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 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: Mar 21, 2024 20:55
 Subject: Question about sets in studio
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I noticed that the studio terms say that you can’t post creations of sets released
by LEGO.
Is that a no LEGO sets at all, or a no direct copies that you can make money
off of?

No piggybacking on Intellectual Property (IP) that is not your own – This includes
using brand names, trademarks, and reference numbers in the title, description,
tags, image, or your username in order to draw attention to your design. If IP
you do not own is used in this way, your design may be set to Display mode by
our moderation team. Copies of existing LEGO® sets are also considered an infraction
under this rule.

Also it says no brand names yet on the published studio creations I see dozens
of brand name cars, and movie based creations.

What’s going on?!?!?
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 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Mar 22, 2024 07:53
 Subject: Re: Question about sets in studio
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In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  I noticed that the studio terms say that you can’t post creations of sets released
by LEGO.

Precision: You’re talking about the “Studio Gallery terms,” not the “Studio terms.”

For Studio itself: You can do whatever you want with Studio if you keep your
creations to yourself. And if you distribute the results (free or for a fee),
whatever the support (.io file, PDF, paper, vellum, qipu…), IP laws apply.  That’s
the same restrictions as with a pencil.


  Is that a no LEGO sets at all, or a no direct copies that you can make money
off of?
[…]
Also it says no brand names yet on the published studio creations I see dozens
of brand name cars, and movie based creations.

What’s going on?!?!?

Complete explanations:
https://studiohelp.bricklink.com/hc/en-us/articles/360042355033-Studio-Gallery-submission-guidelines

Summary/rewording:

1. There’s different levels of access:
— Private: the design is not on the Gallery.  My Studio, the place where you
upload your designs, only serves as a private repository (“in the cloud”).
— Display: the design is on the Gallery, but other members can only see images
and a 3D view.
— Full: the design is visible to all, other members can have the parts list,
can use EasyBuy, and (if you opt in) can download the .io file.

2. What’s forbidden (religion, military, violence, brands logos…) is set to Private
by the admins.

3. What’s IP protected is set to Display (or rather, is not accepted to Full). 
IP (mostly) means copyrights and trademarks.  That includes anything that says
it is, or obviously is, based on someone else’s brands or designs.

So, for official sets:
— If you build an official set in Studio and put it on the Gallery, it’ll be
Display.
— If you build a MOD of an official set (“hey, look what I built with the parts
of set XXX”), it’ll be Display.
— If you build a MOC that complements an official set (“hey, look, a 3rd floor
for modular 10xxx-1”), it’ll be Display.
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: Mar 22, 2024 10:34
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In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
  In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  I noticed that the studio terms say that you can’t post creations of sets released
by LEGO.

Precision: You’re talking about the “Studio Gallery terms,” not the “Studio terms.”

For Studio itself: You can do whatever you want with Studio if you keep your
creations to yourself. And if you distribute the results (free or for a fee),
whatever the support (.io file, PDF, paper, vellum, qipu…), IP laws apply.  That’s
the same restrictions as with a pencil.


  Is that a no LEGO sets at all, or a no direct copies that you can make money
off of?
[…]
Also it says no brand names yet on the published studio creations I see dozens
of brand name cars, and movie based creations.

What’s going on?!?!?

Complete explanations:
https://studiohelp.bricklink.com/hc/en-us/articles/360042355033-Studio-Gallery-submission-guidelines

Summary/rewording:

1. There’s different levels of access:
— Private: the design is not on the Gallery.  My Studio, the place where you
upload your designs, only serves as a private repository (“in the cloud”).
— Display: the design is on the Gallery, but other members can only see images
and a 3D view.
— Full: the design is visible to all, other members can have the parts list,
can use EasyBuy, and (if you opt in) can download the .io file.

2. What’s forbidden (religion, military, violence, brands logos…) is set to Private
by the admins.

3. What’s IP protected is set to Display (or rather, is not accepted to Full). 
IP (mostly) means copyrights and trademarks.  That includes anything that says
it is, or obviously is, based on someone else’s brands or designs.

So, for official sets:
— If you build an official set in Studio and put it on the Gallery, it’ll be
Display.
— If you build a MOD of an official set (“hey, look what I built with the parts
of set XXX”), it’ll be Display.
— If you build a MOC that complements an official set (“hey, look, a 3rd floor
for modular 10xxx-1”), it’ll be Display.

So I can publish released LEGO sets so long as no one can download them?
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  […]
So I can publish released LEGO sets so long as no one can download them?

On the Gallery, yes, you’re limited to Display only.

Elsewhere, they can be fully downloadable.  (For instance, Eurobricks & LDraw’s
OMR have some.)
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In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
  In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  […]
So I can publish released LEGO sets so long as no one can download them?

On the Gallery, yes, you’re limited to Display only.

Elsewhere, they can be fully downloadable.  (For instance, Eurobricks & LDraw’s
OMR have some.)

Ok, what about brand name cars? E.g. BMW, Honda, Mini.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Mar 22, 2024 10:50
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In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
  In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  […]
So I can publish released LEGO sets so long as no one can download them?

On the Gallery, yes, you’re limited to Display only.

Elsewhere, they can be fully downloadable.  (For instance, Eurobricks & LDraw’s
OMR have some.)

Ok, what about brand name cars? E.g. BMW, Honda, Mini.

Same.  Display only.

If you make a car and say “it’s a Mini,” even if it looks more like a potato
on a skateboard: Display only.
If you make a car and say “it’s a car,” but it looks very much like a Mini: Display
only.
If you make a car and say “it’s a car,” and doesn’t look like you copied the
design: you can opt for Full access.
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
  In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
  In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  […]
So I can publish released LEGO sets so long as no one can download them?

On the Gallery, yes, you’re limited to Display only.

Elsewhere, they can be fully downloadable.  (For instance, Eurobricks & LDraw’s
OMR have some.)

Ok, what about brand name cars? E.g. BMW, Honda, Mini.

Same.  Display only.

If you make a car and say “it’s a Mini,” even if it looks more like a potato
on a skateboard: Display only.
If you make a car and say “it’s a car,” but it looks very much like a Mini: Display
only.
If you make a car and say “it’s a car,” and doesn’t look like you copied the
design: you can opt for Full access.

Ok, is there a way to report rule brakers?
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Mar 22, 2024 11:17
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In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
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Ok, is there a way to report rule brakers?

If someone broke the set/brand rule: https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp
(But they shouldn’t have been able to break the rules as only admins can authorize
Full access.)
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In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
  In Terms and Policies, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  […]
Ok, is there a way to report rule brakers?

If someone broke the set/brand rule: https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp
(But they shouldn’t have been able to break the rules as only admins can authorize
Full access.)

Ok, good to know.