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| | | Author: | connie  | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 21:02 | | Subject: | paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 180 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| I have now had a couple international buyers that have listed their VAT ID number
at the top of the order. Bricklink does not require that a VAT invoice be printed
off and stuck on the package when this happens. My question is why do they not
have to pay VAT up front but if I order from someone internationally I have to
pay the VAT? Why can't I put in my tax ID number? This makes no sense to
me at all. ( and I am being nice in stating it this way) It is bad enough that
I have to pay US taxes when I have a sales tax number. IT has never made sense
to me that people have to pay tax when buying from a different country.
Someone needs to get this fixed. Playing the "it's not fair card"
it really isn't fair that some have to pay and some do not. No one with
a tax/VAT number should have to pay. We have waited long enough for this to
be resolved.
Connie
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| | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 21:08 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, connie writes:
| | I have now had a couple international buyers that have listed their VAT ID number
at the top of the order. Bricklink does not require that a VAT invoice be printed
off and stuck on the package when this happens. My question is why do they not
have to pay VAT up front but if I order from someone internationally I have to
pay the VAT? Why can't I put in my tax ID number? This makes no sense to
me at all. ( and I am being nice in stating it this way) It is bad enough that
I have to pay US taxes when I have a sales tax number. IT has never made sense
to me that people have to pay tax when buying from a different country.
Someone needs to get this fixed. Playing the "it's not fair card"
it really isn't fair that some have to pay and some do not. No one with
a tax/VAT number should have to pay. We have waited long enough for this to
be resolved.
Connie
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Wait what? Confused?
It's NORMAL EU Buyers may have to pay (or not) depending their amateur/pro
status when Importing (from US) and depending the amount (under 150€ IIRC).
From US buying in EU, you DON'T have to pay for ANY VAT for any reason, and
never have had too.
That's it.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 21:15 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | | From US buying in EU, you DON'T have to pay for ANY VAT for any reason, and
never have had too.
That's it.
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they might have been referring to normal sales tax (from their perspective)
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| | | | | | | Author: | connie | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 21:17 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Taxes, connie writes:
| | I have now had a couple international buyers that have listed their VAT ID number
at the top of the order. Bricklink does not require that a VAT invoice be printed
off and stuck on the package when this happens. My question is why do they not
have to pay VAT up front but if I order from someone internationally I have to
pay the VAT? Why can't I put in my tax ID number? This makes no sense to
me at all. ( and I am being nice in stating it this way) It is bad enough that
I have to pay US taxes when I have a sales tax number. IT has never made sense
to me that people have to pay tax when buying from a different country.
Someone needs to get this fixed. Playing the "it's not fair card"
it really isn't fair that some have to pay and some do not. No one with
a tax/VAT number should have to pay. We have waited long enough for this to
be resolved.
Connie
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Wait what? Confused?
It's NORMAL EU Buyers may have to pay (or not) depending their amateur/pro
status when Importing (from US) and depending the amount (under 150€ IIRC).
From US buying in EU, you DON'T have to pay for ANY VAT for any reason, and
never have had too.
That's it.
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Sorry you are wrong. Last order I got from Germany I had to pay $38.21 in tax.
Order from Singapore was $10.07 tax. Germany again tax was 6.71. I could go
on and on from all different parts of the world.
connie
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Fr0stByt3 | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 21:19 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, connie writes:
| | In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Taxes, connie writes:
| | I have now had a couple international buyers that have listed their VAT ID number
at the top of the order. Bricklink does not require that a VAT invoice be printed
off and stuck on the package when this happens. My question is why do they not
have to pay VAT up front but if I order from someone internationally I have to
pay the VAT? Why can't I put in my tax ID number? This makes no sense to
me at all. ( and I am being nice in stating it this way) It is bad enough that
I have to pay US taxes when I have a sales tax number. IT has never made sense
to me that people have to pay tax when buying from a different country.
Someone needs to get this fixed. Playing the "it's not fair card"
it really isn't fair that some have to pay and some do not. No one with
a tax/VAT number should have to pay. We have waited long enough for this to
be resolved.
Connie
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Wait what? Confused?
It's NORMAL EU Buyers may have to pay (or not) depending their amateur/pro
status when Importing (from US) and depending the amount (under 150€ IIRC).
From US buying in EU, you DON'T have to pay for ANY VAT for any reason, and
never have had too.
That's it.
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Sorry you are wrong. Last order I got from Germany I had to pay $38.21 in tax.
Order from Singapore was $10.07 tax. Germany again tax was 6.71. I could go
on and on from all different parts of the world.
connie
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I'm paying taxes on international orders. I believe I paid a hefty amount
when I ordered from Nubs not too long ago. Do you mean you're being double
taxed?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 21:21 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, connie writes:
| | In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Taxes, connie writes:
| | I have now had a couple international buyers that have listed their VAT ID number
at the top of the order. Bricklink does not require that a VAT invoice be printed
off and stuck on the package when this happens. My question is why do they not
have to pay VAT up front but if I order from someone internationally I have to
pay the VAT? Why can't I put in my tax ID number? This makes no sense to
me at all. ( and I am being nice in stating it this way) It is bad enough that
I have to pay US taxes when I have a sales tax number. IT has never made sense
to me that people have to pay tax when buying from a different country.
Someone needs to get this fixed. Playing the "it's not fair card"
it really isn't fair that some have to pay and some do not. No one with
a tax/VAT number should have to pay. We have waited long enough for this to
be resolved.
Connie
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Wait what? Confused?
It's NORMAL EU Buyers may have to pay (or not) depending their amateur/pro
status when Importing (from US) and depending the amount (under 150€ IIRC).
From US buying in EU, you DON'T have to pay for ANY VAT for any reason, and
never have had too.
That's it.
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Sorry you are wrong. Last order I got from Germany I had to pay $38.21 in tax.
Order from Singapore was $10.07 tax. Germany again tax was 6.71. I could go
on and on from all different parts of the world.
connie
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If you are sick of the taxes then don’t ship there if tax is killing profit.
I’m considering not shipping to the US thanks to the cost of shipping.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 21:25 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, connie writes:
| | In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | Wait what? Confused?
It's NORMAL EU Buyers may have to pay (or not) depending their amateur/pro
status when Importing (from US) and depending the amount (under 150€ IIRC).
From US buying in EU, you DON'T have to pay for ANY VAT for any reason, and
never have had too.
That's it.
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Sorry you are wrong. Last order I got from Germany I had to pay $38.21 in tax.
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Sales Tax.
Sales Tax is "normal" for you in USA to pay, not VAT.
You said: "but if I order from someone internationally I have to pay the
VAT?"
No, you din't have to pay any VAT.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 22:06 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | Sales Tax.
Sales Tax is "normal" for you in USA to pay, not VAT.
You said: "but if I order from someone internationally I have to pay the
VAT?"
No, you din't have to pay any VAT.
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I think Connie is complaining because BrickLink supports VAT exemptions for European
buyers with a VAT number but not sales tax exemptions for American buyers with
a sales tax number, which is a grievance some have passionately expressed in
the forum: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1268303
Connie is confusing sales tax with VAT. Americans pay sales tax; Europeans pay
VAT. Canadians pay GST/HST/PST/QST.
To Connie: Sales tax applies to everything you buy regardless of where it comes
from. Europeans still pay VAT on things they buy from other countries.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 22:09 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | | Connie is confusing sales tax with VAT. Americans pay sales tax; Europeans pay
VAT. Canadians pay GST/HST/PST/QST.
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ps here in Canada we general call it "tax" like the usa not gst/hst/pst/qst
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 22:19 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | ps here in Canada we general call it "tax" like the usa not gst/hst/pst/qst
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Indeed. I was just making fun of the number of acronyms they use. 
If someone is talking about GST/HST/PST/QST, you know they're talking about
Canada. There's no "SST/LST" here, just state and local sales tax.
Sales tax and VAT are essentially two different names for the same thing: "consumption
tax".
From Wikipedia:
Consumption taxes are usually indirect, such as a sales tax or a value-added
tax.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumption_tax
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 22:21 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 22:28 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | ps here in Canada we general call it "tax" like the usa not gst/hst/pst/qst
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Indeed. I was just making fun of the number of acronyms they use.
If someone is talking about GST/HST/PST/QST, you know they're talking about
Canada. There's no "SST/LST" here, just state and local sales tax.
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I had to pay for FD/HDD/SSHD/SSD for years!
But no LSD, never - I'm only a nerd.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 22:41 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | I had to pay for FD/HDD/SSHD/SSD for years!
But no LSD, never - I'm only a nerd.
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Wow, I didn't know they made a liquid-state drive!
I used to take LSD on my way to work every day.
Speaking of Lake Shore Drive in Chicago, of course. 
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| | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 21:44 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, connie writes:
| | I have now had a couple international buyers that have listed their VAT ID number
at the top of the order. Bricklink does not require that a VAT invoice be printed
off and stuck on the package when this happens. My question is why do they not
have to pay VAT up front but if I order from someone internationally I have to
pay the VAT? Why can't I put in my tax ID number? This makes no sense to
me at all. ( and I am being nice in stating it this way) It is bad enough that
I have to pay US taxes when I have a sales tax number. IT has never made sense
to me that people have to pay tax when buying from a different country.
Someone needs to get this fixed. Playing the "it's not fair card"
it really isn't fair that some have to pay and some do not. No one with
a tax/VAT number should have to pay. We have waited long enough for this to
be resolved.
Connie
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I couldn't follow what you mean:
Are you just referring to purchasing from others? If so, I believe you are always
charged Sales tax but you never have to pay VAT on top of sales tax. Are you
being charged VAT in addition to sales tax? If so, then I believe that is wrong
and should be fixed.
P.S. if you are exempt of paying any sales tax, that's a different story.
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| | | | | Author: | kittybrickz | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2024 00:50 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| This is a little confusing, do you mean that you are paying Minnesota state taxes
when you make purchases? I am a seller from Canada, and when I get an order from
some of the states, there is a state tax that some folks have to pay. Whether
it comes from the EU, Canada or anywhere, you live in MN so you pay taxes on
your purchases. BL collects those taxes for your state. EU folks have to display
a VAT ID for their business purposes whether you are affected by the VAT or not.
Hopefully I understood correctly and this helps a little?
Have an epic day!
---Katrina
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| | | | | | | Author: | connie | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2024 01:01 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, kittybrickz writes:
| | This is a little confusing, do you mean that you are paying Minnesota state taxes
when you make purchases? I am a seller from Canada, and when I get an order from
some of the states, there is a state tax that some folks have to pay. Whether
it comes from the EU, Canada or anywhere, you live in MN so you pay taxes on
your purchases. BL collects those taxes for your state. EU folks have to display
a VAT ID for their business purposes whether you are affected by the VAT or not.
Hopefully I understood correctly and this helps a little?
Have an epic day!
---Katrina
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I have a sales tax number which means I do NOT have to pay taxes on product for
resale. However, Bricklink has not fixed this yet and so we have to pay tax.
I do not think we should also have to pay tax when we buy internationally as
well.
So point is those with a sales tax number should not have to pay taxes anywhere.
As stated before Bricklink is suppose to fix this. They have not. So my question
was why do some international people have the option to give their VAT number
and not pay taxes and the rest of us can't.
Connie
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | TallyToyBricks | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2024 03:21 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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I have a sales tax number which means I do NOT have to pay taxes on product for
resale.
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I know this varies by state, but in Florida, retail stores do not have to accept
a Resale Certificate - therefore they charge sales tax.
| | I do not think we should also have to pay tax when we buy internationally as
well.
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Marketplaces (Ebay, BrickLink, etc) are required to collect STATE sales tax based
on the destination. In your case you are paying Minnesota Sales Tax.
| | As stated before Bricklink is suppose to fix this. They have not.
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I agree that BrickLink stated they would implement a Resale Certificate Program
- and have no idea why it is taking so long.
Joe
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2024 09:37 | | Subject: | Re: paying international VAT tax WHY | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, TallyToyBricks writes:
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I have a sales tax number which means I do NOT have to pay taxes on product for
resale.
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I know this varies by state, but in Florida, retail stores do not have to accept
a Resale Certificate - therefore they charge sales tax.
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Additionally there are steps you can take (at least in my State) to try and get
a refund for sales tax on items bought for resale. I've not actually tried
it so I'm not certain if it actually works, but the option is there.
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