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 Author: Bcall730 View Messages Posted By Bcall730
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Bcall730 (12)

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So I want to buy new minifigs and the selection is great but it seems even the
stores with a huge surplus of the figs I want don’t sell with the accessories
they come with in the set. Is it just me but if we are keeping the image of being
a Lego store should accessories be included. Even when building figs at the store
you get accessories. And if accessories are not included, the prices should not
be high if sellers are trying to build the community not just out for capitalism?
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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In Buying, Bcall730 writes:
  So I want to buy new minifigs and the selection is great but it seems even the
stores with a huge surplus of the figs I want don’t sell with the accessories
they come with in the set. Is it just me but if we are keeping the image of being
a Lego store should accessories be included. Even when building figs at the store
you get accessories. And if accessories are not included, the prices should not
be high if sellers are trying to build the community not just out for capitalism?

Accessories are not included with figures unless the seller includes them. Sellers
are free to price it however they want as most of them myself included like to
make a profit from selling the figures
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
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In Buying, Bcall730 writes:
  So I want to buy new minifigs and the selection is great but it seems even the
stores with a huge surplus of the figs I want don’t sell with the accessories
they come with in the set. Is it just me but if we are keeping the image of being
a Lego store should accessories be included. Even when building figs at the store
you get accessories. And if accessories are not included, the prices should not
be high if sellers are trying to build the community not just out for capitalism?

No,
You need to look under Set entry for CMF to have included accessories.
For Minifig entry,sellers are free to include accessories.
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
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  In Buying, Bcall730 writes:
  So I want to buy new minifigs and the selection is great but it seems even the
stores with a huge surplus of the figs I want don’t sell with the accessories
they come with in the set. Is it just me but if we are keeping the image of being
a Lego store should accessories be included. Even when building figs at the store
you get accessories. And if accessories are not included, the prices should not
be high if sellers are trying to build the community not just out for capitalism?

No,
You need to look under Set entry for CMF to have included accessories.
For Minifig entry,sellers are free to include accessories.

See Help page https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Buying, Bcall730 writes:
  So I want to buy new minifigs and the selection is great but it seems even the
stores with a huge surplus of the figs I want don’t sell with the accessories
they come with in the set. Is it just me but if we are keeping the image of being
a Lego store should accessories be included. Even when building figs at the store
you get accessories. And if accessories are not included, the prices should not
be high if sellers are trying to build the community not just out for capitalism?

For the collectible minifig series, look at sets instead of the minifig only
Inventories.
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
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The minifigs you have for sale in your own store don't have accessories.
How is it that you don't understand this?

David
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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In Buying, crazylegoman writes:
  The minifigs you have for sale in your own store don't have accessories.
How is it that you don't understand this?

David

I clicked on that just now and yikes that feedback...
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Buying, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Buying, crazylegoman writes:
  The minifigs you have for sale in your own store don't have accessories.
How is it that you don't understand this?

David

I clicked on that just now and yikes that feedback...

Yikes indeed.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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Do you feel like it is greedy to sell accessories separately? I feel like it
is just putting everything out there where people can choose what they want.
Some minifigs have an obvious accessory, but most don't. People may want
it. If they do, it usually isn't expensive.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Buying, axaday writes:
  Do you feel like it is greedy to sell accessories separately? I feel like it
is just putting everything out there where people can choose what they want.
Some minifigs have an obvious accessory, but most don't. People may want
it. If they do, it usually isn't expensive.

Plus, having a dozen entries in the catalogue (or shop) for the exact same minifigure
but with different handheld tools would be a nightmare.

(For instance, a Classic Spaceman with a radio, a spanner, a gun, a gun with
a Trans-Green round brick, a metal detector, a camera, a camera with a Trans-Red
round brick, a camera with a dish, etc.)
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Capitalism and Community go together like ham and eggs.
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In Buying, Bcall730 writes:
  So I want to buy new minifigs and the selection is great but it seems even the
stores with a huge surplus of the figs I want don’t sell with the accessories
they come with in the set. Is it just me but if we are keeping the image of being
a Lego store should accessories be included. Even when building figs at the store
you get accessories. And if accessories are not included, the prices should not
be high if sellers are trying to build the community not just out for capitalism?

I know of one store that always includes the accessories but also happens to
be one of the (if not *the*) highest-priced stores, so YMMV
 Author: monkypaws View Messages Posted By monkypaws
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I am in the process of stocking my inventory before opening my store for the
first time and am having this exact issue. I know that most stores only sell
the minifig without accessories and bricklink's own section on this states

'Minifigures - Include whole minifigures as seen in the instructions without
any hand-held accessories. Parts included in minifigures should not be included
in the Regular Items section. Sometimes a set may contain more of the same parts
found on a minifigure in the set (for example: a set includes three helmets with
castle chin guard, but only one of them is on the minifigure). In these cases
include the whole minifigure and then include any additional parts in the Regular
Items section.'

However I am torn, feels to me like they should come with anything that is seen
in the minifig assembly process of the instructions. For example, all three characters
in Harry Potter set 76386 - Polyjuice Potion Mistake - have alternative hair,
esp Hermione who's piece covers her whole face.
On Suri's Sunbird -76386 - Ironheart fig has a brick built shoulder peice,
which is included so why not accessories.
I personally have put a note on the fig stating it comes with accessories and
the price reflects the additional pieces included. Will see how this goes and
adjust if needed.

William
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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  However I am torn, feels to me like they should come with anything that is seen
in the minifig assembly process of the instructions. For example, all three characters
in Harry Potter set 76386 - Polyjuice Potion Mistake - have alternative hair,
esp Hermione who's piece covers her whole face.
On Suri's Sunbird -76386 - Ironheart fig has a brick built shoulder peice,
which is included so why not accessories.
I personally have put a note on the fig stating it comes with accessories and
the price reflects the additional pieces included. Will see how this goes and
adjust if needed.

The downside of doing this is that the figures appear expensive and will sit
way down the list when sorted by price.

There is also the issue that if they repeat the figure in another set and it
has different accessories, then the buyer might complain that you did not send
the correct accessories. So you need to say exactly what you are sending, not
just 'accessories'.
 Author: monkypaws View Messages Posted By monkypaws
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In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  
  However I am torn, feels to me like they should come with anything that is seen
in the minifig assembly process of the instructions. For example, all three characters
in Harry Potter set 76386 - Polyjuice Potion Mistake - have alternative hair,
esp Hermione who's piece covers her whole face.
On Suri's Sunbird -76386 - Ironheart fig has a brick built shoulder peice,
which is included so why not accessories.
I personally have put a note on the fig stating it comes with accessories and
the price reflects the additional pieces included. Will see how this goes and
adjust if needed.

The downside of doing this is that the figures appear expensive and will sit
way down the list when sorted by price.

There is also the issue that if they repeat the figure in another set and it
has different accessories, then the buyer might complain that you did not send
the correct accessories. So you need to say exactly what you are sending, not
just 'accessories'.


Good points. I have detailed the extra parts but even as I do it am still questioning
if its the right thing to do. Only just starting out so not a huge number of
figs to sell, my stock is currently around 4000 which seems perverse given I
am building a 6500 peice Mando Juggernaut moc at the moment. Was the tipping
point where I realised I couldn't keep funding my habit from main income,
so now spare cash is going into buying stock instead of parts for my builds but
am trying to stock up slowly so I can try to keep learning mistakes as inexpensive
as possible in these early days. This could wel be one of them.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
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In Buying, monkypaws writes:
  I am in the process of stocking my inventory before opening my store for the
first time and am having this exact issue. I know that most stores only sell
the minifig without accessories and bricklink's own section on this states

'Minifigures - Include whole minifigures as seen in the instructions without
any hand-held accessories. Parts included in minifigures should not be included
in the Regular Items section. Sometimes a set may contain more of the same parts
found on a minifigure in the set (for example: a set includes three helmets with
castle chin guard, but only one of them is on the minifigure). In these cases
include the whole minifigure and then include any additional parts in the Regular
Items section.'

However I am torn, feels to me like they should come with anything that is seen
in the minifig assembly process of the instructions. For example, all three characters
in Harry Potter set 76386 - Polyjuice Potion Mistake - have alternative hair,
esp Hermione who's piece covers her whole face.
On Suri's Sunbird -76386 - Ironheart fig has a brick built shoulder peice,
which is included so why not accessories.
I personally have put a note on the fig stating it comes with accessories and
the price reflects the additional pieces included. Will see how this goes and
adjust if needed.

William

BrickLink is a place where buyers can get exactly what parts they want. They
can buy their minifig and also whatever they want them to be holding. Including
the accessories and charging for them is essentially choosing for your buyers
instead of letting your buyers choose.

BrickLink minifig inventories do not include hand-held accessories to avoid excessive
duplicates. Imagine if every Harry Potter had to have a new catalog entry when
the instructions show him holding something (or not holding something). Or, what
if he's not shown holding the wand in the instructions, but there is a wand
in the set somewhere that's clearly meant to be his. It goes on and on...

Hope that helps,
Jen
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In Buying, monkypaws writes:
  I am in the process of stocking my inventory before opening my store for the
first time and am having this exact issue. I know that most stores only sell
the minifig without accessories and bricklink's own section on this states

'Minifigures - Include whole minifigures as seen in the instructions without
any hand-held accessories. Parts included in minifigures should not be included
in the Regular Items section. Sometimes a set may contain more of the same parts
found on a minifigure in the set (for example: a set includes three helmets with
castle chin guard, but only one of them is on the minifigure). In these cases
include the whole minifigure and then include any additional parts in the Regular
Items section.'

However I am torn, feels to me like they should come with anything that is seen
in the minifig assembly process of the instructions. For example, all three characters
in Harry Potter set 76386 - Polyjuice Potion Mistake - have alternative hair,
esp Hermione who's piece covers her whole face.
On Suri's Sunbird -76386 - Ironheart fig has a brick built shoulder peice,
which is included so why not accessories.
I personally have put a note on the fig stating it comes with accessories and
the price reflects the additional pieces included. Will see how this goes and
adjust if needed.

William

I would say if you want to sell the minifigure with the accessory they came with
on a particular set you could make a super lot….like a window from a with a window.
That way your minifigure price doesn’t appear sky high and it the. Comes with
the accessory. So much work though….I, personally, wouldn’t want to spend the
time doing that unless it was something really special.
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In Buying, margaretcm writes:
  In Buying, monkypaws writes:
  I am in the process of stocking my inventory before opening my store for the
first time and am having this exact issue. I know that most stores only sell
the minifig without accessories and bricklink's own section on this states

'Minifigures - Include whole minifigures as seen in the instructions without
any hand-held accessories. Parts included in minifigures should not be included
in the Regular Items section. Sometimes a set may contain more of the same parts
found on a minifigure in the set (for example: a set includes three helmets with
castle chin guard, but only one of them is on the minifigure). In these cases
include the whole minifigure and then include any additional parts in the Regular
Items section.'

However I am torn, feels to me like they should come with anything that is seen
in the minifig assembly process of the instructions. For example, all three characters
in Harry Potter set 76386 - Polyjuice Potion Mistake - have alternative hair,
esp Hermione who's piece covers her whole face.
On Suri's Sunbird -76386 - Ironheart fig has a brick built shoulder peice,
which is included so why not accessories.
I personally have put a note on the fig stating it comes with accessories and
the price reflects the additional pieces included. Will see how this goes and
adjust if needed.

William

I would say if you want to sell the minifigure with the accessory they came with
on a particular set you could make a super lot….like a window from a with a window.
That way your minifigure price doesn’t appear sky high and it the. Comes with
the accessory. So much work though….I, personally, wouldn’t want to spend the
time doing that unless it was something really special.

And if I remember super lots make it more difficult to find = less sales
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In Buying, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Buying, margaretcm writes:
  In Buying, monkypaws writes:
  I am in the process of stocking my inventory before opening my store for the
first time and am having this exact issue. I know that most stores only sell
the minifig without accessories and bricklink's own section on this states

'Minifigures - Include whole minifigures as seen in the instructions without
any hand-held accessories. Parts included in minifigures should not be included
in the Regular Items section. Sometimes a set may contain more of the same parts
found on a minifigure in the set (for example: a set includes three helmets with
castle chin guard, but only one of them is on the minifigure). In these cases
include the whole minifigure and then include any additional parts in the Regular
Items section.'

However I am torn, feels to me like they should come with anything that is seen
in the minifig assembly process of the instructions. For example, all three characters
in Harry Potter set 76386 - Polyjuice Potion Mistake - have alternative hair,
esp Hermione who's piece covers her whole face.
On Suri's Sunbird -76386 - Ironheart fig has a brick built shoulder peice,
which is included so why not accessories.
I personally have put a note on the fig stating it comes with accessories and
the price reflects the additional pieces included. Will see how this goes and
adjust if needed.

William

I would say if you want to sell the minifigure with the accessory they came with
on a particular set you could make a super lot….like a window from a with a window.
That way your minifigure price doesn’t appear sky high and it the. Comes with
the accessory. So much work though….I, personally, wouldn’t want to spend the
time doing that unless it was something really special.

And if I remember super lots make it more difficult to find = less sales

Yes, it depends on how buyers search but superlots are frequently removed from
searches as some sellers abuse the pricing of them (such as valuable minifigures
listed for a penny combined with a cheap accessory that is listed for a huge
sum) to appear first in the list of prices in a search for the sought after part/figure.
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In Buying, monkypaws writes:

  However I am torn, feels to me like they should come with anything that is seen
in the minifig assembly process of the instructions. For example, all three characters
in Harry Potter set 76386 - Polyjuice Potion Mistake - have alternative hair,
esp Hermione who's piece covers her whole face.
On Suri's Sunbird -76386 - Ironheart fig has a brick built shoulder peice,
which is included so why not accessories.
I personally have put a note on the fig stating it comes with accessories and
the price reflects the additional pieces included. Will see how this goes and
adjust if needed.

I posed a similar question back when I started parting out sets because I too
was torn. Ironically it was the Polyjuice set that got me thinking, but one
of the Friends (the TV show, not the product line) sets really forced the subject
to be addressed. I can't remember the set but Monica has a hand mixer included,
Chandler has a "ticket" and Ross has a coffee cup.

The general consensus was to go by what BL lists for the parts for the minifig,
which generally does not include hand accessories. The whole point of that set/scene
though was to show the physical appearance changes the characters went through...
You could include it for free (lose a little money), include them with a premium
(price yourself to high), bind as a super lot (alienate people that just want
the head covering) or just leave it alone and verify if the buyer doesn't
want the head piece before packing/shipping. I chose the latter.

Then along comes...
 
Minifig No: sw1148  Name: Clone Commando Sergeant Hunter, Experimental Unit Clone Force 99
* 
sw1148 (Inv) Clone Commando Sergeant Hunter, Experimental Unit Clone Force 99
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars The Bad Batch

This character spends more screen time without the helmet on versus with; but
the optional hair is not included... And unless the buyer has seen the instruction
manual would they even know there is optional hair?

I personally decided to include it but I have been rethinking that decision due
to my last point. I'm not trying to fleece the buyer at all, but A: do they
expect it if they don't know about it and B: most people seem more concerned
about the storm trooper parts.