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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Dec 25, 2019 14:28
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StormChaser (705)

Location:  USA, Oklahoma
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Store: Penultimate Harbinger
Making this a catalog request instead of a site suggestion so that I know it
will be read. All of the parts linked to below have inventories containing at
least one variable color part.

For these parts the color shown on the Part Inventory tab (which I'm defining
as the new inventory page) is (Variable Color):

 
Part No: 2878c01  Name: Train Wheel RC, Holder with Black Train Wheel Pair on Chrome Silver Metal Axle with Slots (2878 / 2879c01)
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2878c01 (Inv) Train Wheel RC, Holder with Black Train Wheel Pair on Chrome Silver Metal Axle with Slots (2878 / 2879c01)
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: 3137c01  Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Red Wheels for Single Tire
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3137c01 (Inv) Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Red Wheels for Single Tire
Parts: Wheel

Took me a little bit, but I figured out that's only because they appear in
multiple colors.

However, for other parts also inventoried with variable colors the new page shows
an actual color name because they only appear in one color:

 
Part No: 4180c01  Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 4 with Black Wheels, Train Spoked Small (23mm D.) and Black Pins (4180 / wheel3 / 2344)
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4180c01 (Inv) Brick, Modified 2 x 4 with Black Wheels, Train Spoked Small (23mm D.) and Black Pins (4180 / wheel3 / 2344)
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: 38339c01  Name: Train Wheel RC, Holder with Pin Slots with 2 Black Train Wheel RC Train with Pins (38339 / 38340)
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38339c01 (Inv) Train Wheel RC, Holder with Pin Slots with 2 Black Train Wheel RC Train with Pins (38339 / 38340)
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: 4180c04  Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 4 with Red Wheels, Train Spoked Small (23mm D.) and Red Pins (4180 / wheel3 / 2344)
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4180c04 (Inv) Brick, Modified 2 x 4 with Red Wheels, Train Spoked Small (23mm D.) and Red Pins (4180 / wheel3 / 2344)
Parts: Wheel

I'm guessing this was done on the new inventory page to make things less
confusing, but it is inaccurate. If a part is inventoried with one or more components
having variable colors, then the new page shouldn't make things more confusing
by falsely representing the inventory to contain a defined color.

Only by clicking through to the old inventory page (Item Consists Of) can you
determine if the inventory is correct, and even then you can only surmise the
existence of a variable color when there is no image and no part color listed
(the words "Variable Color" don't appear on that page).

The new inventory tab is convenient to use, but it's disappointing that it
doesn't accurately reflect variable colors in inventories.

Can this issue be corrected?
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Dec 25, 2019 14:34
 Subject: Re: Unhelpful Feature
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StormChaser (705)

Location:  USA, Oklahoma
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Store: Penultimate Harbinger
In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  Making this a catalog request

Okay, I take it back. It appears to be just some kind of bug, which is what
I originally thought. Now I'm getting variable results when I click on things.
Perhaps this could be looked into either way.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Dec 25, 2019 14:48
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StormChaser (705)

Location:  USA, Oklahoma
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Sep 10, 2002 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Penultimate Harbinger
In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  It appears to be just some kind of bug, which is what
I originally thought.

But I was being nice and thinking it might be a feature, albeit an unhelpful
feature.

Anyway, screenshots below so you know I ain't making it up. This is the
inventory of 2878c01. Sometimes I get one method of display, and sometimes I
get the other. No idea why, but I'm wondering if clicking into the old inventory
page might have some effect.
 


 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Dec 25, 2019 15:06
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Turez (47)

Location:  Germany, Niedersachsen
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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  It appears to be just some kind of bug, which is what
I originally thought.

But I was being nice and thinking it might be a feature, albeit an unhelpful
feature.

Anyway, screenshots below so you know I ain't making it up. This is the
inventory of 2878c01. Sometimes I get one method of display, and sometimes I
get the other. No idea why, but I'm wondering if clicking into the old inventory
page might have some effect.

The inventory depends on whether you have set a color or not.
 




 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Dec 25, 2019 15:24
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StormChaser (705)

Location:  USA, Oklahoma
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Store: Penultimate Harbinger
In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
  The inventory depends on whether you have set a color or not.

Aha! Very nice. I understand it now.

But I believe a problem still remains. The system should always default to the
Select Color view, or at least I should be able to tell the system to do that
if that's how I prefer to see things (and it is).

Right now the system appears to default to a specific color only when
the item appears only in that color and all items for sale are in that color.

Otherwise, it appears to always default to Select Color. I would like
it to always default to the Select Color view, or at least for me to be able
to adjust my settings that way.

Thanks very much for helping me understand why this was occurring.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Dec 25, 2019 20:11
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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
  The inventory depends on whether you have set a color or not.

Aha! Very nice. I understand it now.

But I believe a problem still remains. The system should always default to the
Select Color view, or at least I should be able to tell the system to do that
if that's how I prefer to see things (and it is).

Right now the system appears to default to a specific color only when
the item appears only in that color and all items for sale are in that color.

Otherwise, it appears to always default to Select Color. I would like
it to always default to the Select Color view, or at least for me to be able
to adjust my settings that way.

Thanks very much for helping me understand why this was occurring.

This was put into place in 2015 as a "solution" to the problem of variable color.
However, I would strongly encourage any member serious about using the catalog
to NOT use the inventories page via the tab on the current catalog detail page.
There are many errors / non sequiturs on these pages, which were slapped onto
the catalog page as an afterthought. Use the classic page via the Item Consists
Of link.