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 Author: petemoss187 View Messages Posted By petemoss187
 Posted: Mar 24, 2023 13:10
 Subject: This is NOT the definition of "New"
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petemoss187 (27)

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When listing the Bagpiper, Series 7 minifigure as not coming with the stand and
accessories, then it is NOT NEW.

New means that the product is delivered with everything that came in the poly
bag.

Without the stand and accessories, it is "Used."

List your products correctly!
 Author: bb-3194619 View Messages Posted By bb-3194619
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In Selling, petemoss187 writes:
  When listing the Bagpiper, Series 7 minifigure as not coming with the stand and
accessories, then it is NOT NEW.

New means that the product is delivered with everything that came in the poly
bag.

Without the stand and accessories, it is "Used."

List your products correctly!

I thought the definition of new was the pieces not having been interlocked together
previously and only having been touched in order to sort them out, moving them
or shipping them. I thought that omiting pieces, as long as it's mentioned
in the description, was ok
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Mar 24, 2023 13:20
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yorbrick (1209)

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In Selling, ESR. writes:
  In Selling, petemoss187 writes:
  When listing the Bagpiper, Series 7 minifigure as not coming with the stand and
accessories, then it is NOT NEW.

New means that the product is delivered with everything that came in the poly
bag.

Without the stand and accessories, it is "Used."

List your products correctly!

I thought the definition of new was the pieces not having been interlocked together
previously and only having been touched in order to sort them out, moving them
or shipping them. I thought that omiting pieces, as long as it's mentioned
in the description, was ok

Yes, for sets it is, as long as it is listed as incomplete and the missing parts
are noted. Minifigures must be complete though if listed as a minifigure. It
is important to understand the difference between a minifigure and a set.
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
 Posted: Mar 24, 2023 13:17
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Set No: col07 Name: Bagpiper, Series 7 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
* 		col07-6 (Inv) Bagpiper, Series 7 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
2 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2012
Sets: Collectible Minifigures: Series 7 Minifigures

Set new or used

 
Minifig No: col102 Name: Bagpiper, Series 7 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
* 		col102 (Inv) Bagpiper, Series 7 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
Minifigures: Collectible Minifigures: Series 7 Minifigures

Minifigure new or used

Set comes with everything, minifigure without stand and accessories.



In Selling, petemoss187 writes:
  When listing the Bagpiper, Series 7 minifigure as not coming with the stand and
accessories, then it is NOT NEW.

New means that the product is delivered with everything that came in the poly
bag.

Without the stand and accessories, it is "Used."

List your products correctly!
 Author: 129samot View Messages Posted By 129samot
 Posted: Mar 24, 2023 13:17
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129samot (447)

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It can still be considered new but incomplete.
Probably best to list it as the minifigure and not the set.
 Author: algiogia View Messages Posted By algiogia
 Posted: Mar 24, 2023 13:17
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In Selling, petemoss187 writes:
  When listing the Bagpiper, Series 7 minifigure as not coming with the stand and
accessories, then it is NOT NEW.

New means that the product is delivered with everything that came in the poly
bag.

Without the stand and accessories, it is "Used."

List your products correctly!

I understand your frustration but if it's never been played with it's
still new... otherwise all the spare pieces should be sold as used.
There is an "Incomplete" sub-condition which is not always used correctly
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Mar 24, 2023 13:18
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In Selling, petemoss187 writes:
  When listing the Bagpiper, Series 7 minifigure as not coming with the stand and
accessories, then it is NOT NEW.

New means that the product is delivered with everything that came in the poly
bag.

Without the stand and accessories, it is "Used."

List your products correctly!

Why don't you read the rules before making up your own version of them?

This is a set:
 
Set No: col07 Name: Bagpiper, Series 7 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
* 		col07-6 (Inv) Bagpiper, Series 7 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
2 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2012
Sets: Collectible Minifigures: Series 7 Minifigures


This is a minifigure:
 
Minifig No: col102 Name: Bagpiper, Series 7 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
* 		col102 (Inv) Bagpiper, Series 7 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
Minifigures: Collectible Minifigures: Series 7 Minifigures

Without the stand and accessories, a Collectable Minifigure set is either a minifigure
or an incomplete set. It can be used or new, depending on whether it has been
used.

New means it has not been used.
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 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Mar 24, 2023 13:23
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In Selling, 129samot writes:
  It can still be new without the stand and accessories as long as you list it
as incomplete.

I know. That is why I wrote it is either a minifigure or AN INCOMPLETE SET.
 Author: 129samot View Messages Posted By 129samot
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I misread your comment
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In Selling, petemoss187 writes:
  When listing the Bagpiper, Series 7 minifigure as not coming with the stand and
accessories, then it is NOT NEW.

New means that the product is delivered with everything that came in the poly
bag.

Without the stand and accessories, it is "Used."

List your products correctly!

What is it listed as? a set or a minifig?
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Selling, petemoss187 writes:
  When listing the Bagpiper, Series 7 minifigure as not coming with the stand and
accessories, then it is NOT NEW.

New means that the product is delivered with everything that came in the poly
bag.

Without the stand and accessories, it is "Used."

List your products correctly!

No, you’re doubly wrong:

1. New / Used is different from Complete / Incomplete.
  See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102 for definitions.

2. Don’t confuse the different entries:
 
Set No: col07 Name: Bagpiper, Series 7 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
* 		col07-6 (Inv) Bagpiper, Series 7 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
2 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2012
Sets: Collectible Minifigures: Series 7 Minifigures
 
Minifig No: col102 Name: Bagpiper, Series 7 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
* 		col102 (Inv) Bagpiper, Series 7 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
Minifigures: Collectible Minifigures: Series 7 Minifigures

If you buy the minifig only, you get the minifig only.  If you want the stand
and accessories, buy the (complete) set.
 Author: tonnic View Messages Posted By tonnic
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In Selling, petemoss187 writes:
  When listing the Bagpiper, Series 7 minifigure as not coming with the stand and
accessories, then it is NOT NEW.

New means that the product is delivered with everything that came in the poly
bag.

Without the stand and accessories, it is "Used."

List your products correctly!

This would mean all Lego that is taken out of a package like a box, bag, foil
etc. isn’t new anymore.

So in these cases all parts, minifigs, stickersheets, baseplates etc. are used
in your opinion?

That is a strange way of thinking.

What you call used is just incomplete and if mentioned it is perfectly good.
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In Selling, petemoss187 writes:
  When listing the Bagpiper, Series 7 minifigure as not coming with the stand and
accessories, then it is NOT NEW.

New means that the product is delivered with everything that came in the poly
bag.

Without the stand and accessories, it is "Used."

List your products correctly!

By the way, the language "NAME, SERIES X (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)"
and "NAME, SERIES X (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)"
was added to the set and minifigure entries, respectively, of all the CMFs to
make it clear to buyers and sellers that one is the set entry and the other is
the minifigure only entry.
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