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 Author: WilliamRaine View Messages Posted By WilliamRaine
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 20:54
 Subject: Parts with string attached as counterparts?
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WilliamRaine (175)

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Is there a sort of limit on how these should be listed? The medium and thick
string is easy enough to untie from my experience, but when it comes to the thin
string

 
Part No: x77a  Name: String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length)
* 
x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length)
Parts: String & Net

I have found it nearly impossible to untie this string from parts without damaging
the string.

So the question is what parts would be considered an acceptable counterpart?
There are some assemblies I imagine may not be counted as so, such as the drawbridge
string in Black Monarch's Castle (The string is tied to two pieces with various
pieces caught up in the middle) and the hook string in a few of the vintage pirate
ships (this is often strung through one of the mast segments)

I have noticed a few parts that have counterparts listed already, such as these
pieces:
 
Part No: 2584  Name: String Reel 2 x 2 Holder
* 
2584 String Reel 2 x 2 Holder
Parts: String Reel / Winch
 
Part No: 73037  Name: String Reel Winch 2 x 4 x 2 (Light Gray Drum)
* 
73037 String Reel Winch 2 x 4 x 2 (Light Gray Drum)
Parts: String Reel / Winch

One part that I think should be listed as a stringed counterpart would be this
one:
 
Part No: 2614  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Fishing Rod / Pole, 12L
* 
2614 Minifigure, Utensil Fishing Rod / Pole, 12L
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
 Author: Hexy View Messages Posted By Hexy
 Posted: Jun 8, 2021 06:06
 Subject: Re: Parts with string attached as counterparts?
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I understand that it might be annoying, but the fishing pole rarely comes with
a string attached anymore, and the fishing pole isn't always used for a fishing
pole, which makes a counterpart that has string irrelevant

Regards,
Theo - The_RealRedHex

In Catalog, WilliamRaine writes:
  Is there a sort of limit on how these should be listed? The medium and thick
string is easy enough to untie from my experience, but when it comes to the thin
string

 
Part No: x77a  Name: String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length)
* 
x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length)
Parts: String & Net

I have found it nearly impossible to untie this string from parts without damaging
the string.

So the question is what parts would be considered an acceptable counterpart?
There are some assemblies I imagine may not be counted as so, such as the drawbridge
string in Black Monarch's Castle (The string is tied to two pieces with various
pieces caught up in the middle) and the hook string in a few of the vintage pirate
ships (this is often strung through one of the mast segments)

I have noticed a few parts that have counterparts listed already, such as these
pieces:
 
Part No: 2584  Name: String Reel 2 x 2 Holder
* 
2584 String Reel 2 x 2 Holder
Parts: String Reel / Winch
 
Part No: 73037  Name: String Reel Winch 2 x 4 x 2 (Light Gray Drum)
* 
73037 String Reel Winch 2 x 4 x 2 (Light Gray Drum)
Parts: String Reel / Winch

One part that I think should be listed as a stringed counterpart would be this
one:
 
Part No: 2614  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Fishing Rod / Pole, 12L
* 
2614 Minifigure, Utensil Fishing Rod / Pole, 12L
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Jun 9, 2021 05:26
 Subject: Re: Parts with string attached as counterparts?
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Turez (43)

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In Catalog, WilliamRaine writes:
  Is there a sort of limit on how these should be listed? The medium and thick
string is easy enough to untie from my experience, but when it comes to the thin
string

 
Part No: x77a  Name: String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length)
* 
x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length)
Parts: String & Net

I have found it nearly impossible to untie this string from parts without damaging
the string.

So the question is what parts would be considered an acceptable counterpart?
There are some assemblies I imagine may not be counted as so, such as the drawbridge
string in Black Monarch's Castle (The string is tied to two pieces with various
pieces caught up in the middle) and the hook string in a few of the vintage pirate
ships (this is often strung through one of the mast segments)

I have noticed a few parts that have counterparts listed already, such as these
pieces:
 
Part No: 2584  Name: String Reel 2 x 2 Holder
* 
2584 String Reel 2 x 2 Holder
Parts: String Reel / Winch
 
Part No: 73037  Name: String Reel Winch 2 x 4 x 2 (Light Gray Drum)
* 
73037 String Reel Winch 2 x 4 x 2 (Light Gray Drum)
Parts: String Reel / Winch

One part that I think should be listed as a stringed counterpart would be this
one:
 
Part No: 2614  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Fishing Rod / Pole, 12L
* 
2614 Minifigure, Utensil Fishing Rod / Pole, 12L
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil

Interesting question. I don't think there are any guidelines or limits at
the moment but maybe we could discuss that as part of the catalog project #10
(Define Part Assemblies).
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476

We would need to adress some of the assemblies with strings anyway because they
sometimes include parts or colors which are not part of the regular items section
(because the assemblies often have multiple parts with N/A colors or undetermined
string lengths - see example below). Unfortunately we don't have much these
days to move on with anything as we are completely overwhelmed with new parts
and set inventories.

 
Part No: 2584c07  Name: String Reel 2 x 2 Complete with Black String Thin and Dark Bluish Gray Grappling Hook (2585 / 2584 / x77a / 30192)
* 
2584c07 (Inv) String Reel 2 x 2 Complete with Black String Thin and Dark Bluish Gray Grappling Hook (2585 / 2584 / x77a / 30192)
Parts: String Reel / Winch
 Author: WilliamRaine View Messages Posted By WilliamRaine
 Posted: Jun 13, 2021 20:56
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WilliamRaine (175)

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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, WilliamRaine writes:
  Is there a sort of limit on how these should be listed? The medium and thick
string is easy enough to untie from my experience, but when it comes to the thin
string

 
Part No: x77a  Name: String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length)
* 
x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length)
Parts: String & Net

I have found it nearly impossible to untie this string from parts without damaging
the string.

So the question is what parts would be considered an acceptable counterpart?
There are some assemblies I imagine may not be counted as so, such as the drawbridge
string in Black Monarch's Castle (The string is tied to two pieces with various
pieces caught up in the middle) and the hook string in a few of the vintage pirate
ships (this is often strung through one of the mast segments)

I have noticed a few parts that have counterparts listed already, such as these
pieces:
 
Part No: 2584  Name: String Reel 2 x 2 Holder
* 
2584 String Reel 2 x 2 Holder
Parts: String Reel / Winch
 
Part No: 73037  Name: String Reel Winch 2 x 4 x 2 (Light Gray Drum)
* 
73037 String Reel Winch 2 x 4 x 2 (Light Gray Drum)
Parts: String Reel / Winch

One part that I think should be listed as a stringed counterpart would be this
one:
 
Part No: 2614  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Fishing Rod / Pole, 12L
* 
2614 Minifigure, Utensil Fishing Rod / Pole, 12L
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil

Interesting question. I don't think there are any guidelines or limits at
the moment but maybe we could discuss that as part of the catalog project #10
(Define Part Assemblies).
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476

We would need to adress some of the assemblies with strings anyway because they
sometimes include parts or colors which are not part of the regular items section
(because the assemblies often have multiple parts with N/A colors or undetermined
string lengths - see example below). Unfortunately we don't have much these
days to move on with anything as we are completely overwhelmed with new parts
and set inventories.

 
Part No: 2584c07  Name: String Reel 2 x 2 Complete with Black String Thin and Dark Bluish Gray Grappling Hook (2585 / 2584 / x77a / 30192)
* 
2584c07 (Inv) String Reel 2 x 2 Complete with Black String Thin and Dark Bluish Gray Grappling Hook (2585 / 2584 / x77a / 30192)
Parts: String Reel / Winch

I have noticed that some of these assemblies are not really up to snuff, as you
said with no colors applied or undetermined string length....I will probably
try and add a few of these assemblies to the catalog if I own the set in question.
Some of them may need to be deleted at some point or their inventory changed
and applied as a counterpart to the correct sets.

I would only bother applying this to the thin string, I think.....I have never
had a problem untieing medium string, it loosens very easily with no fraying.
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Jun 15, 2021 05:14
 Subject: Re: Parts with string attached as counterparts?
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Turez (43)

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In Catalog, WilliamRaine writes:
  I have noticed that some of these assemblies are not really up to snuff, as you
said with no colors applied or undetermined string length....I will probably
try and add a few of these assemblies to the catalog if I own the set in question.
Some of them may need to be deleted at some point or their inventory changed
and applied as a counterpart to the correct sets.

Feel free to submit whatever you want. But new parts (from sets released this
month) and inventories have priority so it may take some time until things like
string assemblies will be processed.

  I would only bother applying this to the thin string, I think.....I have never
had a problem untieing medium string, it loosens very easily with no fraying.

I agree.