser, and use
the exact version of my DX renderer, and... That makes you mathematically unique.
| | As you can see, a Captcha can also measure those things *before* you even start
to answer to see what your percent match being a human - they don't need
your reply
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Technology is amazing indeed!
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Yes, think at it next time you use a Private tab or window in your browser, and
don't accept any cookie thinking you're safe.
They don't know you, but they may know *you* are back, they deduct your age,
ethnie, eduction and wealth by various criteria on what you're reading, watching
at, listening to, and boom: they've got all the stats they need (to use or
sell).
And don't even think at a VPN, it's even worse, but it's another
story
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 22:11 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 33 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | What if someone just made a bot that installed 280 fonts plus all of the other
things
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The problem is probabilities multiply. Yes, one can install those 280 *exact*
fonts, but he won't change the 42 specific settings of my browser, and use
the exact version of my DX renderer, and... That makes you mathematically unique.
| | As you can see, a Captcha can also measure those things *before* you even start
to answer to see what your percent match being a human - they don't need
your reply
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Technology is amazing indeed!
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Yes, think at it next time you use a Private tab or window in your browser, and
don't accept any cookie thinking you're safe.
They don't know you, but they may know *you* are back, they deduct your age,
ethnie, eduction and wealth by various criteria on what you're reading, watching
at, listening to, and boom: they've got all the stats they need (to use or
sell).
And don't even think at a VPN, it's even worse, but it's another
story
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i just make sure to accept all the cookies so the only workaround
seems to be just use a new browser without signing it that's a fresh install
if you want to avoid cookies
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 22:22 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 34 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | i just make sure to accept all the cookies
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Me thinks you're even 'uniquer' than me
| so the only workaround seems to be just use a new browser without signing it that's a fresh install if you want to avoid cookies
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Firefox, add-on "I don't care about cookies", that's it, never
more any question asked.
For some sites, like BrickLink or PayPal, it's safer to disable it for this
specific site (one click).
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 22:37 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 58 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | i just make sure to accept all the cookies
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Me thinks you're even 'uniquer' than me
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| | so the only workaround seems to be just use a new browser without signing it that's a fresh install if you want to avoid cookies
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Firefox, add-on "I don't care about cookies", that's it, never
more any question asked.
For some sites, like BrickLink or PayPal, it's safer to disable it for this
specific site (one click).
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but that would take all the fun out of it!
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| | | | Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 21:47 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 50 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
Posts heuristics (Bayesian style), captcha for new users, or why not IP ban (48
hours?) in case of moderated SPAM could be tools to use.
Don't make buyers have to place an order to be allowed post
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| | | | | | Author: | here4bricks614 | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 22:21 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
Posts heuristics (Bayesian style), captcha for new users, or why not IP ban (48
hours?) in case of moderated SPAM could be tools to use.
Don't make buyers have to place an order to be allowed post
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I like one of these. Option F, maybe?
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| | | | | | | | Author: | WoutR | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 03:35 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 43 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, here4bricks614 writes:
| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
Posts heuristics (Bayesian style), captcha for new users, or why not IP ban (48
hours?) in case of moderated SPAM could be tools to use.
Don't make buyers have to place an order to be allowed post
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I like one of these. Option F, maybe?
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I agree. None of the above.
F) Make it easier to report spam.
When I report spam, I now have to change my view to see the message ID, go to
the problem center and submit a complaint. After that, the moderators are usually
pretty quick in dealing with the problem.
A simple one-click-report button would make the reporting process more convenient.
Maybe that would help the community to report faster.
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | LegoLDK | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 05:11 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, WoutR writes:
| A simple one-click-report button would make the reporting process more convenient.
Maybe that would help the community to report faster.
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Could do with a new reason in the Report a Message drop down to, simply "Spam".
I never know what to pick from the available options, always go with "Message
is Offensive" which makes me look like some sort of Victorian prude.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 05:56 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 41 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | Could do with a new reason in the Report a Message drop down to, simply "Spam".
I never know what to pick from the available options, always go with "Message
is Offensive" which makes me look like some sort of Victorian prude.
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I use the same, it is at the bottom so quick and easy to find. I doubt the moderators
care too much which reason is given as it is fairly obvious when they see the
message. You can always type SPAM in the reason box if you feel so inclined.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 12:01 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, LegoLDK writes:
| In General, WoutR writes:
| A simple one-click-report button would make the reporting process more convenient.
Maybe that would help the community to report faster.
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Could do with a new reason in the Report a Message drop down to, simply "Spam".
I never know what to pick from the available options, always go with "Message
is Offensive" which makes me look like some sort of Victorian prude.
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Yah it would be nice for a new drop-down one as I usually say they have something
for sale that isn’t in their bricklink shop which just feels weird
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 12:35 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 51 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, LegoLDK writes:
| In General, WoutR writes:
| A simple one-click-report button would make the reporting process more convenient.
Maybe that would help the community to report faster.
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+1
| | Could do with a new reason in the Report a Message drop down to, simply "Spam".
I never know what to pick from the available options, always go with "Message
is Offensive" which makes me look like some sort of Victorian prude.
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Yah it would be nice for a new drop-down one as I usually say they have something
for sale that isn’t in their bricklink shop which just feels weird
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On the moderation side, the reason given in the report / the choice you make
when you report is not very important for spam.
That categorisation helps us understand what you think is wrong with the message.
So it can help greatly for other reports. For instance if you report a sales/advertisement
post, it helps to know that you reported for flooding or because the items are
not in the store.
Note that there’s also no “Spam(mer)” reason/category for banning someone. So
we choose either “Flooding” or “(Other).” Poor spammers can’t understand why
they are banned. But then, they never come back, they always create new accounts,
so we can live with that.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 12:42 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 38 times | Topic: | General | |
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| yah I figured it probably didn’t matter to much which category was selected
it’s just a bit weird but nothing I’d loose sleep over
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 21:25 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 25 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, LegoLDK writes:
| In General, WoutR writes:
| A simple one-click-report button would make the reporting process more convenient.
Maybe that would help the community to report faster.
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Could do with a new reason in the Report a Message drop down to, simply "Spam".
I never know what to pick from the available options, always go with "Message
is Offensive" which makes me look like some sort of Victorian prude.
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Yah it would be nice for a new drop-down one as I usually say they have something
for sale that isn’t in their bricklink shop which just feels weird
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No, bottom of the message, a button "Flag" or such.
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| | | | Author: | UTLF | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 22:39 | Subject: | (Cancelled) | Viewed: | 43 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 22:46 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| B or D are the best options in my opinion
leaning more towards D though, as it would (hopefully) eliminate the link spam
entirely while allowing new users to ask questions without buying & without moderator
intervention.... (hopefully)
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of our cherished forum. Fear not, for our mighty algorithmic warriors are here
to save the day!
The SDM, using a carefully calibrated combination of heuristic analysis, Bayesian
filtering, and cutting-edge linguistic forensics, has identified an aberrant
signal amidst the digital noise. It appears that a rogue spamotron, fueled by
dubious intentions, has attempted to infiltrate our enlightened community.
Rest assured, our AI overlords are hard at work, diligently squashing this sneaky
SPAM manifestation with their virtual mallets of justice. In the process, they
meticulously analyze the SPAM signature, scrutinize its linguistic idiosyncrasies,
and unleash the power of probabilistic algorithms to categorize it with utmost
precision.
Our technologically advanced SPAM-busting mechanisms endeavor to ensure a spam-free
haven for all forum dwellers. Together, we fight this digital menace, armed with
intelligent algorithms and a healthy dose of whimsy.
Please pardon this playful interruption as our AI valiantly wages its battle
against the SPAMmy forces. Carry on with your enlightening discussions and never
forget that humor can be a powerful weapon against the dark arts of SPAM.
Stay vigilant, stay informed, and let the quest for spam-free forums continue!
Yours algorithmically,
The AI SPAM Detection Brigade 🤖💥
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| | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 22:52 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 45 times | Topic: | General | |
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| Of course this text was from chatGPT.
I'm in a all-time-computer-developer-geek heaven when I see what it can reply...
And remark one of the last sentences
| Carry on with your enlightening discussions and never
forget that humor can be a powerful weapon against the dark arts of SPAM.
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Bye, I'm off!
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 23:00 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 43 times | Topic: | General | |
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| From Chat GPT
It sounds like you need solutions that are automated and don't require much
intervention from the moderators. Here are some automated anti-spam measures
that might work:
Advanced CAPTCHA: As mentioned, more sophisticated CAPTCHA systems can be an
effective means of preventing spam bots from registering or posting. CAPTCHAs
can be implemented both during registration and when posting content.
AI/Machine Learning Spam Detection: Use a machine learning system trained to
identify spam. You could initially train the model with data already identified
as spam and allow it to continue learning based on what it correctly identifies.
This could help stop spam from entering the system in the first place.
Automated Blacklists: You could set up an automated system that uses certain
triggers to identify spam. This could include things like the use of blacklisted
words or phrases, links in the first post, the speed of posting, or repeated
posts of the same content.
Rate Limiting: While you already apply some rate limiting, you could implement
additional restrictions based on IP addresses. For instance, limit the number
of new accounts that can be created from the same IP address within a certain
time period.
DNSBL/Bulletproof hosting database checks: You could use a system to check the
user's IP against databases of known spammers or spam-related hosts. These
databases are often free and regularly updated, so you can automatically block
or flag traffic from these sources.
Bayesian Filtering: This is a statistical technique used for spam filtering.
It uses the probabilities of certain words appearing in spam and not-spam messages
to decide whether a new email, or in your case, a forum post, is spam or not.
Remember, the key is to implement a system that is effective at preventing spam
while minimizing false positives that might block genuine new users. Some combination
of the above measures is likely to be the most effective.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Jun 18, 2023 10:39 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 45 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | It sounds like you need solutions that are automated and don't require much
intervention from the moderators. Here are some automated anti-spam measures
that might work [...]
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Yep, there are technical solutions.
Not 100% perfect, someone will always get through, but fine enougH.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | Posted: | Jun 18, 2023 12:40 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 53 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | It sounds like you need solutions that are automated and don't require much
intervention from the moderators. Here are some automated anti-spam measures
that might work [...]
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Yep, there are technical solutions.
Not 100% perfect, someone will always get through, but fine enougH.
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can you plesse follow the rules of the poll & stop using this as a discussion
topic.
it's simple.
vote & move on please
basically you are spamming the Poll with comments
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | legomalego | Posted: | Jun 18, 2023 12:59 | Subject: | (Cancelled) | Viewed: | 28 times | Topic: | General | |
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| (Cancelled) |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | legomalego | Posted: | Jun 18, 2023 13:00 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | General | |
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| I need some popcorn. lol
In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | It sounds like you need solutions that are automated and don't require much
intervention from the moderators. Here are some automated anti-spam measures
that might work [...]
|
Yep, there are technical solutions.
Not 100% perfect, someone will always get through, but fine enougH.
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can you plesse follow the rules of the poll & stop using this as a discussion
topic.
it's simple.
vote & move on please
basically you are spamming the Poll with comments
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Jun 18, 2023 13:03 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 54 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, legomalego writes:
A great French people (Michel Audiard) said:
I don't talk to idiots, it educates them.
Just a random thought
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | Posted: | Jun 18, 2023 14:06 | Subject: | (Cancelled) | Viewed: | 64 times | Topic: | General | |
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| (Cancelled) |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Jun 22, 2023 21:02 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | cycbuild | Posted: | Jun 22, 2023 21:15 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 41 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
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| | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 23:37 | Subject: | (Cancelled) | Viewed: | 49 times | Topic: | General | |
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| (Cancelled) |
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | Posted: | Jun 19, 2023 14:20 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 43 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| 🔍 Automated SPAM Detection Alert! 🚨
Greetings, fellow netizens!
Our highly intelligent and ever-vigilant AI-powered SPAM Detection Matrix (SDM)
has intercepted a perilous incursion of unsolicited digital nonsense in the realm
of our cherished forum. Fear not, for our mighty algorithmic warriors are here
to save the day!
The SDM, using a carefully calibrated combination of heuristic analysis, Bayesian
filtering, and cutting-edge linguistic forensics, has identified an aberrant
signal amidst the digital noise. It appears that a rogue spamotron, fueled by
dubious intentions, has attempted to infiltrate our enlightened community.
Rest assured, our AI overlords are hard at work, diligently squashing this sneaky
SPAM manifestation with their virtual mallets of justice. In the process, they
meticulously analyze the SPAM signature, scrutinize its linguistic idiosyncrasies,
and unleash the power of probabilistic algorithms to categorize it with utmost
precision.
Our technologically advanced SPAM-busting mechanisms endeavor to ensure a spam-free
haven for all forum dwellers. Together, we fight this digital menace, armed with
intelligent algorithms and a healthy dose of whimsy.
Please pardon this playful interruption as our AI valiantly wages its battle
against the SPAMmy forces. Carry on with your enlightening discussions and never
forget that humor can be a powerful weapon against the dark arts of SPAM.
Stay vigilant, stay informed, and let the quest for spam-free forums continue!
Yours algorithmically,
The AI SPAM Detection Brigade 🤖💥
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Now that is funny and a relief.
John P
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| | | | Author: | klausunion | Posted: | Jun 18, 2023 00:08 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 57 times | Topic: | General | |
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| I like option D
In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| Heated topic about Spam & Zero Feedback Member Forum Access via another thread.
maybe a simple Poll would be something needed to see what the Community thinks.
Poll:
Which option would you prefer as a Spamming Solution
A? nothing, Raw Spam is Delicious!
B) require a Pay-To-Play Positive Feedback, similar to the Seller Requirement
C) require new users to be Verified by some Official Secondary means w/ Bricklink.
D) ban Zero Feedback Members from posting URL Links in the Forum.
E) allow Zero Feedback Members Limited Forum Access that is a Moderator Only
visiblie / Replies Enabled post
being fair, let's say leave poll open for 1 week...
to give occational forum readers a chance to participate, if they want too.
please just give a simple letter vote, no harrassing others for their vote. we
are a Civilized Lego Society.
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| | | | Author: | iprice | Posted: | Jun 18, 2023 05:24 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 43 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| Heated topic about Spam & Zero Feedback Member Forum Access via another thread.
maybe a simple Poll would be something needed to see what the Community thinks.
Poll:
Which option would you prefer as a Spamming Solution
A? nothing, Raw Spam is Delicious!
B) require a Pay-To-Play Positive Feedback, similar to the Seller Requirement
C) require new users to be Verified by some Official Secondary means w/ Bricklink.
D) ban Zero Feedback Members from posting URL Links in the Forum.
E) allow Zero Feedback Members Limited Forum Access that is a Moderator Only
visiblie / Replies Enabled post
being fair, let's say leave poll open for 1 week...
to give occational forum readers a chance to participate, if they want too.
please just give a simple letter vote, no harrassing others for their vote. we
are a Civilized Lego Society.
|
I think Option "D" is the best of the bunch. It may not eliminate all
spam, but it should help to reduce it significantly. It's the least restrictive
and wouldn't require Mods to oversee. However I'd still lke a "Report
Post" button for every post on the BL forum, so that spam/abusive etc. posts
can be identified and removed quickly by Mods.
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| | | | | | Author: | WhiteHorseMatt | Posted: | Jun 18, 2023 05:35 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, iprice writes:
| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| Heated topic about Spam & Zero Feedback Member Forum Access via another thread.
maybe a simple Poll would be something needed to see what the Community thinks.
Poll:
Which option would you prefer as a Spamming Solution
A? nothing, Raw Spam is Delicious!
B) require a Pay-To-Play Positive Feedback, similar to the Seller Requirement
C) require new users to be Verified by some Official Secondary means w/ Bricklink.
D) ban Zero Feedback Members from posting URL Links in the Forum.
E) allow Zero Feedback Members Limited Forum Access that is a Moderator Only
visiblie / Replies Enabled post
being fair, let's say leave poll open for 1 week...
to give occational forum readers a chance to participate, if they want too.
please just give a simple letter vote, no harrassing others for their vote. we
are a Civilized Lego Society.
|
I think Option "D" is the best of the bunch. It may not eliminate all
spam, but it should help to reduce it significantly. It's the least restrictive
and wouldn't require Mods to oversee. However I'd still lke a "Report
Post" button for every post on the BL forum, so that spam/abusive etc. posts
can be identified and removed quickly by Mods.
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Agreed, this would be my preference also. Having said that 'stay logged
in on this device' has been broken for 5 years, so I wouldn't expect
coding changes on the forum to happen any time soon.
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| | | | Author: | StarBrick | Posted: | Jun 18, 2023 07:17 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | General | |
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| Instead of placing barriers for all kinds of members to enter, I would like to
see the forum updated with the following options to swithc on/off at a personal
level:
- sales from countries/sellers that DO NOT ship to me
- posts from members below a treshold of feedback where the treshold can be entered
to ones one liking
- ..... (feel free to add )
I think that kind of update/upgrades are way more effective !
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| | | | | | Author: | WhiteHorseMatt | Posted: | Jun 18, 2023 09:47 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 50 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, StarBrick writes:
| Instead of placing barriers for all kinds of members to enter, I would like to
see the forum updated with the following options to swithc on/off at a personal
level:
- sales from countries/sellers that DO NOT ship to me
- posts from members below a treshold of feedback where the treshold can be entered
to ones one liking
- ..... (feel free to add )
I think that kind of update/upgrades are way more effective !
|
I really like the idea of more checkboxes to show hide posts rather than having
to moderate the posts themselves.
The problem with not displaying posts below a user defined feedback threshold
is that it is by definition placing barriers to new members. Bricklink is not
a simple marketplace to find your way round and the forum is the ideal place
for new members to come to for help. If experienced users are e.g. blocking
posts from all under 3 feedback from displaying, then that help will be much
harder to come by. Last thing we want to be doing is putting off new potential
buyers.
I still feel we should have a block / report post button actually in the forum
itself, rather than having to jump through hoops to feedback on things.
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| | | | Author: | jgrossman1025 | Posted: | Jun 18, 2023 08:07 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 41 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | Author: | Carissamiss | Posted: | Jun 18, 2023 08:30 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | General | |
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| Option D |
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| | | | Author: | atkk | Posted: | Jun 18, 2023 09:52 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 46 times | Topic: | General | |
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| B or D
In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| Heated topic about Spam & Zero Feedback Member Forum Access via another thread.
maybe a simple Poll would be something needed to see what the Community thinks.
Poll:
Which option would you prefer as a Spamming Solution
A? nothing, Raw Spam is Delicious!
B) require a Pay-To-Play Positive Feedback, similar to the Seller Requirement
C) require new users to be Verified by some Official Secondary means w/ Bricklink.
D) ban Zero Feedback Members from posting URL Links in the Forum.
E) allow Zero Feedback Members Limited Forum Access that is a Moderator Only
visiblie / Replies Enabled post
being fair, let's say leave poll open for 1 week...
to give occational forum readers a chance to participate, if they want too.
please just give a simple letter vote, no harrassing others for their vote. we
are a Civilized Lego Society.
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| | | | Author: | rab1234 | Posted: | Jun 18, 2023 15:46 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 53 times | Topic: | General | |
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| How about option F ?
Allow admins to completely delete a post from the forum so we never see it. I
see lots of cancelled messages, but even checking the forum regularly, it seems
admins are on top of cancelling the spam. I’ve never actually seen the contents
of one of these spam messages.
In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| Heated topic about Spam & Zero Feedback Member Forum Access via another thread.
maybe a simple Poll would be something needed to see what the Community thinks.
Poll:
Which option would you prefer as a Spamming Solution
A? nothing, Raw Spam is Delicious!
B) require a Pay-To-Play Positive Feedback, similar to the Seller Requirement
C) require new users to be Verified by some Official Secondary means w/ Bricklink.
D) ban Zero Feedback Members from posting URL Links in the Forum.
E) allow Zero Feedback Members Limited Forum Access that is a Moderator Only
visiblie / Replies Enabled post
being fair, let's say leave poll open for 1 week...
to give occational forum readers a chance to participate, if they want too.
please just give a simple letter vote, no harrassing others for their vote. we
are a Civilized Lego Society.
|
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| | | | Author: | legoman77 | Posted: | Jun 18, 2023 17:14 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 71 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| Heated topic about Spam & Zero Feedback Member Forum Access via another thread.
maybe a simple Poll would be something needed to see what the Community thinks.
Poll:
Which option would you prefer as a Spamming Solution
A? nothing, Raw Spam is Delicious!
B) require a Pay-To-Play Positive Feedback, similar to the Seller Requirement
C) require new users to be Verified by some Official Secondary means w/ Bricklink.
D) ban Zero Feedback Members from posting URL Links in the Forum.
E) allow Zero Feedback Members Limited Forum Access that is a Moderator Only
visiblie / Replies Enabled post
being fair, let's say leave poll open for 1 week...
to give occational forum readers a chance to participate, if they want too.
please just give a simple letter vote, no harrassing others for their vote. we
are a Civilized Lego Society.
|
F
John P
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| | | | Author: | here4bricks614 | Posted: | Jun 22, 2023 22:13 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | General | |
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| I mean, come on. A minute apart? At least let me finish reading the first one.
😒
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| | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Jun 22, 2023 22:18 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, here4bricks614 writes:
| I mean, come on. A minute apart? At least let me finish reading the first one.
😒
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Yes, me too I complain - I posted an interesting reply and it's been cancelled
Please people have a good one - I'm off.
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| | | | | | | | Author: | here4bricks614 | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 12:40 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| In General, here4bricks614 writes:
| I mean, come on. A minute apart? At least let me finish reading the first one.
😒
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Yes, me too I complain - I posted an interesting reply and it's been cancelled
Please people have a good one - I'm off.
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http://v4ei.com/comics/index.php?id=eight&check=2300
This will look great on a transcript.
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 14:33 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, here4bricks614 writes:
| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| In General, here4bricks614 writes:
| I mean, come on. A minute apart? At least let me finish reading the first one.
😒
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Yes, me too I complain - I posted an interesting reply and it's been cancelled
Please people have a good one - I'm off.
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http://v4ei.com/comics/index.php?id=eight&check=2300
This will look great on a transcript.
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Another successful thread!
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 21:26 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, here4bricks614 writes:
| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| In General, here4bricks614 writes:
| I mean, come on. A minute apart? At least let me finish reading the first one.
😒
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Yes, me too I complain - I posted an interesting reply and it's been cancelled
Please people have a good one - I'm off.
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http://v4ei.com/comics/index.php?id=eight&check=2300
This will look great on a transcript.
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F !
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| | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Jun 22, 2023 22:19 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, here4bricks614 writes:
| I mean, come on. A minute apart? At least let me finish reading the first one.
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| | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 00:41 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 46 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, here4bricks614 writes:
| I mean, come on. A minute apart? At least let me finish reading the first one.
😒
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maybe you should vote an actual option like many others did to eradicate the
problem.
just a thought.
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| | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 00:46 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 38 times | Topic: | General | |
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| Community Poll is still open for 48 hours.
findings will be forwarded to Admins so they get a general idea of how the Community
feels & the appropriate actions that the Community wants enacted.
don't be shy or intimidated by others to not choose the option you want
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| | | | Author: | brickerking | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 01:33 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 46 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| Heated topic about Spam & Zero Feedback Member Forum Access via another thread.
maybe a simple Poll would be something needed to see what the Community thinks.
Poll:
Which option would you prefer as a Spamming Solution
A? nothing, Raw Spam is Delicious!
B) require a Pay-To-Play Positive Feedback, similar to the Seller Requirement
C) require new users to be Verified by some Official Secondary means w/ Bricklink.
D) ban Zero Feedback Members from posting URL Links in the Forum.
E) allow Zero Feedback Members Limited Forum Access that is a Moderator Only
visiblie / Replies Enabled post
being fair, let's say leave poll open for 1 week...
to give occational forum readers a chance to participate, if they want too.
please just give a simple letter vote, no harrassing others for their vote. we
are a Civilized Lego Society.
|
F… don't like any of those options. If BL cared what we thought here on the
forum, they would be developing seller tools, not updating tax rules for every
country on the planet. Sorry for the two cents.
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| | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 01:35 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 49 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, brickerking writes:
| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| Heated topic about Spam & Zero Feedback Member Forum Access via another thread.
maybe a simple Poll would be something needed to see what the Community thinks.
Poll:
Which option would you prefer as a Spamming Solution
A? nothing, Raw Spam is Delicious!
B) require a Pay-To-Play Positive Feedback, similar to the Seller Requirement
C) require new users to be Verified by some Official Secondary means w/ Bricklink.
D) ban Zero Feedback Members from posting URL Links in the Forum.
E) allow Zero Feedback Members Limited Forum Access that is a Moderator Only
visiblie / Replies Enabled post
being fair, let's say leave poll open for 1 week...
to give occational forum readers a chance to participate, if they want too.
please just give a simple letter vote, no harrassing others for their vote. we
are a Civilized Lego Society.
|
F… don't like any of those options. If BL cared what we thought here on the
forum, they would be developing seller tools, not updating tax rules for every
country on the planet. Sorry for the two cents.
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I mean they still havnt done it for Canada yet sadly all I want for Christmas
is instant checkout and not having to make gst/hst remittance payment
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| | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 03:18 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | F… don't like any of those options. If BL cared what we thought here on the
forum, they would be developing seller tools, not updating tax rules for every
country on the planet. Sorry for the two cents.
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Tax is a legal issue they and we have to comply with. Collecting it is a seller
tool.
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| | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 09:06 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 49 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, yorbrick writes:
| | F… don't like any of those options. If BL cared what we thought here on the
forum, they would be developing seller tools, not updating tax rules for every
country on the planet. Sorry for the two cents.
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Tax is a legal issue they and we have to comply with. Collecting it is a seller
tool.
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LOL
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | calsbricks | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 10:39 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, brickerking writes:
| In General, yorbrick writes:
| | F… don't like any of those options. If BL cared what we thought here on the
forum, they would be developing seller tools, not updating tax rules for every
country on the planet. Sorry for the two cents.
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Tax is a legal issue they and we have to comply with. Collecting it is a seller
tool.
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LOL
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Do not believe it is a seller tool rather a marketplace tool so they can comply
with the changing regs for marketplaces. As a seller none of the tax collections
apply we do not sell into eu; nor states where there is a sales tax ; and soon
into any country which levies a tax on our sales; likr most UK sellers (not registered
for VAT)
Remember Bricklink do not make the rules they have to abide by them..
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 10:45 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 69 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, calsbricks writes:
| In General, brickerking writes:
| In General, yorbrick writes:
| | F… don't like any of those options. If BL cared what we thought here on the
forum, they would be developing seller tools, not updating tax rules for every
country on the planet. Sorry for the two cents.
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Tax is a legal issue they and we have to comply with. Collecting it is a seller
tool.
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LOL
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Do not believe it is a seller tool rather a marketplace tool so they can comply
with the changing regs for marketplaces. As a seller none of the tax collections
apply we do not sell into eu; nor states where there is a sales tax ; and soon
into any country which levies a tax on our sales; likr most UK sellers (not registered
for VAT)
Remember Bricklink do not make the rules they have to abide by them..
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If it was a "seller tool", they would have made a generic way for all
sellers, no matter the country, to manage and collect taxes in a seller-defined
and customizable way instead of just collecting the tax for us. I wonder where
all the tax money goes and how long it sits in BL bank accounts collecting interest?
I haven't looked into it too closely and don't really care, but just
saying, it's not a seller tool. But thanks for the laugh.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 21:24 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 49 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | | Remember Bricklink do not make the rules they have to abide by them..
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If it was a "seller tool", they would have made a generic way for all
sellers, no matter the country, to manage and collect taxes in a seller-defined
and customizable way instead of just collecting the tax for us.
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Me thinks you don't comprehend.
They HAVE to.
There's no choice "Oh you know, you can get the Sales tax, or let the
sellers collect them, or no one - no problem".
I'm 1000% sure they would have preferred to build tools and a brand new shining
search engine, a new tags based Catalog, etc.
| I wonder where
all the tax money goes and how long it sits in BL bank accounts collecting interest?
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There should be an I.Q. exam for posting in forum.
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| | | | Author: | DeLuca | Posted: | Jun 23, 2023 12:58 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 51 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| Heated topic about Spam & Zero Feedback Member Forum Access via another thread.
maybe a simple Poll would be something needed to see what the Community thinks.
Poll:
Which option would you prefer as a Spamming Solution
A? nothing, Raw Spam is Delicious!
B) require a Pay-To-Play Positive Feedback, similar to the Seller Requirement
C) require new users to be Verified by some Official Secondary means w/ Bricklink.
D) ban Zero Feedback Members from posting URL Links in the Forum.
E) allow Zero Feedback Members Limited Forum Access that is a Moderator Only
visiblie / Replies Enabled post
being fair, let's say leave poll open for 1 week...
to give occational forum readers a chance to participate, if they want too.
please just give a simple letter vote, no harrassing others for their vote. we are a Civilized Lego Society.
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Option A.
The spam is amusing.
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| | | | Author: | Daragh | Posted: | Jun 24, 2023 07:26 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 54 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | Author: | FantasyBricks | Posted: | Jun 25, 2023 11:45 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 30 times | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | Posted: | Aug 1, 2023 00:10 | Subject: | Re: Community Poll .. Spam & Forum | Viewed: | 34 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| Which option would you prefer as a Spamming Solution
A? nothing, Raw Spam is Delicious!
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I prefer liverwurst.
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