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 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
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macebobo (2462)

Location:  USA, Oregon
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Store: MacsBricks
https://www.bricklink.com/storeResults.asp?stateID=24561&sortBy=2

I don't want to name the store, but if you click on the first 10 or so, you
will find it.

Their ID card shows Oregon, but the store shows California. How is this possible?
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
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In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  https://www.bricklink.com/storeResults.asp?stateID=24561&sortBy=2

I don't want to name the store, but if you click on the first 10 or so, you
will find it.

Their ID card shows Oregon, but the store shows California. How is this possible?

You can have a different store address in the management tab of your store it
just have to be in the same country as your profile address. Seems the search
of stores checks profile address not store address.

A bug indeed, please report it to the Help Desk:

https://helpdesk.bricklink.com/Main/
 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
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Location:  USA, Oregon
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In Technical Issues, Stellar writes:
  You can have a different store address in the management tab of your store it
just have to be in the same country as your profile address. Seems the search
of stores checks profile address not store address.

A bug indeed, please report it to the Help Desk:

https://helpdesk.bricklink.com/Main/

Done, thank you for confirming the bug.
 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
 Posted: Jul 31, 2023 15:48
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Location:  USA, Oregon
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Store: MacsBricks
In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  In Technical Issues, Stellar writes:
  You can have a different store address in the management tab of your store it
just have to be in the same country as your profile address. Seems the search
of stores checks profile address not store address.

A bug indeed, please report it to the Help Desk:

https://helpdesk.bricklink.com/Main/

Done, thank you for confirming the bug.

Help desk is on the ball today, I already got a reply, they are looking into
the issue.

Great job!
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Jul 31, 2023 14:38
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In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  https://www.bricklink.com/storeResults.asp?stateID=24561&sortBy=2

I don't want to name the store, but if you click on the first 10 or so, you
will find it.

Their ID card shows Oregon, but the store shows California. How is this possible?

ID card is where the member lives. If they lived close enough to the state line,
and the store premises was physically in California, I guess it could be possible.
Sales tax is determined by destination of the order, not where the store is or
where the owner lives.

Nita Rae
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Jul 31, 2023 14:45
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In Technical Issues, cosmicray writes:
  In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  https://www.bricklink.com/storeResults.asp?stateID=24561&sortBy=2

I don't want to name the store, but if you click on the first 10 or so, you
will find it.

Their ID card shows Oregon, but the store shows California. How is this possible?

ID card is where the member lives. If they lived close enough to the state line,
and the store premises was physically in California, I guess it could be possible.
Sales tax is determined by destination of the order, not where the store is or
where the owner lives.

Uhhhh ID Card depends the member's address on BrickLink AFAIK, that's
it.

There's nowhere a "shop" or "inventory" address - or that's
so brand new I don't know anything about.

And Oregon is 672 miles from California, so the State Line would be pretty wide
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
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There's nowhere a "shop" or "inventory" address - or that's
so brand new I don't know anything about.

There’s been a few posts saying “change your store address, not your user address”
or vice versa.  So there must be two addresses somewhere….


  And Oregon is 672 miles from California, so the State Line would be pretty wide


Er, you need a new map: Oregon and California do share a border
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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  There's nowhere a "shop" or "inventory" address - or that's
so brand new I don't know anything about.

There’s been a few posts saying “change your store address, not your user address”
or vice versa.  So there must be two addresses somewhere….

Lemme check this.


  
  And Oregon is 672 miles from California, so the State Line would be pretty wide


Er, you need a new map: Oregon and California do share a border

Ah yes, agreed, stupid google sometimes!
 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
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In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
  
  
  There's nowhere a "shop" or "inventory" address - or that's
so brand new I don't know anything about.

There’s been a few posts saying “change your store address, not your user address”
or vice versa.  So there must be two addresses somewhere….

Lemme check this.

Store Address at the bottom of https://www.bricklink.com/v2/mystore/management.page

ID address is on https://www.bricklink.com/pref_general.asp?rD=Y
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
  
  
  There's nowhere a "shop" or "inventory" address - or that's
so brand new I don't know anything about.

There’s been a few posts saying “change your store address, not your user address”
or vice versa.  So there must be two addresses somewhere….

Lemme check this.

Store Address at the bottom of https://www.bricklink.com/v2/mystore/management.page

ID address is on https://www.bricklink.com/pref_general.asp?rD=Y

Yes yes, didn't know!

I'm now located in Jersey Island.

Because the fresh air of course!
 Author: stranqe View Messages Posted By stranqe
 Posted: Jul 31, 2023 23:07
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In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
  
  
  There's nowhere a "shop" or "inventory" address - or that's
so brand new I don't know anything about.

There’s been a few posts saying “change your store address, not your user address”
or vice versa.  So there must be two addresses somewhere….

Lemme check this.

Store Address at the bottom of https://www.bricklink.com/v2/mystore/management.page

ID address is on https://www.bricklink.com/pref_general.asp?rD=Y

Hiya, this is my store and I am a part owner in it. Currently the majority of
the inventory and complete sets are in california but I moved to portland a few
months ago. I maintain addresses in both states but majority of the time I plan
to stay in portland now. I did not update my member address as I have seldomly
purchased on bricklink (maybe 2 orders in 3 months time). I have since updated
my member address to the correct new home address now. The store address is
still correct as of now. My partners still ship out of california mainly. I
did not intend to break any rules doing this.

I only started bricklink in march of this year and I have to tell you how un-user
friendly all of this is. Why can't the store be its own entity and not be
attached to my account? I have been on ebay and amazon for years (over 15 now)
prior and I have to say bricklink is kind of stuck in the stone ages of web development.

I hope this solves all the confusion. I did not intend to cause any issues.
The store feedback is pristine and we intend to keep it that way.

Thanks -Jerry
 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
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Location:  USA, Oregon
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Store: MacsBricks
In Technical Issues, stranqe writes:
  In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  Store Address at the bottom of https://www.bricklink.com/v2/mystore/management.page

ID address is on https://www.bricklink.com/pref_general.asp?rD=Y

Hiya, this is my store and I am a part owner in it. Currently the majority of
the inventory and complete sets are in california but I moved to portland a few
months ago. I maintain addresses in both states but majority of the time I plan
to stay in portland now. I did not update my member address as I have seldomly
purchased on bricklink (maybe 2 orders in 3 months time). I have since updated
my member address to the correct new home address now. The store address is
still correct as of now. My partners still ship out of california mainly. I
did not intend to break any rules doing this.

I only started bricklink in march of this year and I have to tell you how un-user
friendly all of this is. Why can't the store be its own entity and not be
attached to my account? I have been on ebay and amazon for years (over 15 now)
prior and I have to say bricklink is kind of stuck in the stone ages of web development.

I hope this solves all the confusion. I did not intend to cause any issues.
The store feedback is pristine and we intend to keep it that way.

Thanks -Jerry

Oh man, I feel bad. Sorry for stirring this hornets nest. I was just tracking
large stores in Oregon and when I visited your store, I noticed local pickup
in a Cali zip code, and thought it strange that the store was located in Cali
but was showing up in Oregon search results.

Maybe you could work with Bricklink to transferred this account to one of your
partners, then you could have a separate buyers only account here in Oregon?
Just trying to spit ball ways to maybe get your buying privileges back.

Agreed, BL is in the 1990-2000's era of web dev, but it works once you get
the hang of it, and fees are great when compared to Amazon and ebay.

Again, my apologies since I feel like I am the cause of this.
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Location:  USA, California
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I didn't even know my member account had its own address to be honest.
Or maybe i did and just never remembered to update it again since I rarely deal
with that part of things. But on the positive side, how you do search for "largest
stores in a state" and get stats like this? I'm curious hour our little
store that only 3 months old is on this list? so small victories? =)


In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  In Technical Issues, stranqe writes:
  In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  Store Address at the bottom of https://www.bricklink.com/v2/mystore/management.page

ID address is on https://www.bricklink.com/pref_general.asp?rD=Y

Hiya, this is my store and I am a part owner in it. Currently the majority of
the inventory and complete sets are in california but I moved to portland a few
months ago. I maintain addresses in both states but majority of the time I plan
to stay in portland now. I did not update my member address as I have seldomly
purchased on bricklink (maybe 2 orders in 3 months time). I have since updated
my member address to the correct new home address now. The store address is
still correct as of now. My partners still ship out of california mainly. I
did not intend to break any rules doing this.

I only started bricklink in march of this year and I have to tell you how un-user
friendly all of this is. Why can't the store be its own entity and not be
attached to my account? I have been on ebay and amazon for years (over 15 now)
prior and I have to say bricklink is kind of stuck in the stone ages of web development.

I hope this solves all the confusion. I did not intend to cause any issues.
The store feedback is pristine and we intend to keep it that way.

Thanks -Jerry

Oh man, I feel bad. Sorry for stirring this hornets nest. I was just tracking
large stores in Oregon and when I visited your store, I noticed local pickup
in a Cali zip code, and thought it strange that the store was located in Cali
but was showing up in Oregon search results.

Maybe you could work with Bricklink to transferred this account to one of your
partners, then you could have a separate buyers only account here in Oregon?
Just trying to spit ball ways to maybe get your buying privileges back.

Agreed, BL is in the 1990-2000's era of web dev, but it works once you get
the hang of it, and fees are great when compared to Amazon and ebay.

Again, my apologies since I feel like I am the cause of this.
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In Technical Issues, stranqe writes:
  I didn't even know my member account had its own address to be honest.
Or maybe i did and just never remembered to update it again since I rarely deal
with that part of things. But on the positive side, how you do search for "largest
stores in a state" and get stats like this? I'm curious hour our little
store that only 3 months old is on this list? so small victories? =)

It appears to be a list of stores in Oregon sorted by number of items. 258,198
items puts you at #6 in the state.
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In Technical Issues, stranqe writes:
  In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
  
  
  There's nowhere a "shop" or "inventory" address - or that's
so brand new I don't know anything about.

There’s been a few posts saying “change your store address, not your user address”
or vice versa.  So there must be two addresses somewhere….

Lemme check this.

Store Address at the bottom of https://www.bricklink.com/v2/mystore/management.page

ID address is on https://www.bricklink.com/pref_general.asp?rD=Y

Why can't the store be its own entity and not be
attached to my account? I have been on ebay and amazon for years (over 15 now)
prior and I have to say bricklink is kind of stuck in the stone ages of web development.


See my other message for the answer to that question.
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  Hiya, this is my store and I am a part owner in it. Currently the majority of
the inventory and complete sets are in california but I moved to portland a few
months ago. I maintain addresses in both states but majority of the time I plan
to stay in portland now. I did not update my member address as I have seldomly
purchased on bricklink (maybe 2 orders in 3 months time). I have since updated
my member address to the correct new home address now. The store address is
still correct as of now. My partners still ship out of california mainly. I
did not intend to break any rules doing this.

I only started bricklink in march of this year and I have to tell you how un-user
friendly all of this is. Why can't the store be its own entity and not be
attached to my account? I have been on ebay and amazon for years (over 15 now)
prior and I have to say bricklink is kind of stuck in the stone ages of web development.

I hope this solves all the confusion. I did not intend to cause any issues.
The store feedback is pristine and we intend to keep it that way.

If it is a registered business, then it might be better to have two separate
accounts - one as an individual for personal use only, and one as the business
for selling (and possibly buying) the stock belonging to the business. With no
link or swapping of stock between the two.
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In Technical Issues, stranqe writes:
  In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
  
  
  There's nowhere a "shop" or "inventory" address - or that's
so brand new I don't know anything about.

There’s been a few posts saying “change your store address, not your user address”
or vice versa.  So there must be two addresses somewhere….

Lemme check this.

Store Address at the bottom of https://www.bricklink.com/v2/mystore/management.page

ID address is on https://www.bricklink.com/pref_general.asp?rD=Y

Hiya, this is my store and I am a part owner in it. Currently the majority of
the inventory and complete sets are in california but I moved to portland a few
months ago. I maintain addresses in both states but majority of the time I plan
to stay in portland now. I did not update my member address as I have seldomly
purchased on bricklink (maybe 2 orders in 3 months time). I have since updated
my member address to the correct new home address now. The store address is
still correct as of now. My partners still ship out of california mainly. I
did not intend to break any rules doing this.

I only started bricklink in march of this year and I have to tell you how un-user
friendly all of this is. Why can't the store be its own entity and not be
attached to my account? I have been on ebay and amazon for years (over 15 now)
prior and I have to say bricklink is kind of stuck in the stone ages of web development.

I hope this solves all the confusion. I did not intend to cause any issues.
The store feedback is pristine and we intend to keep it that way.

Thanks -Jerry

Just an update for everyone (or any future readers who search and find this thread).
I had to change my personal address back to match my store address to fix everything.
So for any other store owners in a similar situation, don't cause yourself
headaches and make sure you personal and store addresses match.

I still wish my store can be it's own entity without having to be completely
reliant on a personal account. (even when the store makes a sale, the name and
address provided to the buyer in the email was my personal one which was not
ideal)

Anyhow, I digress. onward and upward. =)

-Jerry
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  I still wish my store can be it's own entity without having to be completely
reliant on a personal account. (even when the store makes a sale, the name and
address provided to the buyer in the email was my personal one which was not
ideal)

Anyhow, I digress. onward and upward. =)

-Jerry

+1 I would fully support better separating personal from business for this. I've
gotten used to knowing that thousands of random people online have access to
my full name and address anytime they place an order but if I ever move id want
to have a "fresh" start and have some privacy again but there doesn't
seem to be an option for that so i know that even if i move anyone can find exact
information about me easily just by placing an order
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In Technical Issues, SylvainLS writes:
  In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
There's nowhere a "shop" or "inventory" address - or that's
so brand new I don't know anything about.

There’s been a few posts saying “change your store address, not your user address”
or vice versa.  So there must be two addresses somewhere….


LOL, wow... didn't know this!

I confirm there's a member address and a Store Address in the Shop Settings.

We don't have this problem, we live, sleep, shower and eat around or above
our LEGO inventory, so it's the same address
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In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
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We don't have this problem, we live, sleep, shower and eat around or above
our LEGO inventory, so it's the same address

Yeww, we didn’t need to know that!
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In Technical Issues, SylvainLS writes:
  In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
We don't have this problem, we live, sleep, shower and eat around or above
our LEGO inventory, so it's the same address

Yeww, we didn’t need to know that!

And more! But I didn't detail everything.
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In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
  In Technical Issues, SylvainLS writes:
  In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
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There's nowhere a "shop" or "inventory" address - or that's
so brand new I don't know anything about.

There’s been a few posts saying “change your store address, not your user address”
or vice versa.  So there must be two addresses somewhere….


LOL, wow... didn't know this!

I confirm there's a member address and a Store Address in the Shop Settings.

We don't have this problem, we live, sleep, shower and eat around or above
our LEGO inventory, so it's the same address

This is probably involving a number of factors,

In the earliest days of BL (then BB) it was written to be an automated way to
take something that was then being done on LUGNET manually, that being the sale
of excess parts by AFOLs. It was never expected to involve mega sellers that
are more business than AFOL.

When larger sellers arose, then the address for the business became necessary,
because they had business premises. There has never been a BL paradigm for a
seller, but not a person, but many have found ways of shoehorning one into the
other.

BL has been an evolutionary development. Possibly one member that deserves special
recognition, and appreciation, is level88, which IIRC, is an allusion to a gaming
objective from a popular game of the late 1990s.

Rest well DJ

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In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
  And Oregon is 672 miles from California, so the State Line would be pretty wide


They are literally right next to each other, so Nita's hypothesis is correct
until you find that the store is located in 91604, Studio city, which is in Southern
California.

They offer local pickup in that zip code per their listings.

I wonder if they are using the Oregon address to avoid paying California's
sales tax.
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In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  […]
91604, Studio city, which is in Southern California.

Why hasn’t BL opened an office there for the Studio team?!


  […]
I wonder if they are using the Oregon address to avoid paying California's
sales tax.

Always the question when that name (or a few others) appears….
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In Technical Issues, SylvainLS writes:
  In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  […]
91604, Studio city, which is in Southern California.

Why hasn’t BL opened an office there for the Studio team?!

That would seem to be a good fit.

  
  […]
I wonder if they are using the Oregon address to avoid paying California's
sales tax.

Always the question when that name (or a few others) appears….

You mean Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon?

Alaska used to be on this list too, since Alaska doesn’t assess statewide sales
taxes. However, many of its municipalities do impose a sales tax since 2022.
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In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  In Technical Issues, SylvainLS writes:
  In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  […]
91604, Studio city, which is in Southern California.

Why hasn’t BL opened an office there for the Studio team?!

That would seem to be a good fit.

  
  […]
I wonder if they are using the Oregon address to avoid paying California's
sales tax.

Always the question when that name (or a few others) appears….

You mean Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon?

Alaska used to be on this list too, since Alaska doesn’t assess statewide sales
taxes. However, many of its municipalities do impose a sales tax since 2022.

I'm pretty sure anyone from outside the US knows where California, New York,
Florida, and Texas are. And thats about all...
 
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In Technical Issues, rtzx9r writes:
  I'm pretty sure anyone from outside the US knows where California, New York,
Florida, and Texas are. And thats about all...

Sadly, plenty in the US would look at that map and think it is correct, too.
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In Technical Issues, rtzx9r writes:
  In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  In Technical Issues, SylvainLS writes:
  In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  […]
91604, Studio city, which is in Southern California.

Why hasn’t BL opened an office there for the Studio team?!

That would seem to be a good fit.

  
  […]
I wonder if they are using the Oregon address to avoid paying California's
sales tax.

Always the question when that name (or a few others) appears….

You mean Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon?

Alaska used to be on this list too, since Alaska doesn’t assess statewide sales
taxes. However, many of its municipalities do impose a sales tax since 2022.

I'm pretty sure anyone from outside the US knows where California, New York,
Florida, and Texas are. And thats about all...

And the most important cities: Springfield, Punxsutawney...

But I must admit I always mix up Florida and Italy
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Actually, we do know a lot about the U.S. of A. up here. Took a quiz on State
Capitals this week and got 30 of 50 correct. I mean, I'm not sure that most
Americans could name the capital of Vermont.
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In Technical Issues, calebfishn writes:
  Actually, we do know a lot about the U.S. of A. up here. Took a quiz on State
Capitals this week and got 30 of 50 correct. I mean, I'm not sure that most
Americans could name the capital of Vermont.


That's easy. Not many people live in Vermont. So, they don't have a
capitol.
I think the legislators just meet under a big tree.

____
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In Technical Issues, Shiny_Stuff writes:
  In Technical Issues, calebfishn writes:
  Actually, we do know a lot about the U.S. of A. up here. Took a quiz on State
Capitals this week and got 30 of 50 correct. I mean, I'm not sure that most
Americans could name the capital of Vermont.


That's easy. Not many people live in Vermont. So, they don't have a
capitol.
I think the legislators just meet under a big tree.

____

Well Montpelier is the least populous state capitol in the US, so you might just
be right.
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In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  […]
  That's easy. Not many people live in Vermont. So, they don't have a
capitol.
I think the legislators just meet under a big tree.

____

Well Montpelier is the least populous state capitol in the US, so you might just
be right.

First geography, then spelling (capitol / capital¹), and now both together!
It’s Montpellier, two Ls!  And it can’t be the capital of the US state of Vermont
because it’s in France!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montpellier


———
¹ Yep, those are different words and the difference is capital: a ‘capital’ is
a town (from Latin caput, head) while a ‘capitol’ is a building (from
the temple of Jupiter on the capitolin hill in Rome).
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In Technical Issues, SylvainLS writes:
  First geography, then spelling (capitol / capital¹), and now both together!
It’s Montpellier, two Ls!  And it can’t be the capital of the US state of Vermont
because it’s in France!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montpellier


Wow, I didn't know France is part of Vermont!

  ———
¹ Yep, those are different words and the difference is capital: a ‘capital’ is
a town (from Latin caput, head) while a ‘capitol’ is a building (from
the temple of Jupiter on the capitolin hill in Rome).

I think the first usage is correct: Vermont doesn't have a capitol building,
so the government meets under a tree.
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In Technical Issues, wildchicken13 writes:
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I think the first usage is correct: Vermont doesn't have a capitol building,
so the government meets under a tree.

Yep, but I had to assume that was not intentional in order to make my joke
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In Technical Issues, calebfishn writes:
  I mean, I'm not sure that most Americans could name the capital of Vermont.

Montreal
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  I'm pretty sure anyone from outside the US knows where California, New York,
Florida, and Texas are. And thats about all...

I'm from Texas
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In Technical Issues, rtzx9r writes:
  In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  In Technical Issues, SylvainLS writes:
  In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  […]
91604, Studio city, which is in Southern California.

Why hasn’t BL opened an office there for the Studio team?!

That would seem to be a good fit.

  
  […]
I wonder if they are using the Oregon address to avoid paying California's
sales tax.

Always the question when that name (or a few others) appears….

You mean Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon?

Alaska used to be on this list too, since Alaska doesn’t assess statewide sales
taxes. However, many of its municipalities do impose a sales tax since 2022.

I'm pretty sure anyone from outside the US knows where California, New York,
Florida, and Texas are. And thats about all...

As someone from Los Angeles, this is accurate.
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  I'm pretty sure anyone from outside the US knows where California, New York,
Florida, and Texas are. And thats about all...

People from outside the US often travel abroad so they tend to know about other
countries' geography. I've only been on the eastern side of the US, but
know all the states from Florida to Maine, and where Texas, California and Washington
state are.
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  People from outside the US often travel abroad so they tend to know about other
countries' geography. I've only been on the eastern side of the US, but
know all the states from Florida to Maine, and where Texas, California and Washington
state are.

I know where you are.
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In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  
I wonder if they are using the Oregon address to avoid paying California's
sales tax.

That would be my guess.

* * *

I once received an order from a buyer with a Montana BL address. But, as it
turns out it was really to a big seller in Minnesota.

When they hassled me about something, I made sure to mention that I noticed this
and that shut them up about whatever they were complaining about. They countered
that they are a legitimate tax exempt business in real life, so they are justified
in making it happen on BL.

I had intended to report it to BL but never did. Now, I'm too lazy to find
that user ID again (tho a 40 second search of emails will prolly do it since
Montana addresses are rare on BL).

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In Technical Issues, Shiny_Stuff writes:
  In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  
I wonder if they are using the Oregon address to avoid paying California's
sales tax.

That would be my guess.

* * *

I once received an order from a buyer with a Montana BL address. But, as it
turns out it was really to a big seller in Minnesota.

When they hassled me about something, I made sure to mention that I noticed this
and that shut them up about whatever they were complaining about. They countered
that they are a legitimate tax exempt business in real life, so they are justified
in making it happen on BL.

I had intended to report it to BL but never did. Now, I'm too lazy to find
that user ID again (tho a 40 second search of emails will prolly do it since
Montana addresses are rare on BL).


Okay, 30 seconds on BL is all it took:

https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=BrickBrokers&fUsername=shiny_stuff

As I say, their shop is in Minnesota, but their buyer address is Montana to avoid
paying sales tax on purchases. There is only one character difference in the
two addresses (MT versus MN)

My transaction with them was 18 months ago, so the situation may have changed
since.

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In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
  And Oregon is 672 miles from California, so the State Line would be pretty wide


They are literally right next to each other, so Nita's hypothesis is correct
until you find that the store is located in 91604, Studio city, which is in Southern
California.

They offer local pickup in that zip code per their listings.

I wonder if they are using the Oregon address to avoid paying California's
sales tax.

I answered you in an above thread. I have barely made 2 small orders in last
couple of months so that's not really the point... We are focused mostly
on selling and yes we sell mostly out of California currently. I hadn't
even looked at my personal account in all this time to notice the error.

I can't afford to move the inventory yet but its in the works (hopefully
next year). And I need to convince my brother to also move lol.
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In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  https://www.bricklink.com/storeResults.asp?stateID=24561&sortBy=2

I don't want to name the store, but if you click on the first 10 or so, you
will find it.

Their ID card shows Oregon, but the store shows California. How is this possible?

As others have mentioned, there are two places to input your address:

1. Account Information: https://www.bricklink.com/pref_general.asp

This is your "buyer" address, the one that shows up on your ID card.

2. For sellers, there is also the Store Address, shown at the bottom of the Store
Management Page: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/mystore/management.page

This is the address that buyers see at the top when they enter your store and
at the bottom of the order details page when they place an order with you.

There are entirely legally valid reasons why these addresses may be different
(separate personal/business address, etc.), but the choice of a sales tax-free
state often indicates sales tax avoidance or the use of a freight forwarder.
Delaware and Oregon are common culprits.

Or, as others have suggested, perhaps the seller is located along the Oregon/California
border, though if so they'd be one of the few.
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thank you for this, all addresses have been fixed to be accurate (I had neglected
the personal account one since I don't buy usually). I wish bricklink would
separate stores from individual accounts.

In Technical Issues, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  https://www.bricklink.com/storeResults.asp?stateID=24561&sortBy=2

I don't want to name the store, but if you click on the first 10 or so, you
will find it.

Their ID card shows Oregon, but the store shows California. How is this possible?

As others have mentioned, there are two places to input your address:

1. Account Information: https://www.bricklink.com/pref_general.asp

This is your "buyer" address, the one that shows up on your ID card.

2. For sellers, there is also the Store Address, shown at the bottom of the Store
Management Page: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/mystore/management.page

This is the address that buyers see at the top when they enter your store and
at the bottom of the order details page when they place an order with you.

There are entirely legally valid reasons why these addresses may be different
(separate personal/business address, etc.), but the choice of a sales tax-free
state often indicates sales tax avoidance or the use of a freight forwarder.
Delaware and Oregon are common culprits.

Or, as others have suggested, perhaps the seller is located along the Oregon/California
border, though if so they'd be one of the few.
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In Technical Issues, stranqe writes:
  thank you for this, all addresses have been fixed to be accurate (I had neglected
the personal account one since I don't buy usually). I wish bricklink would
separate stores from individual accounts.

No worries. Welcome to Portland, sorry to see that your buying privileges have
been revoked because of this.
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In Technical Issues, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Technical Issues, stranqe writes:
  thank you for this, all addresses have been fixed to be accurate (I had neglected
the personal account one since I don't buy usually). I wish bricklink would
separate stores from individual accounts.

No worries. Welcome to Portland, sorry to see that your buying privileges have
been revoked because of this.

I'm sure it'll get taken care of by the help desk. I'm not much
of a buyer on here anyhow so not a big deal. If it affected the store's
selling privileges, now that would be a whole nother story lol.
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Location:  USA, California
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Store: Bricks, Blocks & Beyond
In Technical Issues, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Technical Issues, stranqe writes:
  thank you for this, all addresses have been fixed to be accurate (I had neglected
the personal account one since I don't buy usually). I wish bricklink would
separate stores from individual accounts.

No worries. Welcome to Portland, sorry to see that your buying privileges have
been revoked because of this.

How long does the help desk usually take to respond? its been 24 hours and still
no buyer privileges =(
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Location:  USA, Illinois
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Store: Wild Chicken
In Technical Issues, stranqe writes:
  How long does the help desk usually take to respond? its been 24 hours and still
no buyer privileges =(

Usually they're pretty quick (i.e., less than 24 hours)

Be patient; they'll get back to you eventually
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Location:  USA, Oregon
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In Technical Issues, stranqe writes:
  In Technical Issues, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Technical Issues, stranqe writes:
  thank you for this, all addresses have been fixed to be accurate (I had neglected
the personal account one since I don't buy usually). I wish bricklink would
separate stores from individual accounts.

No worries. Welcome to Portland, sorry to see that your buying privileges have
been revoked because of this.

How long does the help desk usually take to respond? its been 24 hours and still
no buyer privileges =(

Register on the help desk site https://helpdesk.bricklink.com/Main/ with the
same email you use to log in and you can track your tickets. They have been pretty
quick recently.
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Location:  USA, California
Member Since Contact Type Status
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Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Bricks, Blocks & Beyond
In Technical Issues, macebobo writes:
  In Technical Issues, stranqe writes:
  In Technical Issues, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Technical Issues, stranqe writes:
  thank you for this, all addresses have been fixed to be accurate (I had neglected
the personal account one since I don't buy usually). I wish bricklink would
separate stores from individual accounts.

No worries. Welcome to Portland, sorry to see that your buying privileges have
been revoked because of this.

How long does the help desk usually take to respond? its been 24 hours and still
no buyer privileges =(

Register on the help desk site https://helpdesk.bricklink.com/Main/ with the
same email you use to log in and you can track your tickets. They have been pretty
quick recently.

Just an update for everyone (or any future readers who search and find this thread).
I had to change my personal address back to match my store address to fix everything.
So for any other store owners in a similar situation, don't cause yourself
headaches and make sure you personal and store addresses match.

I still wish my store can be it's own entity without having to be completely
reliant on a personal account. (even when the store makes a sale, the name and
address provided to the buyer in the email was my personal one which was not
ideal)

Anyhow, I digress. onward and upward. =)

-Jerry