I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.
I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.
Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL? (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)
And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)
——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here
It has always been my intention to purchase some of these and donate it myself
as there is no official Braille partner here. This school would most definitely
gain from such a donation: http://www.pioneerschool.org.za/
I sincerely hope that admins will allow these to be sold on BL in order to reach
a wider audience than what TLG is aiming for.
I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.
Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL? (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)
And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)
——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here
It has always been my intention to purchase some of these and donate it myself
as there is no official Braille partner here. This school would most definitely
gain from such a donation: http://www.pioneerschool.org.za/
I sincerely hope that admins will allow these to be sold on BL in order to reach
a wider audience than what TLG is aiming for.
I think this is a difficult one. If they are not going to sell them, then it
seems a bit wrong that they allow others to sell them if they are not a commercial
product.
I showed the original story to a partially sighted friend who teaches Braille
and he was quite positive about them but did point out that they are way too
big so probably best for younger kids only, like a sighted kid sounding out a
word letter by letter.
I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.
Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL? (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)
And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)
——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here
It has always been my intention to purchase some of these and donate it myself
as there is no official Braille partner here. This school would most definitely
gain from such a donation: http://www.pioneerschool.org.za/
I sincerely hope that admins will allow these to be sold on BL in order to reach
a wider audience than what TLG is aiming for.
I think this is a difficult one. If they are not going to sell them, then it
seems a bit wrong that they allow others to sell them if they are not a commercial
product.
I showed the original story to a partially sighted friend who teaches Braille
and he was quite positive about them but did point out that they are way too
big so probably best for younger kids only, like a sighted kid sounding out a
word letter by letter.
I think here we are privileged (?) that the government will not allow something
as a donation unless there is certification all along the transaction's entire
route. So from the sale on BL, the import, the distribution to the school - everything
has to be aboveboard and with a proper paper trail. I think under those circumstances,
the sale as a non-commercial product can be managed with all of the parties including
BL.
My thinking was not also only on the size but also for the fact hat we have 11
official languages and schooling is not available in all 11, the situation is
even worse for Braille books in for example SeSotho. So my thinking was they
could be used as mother tongue teaching aids, even if they are not used by the
children directly.
I think this is a difficult one. If they are not going to sell them, then it
seems a bit wrong that they allow others to sell them if they are not a commercial
product.
I showed the original story to a partially sighted friend who teaches Braille
and he was quite positive about them but did point out that they are way too
big so probably best for younger kids only, like a sighted kid sounding out a
word letter by letter.
Yes, this is cited in this article: they are big, they make kids move their fingers
vertically which is not recommended, but they are not made to write War & Piece
(*giggles at his own cleverness*), they are indeed made for learning, for younger
or less-younger kids.
I think here we are privileged (?) that the government will not allow something
as a donation unless there is certification all along the transaction's entire
route. So from the sale on BL, the import, the distribution to the school - everything
has to be aboveboard and with a proper paper trail. I think under those circumstances,
the sale as a non-commercial product can be managed with all of the parties including
BL.
Good point. Some paperworks but I guess manageable.
My thinking was not also only on the size but also for the fact hat we have 11
official languages and schooling is not available in all 11, the situation is
even worse for Braille books in for example SeSotho. So my thinking was they
could be used as mother tongue teaching aids, even if they are not used by the
children directly.
Do the 11 languages have a writting system? Latin-based?
The letters and signs are limited, not only in Braille but on these bricks.
For instance, they say there’s + and − but not ÷ or × because everyone don’t
agree on their Braille coding. French Braille has diacritics but every language
has its own system.
They are the equivalent of big letters or lettered cubes: an introduction to
letters.
I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.
Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL? (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)
And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)
——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here
If they are genuine LEGO products, they are candidates to be added to the catalog.
However, there are limitations that the catalog has, and we don't guarantee
admission for any non-standard item. For years, Modulex was not a part of the
catalog. Currently, employee business cards are genuine LEGO but do not have
entries. So we'll have to see when it comes to these how much demand there
is and how practical it is to include them.
Bricklink community: There are so many parts in Brick,Modified, let's try
to clean it up a little bit!
I'm not exactly your catalog savvy type, but isn't there already an Educational
& Dacta line of LEGO for children and educators, that these would conveniently
fall into?
LEGO: Hold my beer
A strong possibility of getting an empty glass back, around here
I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.
Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL? (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)
And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)
——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here
First, thanks for linking the interesting article.
It’s a good question you pose, with unique considerations.
But consider the many parents/teachers that would be able to more easily get
the item for their children, if it were made more widely available through the
marketplace.
Allowing an item into the free market shouldn’t be viewed as stealing or taking
from one particular group, but rather as opening more opportunities to get the
item, or spreading the product more widely getting it into more (little) hands.
“stealing from children?” Always try and see the better angels of our nature,
is good rule, IMHO.
I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.
Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL? (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)
And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)
——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here
While I have no Horse in this race. I personally DO not only NOT want to see
these on Bricklink but anyone SELLING them should get an Arrow to the Knee. The
Purpose of these are for Blind Children, Not so there is a Scummy market of third
party sellers making a profit and I know we have a few here that would do it.
If BL had some better management to address LEGO in the Buying side verse History
Archive I'd say it would be here for History reference without an option
to buy.
If BL had some better management to address LEGO in the Buying side verse History
Archive I'd say it would be here for History reference without an option
to buy.
I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.
Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL? (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)
And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)
——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here
While I have no Horse in this race. I personally DO not only NOT want to see
these on Bricklink but anyone SELLING them should get an Arrow to the Knee. The
Purpose of these are for Blind Children, Not so there is a Scummy market of third
party sellers making a profit and I know we have a few here that would do it.
If BL had some better management to address LEGO in the Buying side verse History
Archive I'd say it would be here for History reference without an option
to buy.
End of Line......
What if the LEGO Group set up a program where people could support institutions
for the blind by buying these special bricks? For every brick purchased, say
25 bricks would be donated to an institution. The bricks that went to supporters
would be a reminder to them of the cause of blind people and also reminded of
the LEGO Group's role in supporting them.
Even if there weren't an official program set up, the bricks would still
serve the same sentimental purpose.
I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.
Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL? (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)
And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)
——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here
While I have no Horse in this race. I personally DO not only NOT want to see
these on Bricklink but anyone SELLING them should get an Arrow to the Knee. The
Purpose of these are for Blind Children, Not so there is a Scummy market of third
party sellers making a profit and I know we have a few here that would do it.
If BL had some better management to address LEGO in the Buying side verse History
Archive I'd say it would be here for History reference without an option
to buy.
End of Line......
What if the LEGO Group set up a program where people could support institutions
for the blind by buying these special bricks? For every brick purchased, say
25 bricks would be donated to an institution. The bricks that went to supporters
would be a reminder to them of the cause of blind people and also reminded of
the LEGO Group's role in supporting them.
Even if there weren't an official program set up, the bricks would still
serve the same sentimental purpose.
I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.
Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL? (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)
And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)
——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here
While I have no Horse in this race. I personally DO not only NOT want to see
these on Bricklink but anyone SELLING them should get an Arrow to the Knee. The
Purpose of these are for Blind Children, Not so there is a Scummy market of third
party sellers making a profit and I know we have a few here that would do it.
If BL had some better management to address LEGO in the Buying side verse History
Archive I'd say it would be here for History reference without an option
to buy.
End of Line......
What if the LEGO Group set up a program where people could support institutions
for the blind by buying these special bricks? For every brick purchased, say
25 bricks would be donated to an institution. The bricks that went to supporters
would be a reminder to them of the cause of blind people and also reminded of
the LEGO Group's role in supporting them.
Even if there weren't an official program set up, the bricks would still
serve the same sentimental purpose.
We also see some school charity donations finding their way to resellers after
years of use. I see no problem in that.
Also, I would like to buy these bricks for my collection. It would be great if
I could buy them from LEGO and support their charity programme that way.
While I have no Horse in this race. I personally DO not only NOT want to see
these on Bricklink but anyone SELLING them should get an Arrow to the Knee. The
Purpose of these are for Blind Children, Not so there is a Scummy market of third
party sellers making a profit and I know we have a few here that would do it.
Question
What if a blind person loses a blind LEGO brick and it needs to be replaced.
If they are not for sale on BrickLink and they are discontinued by LEGO, how
is the blind person supposed to get replacement bricks?
While I have no Horse in this race. I personally DO not only NOT want to see
these on Bricklink but anyone SELLING them should get an Arrow to the Knee. The
Purpose of these are for Blind Children, Not so there is a Scummy market of third
party sellers making a profit and I know we have a few here that would do it.
Question
What if a blind person loses a blind LEGO brick and it needs to be replaced.
If they are not for sale on BrickLink and they are discontinued by LEGO, how
is the blind person supposed to get replacement bricks?
I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.
Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL? (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)
And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)
——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here
While I have no Horse in this race. I personally DO not only NOT want to see
these on Bricklink but anyone SELLING them should get an Arrow to the Knee. The
Purpose of these are for Blind Children, Not so there is a Scummy market of third
party sellers making a profit and I know we have a few here that would do it.
I'm not exactly your catalog savvy type, but isn't there already an Educational
& Dacta line of LEGO for children and educators, for your "scummy market of third
party sellers" to profit from?
I'm not trying to be argumentative or sarcastic here, I actually don't
know, as I've never bought or sold anything of that line. Would these specialty
bricks fall into that line?
If BL had some better management to address LEGO in the Buying side verse History
Archive I'd say it would be here for History reference without an option
to buy.
I'm not exactly your catalog savvy type, but isn't there already an Educational
& Dacta line of LEGO for children and educators, for your "scummy market of third
party sellers" to profit from?
YEP... and this is something now I see is harder because at least the Pitsco
through Education Site isn't selling the amount it used to and I WILL point
the finger at those selling the old Blue Pneumatic Tanks at Crazy markup knowing
dam well they bought these from the Pitsco Store and they were a THIRD of the
price. When I found out back in the day Pitsco had the sourcing for rare things
and finding there was NO NEED to prove you were in education I was like wow...
I let it go but made a mental note of THOSE people... However that wasn't
the point of my post. I was being more of a Its gonna happen no matter what but
if the Arrow in the Knee possible preventing it. So be it. I mean Who the hell
am I to dictate to others what they want to do here anyway. Considering I've
seen the avenues taken over the last nearly 20 years. It Far from the Community
it once was.
My real concern is just not taking away the bricks from those who should get
it. I've seen to many times with some of the early Ideas sets where a seller
on here or other places were able to get 50 to 100 sets and people bitching that
LEGO never has them in stock. Lego obviously curbed it but there's always
someone bucking the system and honestly I'm not afraid to point it out. I
mean if I was some kind of Rebel scum myself I guess I would do it too, however
This isn't Mos Eisley Spaceport and I'm no Scruffy Nerf Herder.
I'm not exactly your catalog savvy type, but isn't there already an Educational
& Dacta line of LEGO for children and educators, for your "scummy market of third
party sellers" to profit from?
YEP... and this is something now I see is harder because at least the Pitsco
through Education Site isn't selling the amount it used to and I WILL point
the finger at those selling the old Blue Pneumatic Tanks at Crazy markup knowing
dam well they bought these from the Pitsco Store and they were a THIRD of the
price. When I found out back in the day Pitsco had the sourcing for rare things
and finding there was NO NEED to prove you were in education I was like wow...
I let it go but made a mental note of THOSE people... However that wasn't
the point of my post. I was being more of a Its gonna happen no matter what but
if the Arrow in the Knee possible preventing it. So be it. I mean Who the hell
am I to dictate to others what they want to do here anyway. Considering I've
seen the avenues taken over the last nearly 20 years. It Far from the Community
it once was.
My real concern is just not taking away the bricks from those who should get
it. I've seen to many times with some of the early Ideas sets where a seller
on here or other places were able to get 50 to 100 sets and people bitching that
LEGO never has them in stock. Lego obviously curbed it but there's always
someone bucking the system and honestly I'm not afraid to point it out.
I mean if I was some kind of Rebel scum myself I guess I would do it too, however This isn't Mos Eisley Spaceport and I'm no Scruffy Nerf Herder.
I take it you see yourself as a Han Solo, then? The plain speaking hero type?
And metaphorically the profit seekers here are Rebel scum?
So, to the part of my post that got cut in your reply: Would these specialty
bricks fall within the Educational & Dacta line?
I'm not exactly your catalog savvy type, but isn't there already an Educational
& Dacta line of LEGO for children and educators, for your "scummy market of third
party sellers" to profit from?
YEP... and this is something now I see is harder because at least the Pitsco
through Education Site isn't selling the amount it used to and I WILL point
the finger at those selling the old Blue Pneumatic Tanks at Crazy markup knowing
dam well they bought these from the Pitsco Store and they were a THIRD of the
price. When I found out back in the day Pitsco had the sourcing for rare things
and finding there was NO NEED to prove you were in education I was like wow...
I let it go but made a mental note of THOSE people... However that wasn't
the point of my post. I was being more of a Its gonna happen no matter what but
if the Arrow in the Knee possible preventing it. So be it. I mean Who the hell
am I to dictate to others what they want to do here anyway. Considering I've
seen the avenues taken over the last nearly 20 years. It Far from the Community
it once was.
My real concern is just not taking away the bricks from those who should get
it. I've seen to many times with some of the early Ideas sets where a seller
on here or other places were able to get 50 to 100 sets and people bitching that
LEGO never has them in stock. Lego obviously curbed it but there's always
someone bucking the system and honestly I'm not afraid to point it out.
I mean if I was some kind of Rebel scum myself I guess I would do it too, however This isn't Mos Eisley Spaceport and I'm no Scruffy Nerf Herder.
HAHAH I realize I may have "Stretched" some of my attempts at humor but it just
so happens I happened to have Starwars playing in the background at the time
of the original post and for some reason I just pulled some off the top Madlibs
attempt at humor. its clear I don't do stand up comedic work. probably be
boo'd off the stage of Tomatoes being pelted at me.
I take it you see yourself as a Han Solo, then? The plain speaking hero type?
And metaphorically the profit seekers here are Rebel scum?
I believe everyone is a "rebel scum" hahahah.... just kidding
So, to the part of my post that got cut in your reply: Would these specialty
bricks fall within the Educational & Dacta line?
Got a little greedy with the snips..
It appears that from whats in the wild now its an Educational/Dacta line. I would
like to see it based on if you can buy it or not free or not its at the very
least only here for Archive purposes. Selling/Buying rights should be a trigger
that BL LEGO pulls. I do realize that above statement slightly comes off different
than the original post but I'm factoring in a little what some of the Other
people posted which actually all are 100% points. I do value pushback when I
may have overlooked so maybe it does belong here but I hope the powers at be
do what they can to keep it in a way that can be less abusive than its typical
from the past.
I will just shut my mouth and I apologize if my post might be off the rails a
little. I try not to get to crazy but for some reason this just hit a nerve.
I'm not exactly your catalog savvy type, but isn't there already an Educational
& Dacta line of LEGO for children and educators, for your "scummy market of third
party sellers" to profit from?
YEP... and this is something now I see is harder because at least the Pitsco
through Education Site isn't selling the amount it used to and I WILL point
the finger at those selling the old Blue Pneumatic Tanks at Crazy markup knowing
dam well they bought these from the Pitsco Store and they were a THIRD of the
price. When I found out back in the day Pitsco had the sourcing for rare things
and finding there was NO NEED to prove you were in education I was like wow...
I let it go but made a mental note of THOSE people... However that wasn't
the point of my post. I was being more of a Its gonna happen no matter what but
if the Arrow in the Knee possible preventing it. So be it. I mean Who the hell
am I to dictate to others what they want to do here anyway. Considering I've
seen the avenues taken over the last nearly 20 years. It Far from the Community
it once was.
My real concern is just not taking away the bricks from those who should get
it. I've seen to many times with some of the early Ideas sets where a seller
on here or other places were able to get 50 to 100 sets and people bitching that
LEGO never has them in stock. Lego obviously curbed it but there's always
someone bucking the system and honestly I'm not afraid to point it out.
I mean if I was some kind of Rebel scum myself I guess I would do it too, however This isn't Mos Eisley Spaceport and I'm no Scruffy Nerf Herder.
HAHAH I realize I may have "Stretched" some of my attempts at humor but it just
so happens I happened to have Starwars playing in the background at the time
of the original post and for some reason I just pulled some off the top Madlibs
attempt at humor. its clear I don't do stand up comedic work. probably be
boo'd off the stage of Tomatoes being pelted at me.
I take it you see yourself as a Han Solo, then? The plain speaking hero type?
And metaphorically the profit seekers here are Rebel scum?
I believe everyone is a "rebel scum" hahahah.... just kidding
So, to the part of my post that got cut in your reply: Would these specialty
bricks fall within the Educational & Dacta line?
Got a little greedy with the snips..
It appears that from whats in the wild now its an Educational/Dacta line. I would
like to see it based on if you can buy it or not free or not its at the very
least only here for Archive purposes. Selling/Buying rights should be a trigger
that BL LEGO pulls. I do realize that above statement slightly comes off different
than the original post but I'm factoring in a little what some of the Other
people posted which actually all are 100% points. I do value pushback when I
may have overlooked so maybe it does belong here but I hope the powers at be
do what they can to keep it in a way that can be less abusive than its typical
from the past.
I will just shut my mouth and I apologize if my post might be off the rails a
little. I try not to get to crazy but for some reason this just hit a nerve.
I don't think it was "off the rails" You obviously feel strongly about this
subject, and that's never a bad thing.
In any case, I enjoy your plain speak or frankness. Han Solo has always been
my favorite Star Wars character
I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.
Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL? (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)
And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)
——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here
While I have no Horse in this race. I personally DO not only NOT want to see
these on Bricklink but anyone SELLING them should get an Arrow to the Knee. The
Purpose of these are for Blind Children, Not so there is a Scummy market of third
party sellers making a profit and I know we have a few here that would do it.
If BL had some better management to address LEGO in the Buying side verse History
Archive I'd say it would be here for History reference without an option
to buy.
End of Line......
I will volunteer as devil's advocate I guess...
I am talking about a VERY small number of cases here, but what is to happen to
these gotten-for-free Braille bricks when the recipients no longer need or want
them? Is the gift conditional such that they cannot leave their possession? Maybe
they ought to be returned to LEGO to be redistributed, perhaps. Or maybe the
recipient has been so delighted by the experience that they find a marketplace
where they can pass them along to another deserving soul, while earning a fair
return for their time to do so. I don't know the answers, obviously.
I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.
Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL? (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)
And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)
——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here
While I have no Horse in this race. I personally DO not only NOT want to see
these on Bricklink but anyone SELLING them should get an Arrow to the Knee. The
Purpose of these are for Blind Children, Not so there is a Scummy market of third
party sellers making a profit and I know we have a few here that would do it.
If BL had some better management to address LEGO in the Buying side verse History
Archive I'd say it would be here for History reference without an option
to buy.
End of Line......
I will volunteer as devil's advocate I guess...
I am talking about a VERY small number of cases here, but what is to happen to
these gotten-for-free Braille bricks when the recipients no longer need or want
them? Is the gift conditional such that they cannot leave their possession? Maybe
they ought to be returned to LEGO to be redistributed, perhaps. Or maybe the
recipient has been so delighted by the experience that they find a marketplace
where they can pass them along to another deserving soul, while earning a fair
return for their time to do so. I don't know the answers, obviously.
Valid and reasonable scenario.
Not sure you needed to qualify your position with "I will volunteer as devil's
advocate I guess" and "I am talking about a VERY small number of cases here"
I understand why you did, though. I'm starting to get it myself, that the
"devil" in your devil's advocate position might be your "fair return" phrase.
I should know better; profit-bad! In some minds, anyway
I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.
Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL? (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)
And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)
——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here
While I have no Horse in this race. I personally DO not only NOT want to see
these on Bricklink but anyone SELLING them should get an Arrow to the Knee. The
Purpose of these are for Blind Children, Not so there is a Scummy market of third
party sellers making a profit and I know we have a few here that would do it.
If BL had some better management to address LEGO in the Buying side verse History
Archive I'd say it would be here for History reference without an option
to buy.
End of Line......
I will volunteer as devil's advocate I guess...
I am talking about a VERY small number of cases here, but what is to happen to
these gotten-for-free Braille bricks when the recipients no longer need or want
them? Is the gift conditional such that they cannot leave their possession? Maybe
they ought to be returned to LEGO to be redistributed, perhaps. Or maybe the
recipient has been so delighted by the experience that they find a marketplace
where they can pass them along to another deserving soul, while earning a fair
return for their time to do so. I don't know the answers, obviously.
Valid and reasonable scenario.
Not sure you needed to qualify your position with "I will volunteer as devil's
advocate I guess" and "I am talking about a VERY small number of cases here"
You're probably right, maybe the phrase is used too loosely in general.
I understand why you did, though. I'm starting to get it myself, that the
"devil" in your devil's advocate position might be your "fair return" phrase.
I should know better; profit-bad! In some minds, anyway
I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.
Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL? (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)
And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)
——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here
While I have no Horse in this race. I personally DO not only NOT want to see
these on Bricklink but anyone SELLING them should get an Arrow to the Knee. The
Purpose of these are for Blind Children, Not so there is a Scummy market of third
party sellers making a profit and I know we have a few here that would do it.
If BL had some better management to address LEGO in the Buying side verse History
Archive I'd say it would be here for History reference without an option
to buy.
End of Line......
They will definitely be on sale on other marketplaces, so there will always be
people profiting from these.
IMO, if they are LEGO, then they should have a spot in the catalog.
And having them for sale is also a way of getting them to kids that can't
get them from LEGO itself.
Maybe a crazy/stupid(?) idea, but what about setting them to a fixed (cheap)
price on BL?
Sellers that want to help getting them spread all over the world can put them
up for sale, while buyers that need them (or want to donate them) don't have
to pay ridiculous prices.
"Scummy market" sellers aren't encouraged anymore for selling them here,
since they can't make any (big) profit.
I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.
Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL? (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)
And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)
——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here
While I have no Horse in this race. I personally DO not only NOT want to see
these on Bricklink but anyone SELLING them should get an Arrow to the Knee. The
Purpose of these are for Blind Children, Not so there is a Scummy market of third
party sellers making a profit and I know we have a few here that would do it.
If BL had some better management to address LEGO in the Buying side verse History
Archive I'd say it would be here for History reference without an option
to buy.
End of Line......
They will definitely be on sale on other marketplaces, so there will always be
people profiting from these.
IMO, if they are LEGO, then they should have a spot in the catalog.
And having them for sale is also a way of getting them to kids that can't
get them from LEGO itself.
Maybe a crazy/stupid(?) idea, but what about setting them to a fixed (cheap)
price on BL?
I think that would be illegal.
Sellers that want to help getting them spread all over the world can put them
up for sale, while buyers that need them (or want to donate them) don't have
to pay ridiculous prices.
"Scummy market" sellers aren't encouraged anymore for selling them here,
since they can't make any (big) profit.
They will definitely be on sale on other marketplaces, so there will always be
people profiting from these.
Like the Osprey.
Like business card minifigs.
IMO, if they are LEGO, then they should have a spot in the catalog.
Like the Osprey.
Like business card minifigs.
And having them for sale is also a way of getting them to kids that can't
get them from LEGO itself.
Like the Osprey.
Like business card minifigs.
Lego / BL have already made the decision to exclude a product sold through some
regular retail channels or given away so adding other products that are strictly
not for sale would seem odd.
Although of course like the Osprey people are getting round it by listing custom
lots. I note there is still one for sale here.
is in the catalog, after being recalled but a few were sold through retail and
so it was allowed to be added here and sold......
In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
They will definitely be on sale on other marketplaces, so there will always be
people profiting from these.
Like the Osprey.
Like business card minifigs.
IMO, if they are LEGO, then they should have a spot in the catalog.
Like the Osprey.
Like business card minifigs.
And having them for sale is also a way of getting them to kids that can't
get them from LEGO itself.
Like the Osprey.
Like business card minifigs.
Lego / BL have already made the decision to exclude a product sold through some
regular retail channels or given away so adding other products that are strictly
not for sale would seem odd.
Although of course like the Osprey people are getting round it by listing custom
lots. I note there is still one for sale here.
They will definitely be on sale on other marketplaces, so there will always be
people profiting from these.
Like the Osprey.
Like business card minifigs.
IMO, if they are LEGO, then they should have a spot in the catalog.
Like the Osprey.
Like business card minifigs.
And having them for sale is also a way of getting them to kids that can't
get them from LEGO itself.
Like the Osprey.
Like business card minifigs.
Lego / BL have already made the decision to exclude a product sold through some
regular retail channels or given away so adding other products that are strictly
not for sale would seem odd.
Although of course like the Osprey people are getting round it by listing custom
lots. I note there is still one for sale here.
The Osprey is going to be in the Catalogue, just not now.
Braille Bricks could be the same, not day 1 entries but get added in a year or
two when they ere flowing through the world.
They will definitely be on sale on other marketplaces, so there will always be
people profiting from these.
IMO, if they are LEGO, then they should have a spot in the catalog.
And having them for sale is also a way of getting them to kids that can't
get them from LEGO itself.
Maybe a crazy/stupid(?) idea, but what about setting them to a fixed (cheap)
price on BL?
Sellers that want to help getting them spread all over the world can put them
up for sale, while buyers that need them (or want to donate them) don't have
to pay ridiculous prices.
"Scummy market" sellers aren't encouraged anymore for selling them here,
since they can't make any (big) profit.
So, people buy them here on Bricklink for a handful of pennies and sell them
on eBay for a handful of dollars. Sounds like a great business model to me!
They will definitely be on sale on other marketplaces, so there will always be
people profiting from these.
IMO, if they are LEGO, then they should have a spot in the catalog.
And having them for sale is also a way of getting them to kids that can't
get them from LEGO itself.
Maybe a crazy/stupid(?) idea, but what about setting them to a fixed (cheap)
price on BL?
Sellers that want to help getting them spread all over the world can put them
up for sale, while buyers that need them (or want to donate them) don't have
to pay ridiculous prices.
"Scummy market" sellers aren't encouraged anymore for selling them here,
since they can't make any (big) profit.
So, people buy them here on Bricklink for a handful of pennies and sell them
on eBay for a handful of dollars. Sounds like a great business model to me!
Yeah, I know.. Like I said, stupid idea.
Should've just gone to bed instead of posting this..
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