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| | | Author: | primadeluxe  | | Posted: | Jun 28, 2020 04:25 | | Subject: | Number bricks: which is which | | Viewed: | 169 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Can someone help me identify these number bricks, because in de catalog there
are three different entries, I have three different bricks, but they do not look
the same. And they have two different logo on the stud. See attached pictures.
Thanks!
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| | | | | Author: | Edwin073 | | Posted: | Jun 28, 2020 04:46 | | Subject: | Re: Number bricks: which is which | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Can someone help me identify these number bricks, because in de catalog there
are three different entries, I have three different bricks, but they do not look
the same. And they have two different logo on the stud. See attached pictures.
Thanks!
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Hello,
Maybe this helps?
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=brick%201x1%209#T=P
Greetings Edwin
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| | | | | | | Author: | primadeluxe | | Posted: | Jun 28, 2020 05:17 | | Subject: | Re: Number bricks: which is which | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Thanks! Left is 3005pt9b, right is 3005pt9s, but the middle one? Does not look
the same as 3005pt9?
In Help, Edwin073 writes:
| | In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Can someone help me identify these number bricks, because in de catalog there
are three different entries, I have three different bricks, but they do not look
the same. And they have two different logo on the stud. See attached pictures.
Thanks!
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Hello,
Maybe this helps?
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=brick%201x1%209#T=P
Greetings Edwin
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | primadeluxe | | Posted: | Jun 28, 2020 05:45 | | Subject: | Re: Number bricks: which is which | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| The images in the inventory of part 3005pt9s and 3005pt9 do look a lot the same.
Is there any difference between them or has one just the wrong image?
In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Thanks! Left is 3005pt9b, right is 3005pt9s, but the middle one? Does not look
the same as 3005pt9?
In Help, Edwin073 writes:
| | In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Can someone help me identify these number bricks, because in de catalog there
are three different entries, I have three different bricks, but they do not look
the same. And they have two different logo on the stud. See attached pictures.
Thanks!
|
Hello,
Maybe this helps?
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=brick%201x1%209#T=P
Greetings Edwin
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Jun 28, 2020 07:14 | | Subject: | Re: Number bricks: which is which | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | The images in the inventory of part 3005pt9s and 3005pt9 do look a lot the same.
Is there any difference between them or has one just the wrong image?
In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Thanks! Left is 3005pt9b, right is 3005pt9s, but the middle one? Does not look
the same as 3005pt9?
In Help, Edwin073 writes:
| | In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Can someone help me identify these number bricks, because in de catalog there
are three different entries, I have three different bricks, but they do not look
the same. And they have two different logo on the stud. See attached pictures.
Thanks!
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Hello,
Maybe this helps?
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=brick%201x1%209#T=P
Greetings Edwin
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is the bold font (NL: 'vetgedrukt' ) as in the left in your
picture,
is the serif font (NL: 'met schreef' ) as in the right in
your picture.
is neither bold nor with serif, so must be the middle one in your
picture. It's image is a render, not a photo. This may explain why it looks
differently. Looking at the part numbering, it may have originally been intended
as the non-distinguished variety, but seeing your picture, it must be the plain
(thin) variety.
Can you upload your image as an additional image for these parts? I think it
is enlightening to see the bricks side by side for comparison.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | primadeluxe | | Posted: | Jun 28, 2020 14:28 | | Subject: | Re: Number bricks: which is which | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I think the serif number bricks (3005pt{number}s) should be appear in the 3 sets
487, 437 and 237 and not the ones which are know appearing (3005pt{number}).
Looking at the pictures of these sets, it would make sence, also because the
serif bricks have both the modern logo (appears in 1968) and old logo (appears
in 1958) on the studs.
The number bricks of my picture only have the modern logo on the stud and from
which sets they are I do not know. I have looked at a lot of pictures of sets
with numbered bricks, but did not find one with the bricks on my picture. So
they could easely be the 3005pt{number} bricks.
In Help, hpoort writes:
| | In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | The images in the inventory of part 3005pt9s and 3005pt9 do look a lot the same.
Is there any difference between them or has one just the wrong image?
In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Thanks! Left is 3005pt9b, right is 3005pt9s, but the middle one? Does not look
the same as 3005pt9?
In Help, Edwin073 writes:
| | In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Can someone help me identify these number bricks, because in de catalog there
are three different entries, I have three different bricks, but they do not look
the same. And they have two different logo on the stud. See attached pictures.
Thanks!
|
Hello,
Maybe this helps?
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=brick%201x1%209#T=P
Greetings Edwin
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is the bold font (NL: 'vetgedrukt' ) as in the left in your
picture,
is the serif font (NL: 'met schreef' ) as in the right in
your picture.
is neither bold nor with serif, so must be the middle one in your
picture. It's image is a render, not a photo. This may explain why it looks
differently. Looking at the part numbering, it may have originally been intended
as the non-distinguished variety, but seeing your picture, it must be the plain
(thin) variety.
Can you upload your image as an additional image for these parts? I think it
is enlightening to see the bricks side by side for comparison.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | primadeluxe | | Posted: | Jun 28, 2020 15:11 | | Subject: | Re: Number bricks: which is which | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Within the serif numbered bricks (3005pt{number}s) I found also some difference
in the print. See picture. For example number 6: right in the picture has an
old logo on the stud and the two on the left have modern and old logo on the
stud, but I think this are just variations.
So maybe a reshuffle of the images, variantions and sets appearing is in order.
Also looking at set 237, because the bold numbered bricks could not be a alternate
for this set. The bold numbers all have a modern logo (1968) and yet in 1966
the set 237 (1960) was replaced by set 437. So the bold numbered bricks could
be a alternate for set 437, but not for set 237.
In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | I think the serif number bricks (3005pt{number}s) should be appear in the 3 sets
487, 437 and 237 and not the ones which are know appearing (3005pt{number}).
Looking at the pictures of these sets, it would make sence, also because the
serif bricks have both the modern logo (appears in 1968) and old logo (appears
in 1958) on the studs.
The number bricks of my picture only have the modern logo on the stud and from
which sets they are I do not know. I have looked at a lot of pictures of sets
with numbered bricks, but did not find one with the bricks on my picture. So
they could easely be the 3005pt{number} bricks.
In Help, hpoort writes:
| | In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | The images in the inventory of part 3005pt9s and 3005pt9 do look a lot the same.
Is there any difference between them or has one just the wrong image?
In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Thanks! Left is 3005pt9b, right is 3005pt9s, but the middle one? Does not look
the same as 3005pt9?
In Help, Edwin073 writes:
| | In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Can someone help me identify these number bricks, because in de catalog there
are three different entries, I have three different bricks, but they do not look
the same. And they have two different logo on the stud. See attached pictures.
Thanks!
|
Hello,
Maybe this helps?
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=brick%201x1%209#T=P
Greetings Edwin
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|
is the bold font (NL: 'vetgedrukt' ) as in the left in your
picture,
is the serif font (NL: 'met schreef' ) as in the right in
your picture.
is neither bold nor with serif, so must be the middle one in your
picture. It's image is a render, not a photo. This may explain why it looks
differently. Looking at the part numbering, it may have originally been intended
as the non-distinguished variety, but seeing your picture, it must be the plain
(thin) variety.
Can you upload your image as an additional image for these parts? I think it
is enlightening to see the bricks side by side for comparison.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | primadeluxe | | Posted: | Jun 30, 2020 03:39 | | Subject: | Re: Number bricks: which is which | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| To come back on the serif numbered bricks (3005pt{number}s) the variations in
print are due to the material (CA, ABS) and the mold pip (edge, side):
1. CA with old logo and edge mold pip (around 1958-1963). Old logo is wide straight.
2. ABS with old logo and edge mold pip (around 1963-1968). Old logo is wide round.
3. ABS with modern logo and side mold pip (around 1968-......)
See pictures.
This also explains the variantion in the print, which are in all the 3 cases
embossed. The 3005pt{number} is also embossed and the 3005pt{number}b has a surface
print.
In Catalog Identification, primadeluxe writes:
| | Within the serif numbered bricks (3005pt{number}s) I found also some difference
in the print. See picture. For example number 6: right in the picture has an
old logo on the stud and the two on the left have modern and old logo on the
stud, but I think this are just variations.
So maybe a reshuffle of the images, variantions and sets appearing is in order.
Also looking at set 237, because the bold numbered bricks could not be a alternate
for this set. The bold numbers all have a modern logo (1968) and yet in 1966
the set 237 (1960) was replaced by set 437. So the bold numbered bricks could
be a alternate for set 437, but not for set 237.
In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | I think the serif number bricks (3005pt{number}s) should be appear in the 3 sets
487, 437 and 237 and not the ones which are know appearing (3005pt{number}).
Looking at the pictures of these sets, it would make sence, also because the
serif bricks have both the modern logo (appears in 1968) and old logo (appears
in 1958) on the studs.
The number bricks of my picture only have the modern logo on the stud and from
which sets they are I do not know. I have looked at a lot of pictures of sets
with numbered bricks, but did not find one with the bricks on my picture. So
they could easely be the 3005pt{number} bricks.
In Help, hpoort writes:
| | In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | The images in the inventory of part 3005pt9s and 3005pt9 do look a lot the same.
Is there any difference between them or has one just the wrong image?
In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Thanks! Left is 3005pt9b, right is 3005pt9s, but the middle one? Does not look
the same as 3005pt9?
In Help, Edwin073 writes:
| | In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Can someone help me identify these number bricks, because in de catalog there
are three different entries, I have three different bricks, but they do not look
the same. And they have two different logo on the stud. See attached pictures.
Thanks!
|
Hello,
Maybe this helps?
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=brick%201x1%209#T=P
Greetings Edwin
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|
is the bold font (NL: 'vetgedrukt' ) as in the left in your
picture,
is the serif font (NL: 'met schreef' ) as in the right in
your picture.
is neither bold nor with serif, so must be the middle one in your
picture. It's image is a render, not a photo. This may explain why it looks
differently. Looking at the part numbering, it may have originally been intended
as the non-distinguished variety, but seeing your picture, it must be the plain
(thin) variety.
Can you upload your image as an additional image for these parts? I think it
is enlightening to see the bricks side by side for comparison.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | primadeluxe | | Posted: | Jul 2, 2020 04:48 | | Subject: | Re: Number bricks: which is which | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Recap see picture!
In Catalog Identification, primadeluxe writes:
| | To come back on the serif numbered bricks (3005pt{number}s) the variations in
print are due to the material (CA, ABS) and the mold pip (edge, side):
1. CA with old logo and edge mold pip (around 1958-1963). Old logo is wide straight.
2. ABS with old logo and edge mold pip (around 1963-1968). Old logo is wide round.
3. ABS with modern logo and side mold pip (around 1968-......)
See pictures.
This also explains the variantion in the print, which are in all the 3 cases
embossed. The 3005pt{number} is also embossed and the 3005pt{number}b has a surface
print.
In Catalog Identification, primadeluxe writes:
| | Within the serif numbered bricks (3005pt{number}s) I found also some difference
in the print. See picture. For example number 6: right in the picture has an
old logo on the stud and the two on the left have modern and old logo on the
stud, but I think this are just variations.
So maybe a reshuffle of the images, variantions and sets appearing is in order.
Also looking at set 237, because the bold numbered bricks could not be a alternate
for this set. The bold numbers all have a modern logo (1968) and yet in 1966
the set 237 (1960) was replaced by set 437. So the bold numbered bricks could
be a alternate for set 437, but not for set 237.
In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | I think the serif number bricks (3005pt{number}s) should be appear in the 3 sets
487, 437 and 237 and not the ones which are know appearing (3005pt{number}).
Looking at the pictures of these sets, it would make sence, also because the
serif bricks have both the modern logo (appears in 1968) and old logo (appears
in 1958) on the studs.
The number bricks of my picture only have the modern logo on the stud and from
which sets they are I do not know. I have looked at a lot of pictures of sets
with numbered bricks, but did not find one with the bricks on my picture. So
they could easely be the 3005pt{number} bricks.
In Help, hpoort writes:
| | In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | The images in the inventory of part 3005pt9s and 3005pt9 do look a lot the same.
Is there any difference between them or has one just the wrong image?
In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Thanks! Left is 3005pt9b, right is 3005pt9s, but the middle one? Does not look
the same as 3005pt9?
In Help, Edwin073 writes:
| | In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Can someone help me identify these number bricks, because in de catalog there
are three different entries, I have three different bricks, but they do not look
the same. And they have two different logo on the stud. See attached pictures.
Thanks!
|
Hello,
Maybe this helps?
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=brick%201x1%209#T=P
Greetings Edwin
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is the bold font (NL: 'vetgedrukt' ) as in the left in your
picture,
is the serif font (NL: 'met schreef' ) as in the right in
your picture.
is neither bold nor with serif, so must be the middle one in your
picture. It's image is a render, not a photo. This may explain why it looks
differently. Looking at the part numbering, it may have originally been intended
as the non-distinguished variety, but seeing your picture, it must be the plain
(thin) variety.
Can you upload your image as an additional image for these parts? I think it
is enlightening to see the bricks side by side for comparison.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | primadeluxe | | Posted: | Jul 2, 2020 05:32 | | Subject: | Re: Number bricks: which is which | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I have submitted all my thoughts into changes for brick number 9. If approved
and entered these changes also apply for the other numbers!
In Catalog Identification, primadeluxe writes:
| | Recap see picture!
In Catalog Identification, primadeluxe writes:
| | To come back on the serif numbered bricks (3005pt{number}s) the variations in
print are due to the material (CA, ABS) and the mold pip (edge, side):
1. CA with old logo and edge mold pip (around 1958-1963). Old logo is wide straight.
2. ABS with old logo and edge mold pip (around 1963-1968). Old logo is wide round.
3. ABS with modern logo and side mold pip (around 1968-......)
See pictures.
This also explains the variantion in the print, which are in all the 3 cases
embossed. The 3005pt{number} is also embossed and the 3005pt{number}b has a surface
print.
In Catalog Identification, primadeluxe writes:
| | Within the serif numbered bricks (3005pt{number}s) I found also some difference
in the print. See picture. For example number 6: right in the picture has an
old logo on the stud and the two on the left have modern and old logo on the
stud, but I think this are just variations.
So maybe a reshuffle of the images, variantions and sets appearing is in order.
Also looking at set 237, because the bold numbered bricks could not be a alternate
for this set. The bold numbers all have a modern logo (1968) and yet in 1966
the set 237 (1960) was replaced by set 437. So the bold numbered bricks could
be a alternate for set 437, but not for set 237.
In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | I think the serif number bricks (3005pt{number}s) should be appear in the 3 sets
487, 437 and 237 and not the ones which are know appearing (3005pt{number}).
Looking at the pictures of these sets, it would make sence, also because the
serif bricks have both the modern logo (appears in 1968) and old logo (appears
in 1958) on the studs.
The number bricks of my picture only have the modern logo on the stud and from
which sets they are I do not know. I have looked at a lot of pictures of sets
with numbered bricks, but did not find one with the bricks on my picture. So
they could easely be the 3005pt{number} bricks.
In Help, hpoort writes:
| | In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | The images in the inventory of part 3005pt9s and 3005pt9 do look a lot the same.
Is there any difference between them or has one just the wrong image?
In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Thanks! Left is 3005pt9b, right is 3005pt9s, but the middle one? Does not look
the same as 3005pt9?
In Help, Edwin073 writes:
| | In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Can someone help me identify these number bricks, because in de catalog there
are three different entries, I have three different bricks, but they do not look
the same. And they have two different logo on the stud. See attached pictures.
Thanks!
|
Hello,
Maybe this helps?
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=brick%201x1%209#T=P
Greetings Edwin
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|
is the bold font (NL: 'vetgedrukt' ) as in the left in your
picture,
is the serif font (NL: 'met schreef' ) as in the right in
your picture.
is neither bold nor with serif, so must be the middle one in your
picture. It's image is a render, not a photo. This may explain why it looks
differently. Looking at the part numbering, it may have originally been intended
as the non-distinguished variety, but seeing your picture, it must be the plain
(thin) variety.
Can you upload your image as an additional image for these parts? I think it
is enlightening to see the bricks side by side for comparison.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2022 04:40 | | Subject: | Re: Number bricks: which is which | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
| | I think the serif number bricks (3005pt{number}s) should be appear in the 3 sets
487, 437 and 237 and not the ones which are know appearing (3005pt{number}).
Looking at the pictures of these sets, it would make sence, also because the
serif bricks have both the modern logo (appears in 1968) and old logo (appears
in 1958) on the studs.
The number bricks of my picture only have the modern logo on the stud and from
which sets they are I do not know. I have looked at a lot of pictures of sets
with numbered bricks, but did not find one with the bricks on my picture. So
they could easely be the 3005pt{number} bricks.
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You did a hell of a job, THANKS !!
I wanted to do this check and add images back in 2009 already, together with
the 'Bricks with Letters', but didn't have the time. When I noticed
a lot if images were overwritten by render images, I didn't want to waist
my precious time.
Seeing your change requests and this post, I spend my saturday checking my supplemental
boxes and your requests.
For those reading this, since Primadeluxe did all the research,
imo he deserves the credits for adding bricks and change inventories. So please
give him a chance first.
The Inventories of Supplemental Boxes with 'Numbered Bricks' and 'Bricks
with Letters' are quite a mess. I'm pretty sure the main reason for this
is those render images, wrong blue colors and types that are not in the catalog
yet. Misleading images on boxes and leaflets didn't help either.
There are 5 different types, 2 of them are very much alike though. The Bricklink
Catalog only has 3 types. It's missing the ones on your image below.
These bricks are from UK/AUS only and appear in set
and as an alternate in the set below with 'Made in Great Brittain' Boxes
from 1960-1965
These bricks should be added to the catalog. I hope you want to do that.
Sticking with number '9' as an example, I would:
- number them 3005pt9UK and
- name them 'Brick 1 x 1 with Blue Number 9 Pattern (UK/AUS)' and
- add a note: only released in UK/AUS (1960-1972)
After approval you can add them as alternate in set 237-1 and submit a change
request for set 437-1 by changing all 10 from 30053005pt9 to 3005pt9UK.
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In Help, hpoort writes:
| | In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | The images in the inventory of part 3005pt9s and 3005pt9 do look a lot the same.
Is there any difference between them or has one just the wrong image?
In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Thanks! Left is 3005pt9b, right is 3005pt9s, but the middle one? Does not look
the same as 3005pt9?
In Help, Edwin073 writes:
| | In Help, primadeluxe writes:
| | Can someone help me identify these number bricks, because in de catalog there
are three different entries, I have three different bricks, but they do not look
the same. And they have two different logo on the stud. See attached pictures.
Thanks!
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Hello,
Maybe this helps?
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=brick%201x1%209#T=P
Greetings Edwin
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is the bold font (NL: 'vetgedrukt' ) as in the left in your
picture,
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these only appear in set
bold, lighter blue and surface print
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your picture.
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these only appear in
there are actually 2 types of this one, but the difference is hard to tell.
These appear in Kliklok boxes (1963-1965) of set
and in set
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picture. It's image is a render, not a photo. This may explain why it looks
differently. Looking at the part numbering, it may have originally been intended
as the non-distinguished variety, but seeing your picture, it must be the plain
(thin) variety.
Can you upload your image as an additional image for these parts? I think it
is enlightening to see the bricks side by side for comparison.
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Type 1: 3005pt9s : 237-1 sleeve box
Type 2: 3005pt9 : 237-1 kliklok box
Type 3: 3005pt9 : 487-2
Type 4: 3005pt9UK: 437-1 and 237-1
Type 5: 3005pt9b : 987-1
Type 1, 2 and 3 are all Serif Font (1. thick, 2. thinner, 3. thin) also some
difference in shade (hard to catch this on images though). All Blue embossed
print.
Type 4 is Sans Serif Thin, bigger embossed blue prints
Type 5 is Sans Serif Bold, lighter blue surface prints
Just thinking about that very first type of these bricks 3005pt9s
- 1960 born
- 2018 added to the catalog
- 2020 change requests to add them to set inventories
- 2022 changed from unknown parts to actually turn up in inventories of the oldest
sets
Just noticed it and wanted to share 
also see change requests:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=270758
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=270759
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=270760
Diana
PS: after the inventories are correct, we should be thinking about replacing
render images and maybe rename bricks, but it's better to ask our Catalog
Associate first, before doing this
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