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 Author: chetzler View Messages Posted By chetzler
 Posted: Jan 14, 2020 21:31
 Subject: Multipacks as one inventory item?
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chetzler (2316)

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I know this is going to open a can of worms and probably get some people agitated.
But can someone refresh me on the point of adding multipacks (such a as

 
Part No: 36083  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
* 
36083 (Inv) Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

) as a single inventory item? I know it was discussed as some point but I can't
find much in the forum. Was it because LEGO gives the entire thing a single
design ID? It makes extra work during part out since I have to part out the
parts after the set.
 Author: leopard37 View Messages Posted By leopard37
 Posted: Jan 14, 2020 21:51
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In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  I know this is going to open a can of worms and probably get some people agitated.
But can someone refresh me on the point of adding multipacks (such a as

 
Part No: 36083  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
* 
36083 (Inv) Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

) as a single inventory item? I know it was discussed as some point but I can't
find much in the forum. Was it because LEGO gives the entire thing a single
design ID? It makes extra work during part out since I have to part out the
parts after the set.

Especially since usually one or two parts are a part of a minifigures inventory!

Tyson.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  I know it was discussed as some point but I can't
find much in the forum.

Here is an informative thread regarding this issue:

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=246062&nID=1120706

Multipacks have been on BrickLink for over a decade:

 
Part No: 41114  Name: Scala Hay Bale (Complete Package)
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41114 (Inv) Scala Hay Bale (Complete Package)
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 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jan 15, 2020 09:05
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In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  I know this is going to open a can of worms and probably get some people agitated.
But can someone refresh me on the point of adding multipacks (such a as

 
Part No: 36083  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
* 
36083 (Inv) Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

) as a single inventory item? I know it was discussed as some point but I can't
find much in the forum. Was it because LEGO gives the entire thing a single
design ID? It makes extra work during part out since I have to part out the
parts after the set.

Yes, it is due to the fact that LEGO considers these "multipacks" (family molds)
one part for inventory purposes.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: leopard37 View Messages Posted By leopard37
 Posted: Jan 15, 2020 10:36
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  I know this is going to open a can of worms and probably get some people agitated.
But can someone refresh me on the point of adding multipacks (such a as

 
Part No: 36083  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
* 
36083 (Inv) Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

) as a single inventory item? I know it was discussed as some point but I can't
find much in the forum. Was it because LEGO gives the entire thing a single
design ID? It makes extra work during part out since I have to part out the
parts after the set.

Yes, it is due to the fact that LEGO considers these "multipacks" (family molds)
one part for inventory purposes.

Cheers,
Randy

I really think that this issue will not be solved until two types of inventory
are allowed. "What came in the box" and a "what it actually takes to build the
model". As long as the bag has an assembly that can be further parted out it
doesn't bother me as a seller.

I don't inventory things very often here, but I know that going forward (especially
with the trolls sets) that some items are used within a figure. In that case
does the remainder of the items fall under the extras category instead of the
pack appearing in the inventory?

Thanks in advance for the clarification.

Tyson.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jan 15, 2020 11:59
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In Catalog, leopard37 writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  I know this is going to open a can of worms and probably get some people agitated.
But can someone refresh me on the point of adding multipacks (such a as

 
Part No: 36083  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
* 
36083 (Inv) Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

) as a single inventory item? I know it was discussed as some point but I can't
find much in the forum. Was it because LEGO gives the entire thing a single
design ID? It makes extra work during part out since I have to part out the
parts after the set.

Yes, it is due to the fact that LEGO considers these "multipacks" (family molds)
one part for inventory purposes.

Cheers,
Randy

I really think that this issue will not be solved until two types of inventory
are allowed. "What came in the box" and a "what it actually takes to build the
model".

That is exactly correct, and I am hopeful that we will get to that point eventually.
At least, that is the plan that the volunteer admins have. Unfortunately, we
await a day when we can get some programmers assigned to our needs instead of
things like the MOC Shop, Mosaik, Studio, etc.

  As long as the bag has an assembly that can be further parted out it
doesn't bother me as a seller.

All of these family molds do have their own inventories.

  I don't inventory things very often here, but I know that going forward (especially
with the trolls sets) that some items are used within a figure. In that case
does the remainder of the items fall under the extras category instead of the
pack appearing in the inventory?

The guidelines are all spelled out here:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562

The parts you are interested in are under the "Additional Information About Regular
Items" section.

  Thanks in advance for the clarification.

No problem.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: chetzler View Messages Posted By chetzler
 Posted: Jan 15, 2020 10:38
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  I know this is going to open a can of worms and probably get some people agitated.
But can someone refresh me on the point of adding multipacks (such a as

 
Part No: 36083  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
* 
36083 (Inv) Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

) as a single inventory item? I know it was discussed as some point but I can't
find much in the forum. Was it because LEGO gives the entire thing a single
design ID? It makes extra work during part out since I have to part out the
parts after the set.

Yes, it is due to the fact that LEGO considers these "multipacks" (family molds)
one part for inventory purposes.

Cheers,
Randy

Any possibility we could get a "break multipacks into parts" option on the part
out screen? Sort of like the "Break Sets in Sets" option that currently exists
and is very useful for things like Advent calendars.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Jan 15, 2020 10:42
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In Catalog, chetzler writes:

  
Any possibility we could get a "break multipacks into parts" option on the part
out screen? Sort of like the "Break Sets in Sets" option that currently exists
and is very useful for things like Advent calendars.

That would be ideal but would require actual programming to put into place. Any
programmers work at this website?? Oh, never mind.

Jen
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
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That would be ideal but would require actual programming to put into place. Any
programmers work at this website?? Oh, never mind.

Yeah, all these discussions always end up with solutions that require programming
something.

An endless circle that reminds me of this joke:

Babysitter: “Toto, stop running in circles.“
A little while later: “Toto, stop running in circles!”
Then: “Toto, stop running in circles or I’ll nail your other foot!”
 Author: leopard37 View Messages Posted By leopard37
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In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  I know this is going to open a can of worms and probably get some people agitated.
But can someone refresh me on the point of adding multipacks (such a as

 
Part No: 36083  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
* 
36083 (Inv) Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

) as a single inventory item? I know it was discussed as some point but I can't
find much in the forum. Was it because LEGO gives the entire thing a single
design ID? It makes extra work during part out since I have to part out the
parts after the set.

Yes, it is due to the fact that LEGO considers these "multipacks" (family molds)
one part for inventory purposes.

Cheers,
Randy

Any possibility we could get a "break multipacks into parts" option on the part
out screen? Sort of like the "Break Sets in Sets" option that currently exists
and is very useful for things like Advent calendars.

I've often thought that there should be an overall part inventory for an
advent calendar so you can the parts and minifigs into stock, but that is a pure
seller standpoint.

Tyson.
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In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  I know this is going to open a can of worms and probably get some people agitated.
But can someone refresh me on the point of adding multipacks (such a as

 
Part No: 36083  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
* 
36083 (Inv) Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

) as a single inventory item? I know it was discussed as some point but I can't
find much in the forum. Was it because LEGO gives the entire thing a single
design ID? It makes extra work during part out since I have to part out the
parts after the set.

Yes, it is due to the fact that LEGO considers these "multipacks" (family molds)
one part for inventory purposes.

Cheers,
Randy

Any possibility we could get a "break multipacks into parts" option on the part
out screen? Sort of like the "Break Sets in Sets" option that currently exists
and is very useful for things like Advent calendars.

I wish I could get the programmers in place to help with this, but the volunteer
admins have had almost no access to any programming time since the site was taken
over by the last owners many years ago. Instead of focusing on increasing the
usefulness and capabilities of the main site, they focused almost solely on side
projects and gimmicks (the MOC Shop, Mosaik, Studio, etc.) We all await what
may happen with the next owners.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  I know this is going to open a can of worms and probably get some people agitated.
But can someone refresh me on the point of adding multipacks (such a as

 
Part No: 36083  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
* 
36083 (Inv) Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

) as a single inventory item? I know it was discussed as some point but I can't
find much in the forum. Was it because LEGO gives the entire thing a single
design ID? It makes extra work during part out since I have to part out the
parts after the set.

Yes, it is due to the fact that LEGO considers these "multipacks" (family molds)
one part for inventory purposes.

Cheers,
Randy

Any possibility we could get a "break multipacks into parts" option on the part
out screen? Sort of like the "Break Sets in Sets" option that currently exists
and is very useful for things like Advent calendars.

I wish I could get the programmers in place to help with this, but the volunteer
admins have had almost no access to any programming time since the site was taken
over by the last owners many years ago. Instead of focusing on increasing the
usefulness and capabilities of the main site, they focused almost solely on side
projects and gimmicks (the MOC Shop, Mosaik, Studio, etc.) We all await what
may happen with the next owners.

Cheers,
Randy

I still wonder how important those side projects and gimmicks were made to be
when the site was sold to LEGO...
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In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  I know this is going to open a can of worms and probably get some people agitated.
But can someone refresh me on the point of adding multipacks (such a as

 
Part No: 36083  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
* 
36083 (Inv) Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

) as a single inventory item? I know it was discussed as some point but I can't
find much in the forum. Was it because LEGO gives the entire thing a single
design ID? It makes extra work during part out since I have to part out the
parts after the set.

Yes, it is due to the fact that LEGO considers these "multipacks" (family molds)
one part for inventory purposes.

Cheers,
Randy

Any possibility we could get a "break multipacks into parts" option on the part
out screen? Sort of like the "Break Sets in Sets" option that currently exists
and is very useful for things like Advent calendars.

I wish I could get the programmers in place to help with this, but the volunteer
admins have had almost no access to any programming time since the site was taken
over by the last owners many years ago. Instead of focusing on increasing the
usefulness and capabilities of the main site, they focused almost solely on side
projects and gimmicks (the MOC Shop, Mosaik, Studio, etc.) We all await what
may happen with the next owners.

Cheers,
Randy

I still wonder how important those side projects and gimmicks were made to be
when the site was sold to LEGO...

Interesting question. But a question I don't think that we will ever have
an answer to, not that it matters. It does bring the possible motivation for
those projects into focus, though.
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In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  I know this is going to open a can of worms and probably get some people agitated.
But can someone refresh me on the point of adding multipacks (such a as

 
Part No: 36083  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
* 
36083 (Inv) Minifigure, Weapon Pack Spider-Man Web Effects, 9 in Bag (Multipack)
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

) as a single inventory item? I know it was discussed as some point but I can't
find much in the forum. Was it because LEGO gives the entire thing a single
design ID? It makes extra work during part out since I have to part out the
parts after the set.

Yes, it is due to the fact that LEGO considers these "multipacks" (family molds)
one part for inventory purposes.

Cheers,
Randy

Any possibility we could get a "break multipacks into parts" option on the part
out screen? Sort of like the "Break Sets in Sets" option that currently exists
and is very useful for things like Advent calendars.

I wish I could get the programmers in place to help with this, but the volunteer
admins have had almost no access to any programming time since the site was taken
over by the last owners many years ago. Instead of focusing on increasing the
usefulness and capabilities of the main site, they focused almost solely on side
projects and gimmicks (the MOC Shop, Mosaik, Studio, etc.) We all await what
may happen with the next owners.

Cheers,
Randy

I still wonder how important those side projects and gimmicks were made to be
when the site was sold to LEGO...

I think it is apparent that Studio has been a success. It is being used throughout
the AFOL community, is superior to LEGO's own LDD that was shelved a number
of years ago and continues to be developed. I do believe that LEGO sees a lot
of value in that tool. The other things, not so much.