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| | | Author: | waltzking  | | Posted: | Sep 17, 2022 23:17 | | Subject: | Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 225 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Have been listing items as used but with comments of "Like New," (when nearly
physically impossible to tell they ever were used) as well as "Excellent," "Very
Good," "Average," "Scuffed," etc. for years now, and much to the expressed thankfulness
of buyers searching for quality used parts.
However today lots were deleted from my store, stating "like new" or "as new"
is not allowed to define used parts. Reference was given to the listing policy
pages, which I reviewed in full...but there is nothing in there that says it
is not allowed to use the terms like "like new" to describe condition. It honestly
makes no sense to enforce a policy that isn't yet added to the terms, or
announced (even emailed to sellers) so they have time to take action if the rules
have changed.
Funny part in this case is another seller with the exact same item has the same
exact description...but their lot is still posted. Really makes no sense and
clarification on this really needs to be made both to all sellers and ESPECIALLY
spelled out in the listing policy pages if this is not allowed and/or lots are
going to be deleted over it.
Are we as sellers really not able to describe condition of parts based on a rating
of the level of use for used bricks? "Like new" has for ages been the standard
term to use on all online marketplaces to sell items that are otherwise indistinguishable
from being used, but yet are not 100% new.
Quite irksome to get blindsided and need to redo my listings over non-existent
terms or clarifications claiming to be the reason for the removal.
Jonathan
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| | | | | Author: | edk | | Posted: | Sep 17, 2022 23:22 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, waltzking writes:
| | Have been listing items as used but with comments of "Like New," (when nearly
physically impossible to tell they ever were used) as well as "Excellent," "Very
Good," "Average," "Scuffed," etc. for years now, and much to the expressed thankfulness
of buyers searching for quality used parts.
However today lots were deleted from my store, stating "like new" or "as new"
is not allowed to define used parts. Reference was given to the listing policy
pages, which I reviewed in full...but there is nothing in there that says it
is not allowed to use the terms like "like new" to describe condition. It honestly
makes no sense to enforce a policy that isn't yet added to the terms, or
announced (even emailed to sellers) so they have time to take action if the rules
have changed.
Funny part in this case is another seller with the exact same item has the same
exact description...but their lot is still posted. Really makes no sense and
clarification on this really needs to be made both to all sellers and ESPECIALLY
spelled out in the listing policy pages if this is not allowed and/or lots are
going to be deleted over it.
Are we as sellers really not able to describe condition of parts based on a rating
of the level of use for used bricks? "Like new" has for ages been the standard
term to use on all online marketplaces to sell items that are otherwise indistinguishable
from being used, but yet are not 100% new.
Quite irksome to get blindsided and need to redo my listings over non-existent
terms or clarifications claiming to be the reason for the removal.
Jonathan
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Me too. I searched for the wording prohibiting the phrase "like new" and could
not find it. My item was listed as used and I used the best term to describe
the true condition.
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| | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Sep 17, 2022 23:25 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | | | | | Author: | waltzking | | Posted: | Sep 17, 2022 23:28 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, utlf writes:
Ah at the top...but 'please' is not a dissallowance. If it is meant
as terms or a rule 'PLEASE' should NEVER be used.
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| | | | | | | Author: | tEoS | | Posted: | Sep 17, 2022 23:54 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Those are not the site's terms, it is the help center. These are the ToS:
https://www.bricklink.com/v3/terms_of_service.page
I thought the help center was simply intended as a guide and to prevent an influx
of easily answered questions.
Also, BL doesn't seem to have effective staffing for responding to messages,
but they can take the time to needlessly delete listings. What's up with
their priorities?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Sep 17, 2022 23:58 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | Also, BL doesn't seem to have effective staffing for responding to messages,
but they can take the time to needlessly delete listings. What's up with
their priorities?
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Probably automated in many cases (once reported)
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 00:02 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 00:09 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, utlf writes:
| | In Selling, tEoS writes:
| | Those are not the site's terms, it is the help center.
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Strange then, if they're just guidelines then why do they enforce it so much?
There's nothing wrong with using "like new"
| | Also, BL doesn't seem to have effective staffing for responding to messages, but they can take the time to needlessly delete listings. What's up with their priorities?
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I've often wondered this, but I believe that the volunteer catalog moderators
are the ones that handle the listing reports (I may be wrong)
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You are wrong. 
| | If it IS handled by BL Admins, then that also begs the question as to why some
things are prioritized over others; clearly there's issues with communication,
which can be attributed to understaffing or simply not caring - you would think
with Lego now purchasing & owning Bricklink, they would be able to expand and
have a dedicated team that communicates with sellers (you know, the one thing
that keeps the site alive) instead of sellers having to spam the forum or help
tickets to gamble on receiving a response or not
I don't like piling onto BL admins as I'm sure there's a lot they
do behind the scenes, but clearly there's some sort of workload issue that
needs to be tackled so tensions aren't so high & things can be resolved quicker
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 00:07 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, tEoS writes:
| | Those are not the site's terms, it is the help center. These are the ToS:
https://www.bricklink.com/v3/terms_of_service.page
I thought the help center was simply intended as a guide and to prevent an influx
of easily answered questions.
Also, BL doesn't seem to have effective staffing for responding to messages,
but they can take the time to needlessly delete listings. What's up with
their priorities?
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The "Terms of Service" at
https://www.bricklink.com/v3/terms_of_service.page
under item "6. Seller Terms" links to the "Seller Terms of Service" at
https://www.bricklink.com/v3/terms_of_service_seller.page
The "Seller Terms of Service" then links to the "Item For Sale Condition" under
item "1.2.10".
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | waltzking | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 00:15 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, randyf writes:
Regardless, "please" is not a legal term requiring anything. It by effect makes
the statement unenforceable as it is merely a suggestion at that point.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 00:33 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, waltzking writes:
| | In Selling, randyf writes:
Regardless, "please" is not a legal term requiring anything. It by effect makes
the statement unenforceable as it is merely a suggestion at that point.
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I totally agree. It should simply state
"Do not use phrases such as "Like New" or "As New" in the description of any
item, regardless of whether it is being listed as NEW or USED."
if that is how it is going to be enforced.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 08:53 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, waltzking writes:
| | Regardless, "please" is not a legal term requiring anything. It by effect makes
the statement unenforceable as it is merely a suggestion at that point.
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I think it's more than a suggestion - saying "please" is just politeness.
If a govt official says "Your papers, please", is that an unenforceable suggestion?
Or, perhaps more apt, if a store has a sign saying "no smoking please", do you
feel comfortable lighting up in it? 
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 09:01 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, waltzking writes:
| | Regardless, "please" is not a legal term requiring anything. It by effect makes
the statement unenforceable as it is merely a suggestion at that point.
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I think it's more than a suggestion - saying "please" is just politeness.
If a govt official says "Your papers, please", is that an unenforceable suggestion?
Or, perhaps more apt, if a store has a sign saying "no smoking please", do you
feel comfortable lighting up in it?
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Oh please.
(Just for the joke  )
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 12:38 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| The "please" has been removed:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1026
In General
Do not use phrases such as "Like New" or "As New" in the description of any item,
regardless of whether it is being listed as NEW or USED.
In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, waltzking writes:
| | Regardless, "please" is not a legal term requiring anything. It by effect makes
the statement unenforceable as it is merely a suggestion at that point.
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I think it's more than a suggestion - saying "please" is just politeness.
If a govt official says "Your papers, please", is that an unenforceable suggestion?
Or, perhaps more apt, if a store has a sign saying "no smoking please", do you
feel comfortable lighting up in it?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 12:48 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, zorbanj writes:
Bad link, change link:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
OK, now we know what the problem was.
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| | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 00:14 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| I'd guess:
* If everyone describe the condition of each of their Used lot, the BL database
will explode.
* It's 100% subjective: "like New" (as damaged as I think new are?), or "Used
but Mint" (WTF?), or "You'll be proud to have those at home" (!?), in short:
comments on the quality may simply mean nothing. Also think at people who aren't
fluent in English.
* There could be a problem regarding prices and even the definition of the condition
itself: if a "like New" part is half the price of a New part, then why would
anyone buy a New one, if it's the same as an Used?
But but I'm not BL or TLG, I don't know.
If your Used quality is excellent, people will come back - and running!!!
And I'm sure you can advertise in your Terms that Used are "like New", or
"even better"
But Used is used, and New is new.
Same may happen to sellers selling "New / Just parted out from a Set" or "New
/ Perfect condition!", "New / Mint!!!!".
I don't know why BL does this - but I think they're simplifying the transactions.
You sell Used: you'd better sell good quality.
If there's a major default you have to mention it (see Help about
condition).
Otherwise, it's simply Used.
But again, I don't know about this, just an idea to help you.
I'm off, cheers!
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| | | | | | | Author: | waltzking | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 00:40 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
| | I'd guess:
* If everyone describe the condition of each of their Used lot, the BL database
will explode.
* It's 100% subjective: "like New" (as damaged as I think new are?), or "Used
but Mint" (WTF?), or "You'll be proud to have those at home" (!?), in short:
comments on the quality may simply mean nothing. Also think at people who aren't
fluent in English.
* There could be a problem regarding prices and even the definition of the condition
itself: if a "like New" part is half the price of a New part, then why would
anyone buy a New one, if it's the same as an Used?
But but I'm not BL or TLG, I don't know.
If your Used quality is excellent, people will come back - and running!!!
And I'm sure you can advertise in your Terms that Used are "like New", or
"even better"
But Used is used, and New is new.
Same may happen to sellers selling "New / Just parted out from a Set" or "New
/ Perfect condition!", "New / Mint!!!!".
I don't know why BL does this - but I think they're simplifying the transactions.
You sell Used: you'd better sell good quality.
If there's a major default you have to mention it (see Help about
condition).
Otherwise, it's simply Used.
But again, I don't know about this, just an idea to help you.
I'm off, cheers!
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Um, I sort of just explained all that as what we do as a reputable shop with
happy customers.
But 'NEW' is a one category definition, the meaning being anything "not
used." Used is a definition of all else...anything inherently 'not new.'
By this fact 'USED' actually begs a clarification as to how much 'use'
it has. Describing how much 'non-use' something has actually can get
really silly beyond sharing what verifies it as new. Sealed, unopened, etc.
So no, BL cannot be asking us to not add comments...they actual say we should...and
I do. If their database cannot withstand such descriptions added it's a
sorry excuse for a reason to limit the ability to list items accurately and with
detial (if even their intent to have no descriptions, which I doubt.)
'Like new' is the tried and true simplified comment that means close
to but not quite actually new condition. How can you get more descriptive and
concise than those two words?
The issue is how do you define something as 'close to' or 'like'
anything without saying what it is that is is similar to? It is why "like new"
is such a good description of exceptionally great, with nearly no sign of use,
condition parts. 'Like' is far more descriptive than just saying 'excellent
condition.' 'Excellent' in what way? 'Like' implies nearly
but not identical, so 'like new' being "like but not quite identical
to new condition." 'Excellent' just means a refined version of good.
But 'good' is so heavily opinion based that on BrickLink it actually
means inferior in most cases. New is new, and being like it is about as non-opinionated
of a described as you can get IMO.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 02:33 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | But 'NEW' is a one category definition, the meaning being anything "not
used." Used is a definition of all else...anything inherently 'not new.'
By this fact 'USED' actually begs a clarification as to how much 'use'
it has. Describing how much 'non-use' something has actually can get
really silly beyond sharing what verifies it as new. Sealed, unopened, etc.
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New means not assembled. Used means it has been assembled. They are opposites
with no overlap. Appearance does not come into this definition. Used does not
mean an item has playwear. New does not mean it is perfect. Saying something
that has been assembled is like something that has not been assembled is clearly
wrong, because the identifying characteristic definition of being new, that it
has not been assembled, is not true.
This really is an issue with having a single all-in-one used category, covering
everything from briefly assembled but otherwise excellent condition through to
heavily used but undamaged condition.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 10:53 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | | | But 'NEW' is a one category definition, the meaning being anything "not
used." Used is a definition of all else...anything inherently 'not new.'
By this fact 'USED' actually begs a clarification as to how much 'use'
it has. Describing how much 'non-use' something has actually can get
really silly beyond sharing what verifies it as new. Sealed, unopened, etc.
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New means not assembled. Used means it has been assembled. They are opposites
with no overlap. Appearance does not come into this definition. Used does not
mean an item has playwear. New does not mean it is perfect. Saying something
that has been assembled is like something that has not been assembled is clearly
wrong, because the identifying characteristic definition of being new, that it
has not been assembled, is not true.
This really is an issue with having a single all-in-one used category, covering
everything from briefly assembled but otherwise excellent condition through to
heavily used but undamaged condition.
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+1 to both.
And one of the reasons I gave up on Used; far too complicated to describe (when
exactly your eyes and brain will tell you this part isn't "like New"?) -
and for too low value (in general).
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| | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 01:19 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 06:24 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| I appreciate the warning. I have used the phrase too and I've cleaned mine
up before getting reported.
In Selling, waltzking writes:
| | Have been listing items as used but with comments of "Like New," (when nearly
physically impossible to tell they ever were used) as well as "Excellent," "Very
Good," "Average," "Scuffed," etc. for years now, and much to the expressed thankfulness
of buyers searching for quality used parts.
However today lots were deleted from my store, stating "like new" or "as new"
is not allowed to define used parts. Reference was given to the listing policy
pages, which I reviewed in full...but there is nothing in there that says it
is not allowed to use the terms like "like new" to describe condition. It honestly
makes no sense to enforce a policy that isn't yet added to the terms, or
announced (even emailed to sellers) so they have time to take action if the rules
have changed.
Funny part in this case is another seller with the exact same item has the same
exact description...but their lot is still posted. Really makes no sense and
clarification on this really needs to be made both to all sellers and ESPECIALLY
spelled out in the listing policy pages if this is not allowed and/or lots are
going to be deleted over it.
Are we as sellers really not able to describe condition of parts based on a rating
of the level of use for used bricks? "Like new" has for ages been the standard
term to use on all online marketplaces to sell items that are otherwise indistinguishable
from being used, but yet are not 100% new.
Quite irksome to get blindsided and need to redo my listings over non-existent
terms or clarifications claiming to be the reason for the removal.
Jonathan
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| | | | | Author: | crazylegoman | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 09:14 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| I agree that the term "Like New" should be allowed. I know that sellers can
describe used parts in not-so-good condition by adding descriptions like "bite
marks", "playwear" or "minor scuffing." Perhaps you could circumvent the
ban on the "Like New" description on your parts by having it in your store terms.
You could add something in your store's terms like, "All used parts, unless
described otherwise, are in like-new condition." Then for parts that are not
like-new, you can add a description for that lot that adequately describes them.
It's silly, but as far as I know you would be within the rules to do so.
David
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 09:41 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, crazylegoman writes:
| | I agree that the term "Like New" should be allowed. I know that sellers can
describe used parts in not-so-good condition by adding descriptions like "bite
marks", "playwear" or "minor scuffing." Perhaps you could circumvent the
ban on the "Like New" description on your parts by having it in your store terms.
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Why not just use excellent or very good to describe the visual condition.
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| In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | In Selling, crazylegoman writes:
| | I agree that the term "Like New" should be allowed. I know that sellers can
describe used parts in not-so-good condition by adding descriptions like "bite
marks", "playwear" or "minor scuffing." Perhaps you could circumvent the
ban on the "Like New" description on your parts by having it in your store terms.
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Why not just use excellent or very good to describe the visual condition.
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I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that if BL bans the term "Like
New," then they will also ban the terms "Excellent" and/or "Very Good."
David
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 11:00 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, crazylegoman writes:
| | In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | In Selling, crazylegoman writes:
| | I agree that the term "Like New" should be allowed. I know that sellers can
describe used parts in not-so-good condition by adding descriptions like "bite
marks", "playwear" or "minor scuffing." Perhaps you could circumvent the
ban on the "Like New" description on your parts by having it in your store terms.
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Why not just use excellent or very good to describe the visual condition.
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I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that if BL bans the term "Like
New," then they will also ban the terms "Excellent" and/or "Very Good."
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Just like Yorbrick, I think the problem is the specific "Like New", and "Excellent
condition" would be fine.
But maybe they're chasing this because you're supposed to sell excellent
condition by default, and only describe the ones that aren't.
I don't know, I'm trying to guess...
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 11:03 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, crazylegoman writes:
| | In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | In Selling, crazylegoman writes:
| | I agree that the term "Like New" should be allowed. I know that sellers can
describe used parts in not-so-good condition by adding descriptions like "bite
marks", "playwear" or "minor scuffing." Perhaps you could circumvent the
ban on the "Like New" description on your parts by having it in your store terms.
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Why not just use excellent or very good to describe the visual condition.
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I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that if BL bans the term "Like
New," then they will also ban the terms "Excellent" and/or "Very Good."
David
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No, they don't. The banning of 'New' statements was to lessen confusion
within our New/Used marketplace. Our site is unique in having to define these
for non-sealed or tagged products being resold as New.
Jen
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| | | | | Author: | rab1234 | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 10:51 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Listings are removed when they’re reported and reviewed. The other seller maybe
wasn’t reported.
In Selling, waltzking writes:
| | Have been listing items as used but with comments of "Like New," (when nearly
physically impossible to tell they ever were used) as well as "Excellent," "Very
Good," "Average," "Scuffed," etc. for years now, and much to the expressed thankfulness
of buyers searching for quality used parts.
However today lots were deleted from my store, stating "like new" or "as new"
is not allowed to define used parts. Reference was given to the listing policy
pages, which I reviewed in full...but there is nothing in there that says it
is not allowed to use the terms like "like new" to describe condition. It honestly
makes no sense to enforce a policy that isn't yet added to the terms, or
announced (even emailed to sellers) so they have time to take action if the rules
have changed.
Funny part in this case is another seller with the exact same item has the same
exact description...but their lot is still posted. Really makes no sense and
clarification on this really needs to be made both to all sellers and ESPECIALLY
spelled out in the listing policy pages if this is not allowed and/or lots are
going to be deleted over it.
Are we as sellers really not able to describe condition of parts based on a rating
of the level of use for used bricks? "Like new" has for ages been the standard
term to use on all online marketplaces to sell items that are otherwise indistinguishable
from being used, but yet are not 100% new.
Quite irksome to get blindsided and need to redo my listings over non-existent
terms or clarifications claiming to be the reason for the removal.
Jonathan
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| | | | | Author: | calebfishn | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2022 21:09 | | Subject: | Re: Used "Like New" item removed...why?!?! | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| The difficulty of "Like New" as a part description on Bricklink is that it has
no meaning, and can be confusing to buyers.
I am sure that most sellers who list items as "like new" simply mean that it
is in good condition, without wear and tear, just like a piece new out of the
box.
However, the Bricklink condition categories don't mean that. They are descriptions
of history, rather than "shininess". The condition category "Used" does not
mean that it is rough, or scratched, or worn in any way, it means that it has
been used, i.e. played with, assembled, etc. "New" means the opposite.
What this means is that a buyer could believe that "like new" means it has never
been used or played with. That is obviously not the case for a piece listed as
used, so it is confusing, or meaningless, and in some contexts, possibly misleading.
I believe that sellers should avoid the use of "like new", and instead use more
descriptive phrases to indicate the physical appearance of the parts they are
listing. Maybe something like this one I recently spotted: "Torso is split badly,
legs have bite marks, and deep scratches across the face. Other than that. this
minifigure is in perfect condition." Ok, maybe not that one.
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