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| | | Author: | axaday  | | Posted: | Oct 11, 2019 23:12 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 1053-1 | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 2446 Red Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Standard (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 193b1 White Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thick Chin Strap - without Visor Dimples (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 3 Part Black {x77 String, Cord (Undetermined Type) to x77ac30 String, Cord Thin 30cm}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray {3650 Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (Undetermined Type) to 3650a Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (1st Version - Not Reinforced)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3044 Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - (Undetermined Underside Version) to 3044b Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - with Inside Bar}
* Change 2 Part Black {3839 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Undetermined Ends and Attachment Type to 3839b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Flat Ends, Low Attachment}
* Change 2 Part Red 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
I'm making these helmets alternates because the current listing is not a totally undetermined piece and my findings contradict the part that was known. My box says copyright 1984,1989, so there is plenty of room for a run change to explain changed helmets, especially the red ones that were not known in sets until 1987.
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Oct 11, 2019 23:14 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1053-1 | | Viewed: | 14 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 2446 Red Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Standard (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 193b1 White Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thick Chin Strap - without Visor Dimples (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 3 Part Black {x77 String, Cord (Undetermined Type) to x77ac30 String, Cord Thin 30cm}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray {3650 Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (Undetermined Type) to 3650a Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (1st Version - Not Reinforced)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3044 Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - (Undetermined Underside Version) to 3044b Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - with Inside Bar}
* Change 2 Part Black {3839 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Undetermined Ends and Attachment Type to 3839b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Flat Ends, Low Attachment}
* Change 2 Part Red 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
I'm making these helmets alternates because the current listing is not a totally undetermined piece and my findings contradict the part that was known. My box says copyright 1984,1989, so there is plenty of room for a run change to explain changed helmets, especially the red ones that were not known in sets until 1987.
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Oct 11, 2019 23:20 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1053-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| If Reza or Randy or someone can point out to me variants that I should be looking
for, I'm going to try to look over each bag before I unseal it. Not tonight,
but soon. I rather expect to find a lot of alternates in this box.
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 2446 Red Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Standard (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 193b1 White Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thick Chin Strap - without Visor Dimples (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 3 Part Black {x77 String, Cord (Undetermined Type) to x77ac30 String, Cord Thin 30cm}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray {3650 Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (Undetermined Type) to 3650a Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (1st Version - Not Reinforced)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3044 Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - (Undetermined Underside Version) to 3044b Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - with Inside Bar}
* Change 2 Part Black {3839 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Undetermined Ends and Attachment Type to 3839b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Flat Ends, Low Attachment}
* Change 2 Part Red 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
I'm making these helmets alternates because the current listing is not a totally undetermined piece and my findings contradict the part that was known. My box says copyright 1984,1989, so there is plenty of room for a run change to explain changed helmets, especially the red ones that were not known in sets until 1987.
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| | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Oct 12, 2019 00:04 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1053-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| I already see that the yellow bricks have inside supports.
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | If Reza or Randy or someone can point out to me variants that I should be looking
for, I'm going to try to look over each bag before I unseal it. Not tonight,
but soon. I rather expect to find a lot of alternates in this box.
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 2446 Red Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Standard (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 193b1 White Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thick Chin Strap - without Visor Dimples (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 3 Part Black {x77 String, Cord (Undetermined Type) to x77ac30 String, Cord Thin 30cm}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray {3650 Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (Undetermined Type) to 3650a Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (1st Version - Not Reinforced)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3044 Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - (Undetermined Underside Version) to 3044b Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - with Inside Bar}
* Change 2 Part Black {3839 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Undetermined Ends and Attachment Type to 3839b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Flat Ends, Low Attachment}
* Change 2 Part Red 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
I'm making these helmets alternates because the current listing is not a totally undetermined piece and my findings contradict the part that was known. My box says copyright 1984,1989, so there is plenty of room for a run change to explain changed helmets, especially the red ones that were not known in sets until 1987.
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| | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Oct 16, 2019 06:43 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1053-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | If Reza or Randy or someone can point out to me variants that I should be looking
for, I'm going to try to look over each bag before I unseal it. Not tonight,
but soon. I rather expect to find a lot of alternates in this box.
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 2446 Red Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Standard (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 193b1 White Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thick Chin Strap - without Visor Dimples (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 3 Part Black {x77 String, Cord (Undetermined Type) to x77ac30 String, Cord Thin 30cm}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray {3650 Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (Undetermined Type) to 3650a Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (1st Version - Not Reinforced)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3044 Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - (Undetermined Underside Version) to 3044b Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - with Inside Bar}
* Change 2 Part Black {3839 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Undetermined Ends and Attachment Type to 3839b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Flat Ends, Low Attachment}
* Change 2 Part Red 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
I'm making these helmets alternates because the current listing is not a totally undetermined piece and my findings contradict the part that was known. My box says copyright 1984,1989, so there is plenty of room for a run change to explain changed helmets, especially the red ones that were not known in sets until 1987.
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Just saw this. Cool!
1) This (black)
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(4476a should be regular and 4476b was first produced in 1985 and should thus
come as alternate)
2)Trans-clear
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3) White
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or
or
4) The catalog of what year you found in the box?
Comments: This set should not come with
as regular part. Blocked open stud head in 1984?!!
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Oct 16, 2019 07:47 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1053-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| I have gotten busy and haven't torn into the set yet, but yes. Randy and
I discussed the heads yesterday while I was at work so I looked at that when
I got home. I have solid stud heads. And mine is a 1989 release of the set.
Hard to believe the original inventory has blocked open heads and also bricks
without inner supports. But the inventory says it was from a parts list and
that's way before published PCC, so I think all the variants in the whole
set are going to be loose.
In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | If Reza or Randy or someone can point out to me variants that I should be looking
for, I'm going to try to look over each bag before I unseal it. Not tonight,
but soon. I rather expect to find a lot of alternates in this box.
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 2446 Red Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Standard (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 193b1 White Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thick Chin Strap - without Visor Dimples (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 3 Part Black {x77 String, Cord (Undetermined Type) to x77ac30 String, Cord Thin 30cm}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray {3650 Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (Undetermined Type) to 3650a Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (1st Version - Not Reinforced)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3044 Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - (Undetermined Underside Version) to 3044b Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - with Inside Bar}
* Change 2 Part Black {3839 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Undetermined Ends and Attachment Type to 3839b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Flat Ends, Low Attachment}
* Change 2 Part Red 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
I'm making these helmets alternates because the current listing is not a totally undetermined piece and my findings contradict the part that was known. My box says copyright 1984,1989, so there is plenty of room for a run change to explain changed helmets, especially the red ones that were not known in sets until 1987.
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Just saw this. Cool!
1) This (black)
or
(4476a should be regular and 4476b was first produced in 1985 and should thus
come as alternate)
2)Trans-clear
or
3) White
or
or
or
4) The catalog of what year you found in the box?
Comments: This set should not come with
as regular part. Blocked open stud head in 1984?!!
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Oct 16, 2019 11:53 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1053-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | I have gotten busy and haven't torn into the set yet, but yes. Randy and
I discussed the heads yesterday while I was at work so I looked at that when
I got home. I have solid stud heads. And mine is a 1989 release of the set.
Hard to believe the original inventory has blocked open heads and also bricks
without inner supports. But the inventory says it was from a parts list and
that's way before published PCC, so I think all the variants in the whole
set are going to be loose.
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I have the same conclusion. Generally speaking, i do not trust inventory of a
set inventoried few years ago.
How do you know your copy was released exactly in 1989? (not 1990 or later)
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | If Reza or Randy or someone can point out to me variants that I should be looking
for, I'm going to try to look over each bag before I unseal it. Not tonight,
but soon. I rather expect to find a lot of alternates in this box.
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 2446 Red Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Standard (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 193b1 White Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thick Chin Strap - without Visor Dimples (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 3 Part Black {x77 String, Cord (Undetermined Type) to x77ac30 String, Cord Thin 30cm}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray {3650 Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (Undetermined Type) to 3650a Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (1st Version - Not Reinforced)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3044 Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - (Undetermined Underside Version) to 3044b Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - with Inside Bar}
* Change 2 Part Black {3839 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Undetermined Ends and Attachment Type to 3839b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Flat Ends, Low Attachment}
* Change 2 Part Red 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
I'm making these helmets alternates because the current listing is not a totally undetermined piece and my findings contradict the part that was known. My box says copyright 1984,1989, so there is plenty of room for a run change to explain changed helmets, especially the red ones that were not known in sets until 1987.
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Just saw this. Cool!
1) This (black)
or
(4476a should be regular and 4476b was first produced in 1985 and should thus
come as alternate)
2)Trans-clear
or
3) White
or
or
or
4) The catalog of what year you found in the box?
Comments: This set should not come with
as regular part. Blocked open stud head in 1984?!!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Oct 16, 2019 12:01 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1053-1 | | Viewed: | 15 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | How do you know your copy was released exactly in 1989? (not 1990 or later)
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I don't know when it came out of the factory, but the box says c 1984, 1989.
Maybe I should say 1989 EDITION.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Oct 16, 2019 12:02 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1053-1 | | Viewed: | 15 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | How do you know your copy was released exactly in 1989? (not 1990 or later)
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Turez actually said a code on the box made it a 1991 sale.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Oct 16, 2019 12:05 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1053-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | How do you know your copy was released exactly in 1989? (not 1990 or later)
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Turez actually said a code on the box made it a 1991 sale.
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I don't know yet how to transform a barcode into a date 
TLG changed the box packaging in 1989, so ALL sets released before 1989, let's
say released in 198X, got a new copyright year on the box, printed like copy
right 198X and 1989."
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Oct 16, 2019 13:17 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1053-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | How do you know your copy was released exactly in 1989? (not 1990 or later)
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Turez actually said a code on the box made it a 1991 sale.
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I don't know yet how to transform a barcode into a date
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https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=251489&nID=1138914
So here we have the 33rd week 1991.
(Photo from ebay.)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Oct 16, 2019 13:20 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1053-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | How do you know your copy was released exactly in 1989? (not 1990 or later)
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Turez actually said a code on the box made it a 1991 sale.
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I don't know yet how to transform a barcode into a date
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https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=251489&nID=1138914
So here we have the 33rd week 1991.
(Photo from ebay.)
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And it is my box.
But it still has solid stud heads all the way to 1991.
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| | | | | Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Oct 12, 2019 06:52 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1053-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| Good job!
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | My box says copyright 1984,1989, so there is plenty of room for a run change to explain changed helmets, especially the red ones that were not known in sets until 1987.
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I assume you bought this set on ebay a few days ago? Photos from that listing
show batch code 3311, that would mean your copy was produced in August 1991.
| | If Reza or Randy or someone can point out to me variants that I should be looking for, I'm going to try to look over each bag before I unseal it. Not tonight, but soon. I rather expect to find a lot of alternates in this box.
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I have only three suggestions:
And I don't know if we should keep track of
There are three variants of this door pending approval for some time now:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImagePendingApproval.page?itemYear=-1&q=3861*&catType=P&sortBy=N&sortOrder=A
Regards,
Jonas
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Oct 17, 2019 11:01 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1053-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 2446 Red Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Standard (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 193b1 White Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thick Chin Strap - without Visor Dimples (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 3 Part Black {x77 String, Cord (Undetermined Type) to x77ac30 String, Cord Thin 30cm}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray {3650 Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (Undetermined Type) to 3650a Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (1st Version - Not Reinforced)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3044 Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - (Undetermined Underside Version) to 3044b Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - with Inside Bar}
* Change 2 Part Black {3839 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Undetermined Ends and Attachment Type to 3839b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Flat Ends, Low Attachment}
* Change 2 Part Red 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
I'm making these helmets alternates because the current listing is not a totally undetermined piece and my findings contradict the part that was known. My box says copyright 1984,1989, so there is plenty of room for a run change to explain changed helmets, especially the red ones that were not known in sets until 1987.
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One of these was actually a mistake that I will correct when I finish combing
through the set. I just looked at the bottom of the 3044 Slope to see what the
underside was and I paid no attention to the top to see that it isn't any
sort of 3044. It is 3048c.
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| | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Oct 17, 2019 22:53 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1053-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| Scratch that. It's both.
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 2446 Red Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Standard (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 193b1 White Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thick Chin Strap - without Visor Dimples (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 3 Part Black {x77 String, Cord (Undetermined Type) to x77ac30 String, Cord Thin 30cm}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray {3650 Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (Undetermined Type) to 3650a Technic, Gear 24 Tooth Crown (1st Version - Not Reinforced)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3044 Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - (Undetermined Underside Version) to 3044b Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - with Inside Bar}
* Change 2 Part Black {3839 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Undetermined Ends and Attachment Type to 3839b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Handles - Flat Ends, Low Attachment}
* Change 2 Part Red 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 193au Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Old with Thin Chin Strap - Visor Dimple Presence Undetermined {match ID 0 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
I'm making these helmets alternates because the current listing is not a totally undetermined piece and my findings contradict the part that was known. My box says copyright 1984,1989, so there is plenty of room for a run change to explain changed helmets, especially the red ones that were not known in sets until 1987.
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One of these was actually a mistake that I will correct when I finish combing
through the set. I just looked at the bottom of the 3044 Slope to see what the
underside was and I paid no attention to the top to see that it isn't any
sort of 3044. It is 3048c.
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