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 Author: Swamp_Kryakwa View Messages Posted By Swamp_Kryakwa
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Bricklink is missing lots of colors, and says that parts produced in that colors
have some different ones. Also, Trans-Medium Blue is treated as non-neon color,
which is big mistake. Trans-Medium Blue IS Neon color, and I want such issues
to be fixed
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In Suggestions, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  Bricklink is missing lots of colors, and says that parts produced in that colors
have some different ones. Also, Trans-Medium Blue is treated as non-neon color,
which is big mistake. Trans-Medium Blue IS Neon color, and I want such issues
to be fixed

What colours are missing?

I would disagree that trans medium blue is a neon colour
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In Suggestions, BrickCompulsion writes:
  In Suggestions, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  Bricklink is missing lots of colors, and says that parts produced in that colors
have some different ones. Also, Trans-Medium Blue is treated as non-neon color,
which is big mistake. Trans-Medium Blue IS Neon color, and I want such issues
to be fixed

What colours are missing?

I would disagree that trans medium blue is a neon colour

Things like Pearl Red, Pearl Green, Trans-Neon Red
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In Suggestions, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  In Suggestions, BrickCompulsion writes:
  In Suggestions, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  Bricklink is missing lots of colors, and says that parts produced in that colors
have some different ones.

What colours are missing?

Things like Pearl Red, Pearl Green, Trans-Neon Red


Do you have examples of these colours?
 Author: Swamp_Kryakwa View Messages Posted By Swamp_Kryakwa
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In Suggestions, DeLuca writes:
  In Suggestions, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  In Suggestions, BrickCompulsion writes:
  In Suggestions, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  Bricklink is missing lots of colors, and says that parts produced in that colors
have some different ones.

What colours are missing?

Things like Pearl Red, Pearl Green, Trans-Neon Red


Do you have examples of these colours?

Don't have pic, but can tell you set names

Rahkshi Turahk, Rahkshi Lerahk, Tahu Nuva respectively
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In Suggestions, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  Also, Trans-Medium Blue is treated as non-neon color, which is big mistake. Trans-Medium Blue IS Neon color


I believe that "Neon" colours are specifically ones that glow under a blacklight
(Trans-Neon Orange, Trans-Neon Green, etc), and I am not sure that Trans-Medium
Blue does - If you have a picture/video of these parts glowing, I think that
your request will be given more serious consideration.
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In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Suggestions, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  Also, Trans-Medium Blue is treated as non-neon color, which is big mistake. Trans-Medium Blue IS Neon color


I believe that "Neon" colours are specifically ones that glow under a blacklight
(Trans-Neon Orange, Trans-Neon Green, etc), and I am not sure that Trans-Medium
Blue does - If you have a picture/video of these parts glowing, I think that
your request will be given more serious consideration.

I have a bunch of trans blue cheese slopes and the Trans-Medium-Blue ones definitely
react differently under the blacklight.
 
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In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Suggestions, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  Also, Trans-Medium Blue is treated as non-neon color, which is big mistake. Trans-Medium Blue IS Neon color


I believe that "Neon" colours are specifically ones that glow under a blacklight
(Trans-Neon Orange, Trans-Neon Green, etc), and I am not sure that Trans-Medium
Blue does - If you have a picture/video of these parts glowing, I think that
your request will be given more serious consideration.

I have a bunch of trans blue cheese slopes and the Trans-Medium-Blue ones definitely react differently under the blacklight.


Interesting. 🤔
Can you take some pictures of the Trans-Medium Blue parts next to Trans-Light
Blue, Trans-Blue, Trans-Neon Orange, Trans-Orange, Trans-Neon Green, and Trans-Yellow
pieces? I want to compare the effect that Trans-Medium Blue has against known
Neon colours and their non-Neon counterparts.
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In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  Can you take some pictures of the Trans-Medium Blue parts next to Trans-Light Blue, Trans-Blue,


*Trans-Dark Blue
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In Catalog, DeLuca writes:

  Interesting. 🤔
Can you take some pictures of the Trans-Medium Blue parts next to Trans-Light
Blue, Trans-Blue, Trans-Neon Orange, Trans-Orange, Trans-Neon Green, and Trans-Yellow
pieces? I want to compare the effect that Trans-Medium Blue has against known
Neon colours and their non-Neon counterparts.

Here are a few pictures.
 








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In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:

  Interesting. 🤔
Can you take some pictures of the Trans-Medium Blue parts next to Trans-Light
Blue, Trans-Blue, Trans-Neon Orange, Trans-Orange, Trans-Neon Green, and Trans-Yellow
pieces? I want to compare the effect that Trans-Medium Blue has against known
Neon colours and their non-Neon counterparts.

Here are a few pictures.


Thank you! 👍
OP is right - Trans-Medium Blue is a Neon colour!
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In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:

  Interesting. 🤔
Can you take some pictures of the Trans-Medium Blue parts next to Trans-Light
Blue, Trans-Blue, Trans-Neon Orange, Trans-Orange, Trans-Neon Green, and Trans-Yellow
pieces? I want to compare the effect that Trans-Medium Blue has against known
Neon colours and their non-Neon counterparts.

Here are a few pictures.


Thank you! 👍
OP is right - Trans-Medium Blue is a Neon colour!


Well, yeah. The LEGO color number and name for BrickLink Trans-Medium Blue is
143 Transparent Fluorescent Blue.
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:

  Interesting. 🤔
Can you take some pictures of the Trans-Medium Blue parts next to Trans-Light
Blue, Trans-Blue, Trans-Neon Orange, Trans-Orange, Trans-Neon Green, and Trans-Yellow
pieces? I want to compare the effect that Trans-Medium Blue has against known
Neon colours and their non-Neon counterparts.

Here are a few pictures.


Thank you! 👍
OP is right - Trans-Medium Blue is a Neon colour!


Well, yeah. The LEGO color number and name for BrickLink Trans-Medium Blue is 143 Transparent Fluorescent Blue.


I did not realise that - Why do we call it "Trans-Medium Blue" instead of "Trans-Neon
Blue", then? The latter is not taken, and it is more accurate.
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In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:

  Interesting. 🤔
Can you take some pictures of the Trans-Medium Blue parts next to Trans-Light
Blue, Trans-Blue, Trans-Neon Orange, Trans-Orange, Trans-Neon Green, and Trans-Yellow
pieces? I want to compare the effect that Trans-Medium Blue has against known
Neon colours and their non-Neon counterparts.

Here are a few pictures.


Thank you! 👍
OP is right - Trans-Medium Blue is a Neon colour!


Well, yeah. The LEGO color number and name for BrickLink Trans-Medium Blue is 143 Transparent Fluorescent Blue.


I did not realise that - Why do we call it "Trans-Medium Blue" instead of "Trans-Neon
Blue", then? The latter is not taken, and it is more accurate.

Because BL is having bad time with recognizing colors. "Trans-Neon Blue" is how
even Lego called it (actually it was Trans. Fluorescent Blue, but Lego usés different
words for same things).
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In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:

  Interesting. 🤔
Can you take some pictures of the Trans-Medium Blue parts next to Trans-Light
Blue, Trans-Blue, Trans-Neon Orange, Trans-Orange, Trans-Neon Green, and Trans-Yellow
pieces? I want to compare the effect that Trans-Medium Blue has against known
Neon colours and their non-Neon counterparts.

Here are a few pictures.


Thank you! 👍
OP is right - Trans-Medium Blue is a Neon colour!


Well, yeah. The LEGO color number and name for BrickLink Trans-Medium Blue is 143 Transparent Fluorescent Blue.


I did not realise that - Why do we call it "Trans-Medium Blue" instead of "Trans-Neon
Blue", then? The latter is not taken, and it is more accurate.

I am quite sure it is the same reason that other color names are different: BrickLink
and adult fans did not know the official names of LEGO colors in the past when
they were being named for use on commerce websites. If you look at Trans-Medium
Blue in normal daylight, it looks nothing like a "neon" color, whereas Trans-Neon
Green and Trans-Neon Orange definitely look like "neon" colors. The naming had
nothing to do with whether they fluoresced under a UV light.
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:

  Interesting. 🤔
Can you take some pictures of the Trans-Medium Blue parts next to Trans-Light
Blue, Trans-Blue, Trans-Neon Orange, Trans-Orange, Trans-Neon Green, and Trans-Yellow
pieces? I want to compare the effect that Trans-Medium Blue has against known
Neon colours and their non-Neon counterparts.

Here are a few pictures.


Thank you! 👍
OP is right - Trans-Medium Blue is a Neon colour!


Well, yeah. The LEGO color number and name for BrickLink Trans-Medium Blue is 143 Transparent Fluorescent Blue.


I did not realise that - Why do we call it "Trans-Medium Blue" instead of "Trans-Neon
Blue", then? The latter is not taken, and it is more accurate.

I am quite sure it is the same reason that other color names are different: BrickLink
and adult fans did not know the official names of LEGO colors in the past when
they were being named for use on commerce websites. If you look at Trans-Medium
Blue in normal daylight, it looks nothing like a "neon" color, whereas Trans-Neon
Green and Trans-Neon Orange definitely look like "neon" colors. The naming had
nothing to do with whether they fluoresced under a UV light.

Jinx
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Well, yeah. The LEGO color number and name for BrickLink Trans-Medium Blue is
143 Transparent Fluorescent Blue.

duh!

I feel I'm missing the point about these "neon" colors, what's the point
of this property in LEGO bricks? I don't think I've seen sets or MOCs
presented in blacklight...
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In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Well, yeah. The LEGO color number and name for BrickLink Trans-Medium Blue is
143 Transparent Fluorescent Blue.

duh!

I feel I'm missing the point about these "neon" colors, what's the point
of this property in LEGO bricks? I don't think I've seen sets or MOCs
presented in blacklight...

Sun always emits some ammount of uv light, because of this neon parts are slightly
glowing at any time
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In Catalog, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Well, yeah. The LEGO color number and name for BrickLink Trans-Medium Blue is
143 Transparent Fluorescent Blue.

duh!

I feel I'm missing the point about these "neon" colors, what's the point
of this property in LEGO bricks? I don't think I've seen sets or MOCs
presented in blacklight...

Sun always emits some ammount of uv light, because of this neon parts are slightly
glowing at any time

I was mostly wondering why did LEGO bother with making bricks with such property
and if it has been used in any sets or MOCs.
(and I realize the futility of asking why did LEGO bother making this color )
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In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  In Catalog, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Well, yeah. The LEGO color number and name for BrickLink Trans-Medium Blue is
143 Transparent Fluorescent Blue.

duh!

I feel I'm missing the point about these "neon" colors, what's the point
of this property in LEGO bricks? I don't think I've seen sets or MOCs
presented in blacklight...

Sun always emits some ammount of uv light, because of this neon parts are slightly
glowing at any time

I was mostly wondering why did LEGO bother with making bricks with such property
and if it has been used in any sets or MOCs.
(and I realize the futility of asking why did LEGO bother making this color )

Lego utilized it a lot for action figures. Glowy eyes look sick
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In Catalog, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  In Catalog, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Well, yeah. The LEGO color number and name for BrickLink Trans-Medium Blue is
143 Transparent Fluorescent Blue.

duh!

I feel I'm missing the point about these "neon" colors, what's the point
of this property in LEGO bricks? I don't think I've seen sets or MOCs
presented in blacklight...

Sun always emits some ammount of uv light, because of this neon parts are slightly
glowing at any time

I was mostly wondering why did LEGO bother with making bricks with such property
and if it has been used in any sets or MOCs.
(and I realize the futility of asking why did LEGO bother making this color )

Lego utilized it a lot for action figures. Glowy eyes look sick


Neon colours predate LEGO's first action figures, with Trans-Neon Green and
Trans-Neon Orange first appearing in 1980's/1990's Space themes (M;Tron
and Ice Planet, respectively (IIRC)).
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In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Well, yeah. The LEGO color number and name for BrickLink Trans-Medium Blue is
143 Transparent Fluorescent Blue.

duh!

I feel I'm missing the point about these "neon" colors, what's the point of this property in LEGO bricks?


I am not sure if the glowing effect was intended, or simply a side-property
of the colours' formulae.
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In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  I don't think I've seen sets or MOCs presented in blacklight...


Among others: https://www.reddit.com/r/lego/comments/b0jqit/blacktron_ii_i_dream_that_lego_space_will_return/
 
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In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  I don't think I've seen sets or MOCs presented in blacklight...


Among others: https://www.reddit.com/r/lego/comments/b0jqit/blacktron_ii_i_dream_that_lego_space_will_return/

This is nice!
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In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, pgremeau writes:
  I don't think I've seen sets or MOCs presented in blacklight...


Among others: https://www.reddit.com/r/lego/comments/b0jqit/blacktron_ii_i_dream_that_lego_space_will_return/

This is nice!


I agree! 👍
Here is another: https://vonbrunk.tumblr.com/page/21
 
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In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Suggestions, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  Also, Trans-Medium Blue is treated as non-neon color, which is big mistake. Trans-Medium Blue IS Neon color


I believe that "Neon" colours are specifically ones that glow under a blacklight
(Trans-Neon Orange, Trans-Neon Green, etc), and I am not sure that Trans-Medium
Blue does - If you have a picture/video of these parts glowing, I think that
your request will be given more serious consideration.

Trans-Medium Blue does fluoresce, as has been demonstrated here. But I'm
not sure the intention of putting "Neon" in a color name was originally intended
to mean "Fluorescent". Those color names were made long before LEGO was telling
us color names and I'm not sure LEGO has ever marketed the fluorescent nature
of those colors. I think Trans-Neon Green and Trans-Neon Orange may have been
named such because of how they look in regular light. In normal light Trans-Medium
Blue does not remind people of a neon sign.

I'll be fine if that color name changes, but I'm not sure of the value
of it. I think a lot of people would be confused by it and it might make the
color harder for people without black lights and without knowledge of fluorescent
LEGO to recognize the color.

If it is really important for Bricklink to recognize every color that LEGO has
ever used (I'm not sure), there are a couple funny complications in Clikits.
There are two different Trans-Neon Yellow colors that glow dull and glow bright
under black light and there is a color that looks like a match for Trans-Medium
Blue that does not glow at all.
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  Trans-Medium Blue does fluoresce, as has been demonstrated here. But I'm
not sure the intention of putting "Neon" in a color name was originally intended
to mean "Fluorescent". Those color names were made long before LEGO was telling
us color names and I'm not sure LEGO has ever marketed the fluorescent nature
of those colors. I think Trans-Neon Green and Trans-Neon Orange may have been
named such because of how they look in regular light. In normal light Trans-Medium
Blue does not remind people of a neon sign.

I think Lego *did* market the fluorescent nature of trans-neon green at the very
least -- look at any M-tron box and you'll see the trans-neon green elements
glowing. They didn't quite play it up as much with Blacktron II, which uses
the same color.
 
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In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  Trans-Medium Blue does fluoresce, as has been demonstrated here. But I'm
not sure the intention of putting "Neon" in a color name was originally intended
to mean "Fluorescent". Those color names were made long before LEGO was telling
us color names and I'm not sure LEGO has ever marketed the fluorescent nature
of those colors. I think Trans-Neon Green and Trans-Neon Orange may have been
named such because of how they look in regular light. In normal light Trans-Medium
Blue does not remind people of a neon sign.

I think Lego *did* market the fluorescent nature of trans-neon green at the very
least -- look at any M-tron box and you'll see the trans-neon green elements
glowing. They didn't quite play it up as much with Blacktron II, which uses
the same color.

It is definitely fluorescing in the picture, but to kids and moms and dads if
they even stop to think about it, it just seems to be emphasizing the neon-y
color. Having a black light at home is unusual. Kids do not usually have them
as a part of their play. If you want people to get one and use it with their
LEGO, the package needs to say, "Yellow parts GLOW under BLACK LIGHT!"
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In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  Trans-Medium Blue does fluoresce, as has been demonstrated here. But I'm
not sure the intention of putting "Neon" in a color name was originally intended
to mean "Fluorescent". Those color names were made long before LEGO was telling
us color names and I'm not sure LEGO has ever marketed the fluorescent nature
of those colors. I think Trans-Neon Green and Trans-Neon Orange may have been
named such because of how they look in regular light. In normal light Trans-Medium
Blue does not remind people of a neon sign.

I think Lego *did* market the fluorescent nature of trans-neon green at the very
least -- look at any M-tron box and you'll see the trans-neon green elements
glowing. They didn't quite play it up as much with Blacktron II, which uses
the same color.


This seems to be more the 1980's equivalent of rendered backdrops and details,
not specifically marketing a feature of the set.
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Suggestions, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  Also, Trans-Medium Blue is treated as non-neon color, which is big mistake. Trans-Medium Blue IS Neon color


I believe that "Neon" colours are specifically ones that glow under a blacklight
(Trans-Neon Orange, Trans-Neon Green, etc), and I am not sure that Trans-Medium
Blue does - If you have a picture/video of these parts glowing, I think that
your request will be given more serious consideration.

Trans-Medium Blue does fluoresce, as has been demonstrated here. But I'm
not sure the intention of putting "Neon" in a color name was originally intended
to mean "Fluorescent". Those color names were made long before LEGO was telling
us color names and I'm not sure LEGO has ever marketed the fluorescent nature
of those colors. I think Trans-Neon Green and Trans-Neon Orange may have been
named such because of how they look in regular light. In normal light Trans-Medium
Blue does not remind people of a neon sign.

I'll be fine if that color name changes, but I'm not sure of the value
of it. I think a lot of people would be confused by it and it might make the
color harder for people without black lights and without knowledge of fluorescent
LEGO to recognize the color.

If it is really important for Bricklink to recognize every color that LEGO has
ever used (I'm not sure), there are a couple funny complications in Clikits.
There are two different Trans-Neon Yellow colors that glow dull and glow bright
under black light and there is a color that looks like a match for Trans-Medium
Blue that does not glow at all.

Example of thing that can be important:
There are actually 2 Pearl Dark Gray colors - one is late and called "Titanium
Metallic". They are greatly different, and, as far as I remember, have overlapping
parts (old is before 2010 and new is after)
Another one is Flat Silver, being two different colors (new Flat Silver, Lego
calls it Silver Metallic), they have overlapping parts but treated as same one.
New "Flat Silver" is darker than old one
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In Catalog, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:

  Example of thing that can be important:
There are actually 2 Pearl Dark Gray colors - one is late and called "Titanium
Metallic". They are greatly different, and, as far as I remember, have overlapping
parts (old is before 2010 and new is after)
Another one is Flat Silver, being two different colors (new Flat Silver, Lego
calls it Silver Metallic), they have overlapping parts but treated as same one.
New "Flat Silver" is darker than old one

This is all under #2 on our catalog roadmap:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476

I had a number of new colors added to the catalog in the last 1-2 years to fix
problems, and I plan on continuing that work this year. The Pearl Light Gray/Flat
Silver and Pearl Dark Gray issues are much larger and are going to take some
time and planning. My next goal is to separate out the two colors that are lumped
into Trans-Purple (the shade used in Clikits is very different from the modern
Trans-Purple).

Cheers,
Randy
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:

  Example of thing that can be important:
There are actually 2 Pearl Dark Gray colors - one is late and called "Titanium
Metallic". They are greatly different, and, as far as I remember, have overlapping
parts (old is before 2010 and new is after)
Another one is Flat Silver, being two different colors (new Flat Silver, Lego
calls it Silver Metallic), they have overlapping parts but treated as same one.
New "Flat Silver" is darker than old one

This is all under #2 on our catalog roadmap:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476

I had a number of new colors added to the catalog in the last 1-2 years to fix
problems, and I plan on continuing that work this year. The Pearl Light Gray/Flat
Silver and Pearl Dark Gray issues are much larger and are going to take some
time and planning. My next goal is to separate out the two colors that are lumped
into Trans-Purple (the shade used in Clikits is very different from the modern
Trans-Purple).

Cheers,
Randy

It was 3 years ago and still undone, bruh
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In Catalog, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:

  Example of thing that can be important:
There are actually 2 Pearl Dark Gray colors - one is late and called "Titanium
Metallic". They are greatly different, and, as far as I remember, have overlapping
parts (old is before 2010 and new is after)
Another one is Flat Silver, being two different colors (new Flat Silver, Lego
calls it Silver Metallic), they have overlapping parts but treated as same one.
New "Flat Silver" is darker than old one

This is all under #2 on our catalog roadmap:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476

I had a number of new colors added to the catalog in the last 1-2 years to fix
problems, and I plan on continuing that work this year. The Pearl Light Gray/Flat
Silver and Pearl Dark Gray issues are much larger and are going to take some
time and planning. My next goal is to separate out the two colors that are lumped
into Trans-Purple (the shade used in Clikits is very different from the modern
Trans-Purple).

Cheers,
Randy

It was 3 years ago and still undone, bruh

Well, with that kind of immature attitude, don't expect the people who can
make happen what you want to happen actually want to help you. Just saying, bruh.
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:

  Example of thing that can be important:
There are actually 2 Pearl Dark Gray colors - one is late and called "Titanium
Metallic". They are greatly different, and, as far as I remember, have overlapping
parts (old is before 2010 and new is after)
Another one is Flat Silver, being two different colors (new Flat Silver, Lego
calls it Silver Metallic), they have overlapping parts but treated as same one.
New "Flat Silver" is darker than old one

This is all under #2 on our catalog roadmap:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476

I had a number of new colors added to the catalog in the last 1-2 years to fix
problems, and I plan on continuing that work this year. The Pearl Light Gray/Flat
Silver and Pearl Dark Gray issues are much larger and are going to take some
time and planning. My next goal is to separate out the two colors that are lumped
into Trans-Purple (the shade used in Clikits is very different from the modern
Trans-Purple).

Cheers,
Randy

It was 3 years ago and still undone, bruh

Well, with that kind of immature attitude, don't expect the people who can make happen what you want to happen actually want to help you. Just saying, bruh.


Agreed, bruh.

In seriousness, I do want to see these changes made at some point, but
they are definitely lower on my list of priorities when compared to standardising
figure titles or sorting out bar/connector/hilt elements, for example.
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In Catalog, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:

  Example of thing that can be important:
There are actually 2 Pearl Dark Gray colors - one is late and called "Titanium
Metallic". They are greatly different, and, as far as I remember, have overlapping
parts (old is before 2010 and new is after)
Another one is Flat Silver, being two different colors (new Flat Silver, Lego
calls it Silver Metallic), they have overlapping parts but treated as same one.
New "Flat Silver" is darker than old one

This is all under #2 on our catalog roadmap:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476

I had a number of new colors added to the catalog in the last 1-2 years to fix
problems, and I plan on continuing that work this year. The Pearl Light Gray/Flat
Silver and Pearl Dark Gray issues are much larger and are going to take some
time and planning. My next goal is to separate out the two colors that are lumped
into Trans-Purple (the shade used in Clikits is very different from the modern
Trans-Purple).

Cheers,
Randy

It was 3 years ago and still undone, bruh


Making substantive improvements to the Catalog is, like, super hard, bruh. We
need to ensure that the changes that we make are, like, not going to require
additional changes and/or reversions in the future. Moreover, the number
of items in the Catalog, is like, allot - There are over 10,000 Minifigures alone,
so, you know, it takes time, bruh. Seriously, bruh, chilax. Bruh.
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In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:

  Example of thing that can be important:
There are actually 2 Pearl Dark Gray colors - one is late and called "Titanium
Metallic". They are greatly different, and, as far as I remember, have overlapping
parts (old is before 2010 and new is after)
Another one is Flat Silver, being two different colors (new Flat Silver, Lego
calls it Silver Metallic), they have overlapping parts but treated as same one.
New "Flat Silver" is darker than old one

This is all under #2 on our catalog roadmap:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476

I had a number of new colors added to the catalog in the last 1-2 years to fix
problems, and I plan on continuing that work this year. The Pearl Light Gray/Flat
Silver and Pearl Dark Gray issues are much larger and are going to take some
time and planning. My next goal is to separate out the two colors that are lumped
into Trans-Purple (the shade used in Clikits is very different from the modern
Trans-Purple).

Cheers,
Randy

It was 3 years ago and still undone, bruh


Making substantive improvements to the Catalog is, like, super hard, bruh. We
need to ensure that the changes that we make are, like, not going to require
additional changes and/or reversions in the future. Moreover, the number
of items in the Catalog, is like, allot - There are over 10,000 Minifigures alone,
so, you know, it takes time, bruh. Seriously, bruh, chilax. Bruh.

No need to drive the sarcasm so hard. What the non-native english speaking new
member (OP) expressed, was harmless enough. Your fangs are showing
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In Suggestions, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  Bricklink is missing lots of colors, and says that parts produced in that colors
have some different ones. Also, Trans-Medium Blue is treated as non-neon color,
which is big mistake. Trans-Medium Blue IS Neon color, and I want such issues
to be fixed

You can cross-reference colors with this chart: http://ryanhowerter.net/colors.php
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In Suggestions, Stellar writes:
  In Suggestions, Swamp_Kryakwa writes:
  Bricklink is missing lots of colors, and says that parts produced in that colors
have some different ones. Also, Trans-Medium Blue is treated as non-neon color,
which is big mistake. Trans-Medium Blue IS Neon color, and I want such issues
to be fixed

You can cross-reference colors with this chart: http://ryanhowerter.net/colors.php

WOW, Beautiful job on that chart!