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Here is the news:

https://brickset.com/article/53790/plastic-bags-inside-sets-to-be-replaced-with-paper-ones

I am sorry for Axaday and the others who posted proof of change requests with
the bags sealed...
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  Here is the news:

https://brickset.com/article/53790/plastic-bags-inside-sets-to-be-replaced-with-paper-ones

I am sorry for Axaday and the others who posted proof of change requests with
the bags sealed...

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1210363
 Author: tons_of_bricks View Messages Posted By tons_of_bricks
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Interesting....

I wonder if this will make it harder for those people who reseal bags after taking
out the valuable pieces? I can't really see how you can reseal a paper bag
without some obvious sign.
 Author: goldknight View Messages Posted By goldknight
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In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  Interesting....

I wonder if this will make it harder for those people who reseal bags after taking
out the valuable pieces? I can't really see how you can reseal a paper bag
without some obvious sign.

Life will find a way!
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  Interesting....

I wonder if this will make it harder for those people who reseal bags after taking
out the valuable pieces? I can't really see how you can reseal a paper bag
without some obvious sign.

However the bags were sealed to begin with they can be sealed again. Glue.
 Author: tons_of_bricks View Messages Posted By tons_of_bricks
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  Interesting....

I wonder if this will make it harder for those people who reseal bags after taking
out the valuable pieces? I can't really see how you can reseal a paper bag
without some obvious sign.

However the bags were sealed to begin with they can be sealed again. Glue.

True, but paper is more fragile. It would be harder not to make a tear down the
bag. And if you make a tear, it's going to be hard to hide that tear, even
with glue. But, like goldknight said, life will find a way, unfortunately.
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In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  Interesting....

I wonder if this will make it harder for those people who reseal bags after taking
out the valuable pieces? I can't really see how you can reseal a paper bag
without some obvious sign.

However the bags were sealed to begin with they can be sealed again. Glue.

True, but paper is more fragile. It would be harder not to make a tear down the
bag. And if you make a tear, it's going to be hard to hide that tear, even
with glue. But, like goldknight said, life will find a way, unfortunately.

I answered before I saw what the bags looked like. Lego has a hard-earned reputation
as a company that tires hard to look like sustainability is important to them
(even though their whole interest is in making plastic toys and shipping them
around the world...) and this is consistent with that. Their plastic bags have
been a very good example of their clay feet and they are smart to eliminate that.
But I think you are onto something here. It isn't just harder to fake reseal
a bag. It is also harder to find the valuable parts you want. Sophisticated
scammers will still be able to operate, but I expect most of the retail minifig
thieves are adolescents who will have a harder and slower time doing their work.
I have suspected this is the reason that you usually cannot build a minifig
just by breaking one plastic bag. Some parts (and not always the small ones)
are almost always in the smaller inner bag. It makes it take a lot longer to
excavate one on the toy aisle. This will just make it harder. The bags have
pictures on them that will show that the minifig is in there, but you'll
probably have to take the whole bag out to successfully excavate a minifig.
 Author: starbeanie View Messages Posted By starbeanie
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It's why in a lot of sets, they stopped putting 9 minifigs in bag 1. Way
to easy for people to rip off.



In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  Interesting....

I wonder if this will make it harder for those people who reseal bags after taking
out the valuable pieces? I can't really see how you can reseal a paper bag
without some obvious sign.

However the bags were sealed to begin with they can be sealed again. Glue.

True, but paper is more fragile. It would be harder not to make a tear down the
bag. And if you make a tear, it's going to be hard to hide that tear, even
with glue. But, like goldknight said, life will find a way, unfortunately.

I answered before I saw what the bags looked like. Lego has a hard-earned reputation
as a company that tires hard to look like sustainability is important to them
(even though their whole interest is in making plastic toys and shipping them
around the world...) and this is consistent with that. Their plastic bags have
been a very good example of their clay feet and they are smart to eliminate that.
But I think you are onto something here. It isn't just harder to fake reseal
a bag. It is also harder to find the valuable parts you want. Sophisticated
scammers will still be able to operate, but I expect most of the retail minifig
thieves are adolescents who will have a harder and slower time doing their work.
I have suspected this is the reason that you usually cannot build a minifig
just by breaking one plastic bag. Some parts (and not always the small ones)
are almost always in the smaller inner bag. It makes it take a lot longer to
excavate one on the toy aisle. This will just make it harder. The bags have
pictures on them that will show that the minifig is in there, but you'll
probably have to take the whole bag out to successfully excavate a minifig.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
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Really? I always thought the reason was to make the building experience more
fun.

In Catalog, starbeanie writes:
  It's why in a lot of sets, they stopped putting 9 minifigs in bag 1. Way
to easy for people to rip off.



In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  Interesting....

I wonder if this will make it harder for those people who reseal bags after taking
out the valuable pieces? I can't really see how you can reseal a paper bag
without some obvious sign.

However the bags were sealed to begin with they can be sealed again. Glue.

True, but paper is more fragile. It would be harder not to make a tear down the
bag. And if you make a tear, it's going to be hard to hide that tear, even
with glue. But, like goldknight said, life will find a way, unfortunately.

I answered before I saw what the bags looked like. Lego has a hard-earned reputation
as a company that tires hard to look like sustainability is important to them
(even though their whole interest is in making plastic toys and shipping them
around the world...) and this is consistent with that. Their plastic bags have
been a very good example of their clay feet and they are smart to eliminate that.
But I think you are onto something here. It isn't just harder to fake reseal
a bag. It is also harder to find the valuable parts you want. Sophisticated
scammers will still be able to operate, but I expect most of the retail minifig
thieves are adolescents who will have a harder and slower time doing their work.
I have suspected this is the reason that you usually cannot build a minifig
just by breaking one plastic bag. Some parts (and not always the small ones)
are almost always in the smaller inner bag. It makes it take a lot longer to
excavate one on the toy aisle. This will just make it harder. The bags have
pictures on them that will show that the minifig is in there, but you'll
probably have to take the whole bag out to successfully excavate a minifig.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  Really? I always thought the reason was to make the building experience more
fun.

Two birds, one stone.
Sometimes you didn’t even see the second bird, but always claim you did it on
purpose
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  Really? I always thought the reason was to make the building experience more
fun.

Two birds, one stone.
Sometimes you didn’t even see the second bird, but always claim you did it on
purpose

I use ziplocks primarily for inventory management. Only large orders wind up
getting them mailed out. I impulse seal primarily. But I am getting short on
ziplocks for the first time in a long time. Too bad you are so far away. I
would be glad to use yours.
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Cutting more bags is more fun for you?

In Catalog, Teup writes:
  Really? I always thought the reason was to make the building experience more
fun.

In Catalog, starbeanie writes:
  It's why in a lot of sets, they stopped putting 9 minifigs in bag 1. Way
to easy for people to rip off.



In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  Interesting....

I wonder if this will make it harder for those people who reseal bags after taking
out the valuable pieces? I can't really see how you can reseal a paper bag
without some obvious sign.

However the bags were sealed to begin with they can be sealed again. Glue.

True, but paper is more fragile. It would be harder not to make a tear down the
bag. And if you make a tear, it's going to be hard to hide that tear, even
with glue. But, like goldknight said, life will find a way, unfortunately.

I answered before I saw what the bags looked like. Lego has a hard-earned reputation
as a company that tires hard to look like sustainability is important to them
(even though their whole interest is in making plastic toys and shipping them
around the world...) and this is consistent with that. Their plastic bags have
been a very good example of their clay feet and they are smart to eliminate that.
But I think you are onto something here. It isn't just harder to fake reseal
a bag. It is also harder to find the valuable parts you want. Sophisticated
scammers will still be able to operate, but I expect most of the retail minifig
thieves are adolescents who will have a harder and slower time doing their work.
I have suspected this is the reason that you usually cannot build a minifig
just by breaking one plastic bag. Some parts (and not always the small ones)
are almost always in the smaller inner bag. It makes it take a lot longer to
excavate one on the toy aisle. This will just make it harder. The bags have
pictures on them that will show that the minifig is in there, but you'll
probably have to take the whole bag out to successfully excavate a minifig.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  Cutting more bags is more fun for you?

No, but you get to build a minifigure in between boring building stages.

Or you simply build the minifigure that goes with the vehicle you’re building. 
So they can be built and played immediately, or by several people.
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  Cutting more bags is more fun for you?

No, but you get to build a minifigure in between boring building stages.

Or you simply build the minifigure that goes with the vehicle you’re building. 
So they can be built and played immediately, or by several people.

Yep, I thought it was pretty smart that they made regular sets have this advent
calendar vibe that way.
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  Cutting more bags is more fun for you?

No, but you get to build a minifigure in between boring building stages.

Or you simply build the minifigure that goes with the vehicle you’re building. 
So they can be built and played immediately, or by several people.

Yep, I thought it was pretty smart that they made regular sets have this advent
calendar vibe that way.

Okay, but it isn't what I was talking about. I was talking about how a minifig
in bag one requires you to also cut the little bag inside bag one to get some
of the pieces. And it is often larger pieces of the minifig, not the head and
hair, that are in the bag with little pieces. It requires someone on the store
aisle to do a considerable amount of time-consuming fishing to get the entire
minifig out of the box.
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  […]
Okay, but it isn't what I was talking about. I was talking about how a minifig
in bag one requires you to also cut the little bag inside bag one to get some
of the pieces. And it is often larger pieces of the minifig, not the head and
hair, that are in the bag with little pieces. It requires someone on the store
aisle to do a considerable amount of time-consuming fishing to get the entire
minifig out of the box.

Ah, yes, Starbeanie’s post made us forget yours

So, first step: distribute the minifigures during the build.
Second step: put a bit of each minifigure in a little internal baggie for small
pieces.

I’m not sure but I think there’s the case when there are more than one bag for
each step (several bags with the same number) and they put the torso here, the
legs there, and the head/wig/cap in a internal baggie.
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  Cutting more bags is more fun for you?

No, but you get to build a minifigure in between boring building stages.

Or you simply build the minifigure that goes with the vehicle you’re building. 
So they can be built and played immediately, or by several people.

Yep, I thought it was pretty smart that they made regular sets have this advent
calendar vibe that way.

Okay, but it isn't what I was talking about. I was talking about how a minifig
in bag one requires you to also cut the little bag inside bag one to get some
of the pieces. And it is often larger pieces of the minifig, not the head and
hair, that are in the bag with little pieces. It requires someone on the store
aisle to do a considerable amount of time-consuming fishing to get the entire
minifig out of the box.

Are you talking about part-outs? I don't really understand what you're
saying.. what store are you talking about?
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  […]
Are you talking about part-outs? I don't really understand what you're
saying.. what store are you talking about?

Axaday’s talking about the little, unnumbered baggies for small parts that are
inside the numbered bags.  There’s a minifigure part in these now.  So you have
to open the box, the outer, numbered bag, and the little unnumbered bag to have
the complete minifigure.
Longer, more difficult to steal in the toy aisle of the supermarket.

So it’s about peole opening the boxes and removing the minifigures while still
in the store, not about buying, going home, being skilful with knives and glue,
and then returning the “unopened” box to the store.
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  […]
Are you talking about part-outs? I don't really understand what you're
saying.. what store are you talking about?

Axaday’s talking about the little, unnumbered baggies for small parts that are
inside the numbered bags.  There’s a minifigure part in these now.  So you have
to open the box, the outer, numbered bag, and the little unnumbered bag to have
the complete minifigure.
Longer, more difficult to steal in the toy aisle of the supermarket.

So it’s about peole opening the boxes and removing the minifigures while still
in the store, not about buying, going home, being skilful with knives and glue,
and then returning the “unopened” box to the store.

Wow people really open boxes in the store? Here stores are way too crowded
to do that even if it was all in one bag.. you'd be caught immediately
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  […]
Are you talking about part-outs? I don't really understand what you're
saying.. what store are you talking about?

Axaday’s talking about the little, unnumbered baggies for small parts that are
inside the numbered bags.  There’s a minifigure part in these now.  So you have
to open the box, the outer, numbered bag, and the little unnumbered bag to have
the complete minifigure.
Longer, more difficult to steal in the toy aisle of the supermarket.

So it’s about peole opening the boxes and removing the minifigures while still
in the store, not about buying, going home, being skilful with knives and glue,
and then returning the “unopened” box to the store.

Wow people really open boxes in the store? Here stores are way too crowded
to do that even if it was all in one bag.. you'd be caught immediately

There is so much space in the United States that we build our cars and supermarkets
to accommodate the space inside. Also Walmart is open all night. It isn't
crowded at all at 2 AM. At 6 PM you couldn't do it. I am often the only
one on an aisle in the store, but I don't know if I would be alone long enough
to grab a minifig. I am not trying.

It used to be a not uncommon sight to see a Lego set with a hole dug through
it and a few pieces sitting on the shelf. Not every time I went to the store,
but many times in a calendar year. I think I see it less nowadays. But a lot
of stores also have a camera on the Lego aisle now. Not mine. I don't have
an inside information, but it has been my impression that Lego took steps to
make that harder to do.
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  […]
There is so much space in the United States that we build our cars and supermarkets
to accommodate the space inside. Also Walmart is open all night. It isn't
crowded at all at 2 AM. At 6 PM you couldn't do it. I am often the only
one on an aisle in the store, but I don't know if I would be alone long enough
to grab a minifig. I am not trying.

You wouldn’t want to do it at night, when you’re the only one they have to watch. 
You need diversion and people in the way (innocent bystanders who live by “ain’t
my job.”)

(And I’m talking about it as a verification of “the more you talk, the less you
do.”)


  It used to be a not uncommon sight to see a Lego set with a hole dug through
it and a few pieces sitting on the shelf. Not every time I went to the store,
but many times in a calendar year. I think I see it less nowadays. But a lot
of stores also have a camera on the Lego aisle now. Not mine. I don't have
an inside information, but it has been my impression that Lego took steps to
make that harder to do.

Wild Wild Oklahoma.
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  Here is the news:

https://brickset.com/article/53790/plastic-bags-inside-sets-to-be-replaced-with-paper-ones

I am sorry for Axaday and the others who posted proof of change requests with
the bags sealed...

We'll just have to shoot videos opening the bags.

I'm extra sad because I reseal the plastic for orders in my store. Any plastic
that they don't give me I have to buy separately.
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  Here is the news:

https://brickset.com/article/53790/plastic-bags-inside-sets-to-be-replaced-with-paper-ones

I am sorry for Axaday and the others who posted proof of change requests with
the bags sealed...

We'll just have to shoot videos opening the bags.

I'm extra sad because I reseal the plastic for orders in my store. Any plastic
that they don't give me I have to buy separately.

Yes, same here. Lego's bags is almost the only packaging material I have
ever used. Maybe we can use the paper bags though? Bit of a nuisance they're
not transparent but people will recognise it as environmentally friendly so maybe
in the end it's not so bad.
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  Here is the news:

https://brickset.com/article/53790/plastic-bags-inside-sets-to-be-replaced-with-paper-ones

I am sorry for Axaday and the others who posted proof of change requests with
the bags sealed...

We'll just have to shoot videos opening the bags.

I'm extra sad because I reseal the plastic for orders in my store. Any plastic
that they don't give me I have to buy separately.

Yes, same here. Lego's bags is almost the only packaging material I have
ever used. Maybe we can use the paper bags though? Bit of a nuisance they're
not transparent but people will recognise it as environmentally friendly so maybe
in the end it's not so bad.

And I had already bought some plastic for the purpose because I have found that
Lego doesn't provide me quite enough. It is not very expensive in the long
run.
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
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And I had already bought some plastic for the purpose because I have found that
Lego doesn't provide me quite enough. It is not very expensive in the long
run.

And it not being very expensive is a problem: I don’t have use for all the baggies
I received with BL orders, but it’d too expensive to post them to someone who
could use them.
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
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And I had already bought some plastic for the purpose because I have found that
Lego doesn't provide me quite enough. It is not very expensive in the long
run.

And it not being very expensive is a problem: I don’t have use for all the baggies
I received with BL orders, but it’d too expensive to post them to someone who
could use them.

I've been including comments with my orders to not bag parts separately.
It's worked so far, getting one larger bag for a few dozen pieces. As I'm
not a seller, I have pretty much no reuse case for bags smaller than about 5
inches.
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  […]
And I had already bought some plastic for the purpose because I have found that
Lego doesn't provide me quite enough. It is not very expensive in the long
run.

And it not being very expensive is a problem: I don’t have use for all the baggies
I received with BL orders, but it’d too expensive to post them to someone who
could use them.

I had a buyer who *insisted* that I not use separate bags ...even after I told
him that the way Canada Post charges for parcels over 2.0 cm is very expensive
and that there is no way i can make 2 or 3 hundred individual pieces lay flat
enough without using smaller bags and then taping them in place ...

After he got the expensive "all parts in a single bag' option ...he's
gone back to ordering letting me bag and tape to minimize postage costs ... I
don't use more bags and tape than I have to ...just enough
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In Catalog, Grego writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  […]
And I had already bought some plastic for the purpose because I have found that
Lego doesn't provide me quite enough. It is not very expensive in the long
run.

And it not being very expensive is a problem: I don’t have use for all the baggies
I received with BL orders, but it’d too expensive to post them to someone who
could use them.

I had a buyer who *insisted* that I not use separate bags ...even after I told
him that the way Canada Post charges for parcels over 2.0 cm is very expensive
and that there is no way i can make 2 or 3 hundred individual pieces lay flat
enough without using smaller bags and then taping them in place ...

After he got the expensive "all parts in a single bag' option ...he's
gone back to ordering letting me bag and tape to minimize postage costs ... I
don't use more bags and tape than I have to ...just enough

Oh, I didn’t say they weren’t useful or appreciated in a BL package   It’s
just that I’ve not much use for them afterward and it’s not worth it to ship
used bags to a seller when they can get new ones for way cheaper.
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That will kill the fun I have on ebay figuring out what random sealed bags include
and getting bargains.

I do wonder if the problem with plastics really has to do with the plastics themselves
or the combination of a lack of recycling infrastructure and complicated programs.

In Michigan, cans, and bottles (plastic & glass) that have a 10 cent return value
are probably more likely to be recycled, yet I have found recycling other items
to be more complicated.

In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  Here is the news:

https://brickset.com/article/53790/plastic-bags-inside-sets-to-be-replaced-with-paper-ones

I am sorry for Axaday and the others who posted proof of change requests with
the bags sealed...
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In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  That will kill the fun I have on ebay figuring out what random sealed bags include
and getting bargains.


Kill the fun, nah, but yeah, I agree it will kill the bargain part


Or perhaps level the playing field.


I dunno, I've only bought sealed rando bags on ebay once or twice, and both
times I spotted what was there, I don't think I'd gamble on it otherwise.
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In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  That will kill the fun I have on ebay figuring out what random sealed bags include
and getting bargains.


Kill the fun, nah, but yeah, I agree it will kill the bargain part


Or perhaps level the playing field.


I dunno, I've only bought sealed rando bags on ebay once or twice, and both
times I spotted what was there, I don't think I'd gamble on it otherwise.

There will probably be codes on the bags like the minifigure 'blind bags'.
How else will the factories be able to look at a bunch of bags an know what
set they belong to? Even if the packaging lines are fully automated, bags of
parts will fall of the line or they will switch to another set and have to collect
the unpackaged bags from the previous set.

The people who do their research will know what bag 'codes' are the good
ones.
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In Catalog, DanialR writes:
  In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  That will kill the fun I have on ebay figuring out what random sealed bags include
and getting bargains.


Kill the fun, nah, but yeah, I agree it will kill the bargain part


Or perhaps level the playing field.


I dunno, I've only bought sealed rando bags on ebay once or twice, and both
times I spotted what was there, I don't think I'd gamble on it otherwise.

There will probably be codes on the bags like the minifigure 'blind bags'.
How else will the factories be able to look at a bunch of bags an know what
set they belong to? Even if the packaging lines are fully automated, bags of
parts will fall of the line or they will switch to another set and have to collect
the unpackaged bags from the previous set.

The people who do their research will know what bag 'codes' are the good
ones.

This may prove rather tricky when parting out multiple copies of the same set...

I really hope there will be a way to recognise the bags that have the same numbers.
Or that this means they will also stop putting the same numbers on different
bags. Really not into accidentally throwing the wrong bag onto the pile.
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  Here is the news:

https://brickset.com/article/53790/plastic-bags-inside-sets-to-be-replaced-with-paper-ones

I am sorry for Axaday and the others who posted proof of change requests with
the bags sealed...

Perhaps CA will see a comeback as the base ingredient for bricks and plates.
We have been on the ABS standard since 1964. CA has it's base origins in
wood pulp and cotton fibers, both renewable.

Nita Rae
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In Catalog, cosmicray writes:
  In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  Here is the news:

https://brickset.com/article/53790/plastic-bags-inside-sets-to-be-replaced-with-paper-ones

I am sorry for Axaday and the others who posted proof of change requests with
the bags sealed...

Perhaps CA will see a comeback as the base ingredient for bricks and plates.
We have been on the ABS standard since 1964. CA has it's base origins in
wood pulp and cotton fibers, both renewable.

Now this is an interesting thought...

Yeah, maybe. Perhaps a better, updated structure of the cellulose acetate chemical
formula?

-popsicle
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
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https://brickset.com/article/53790/plastic-bags-inside-sets-to-be-replaced-with-paper-ones

I am sorry for Axaday and the others who posted proof of change requests with
the bags sealed...

3 years later, I have only seen paper bags once.

But the sets that I am opening and posting proof of change requests haven't
changed over to paper and won't for a long time.